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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:52:00 -
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Monomorium wrote:
Simple fact is that any real local authorities/governments would not put up with these brazen acts of piracy. They would step up policing action in hot spots and be more proactive in defending law abiding citizenry. Things we should be seeing would be active patrolling of locations where there is mining and an increased amount of criminal activity as well as a more robust police response.
The simple real life fact is that if 10000 people decided to invade a community of 500 it would be stomped out of existence before any authorities could intervene.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
203
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:48:00 -
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I've been playing EVE nearly 3 years now (2009-02-23), and I've never had any problems with people in the game. I've never been scammed or ganked.
Sure, I've lost billions of ISK of ships, and will undoubtedly lose billions of ISK more as I continue to have fun and play the game.
Every loss has been my fault. Apparently I am doing it wrong, as it seems I supposed to be blaming everybody else. |
Gorefacer
STRAG3S NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2011.12.17 21:16:00 -
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Disdaine wrote:Thomas Abernathy wrote:Disdaine wrote:Thomas Abernathy wrote: Try learning the game mechanics and using them against the gankers that bother you, it's actually a lot of fun. That's all well and good. Reminds me of the time my freighter/indy alt was travelling Amarr to Jita in a fast frigate. Warp to 0 on a gate and get taken out by a -10 sec nanophoon smartbombing the gate. Lost a billion worth of +5's and wires. Spose I should've sought retribution by trying to ram him with a Charon. That'll learn him. If your that risk adverse, this is probably not the game for you.... Just sayin... I have no problem with the risk. It's the suicide gankers that are risk averse. They know full well that the miners they're blowing up aren't going to come hunting them down. In fact weren't there lots of complaints recently when their insurance payout was taken away making their endeavours just that little bit more risky? Of course I can imagine the outrage at the thought of a suicide ganker being hunted down by a miners combat alt on their way to their next "fight".
I agree, it's absolutely the miners that won't work together or put effort into their endeavors that are to blame for suicide gankers getting to blow up massive amounts of ships "risk" free.
In light of this "revelation" it seems rather pointless for someone to start a thread to complain about a situation they have themselves helped create, doesn't it? |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
124
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Posted - 2011.12.18 07:06:00 -
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Gorefacer wrote:I I agree, it's absolutely the miners that won't work together or put effort into their endeavors that are to blame for suicide gankers getting to blow up massive amounts of ships "risk" free.
In light of this "revelation" it seems rather pointless for someone to start a thread to complain about a situation they have themselves helped create, doesn't it? Interesting. Where in the OP did you find a 'complaint?" I see no "complaint" there. I do see an amusing observation, but if you think not being quiet and just taking something is complaining...well....I know a shrink that could use another yacht. Why do people resort to mischaracterization to make their slam dunks? It's probably because the "opposition" doesn't have a leg to stand on.
To her it doesn't matter much.-á It's chasms have been leapt, and she leans upon the skepticism of her chosen fate. |
Gorefacer
STRAG3S NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2011.12.18 07:39:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:Gorefacer wrote:I I agree, it's absolutely the miners that won't work together or put effort into their endeavors that are to blame for suicide gankers getting to blow up massive amounts of ships "risk" free.
In light of this "revelation" it seems rather pointless for someone to start a thread to complain about a situation they have themselves helped create, doesn't it? Interesting. Where in the OP did you find a 'complaint?" I see no "complaint" there. I do see an amusing observation, but if you think not being quiet and just taking something is complaining...well....I know a shrink that could use another yacht. Why do people resort to mischaracterization to make their slam dunks? It's probably because the "opposition" doesn't have a leg to stand on.
Hmm I suppose you are right. I guess this thread bled in with all the other suicide gank threads I've skimmed which did contain complaints. I humbly apologize and retract my last post.
Furthermore, the OPs observation that not playing the game IS a foolproof way of not being suicide ganked, is sound. However as an observation of my own, his observation is so obvious on it's face value I question why he thought it at all valuable to make it in the first place. |
K Suri
Red Gooey Bananas
80
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Posted - 2011.12.18 07:55:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Freezehunter wrote:Sturmwolke wrote:Fool proof way of not getting scammed or ganked in RL is ... ... to just not live at all.
Don't you agree?
You forgot that IRL, the law actually works, and you are somewhat protected against these things. Besides, you can't get scammed IRL if you are not a gullible idiot. Same for Eve. In 5 years of playing this game, I've never been scammed or suicide ganked. All it takes is some ******* precaution. CCP should make an expansion that allows Eve players to be a part of Concord, and run around chasing criminals. Eve Police FTW! Personally I'd like an expansion where I, as a player, can permanently remove players from the game by killing them in the game. It is time to cull the weak. Let them by devoured by the strong. You didn't think that through very well did you? |
IGNATIUS HOOD
Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
225
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Posted - 2011.12.29 19:03:00 -
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Ganking is such a hot topic it's certain to get the trolls out in force.
Personally I see nothing wrong practice short of it being unsporting and in bad form, however preying on the week and defensless (ignorant, stupid, careless) is just Darwin's way of sorting out the bulls from the cows. In this way CCP has the right of the mechanic. I would suggest Concord should POD in High Sec and it would likely cut down on some of ganking. I won't suggest it becuase frankly I refuse to coddle those which Darwin would so readily dispose of.
Being ganked is lesson that must be learned by some and I imagine those who have been ganked are likely to remember being taught. As Tippia has stated in this thread there are many ways to avoid the unpleasantness of being ganked too many to bother listing frankly. The fault is not in the mechanic but in the user, this is where most problems lie IMO. Its not usually the app but the 8 inches between ones ears that tend cause the most problems for folks. 'perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim'
Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1184
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Posted - 2011.12.29 19:41:00 -
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Sharise Dragonstar wrote:My belief there are no penalties for suicide ganking. Getting your ship killed and losing sec status are penalties for suicide ganking. You might not believe they are harsh enough but to say there are no penalties at all is dumb.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.29 19:43:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Sharise Dragonstar wrote:My belief there are no penalties for suicide ganking. Getting your ship killed and losing sec status are penalties for suicide ganking. You might not believe they are harsh enough but to say there are no penalties at all is dumb.
But for someone those are promotions .. so go figure. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
518
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Posted - 2011.12.29 19:48:00 -
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I managed to carebear about highsec for more than a year without ever being ganked. I survived two botched attempts (ECM drones make a hilarious surprise) and evaded several more. I struggled with my own ignorance of the game far more than I did the anti-social behavior of others. |
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Ai Shun
State War Academy Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2011.12.29 20:25:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Since management is firmly planted in the "Let the Sociopaths Rule" position (sort of bent over...hands on knees...pants down...you know the drill)...it's FOOLISH to play Russian Roulette (sorry all you Rooskies out there) with your hard-earned assets on an endless merry-go-round of replacing ships you can afford to lose.
Bah. Of course management cares. They added a ship spinning counter to further entertain and amaze you.
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Roscojameson
The Riot Formation
10
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Posted - 2011.12.29 20:32:00 -
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Honestly, a lot of times it's your own fault if you get suicide ganked. I've been playing this game on and off for about 2 years, and I have yet to get suicide ganked, and I'm almost all carebear, mining and hauling included. All you have to do is be careful. If you're mining, and a thrasher/catalyst or something bigger shows up for no reason, dock. BAM! you still have your hulk, and "Sociopaths" don't get any tears. If you're hauling, don't use autopilot. Especially if you've got anything of worth. Jita undock? insta-warp to a safe.
Don't blame others because you haven't figured it out yet. |
Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2011.12.29 20:45:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Freezehunter wrote:You forgot that IRL, the law actually works, and you are somewhat protected against these things. Why do people always come up with this. Laws do not protect anybody, they only punish people. No law in the world can keep anybody from doing anything, if he really wants to do it. That's why making stricter and stricter laws is a stupidity on it's own, too. Quote:Besides, you can't get scammed IRL if you are not a gullible idiot. In 5 years of playing this game, I've never been scammed or suicide ganked.
Bullshit. Everybody can and will get scammed and saying you never got scammed makes you look like a liar. Quote:CCP should make an expansion that allows Eve players to be a part of Concord, and run around chasing criminals.
Eve Police FTW! Well, hopefully yes, but without you. Bro, the only way you can get scammed in Eve is if you don't ******* pay attention. I tend to double and triple check the **** out of every contract, market transaction, direct trade, courier job, and everything else that could scam me. If you were dumb enough to let it happen to you, don't assume people are lying when they say it never happened to them.
Poster was referring to real life, and you didn't comprehend what he wrote. In the same breath you are bragging about your leet comprehension skills. ******* post of the year IMHO.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
WarlockX
Free Trade Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.12.29 21:00:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:Solstice Project wrote: Laws do not protect anybody, they only punish people.
That's the point ... where is the punishment? Even -10 sec status Criminals have nothing to fear. CONCORD destroys their ships over and over and over and over .... and over again and NOTHING happens. Is CONCORD realy THAT stupid and can't catch them to arest them? And even more, even if they catch them ... they let them keep the goods they stole. Sorry CCP ... never in the past, not now and never in the future ANY police would allow this! And now the funny part .. When ever someone says: "In RL criminals ..." he get hardcore flamed :"EVE IS NOT REAL". And now the exact same criminals cry: "In RL blabla". This leads just to -> Gankers are a bunsh of pullshit talking trolls
That makes no sense from lore stand point how do you catch someone that will just kill himself if you try? Pod pilots are immortal they have no problems with killing themselves if you're trying "catch them to arest them". These are rules that work in a immortal society "you do bad we kill you" because there's no such thing as catch them. |
Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2011.12.29 21:06:00 -
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Also, anyone that ever told a victim that it is their fault is sub human.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
Ai Shun
State War Academy Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2011.12.29 21:10:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:******* post of the year IMHO.
Just wait until he posts again. Then you'll have another candidate for shitpost of the year
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Roscojameson
The Riot Formation
10
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Posted - 2011.12.29 21:11:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Also, anyone that ever told a victim that it is their fault is sub human.
You can't help what others do. All you can do is deny them yourself as a target. It's ignorant to believe a victim couldn't have done anything to prevent what's happened. |
Twylla
Blue.Shift
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Posted - 2011.12.29 21:17:00 -
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In Eve the inattentive are scammed. In Eve The unwary are killed. In Eve The trusting are robbed. In Eve The independant are drowned.
This game was built on a foundation of sociopathic enabling. Every action you take competes with everyone else. Every gain you make can be taken from you. Every trust you establish is meant to be betrayed.
It is up to you to either master taking the gains of others, develop the savvy to keep your gains, or lose your shirt. Carebear: Passive-agressive industralist; Prey. Gunrunner:-áIndustrialist with a lot of big guns, keeps big friends supplied with big guns, and doesn't take sh*t from anybody. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1184
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Posted - 2011.12.29 21:41:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Also, anyone that ever told a victim that it is their fault is sub human. You are so bad at trolling.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
743
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Posted - 2011.12.29 21:45:00 -
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although as much I would like to not undock my shipyard simply needs too many things to keep going. :(
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