Hello everyone,

I just wanted to jump in here and clarify that Dust 514 has its own player-run structures called Outposts, which CCP_CmdrWang is referring to in that very short tweet. Hope this clears up any speculation at this point

I just hope you guys realise your entering a VERY competitive market with the FPS dust.

I honestly hope it goes great for you, I just urge you to get as much help, support and ideas from your eve players as possible.

Im very intrigued to see how you guys are comming along with DUST. Any sneak peaks for your loyal eve minions? Im guessing Fanfest will have such information?

How will we talk to the PS3 people?

Make primitive grunting noises?

It is amazing the amount of comments people are posting who think Dust is going to kill Eve.

First thing the na-sayers need to hear is what has been posted on this forum countless times before.

Adapt or Die.

This game can use another aspect to it. Dust is a natural extension to our space environment and If done right, Dust will add more complexity to war. That is a good thing.

I may not buy a PS3 to play Dust myself, but that doesnt mean I wont enjoy hiring Dust mercs to take out someones PI facilities who are mouthing of in local and getting on my nerves. That right there makes me smile inside.

Now on to the business side of things.

The business people at CCP know that Eve may not last forever. They constantly need to innovate with Eve to keep subscribers paying, but there may come a day when the masses get tired of space MMO's the same way they seem to be getting tired of Kill the Dragon MMO's.

Keeping the changes fresh, bringing in more RL money via Dust, is only going to help the entire Eve community.

So I can only say:

Adapt to the change or Die crying about it.

I don't even have a PS3 but I'll make sure to buy one at a pawn shop just because of how you guys are dumb elitists.

Are you a viral marketer?

In before next mass protest and unsubscription wave from null seccers.

Adapt to the change or Die crying about it.

Anything is better than spending hours firing at stationary structures.

My adaptality is not in question here nor is my mortal excistance thanks. Whether this is really a good move by CCP is..

As for building a playerbase slowly and working from there as you would in an MMO, unfortunatly console based games aren't under financial control the way a subscription game is. CCP have always charged about the same for a subscription and can continue to do so, when a console game tanks it ends up dumped in the bargain bin at the local game shop and retailers don't bulk purchase copies. Income stops dead, theres no half measures. So unfortunatly ( unfortunatly because this is most likely where DUST will fail ) it WILL be in direct competion with big name FPS's, and not just that but any other BIG release for the PS3.

A bold project don't get me wrong but if it really is 18 months away as someone suggest, given the law of the bigger the hype the bigger the flop, I think CCP have bitten of more than they can chew here myself.

No, shooting structures would be vastly preferable to playing competitive multiplayer FPSes on consoles.

I'm sorry, but did I miss the news announcement stating that EVE players had to play DUST? That EVE players can't simply hire DUST players?

What's that? You're wrong?
Ok.

My adaptality is not in question here nor is my mortal excistance thanks. Whether this is really a good move by CCP is..

As for building a playerbase slowly and working from there as you would in an MMO, unfortunatly console based games aren't under financial control the way a subscription game is. CCP have always charged about the same for a subscription and can continue to do so, when a console game tanks it ends up dumped in the bargain bin at the local game shop and retailers don't bulk purchase copies. Income stops dead, theres no half measures. So unfortunatly ( unfortunatly because this is most likely where DUST will fail ) it WILL be in direct competion with big name FPS's, and not just that but any other BIG release for the PS3.

A bold project don't get me wrong but if it really is 18 months away as someone suggest, given the law of the bigger the hype the bigger the flop, I think CCP have bitten of more than they can chew here myself.

Hi. This was me talking about how much I'd slit my wrist rather than play a multiplayer FPS console game.

Greetings Lord Zim,
You need not play DUST.
Your mentally superior friend,
DarkAegix

Hi. This was me talking about how much I'd slit my wrist rather than play a multiplayer FPS console game.

But if we're going to talk about the viability of DUST itself, let's add the fact that at most, DUST is going to be a brief flash of activity, until the next shiny comes along and makes ADD console players go "ooh". And shooting structures'd still be more fun than playing DUST.

considering that millions of people apparently vastly prefer fps game play to sitting static shooting a space house....

.... I'm gonna have to go out on a limb and disagree with your assessment.

So like, check this out: it's going to be downloadable from the PSN (though they are toying with the idea of a retail copy...collector edition only?). They're relying on microtransactions NOT retail sales to make their cash on Dust. From all I've seen, they're on the right track, working closely with Sony and others who know the console FPS market. Dust is going to do just as they predict, you'll see....

And no, it's not 18 months away...summer of 2012, booya!

DarkAegix, missing the point one post at a time.

While there are "millions of people" who vastly prefer FPS games, what makes you think they'll even know what this thing called "eve" is? Or even care, because all their friends are playing MW3 or BF3 so they'll be the uncool kid in the group?

what makes you think they wont?

While there are "millions of people" who vastly prefer FPS games, what makes you think they'll even know what this thing called "eve" is? Or even care, because all their friends are playing MW3 or BF3 so they'll be the uncool kid in the group?

While there are "millions of people" who vastly prefer FPS games, what makes you think they'll even know what this thing called "eve" is? Or even care, because all their friends are playing MW3 or BF3 so they'll be the uncool kid in the group?

Persistent worlds with harsh PVP are awesome.

The development of DUST is causing quite a stir in the console gaming industry, that is always a good thing.
It is causing a stir because it is a revolutionary concept finally seen through to completion, tied to an 8 year old established universe of rich content.

It is being viewed by many as not just the "next new game", but rather the "next step in console games" period. This in an industry where many fans are fading away currently because they are getting tired of the MW3 or BF3 clones that are literally nothing more than the same tired game with a new $60 paint job.

Know of any good ones?

So

1/ CCP are developing in a new genre for them
2/ On a new platform for them
3/ In a new market for them
3/ Using a new business model for that market

Go out on a limb much.....

Don't get me wrong I hope it works out for them, but to me it looks very much like a long odds bet.