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Bugszor
Caldari The Redeeming Age
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Posted - 2007.02.06 10:41:00 -
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Edited by: Bugszor on 06/02/2007 10:39:44 Edited by: Bugszor on 06/02/2007 10:39:31 i thought.. i'd make the forum a bit more active by telling you my wtfpwned story.
so i was just flying through 0.0 as usual and i checked local to see someone i dont know. i directly started scannign and WTF he's in a hulk on his own.
offcourse NO ONE lets this chance go to waste.
i warp to the belt. lock him scram web and let my drones go at him and blasters crush his shield. or so i thought.
at the instant i locked and scrammed him he stopped mining and turned on his shield booster. i couldnt get thru his shield and he locked webbed and scrammed me and i saw 5 drones coming right at me.. "ooh f*ck... t2 ogres :(" was the only thing i said and i saw him slowly taking down my brutix.
now you think. how the hell can a hulk outtank this? easy. i had t2 vespas. and blasters.. he had a gist x-type or w/e he said.. and his shield was unpenetrable cause as we all know.. shieldtanking is WTF fast and unbalanced.
so i got pwned lol thats my f*ckup for the day. this is no whine thread at all. heck. if the person in the hulk even reads this. i salute you for doing soo good :) twas a cool battle but i was ****ed lol!
FLAMEON!
(sorry if its wrong thread) lol edit: spelling mistakes ------------------------------------ Dont make me bug you...
Last kill..
arash kanerium ship: typhoon
ship used: thorax.
tip of the day? age of players doesnt mean sh*t |
Nex Angelus
Caldari Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Tre Kroner
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Posted - 2007.02.06 10:45:00 -
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Hmm...
A hulk has a 50m3 dronebay... Ogre II is 25m3 a pop... 25 x 5 = HAXXPLOIT!!!
???? Profit ?
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Bugszor
Caldari The Redeeming Age
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Posted - 2007.02.06 10:46:00 -
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i swear to god i saw 5 t2 ogres o.0 and NO there was no one else in system lol.
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Last kill..
arash kanerium ship: typhoon
ship used: thorax.
tip of the day? age of players doesnt mean sh*t |
Nex Angelus
Caldari Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Tre Kroner
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Posted - 2007.02.06 10:47:00 -
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Perhaps it was a Bugszor
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Bugszor
Caldari The Redeeming Age
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Posted - 2007.02.06 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Nex Angelus Perhaps it was a Bugszor
lmao who knows. i'm not gonna whine about it and petition. i got pwned it happens. :) ------------------------------------ Dont make me bug you...
Originally by: Nex Angelus Perhaps it was a Bugszor
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Bugszor
Caldari The Redeeming Age
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Posted - 2007.02.06 10:49:00 -
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thanks for the new sig btw lol
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Originally by: Nex Angelus Perhaps it was a Bugszor
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Steven Dynahir
Gallente Avaruuslaivanrakentajat Oyj
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Posted - 2007.02.06 10:52:00 -
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Sounds like use of
Abandon -> Scoop -> Launch exploit, which allows any ship able to fit heavy drone to wield 5 heavy drones.
Would petition it, since it's nowdays considered as exploit.
--- Sell orders Recruitment
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari VSP Corp. R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.02.06 10:54:00 -
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Post the loss mail! Yeah I am a pirate.What are you gonna do about it? |
Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.06 10:54:00 -
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5 drone 25 m3 with a hulk: easy to do: Jump to the belt, launch drones, jump in station, pick drones jump to the belt, launch drones, recover previsiously uncontrolled drones, launch them you controul up to your maximum number of drones, even if they can't fit in your drone bay.
I dubt it is an exploit.
He has risked his first wave to get them all in position.
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Lorn Yeager
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.06 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Nex Angelus Hmm...
A hulk has a 50m3 dronebay... Ogre II is 25m3 a pop... 25 x 5 = HAXXPLOIT!!!
???? Profit ?
Hint:
Have someone lauch 5 ogres from his domi (or what ever). Have him warp away - loosing control of his drones Scoop and relaunch them one-by-one Result: up to 5 Ogre T2 at your disposal.
Olden but golden.
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Plaetean
Blood Sweat and Tears
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Posted - 2007.02.06 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Steven Dynahir Sounds like use of
Abandon -> Scoop -> Launch exploit, which allows any ship able to fit heavy drone to wield 5 heavy drones.
Would petition it, since it's nowdays considered as exploit.
Hmm I didn't think this was an exploit?
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Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.06 11:12:00 -
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Aaaaaah Bugszor, nice to see you on here.
Shame your PvP skills don't match your local smacktalk, eh?
If you saw him slowly taking down your Brutix (keyword SLOWLY) then why didn't you shoot the drones? ------
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Nex Angelus
Caldari Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Tre Kroner
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Posted - 2007.02.06 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lorn Yeager
Hint:
Have someone lauch 5 ogres from his domi (or what ever). Have him warp away - loosing control of his drones Scoop and relaunch them one-by-one Result: up to 5 Ogre T2 at your disposal.
Olden but golden.
Darn... *mumbels* Why didn't I think of that...
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Setana Manoro
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.02.06 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 06/02/2007 11:38:20 It is considered an exploit, because of the same reason a Brutix can't field 5x T2 Ogre's, an Ishkur can't field 5x T2 Ogre's. Won't even mention that in the past the Imicus had a 25m3 drone bay that got nerfed to 15m3 because it could control 10x T2 Heavy drones.
Just petition it and find out for yourself.
PS: One thing escapes me though, you probably scanned him down, you didn't see 3x T2 Ogre's on scanner? Because he can't hold more than 2 in his drone bay. --------------------------------------------------
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Robbie Boozecruise
Caldari Public Defence
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Posted - 2007.02.06 11:46:00 -
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i have petitioned this scoop and launch trick before. and itr is perfectly legal to do. i only petitioned it to find out it was legal before i started camping gates with 5 ishkur and 25 ogre ll
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Jebe Noyon
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Posted - 2007.02.06 11:51:00 -
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Maby it was 1 x Ogre, 1 x Hammer and 3 x Goblin? I know guys who use that kind of drone combo when using 50 cubic meters of dronebay. Maby Ogre got the final blow that's why you think there were 5 of em?
Just my humble thoughts tho.
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Steven Dynahir
Gallente Avaruuslaivanrakentajat Oyj
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Posted - 2007.02.06 12:12:00 -
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Quote: Never seen that ruling, can give a link to it?
Was in Ships and Modules forum back when the drone changes were discussed, year or so ago. Used the trick when clearing complexes with auto-homing-auto-argo drones. --- Sell orders Recruitment
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Robbie Boozecruise
Caldari Public Defence
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Posted - 2007.02.06 12:25:00 -
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Edited by: Robbie Boozecruise on 06/02/2007 12:25:55 ishkur with 5x ogre ll
GM responce on matter
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DarkElf
Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.02.06 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Robbie Boozecruise Edited by: Robbie Boozecruise on 06/02/2007 12:25:55 ishkur with 5x ogre ll
GM responce on matter
mmm i thought they said a while back that they were classifying this as an exploit. good to know. thanks
DE
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.06 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Robbie Boozecruise Edited by: Robbie Boozecruise on 06/02/2007 12:25:55 ishkur with 5x ogre ll
GM responce on matter
mmm i thought they said a while back that they were classifying this as an exploit. good to know. thanks
DE
I seem to believe that was before drones got nerfed to a max of 5, so that change may have overthrown the old ruling. Could be it wasn't ever in effect.
Ye old drone jugglers ye!
Note: Next time, try to run outside webifier / scrambler range. Mining barges (except maybe Skiffs :) aren't well-known for their speed, and they can't really fit MWDs.
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Vrabac
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Posted - 2007.02.06 14:47:00 -
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Why not killing drones, really? You said you had web: "lock him scram web"
Otherwise very good story.
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Babel Matrix
Gallente Zitek Nation
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Posted - 2007.02.06 15:47:00 -
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I find it strange that something that completely contradicts the limitations of a ship, (limits that were put there for balancing purposes,) is considered legal, even if it is manipulation of code instead of manipulation of "reality" in-game.
But hey, if GMs wanna do that, why stop there? Can't wait to find out how to fit capital guns on an assault frigate...
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Captain Blart
Hideous Mutant Freekz
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Posted - 2007.02.06 17:11:00 -
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why did not you use your drones and blasters to shoot his drones ?
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Blart why did not you use your drones and blasters to shoot his drones ?
He's too smart for that
Half Assed Rhymage
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Robbie Boozecruise
Caldari Public Defence
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Smagd
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Robbie Boozecruise Edited by: Robbie Boozecruise on 06/02/2007 12:25:55 ishkur with 5x ogre ll
GM responce on matter
mmm i thought they said a while back that they were classifying this as an exploit. good to know. thanks
DE
I seem to believe that was before drones got nerfed to a max of 5, so that change may have overthrown the old ruling. Could be it wasn't ever in effect.
Ye old drone jugglers ye!
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this was after they got limited to 5 per ship and it was after the introduction of carriers. from what i understand you have the ability to control 5 drones no matter what ship you are in the only limitatio is how many drones you can carry arround in your ship. by using the scoop and launch you can legally carry the 5 drones needed. the only problem with using this technique is yu are limited to one place as you cannot scoop all your drones into the ship at the same time so if you warp you risk loosing all you drones
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:46:00 -
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Ferox sniper: Not frightening. Ferox sniper with 5 sentries: Liiiiittle more frightening. *must try this* ----------------------------
Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Nicocat Ferox sniper: Not frightening. Ferox sniper with 5 sentries: Liiiiittle more frightening. *must try this*
I am enjoying your new post portrait sig
Viva La Revolution!
Half Assed Rhymage
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Voculus
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.06 19:01:00 -
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NOS, baby! NOS! I've never tested my Hulk tank against another player, but I gotta admit I'm extremely surprised you could not break the tank. Was he tanking Guristas? You can get HAC-like resistances on a Hulk, but the small Gistii A-type only reps 57 hp every 2 seconds. Were you, by chance, orbiting at the edge of your web range? Your blasters should have shredded him to pieces. _________________________________________________________
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2007.02.06 19:04:00 -
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Just read the definition of an exploit:
From the FAQ "to use the game mechanics in such a way as they were not intended for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage over other players."
If a ship has a 50m3 drone bay then it's clearly not the game mechanics intent that he uses 5 ogre II's is it?
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Babel Matrix
Gallente Zitek Nation
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Posted - 2007.02.06 19:28:00 -
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So now, the question:
Stupid FAQ?
--or---
Stupid GM?
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