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Gahagan
Verge Aeronautics Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:53:00 -
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Using the following fit:
[Catalyst, Gank Catalyst] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Ship Scanner I Warp Scrambler I
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S Light Ion Blaster II, Void S Light Ion Blaster II, Void S Light Ion Blaster II, Void S Light Ion Blaster II, Void S Light Ion Blaster II, Void S Light Ion Blaster II, Void S Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I [empty rig slot]
Hobgoblin II x1
I have attempted to gank twice now with this setup, and both times I have been CONCORDed right when the target Hulk enters structure. I now understand that the intended rigging fit for this Catalyst is a Collision Accelerator and a Burst Aerator, and will try again with that rig configuration next time I go shopping, hopefully with success.
In the meantime, I'm looking for confirmation that a Catalyst can indeed bring down a Hulk after the ROF buff, as well as other general tips for keeping Hulk ganking cheap. I got this fit from Battleclinic, and while it's highly rated, nobody has a Hulk KM to go with it.
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Gahagan
Verge Aeronautics Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2011.12.17 21:07:00 -
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I should mention, since it's likely the first thing people will bring up, that I have optimal drone skills except for Gallente Drone Spec 4 and optimized turret skills except Small Blaster Spec 4. I think those are the only two sets of skills that would affect DPS under these circumstances. |
Elyham
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2011.12.17 21:10:00 -
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solo catalyst?? no.
bring a buddy or two or move up to a brutix if you are blaster specced. |
Lithalnas
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.17 22:36:00 -
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two catalyst can do it. I think a thorax might be better in terms of raw DPS to kill a hulk at minimal cost. How to build a PC for EVE thread (by Akita T) http://eve-search.com/thread/1559734-0/page/1
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Vladimir Tinakin
Goonswarm Protective Services
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Posted - 2011.12.18 02:17:00 -
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It can be done!
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11923090
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Thomas Abernathy
Beekeepers Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.12.18 04:14:00 -
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I am somewhat concerned about some Bees in my system. They seem to have lost focus on their targets?
With Hulks and Macs in the Ice Belt, the bees somehow lost their sense of direction and instead of taking out these poor miners, they attacked my navy Geddon instead! Being a Beekeeper, I did the only selfless thing, and put them out of their misery, but I am concerned, have they caught CCD? They were very quiet bees as well, none of the usual buzzing in local, no response to my gentle guidance either, very disappointing....
"Fighting CCD since 2139" |
Vo Go
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.18 04:24:00 -
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The ship you described, with the skills you described can do an untanked hulk in a .5 system solo.
It may be a matter of luck but Ive done it with worse drone skills and only one burst aerator. |
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.18 06:20:00 -
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I've done 1 successful test in a 0.5 system, with concord pre loaded elsewhere :) :
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14705259
and I had time to stare at my catalyst between hulk popping and concord arriving.
and one failure in a 0.7 but I think that was due to me not pre spawning concord. Hulk survived with half structure but concord arrived awfully fast. Haven't had time to test further.
Same fit as yours except for eccm in mids due to outlaw status and faction polis, and the other difference is
2x mag stabs 1x Beta Reactor Control: Reaction Control I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
8x neutrons
that combo pretty much saves about a mill for similar (or better?) output.
I'm pretty sure that you don't even need to bother scanning macks for fits any longer. They can't (shouldn't) resist the catalyst |
Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.12.18 08:30:00 -
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Have you tried self-destructing your Catalyst next to the Hulk? |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2011.12.18 11:06:00 -
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Both of the hulks in the 2 kill mails listed deserved to die because of their crap fits.
People.. Tank your hulks correctly so at least to give people guys a challenge when ganking |
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Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.19 19:45:00 -
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Let me let you in on a little secret. If the target Hulk is accompanied by an Orca and the Hulk is missing a single strip miner module, watch out. It could be a trap. |
Amelia Shortcake
The Right Hand of Beadle
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Posted - 2011.12.19 20:34:00 -
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Henry Haphorn wrote:Let me let you in on a little secret. If the target Hulk is accompanied by an Orca and the Hulk is missing a single strip miner module, watch out. It could be a trap.
This. Also, If the target hulk looks like an Apoc, watch out, it could be a trap.
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2011.12.19 21:45:00 -
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Where are you ganking? I'll help* you.
* By help, I mean I'll blatantly ***** the km as concord kills you |
Salmonelladella
MonstersCorp
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Posted - 2011.12.20 13:12:00 -
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Ill join in to! got 2-3 characters and a 100 fitted catalysts ready to go in 4-5 systems filled with hulks.. let me know and we will get some kills together! |
Ana K
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.20 16:21:00 -
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I want in on this as well, sent you an EVE mail.
I was thinking of a Thorax. Can someone put up a fit that can solo-gank a Hulk????? And does it have to always be T2 fitted? Can you get away with T1 fits? |
Ana K
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.20 16:26:00 -
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Ludi Burek wrote:
Same fit as yours except for eccm in mids due to outlaw status and faction polis, and the other difference is
Can you expand a little more on this? My concern is being able to get security status up again after the gankery. Can you fit mods to somewhat evade the officials at gates and such?
Also, where do you dock if you're not allowed in high sec with a low status? Will the NPC stations still allow you to dock?
Thanks |
Borun Tal
One More Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.20 21:32:00 -
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Ana K wrote:Ludi Burek wrote:
Same fit as yours except for eccm in mids due to outlaw status and faction polis, and the other difference is
Can you expand a little more on this? My concern is being able to get security status up again after the gankery. Can you fit mods to somewhat evade the officials at gates and such? Also, where do you dock if you're not allowed in high sec with a low status? Will the NPC stations still allow you to dock? Thanks
Yeah, evade CONCORD. Oh, and have fun with Skyrim. |
Gahagan
Verge Aeronautics Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2011.12.29 02:25:00 -
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Bumping this back up to the top.
I've run into some miners who know what they're doing and have respectable tanks on their Hulks - I was unable to break them in a Brutix.
If anyone is interested in helping gank 6 mining Hulks, get in touch with me in-game via mail or chat.
Their names are
* megamitch * minimitch * MitcHlegrand * mitchlemoyen * mitchleptit * halffa Isagar |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids
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Posted - 2011.12.29 02:35:00 -
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I like the Tornado, with 2 ROF rigs and BC 5 you can get off 2 volleys in 0.5 before concord shows up
that's 2 volleys off 8 1400mm howitzers |
Gahagan
Verge Aeronautics Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2011.12.29 02:36:00 -
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I guess I should post their tank too.
2x Invuln II 2x Shield Recharger II
Lows are all cargo expanders, rigs are all cargohold optimization.
I hadn't thought that Invuln IIs had that much stopping power, but I guess so. |
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Gahagan
Verge Aeronautics Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2011.12.29 02:46:00 -
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Looks solid, I wish I had gone Minmatar at some point. I probably will just so I can get into one of those. |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.29 02:57:00 -
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Gahagan wrote:I guess I should post their tank too. 2x Invuln II 2x Shield Recharger II Lows are all cargo expanders, rigs are all cargohold optimization. I hadn't thought that Invuln IIs had that much stopping power, but I guess so.
LOLWUT!
Fitting tank modules with anti-tank modules? Seriously? That is sooooooo noobish. But you're right to assume that the invulnerability mods do have a lot of stopping power regardless of the penalties they give for fitting more than one. However, it's ill-advised to fit shield rechargers on a Hulk due to the minuscule amount of HP they can only restore compared to the high alpha that a battlecruiser can dish out. Adding a buffer with the resistance goes a longer way by comparison. But it's absolutely stupid for a miner to fit a shield tank with cargohold upgrades as that only weakens the structure HP and therefore exposing the Hulk to greater danger. That miner was lucky to be alive.
Of course, some miner use such fits to mitigate damage from the local belt rats (which do absolutely no damage) but they can quickly forget that rats are the least of their concerns right now. And now that Hulkageddon is around the corner, tears will be had. |
Gahagan
Verge Aeronautics Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2011.12.29 02:59:00 -
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At any rate, it stopped my Brutix, which is pretty nearly optimized. I think the only thing I'm missing is Med. Blaster Spec. 4 instead of 5.
I'd rather not wait until Hulkageddon to pop this guy and his cadre though, hence why I'm looking for assistance. |
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.29 02:59:00 -
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Help with Ganking Hulks
Hoped to see how OP ganks with Hulks. |
Gahagan
Verge Aeronautics Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2011.12.29 03:45:00 -
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Had to go back and pick on the same one, he was already halfway through armor. The kill is up on Battleclinic - I can't remember if you're allowed to post links to it or not. He fits cargo extender IIs.
Still five up for grabs though. |
Ana K
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.29 17:56:00 -
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Don't worry I haven't forgotten about you. Still skilling up. I can fly a Thrasher now decently. I can probably fly a Brutix too but not that well. My not-so-good T1 Brutix, along with your optimized Brutix can probably take down these tanked Hulks, yea? Contact me this weekend, I should be on. |
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