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Galaxxis
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2016.03.16 00:22:57 -
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http://i.imgur.com/PX4VL8r.png
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beakerax
Pator Tech School
230
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Posted - 2016.03.16 02:51:55 -
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think I this one was posted earlier, but here's the whole slide: http://i.imgur.com/clY9Uw5.jpg (100073159)
Metaphase stage of mitosis? fantastic image, whatever it is |
Memphis Baas
1343
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Posted - 2016.03.16 04:05:13 -
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I would guess Plasma Membrane, Focal Adhesions, and Nuclear Speckles. |
PAPULA
Black Aces I N F A M O U S
84
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Posted - 2016.03.16 08:24:14 -
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Ok so, this game is totally wrong.
look at this sample:
http://www.netsky.org/eve/notcor2.png
As you can see it's wrong, but it's not. I chose Nucleoplasm because it is Nucleoplasm, but game says no it is not.
And the "correct answer" was: Nuclear speckles
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Helios Anduath
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
123
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Posted - 2016.03.16 11:02:37 -
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PAPULA wrote:Ok so, this game is totally wrong. look at this sample: http://www.netsky.org/eve/notcor2.png As you can see it's wrong, but it's not. I chose Nucleoplasm because it is Nucleoplasm, but game says no it is not. And the "correct answer" was: Nuclear speckles
The game isn't wrong, it just has a mis-categorised control sample (though I would have gone nucleoplasm plus speckles because there looks to be speckling). HPA people have been quite good at seeing these posts and grabbing the mis-categorised controls. |
Memphis Baas
1346
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Posted - 2016.03.16 15:34:28 -
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I think he's using the term "the game is wrong" because, although they are "quite good at seeing these posts and grabbing the mis-categorised controls" he still gets his accuracy penalized and losing the AK points for his armor or whatever he wants to get out of the game through no fault of his own.
EDIT: it's presented as an in-game activity, we get in-game rewards, people have a right to treat it as a game and, well, meta-game it. |
Katsu Kho
Kho Incorporated The Lone Space Wolves
9953
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Posted - 2016.03.16 20:12:03 -
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I found this one to be a little weird...
Katsu Kho
Ambassador of the Jin-Mei Interstellar Space Bushid+ì council
Find me on YouTube - Latest video: Project Discovery Tutorial
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Galaxxis
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2016.03.16 20:16:55 -
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Katsu Kho wrote:I found this one to be a little weird...
That's a great example of endoplasmic reticulum. See how it looks like a really thick spider web? |
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HPA Illuminator
State War Academy Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2016.03.16 20:18:03 -
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PAPULA wrote:Ok so, this game is totally wrong. look at this sample: http://www.netsky.org/eve/notcor2.png As you can see it's wrong, but it's not. I chose Nucleoplasm because it is Nucleoplasm, but game says no it is not. And the "correct answer" was: Nuclear speckles
It's a known error. Really sorry for it, we're working on fixing the samples that incorrect and hope to have fixed it by this week. *crossing fingers* Will let ppl know when done. |
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HPA Illuminator
State War Academy Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2016.03.16 20:19:15 -
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Galaxxis wrote:Katsu Kho wrote:I found this one to be a little weird... That's a great example of endoplasmic reticulum. See how it looks like a really thick spider web?
What ^ said.
Also, there's a really nice staining of the nuclear membrane, which should also be seen for ER (they are connected). NB that only should be annotated ER. |
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Galaxxis
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2016.03.16 20:21:37 -
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http://i.imgur.com/ztbGdXM.png
Not really sure I agree with cytoplasm on this one. |
HPA Illuminator
State War Academy Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2016.03.16 20:34:07 -
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Will check it! |
PAPULA
Black Aces I N F A M O U S
85
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Posted - 2016.03.16 20:48:18 -
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I got smiling faces
http://www.netsky.org/eve/smiley.png
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Galaxxis
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2016.03.17 04:45:24 -
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beakerax wrote:I think this one was posted earlier, but here's the whole slide: http://i.imgur.com/clY9Uw5.jpg (100073159) Metaphase stage of mitosis? fantastic image, whatever it is
Here's another one! http://i.imgur.com/MG3jQBa.jpg
There's one of those in the upper right corner. I had another one earlier with two of those side-by-side and what looked like centrosomes on each one. What are they?
Another one. They're everywhere! http://i.imgur.com/bOcz5zF.jpg |
HPA Illuminator
State War Academy Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2016.03.17 05:14:42 -
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They are dividing cells (mitosis). What you see is DNA (blue) that has been duplicated and condensed and is now being pulled apart by the red.
The cells with cytokinetic bridges (nicely labeled :)) have just undergone mitosis and are about to/have just been disconnected there.
As for why more are appearing... Either we've in general become much better at looking for such cells over the years. I also think it matters how long the cells are allowed to grow before we stain them. 7 years ago, they only got to grow for 2-4h but now we keep them for 24h most of the time. In general cells duplicate around every 24-36h in vitro so it's far more likely to catch them in mitosis now. And they probably also feel better, getting a longer time to adhere to the slide,which increases chances of mitosis.
As for why you get so many in a row... Random!
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Circumstantial Evidence
265
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Posted - 2016.03.17 17:14:34 -
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Sample 100000440 has been defined as 100% Vesicles, and I regret not making this choice, in addition to Rods and Rings. I picked R&R because I saw a few rod-like structures... am I completely wrong, or could this sample contain both R&R and Vesicles? Must complete ring structures be present, in samples with R&R? I've marked the BG views with arrows.
Area 1 BG -- RGB || Area 2 BG -- RGB
Sample 100000264 has been defined as 100% Cytoplasm, but I wonder what the structures that seem to outline some parts of the cells might be, marked with arrows in my Green-only screenshot. I thought they might represent a plasma membrane.
100000264 Green -- 100000264 RGB |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
275
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Posted - 2016.03.17 23:45:05 -
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I'd like to request this thread be as sticky as a Focal Adhesion |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
275
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Posted - 2016.03.18 00:27:58 -
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I have sample 100016981 that seems to me to be a 'nuclear bodies' one, but when I submit it, the community consensus is 100% vesicles? Odd. No screenshot, sorry.
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Galaxxis
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2016.03.18 02:26:02 -
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Guys, vesicles!
http://i.imgur.com/gZ7mtke.jpg http://i.imgur.com/4y7CBQd.png
I think we need another thread for problem slides, since these aren't really interesting or challenging. |
HPA Illuminator
State War Academy Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2016.03.18 08:23:35 -
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Perfect cell junctions! Don't think it's vesicles (was that a question?) as really random pattern all over cyto/nucleus, so doesn't seem specific.
If you start a new thread, please let me know so we can keep track of what you think is difficult & improve (and give relevant feedback). |
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Galaxxis
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2016.03.18 16:26:22 -
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http://i.imgur.com/Lh4E8Pr.jpg
Suddenly I'm hungry for donuts. |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
275
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Posted - 2016.03.18 18:07:52 -
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People like to pick Cytoplasm for the strangest things.. Cytoplasm everywhere! (especially when one gets podded...) |
Joe Thelere
Space Colony Synergy of Steel
0
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Posted - 2016.03.18 19:13:29 -
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I had an image analysed by a professional today: http://imgur.com/8cy3D7m How much difference in intensity is needed to be correct with Cell-to-Cell-Variations? Or was the professional wrong? |
Galaxxis
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2016.03.18 21:17:13 -
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Joe Thelere wrote:I had an image analysed by a professional today: http://imgur.com/8cy3D7m How much difference in intensity is needed to be correct with Cell-to-Cell-Variations? Or was the professional wrong?
Personally I would agree with you on that one. I've had several where it was either classified wrong or they missed something, so it happens from time to time. Presumably they'll go back and check if something is wrong with a control sample. |
Selphentine
Pastafaris
1
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Posted - 2016.03.18 21:51:22 -
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http://i.imgur.com/1jGFchx.jpg
Im by far noone that claims professionals are wrong, and i understand a lot in PD, but im very, very sure that nucleoli shouldnt be wrong here. |
Galaxxis
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2016.03.19 19:05:15 -
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HPA Illuminator wrote: If you start a new thread, please let me know so we can keep track of what you think is difficult & improve (and give relevant feedback).
Rather than start a new thread and have stuff spread out all over, we can probably just keep everything in this one.
http://i.imgur.com/YHtfNos.jpg
This one is just completely broken. This isn't zoomed in on a section, it's just what the slide looks like, |
Galaxxis
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2016.03.20 00:24:01 -
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HPA Illuminator wrote:Galaxxis wrote:I need to get an image hosting thing, I've had some really interesting ones. One looked like a nucleus popped and all the goo came out! It was glowing bright green and there was a black spot where the nucleus should have been. Would love to see that one! :)
I finally got another one that looks a lot like it. http://i.imgur.com/Qt6kI0b.png http://i.imgur.com/SRMzdv0.png |
Beta Maoye
110
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Posted - 2016.03.20 03:32:12 -
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Many different opinions on this one. http://uploadpie.com/RTkEo |
Yllej Gniht
0rizen Irregulars Sev3rance
2
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Posted - 2016.03.24 14:54:56 -
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Image no. 100000325
Classification Result says: "Nuclear Speckles"; it sure looks like "Nucleoplasm" to me.
What's the deal here? Is this faint variation enough to declassify it as "nucleoplasm" and flag it as "nuclear speckles"?
If so, some explaining text would be appreciated with those very hard to understand "teaching moments".
Thank you! :) |
Memphis Baas
1369
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Posted - 2016.03.24 23:48:43 -
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Why is the nucleus option wrong in this accuracy sample? http://imgur.com/SjyQSxW
Please explain. |
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