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PuddinPants
First Flying Wing Inc
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Posted - 2007.05.31 20:47:00 -
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Great job on the guide. One question, While I am doing a research project for an agent. Can I do regular missions for a regular agent?
Thanks,
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Pod Moi
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Posted - 2007.06.07 22:41:00 -
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Fitz VonHeise
United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.06.08 11:12:00 -
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Youa missed one of the biggest ways to get more RP points.
In what ever research field you work for... the higher you research that particual field the more RP points you will get per day. At level 1 in Caldari Starship Engineering I was getting 75 per day. With level 4 I get over 200 RP per level IV agents. And the other aspect is the higher the level agent you use the more RP's you receive.
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Maxdamage
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Posted - 2007.07.14 06:03:00 -
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is it better to use a lvl 3 qual 16 or a lvl 4 -17 RD Agent?
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Fer4l
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Posted - 2007.07.16 18:59:00 -
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The level 4 will gain you more RP than the level 3. It's basically the same concept as regular mission agents... the lowest quality level 4 will be worth more than the highest quality level 3. |
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Posted - 2007.07.25 11:38:00 -
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Great guide!
I have 4 accounts. Do you think it is worth spending around 3-4 months to make 10 characters able to do the R&D Agents?
I think getting the standings will be a problem, But I could put them in a Corporation that has high standings already.
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Morticia Death
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Posted - 2007.08.21 18:48:00 -
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Can't find any research agents who still have blueprints in caldari or amarr space. Is CCP ever going to reseed the T2 BPOs?
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Morticia Death Can't find any research agents who still have blueprints in caldari or amarr space. Is CCP ever going to reseed the T2 BPOs?
The official reply is NO. The R&D lotto is dead. There are some small chances of a future implementation of a BP market with RP ponts (similar to the LP store) or further improvements in invention where you can get a T2 BPO, but for now they are on the discussion stage, not even on the drawingboard.
Originally by: Maxdamage is it better to use a lvl 3 qual 16 or a lvl 4 -17 RD Agent?
The RP formula is (your skill+agent skil)^2*(1+agent true quality/100)
Usually the agent skill level is equivalent to his level.
So doing some calculation you will see that the level 4 agent isn't always the more convenient.
It depend on your skill level and on your standing. If you have less than level 3 in the skill the level 4 is more convenient, if you have 4 or more the level 3 is more convenient.
At skill level 3 it is a fine balance dependant on your standing, the level 4 is more convenient if you have a good standing.
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Givenz
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Posted - 2007.09.26 07:55:00 -
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Edited by: Givenz on 26/09/2007 07:56:05 If your receive a evemail from research agent stating the research is halted what does this means? or what should the next thing to do? And how do you check your total research point?
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.26 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Givenz Edited by: Givenz on 26/09/2007 07:56:05 If your receive a evemail from research agent stating the research is halted what does this means? or what should the next thing to do? And how do you check your total research point?
It means he has a missionr eady for you. If you do the mission you get RP equivalent to 1 day of research. But even if you don't do the mission you still get the normal RP.
If you don't do the mission you will not get another mail till you speak with the agent.
You can check your total RP in your mission agenda, ther is a tab for all your Research agents with accumulated RP and RP per day for each of them.
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Dretzle Omega
Caldari Gear Ratio
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Posted - 2007.09.26 15:34:00 -
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Seems like this thread has been necroed a few times, but it seems to have very good information. One question: I'm not at the point that I can use Research Agents yet, but when I do, does it cost me anything? Or do I just set it to Research and go off and do my thing and at the end of the day I have Research Points which gets me free money from Datacores? (Or, I could use it to actually invent. ;) ) ------------------- 4 8 15 16 23 42 108 |
Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.27 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dretzle Omega Seems like this thread has been necroed a few times, but it seems to have very good information. One question: I'm not at the point that I can use Research Agents yet, but when I do, does it cost me anything? Or do I just set it to Research and go off and do my thing and at the end of the day I have Research Points which gets me free money from Datacores? (Or, I could use it to actually invent. ;) )
After you have trained the needed skills and started the R&D agents you have no further "costs" unless you want to do the missions for extra RP.
Even then it is a fairly small cost, as the missions are: bring me tritanium and move this 0,5 m3 package.
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Reznek
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Posted - 2007.10.03 00:34:00 -
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ok whats not covered or i missed is where does a noob with no skills yet, and no isk to afford those r and d skills needed to access an agent begin?
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Anini
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Posted - 2007.10.04 03:40:00 -
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You start out by finding the corp that has the R&D agents you are interested in and start with the other types of agents in the corp, such as security or personnel etc and run lvl 1 missions until you can run lvl 2 missions until you can run lvl 3 missions until finally you can run lvl 4 missions for that corp.
Then you should have made lots of isk to buy the skill books and start your research career.
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Ararius
EP0CH Black Sun Cartel
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Posted - 2007.10.12 18:15:00 -
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So what skills beyond Research Project Management do I need for my R&D alt for ME Datacores?
Or is that the only skill you need?
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.10.12 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ararius So what skills beyond Research Project Management do I need for my R&D alt for ME Datacores?
Or is that the only skill you need?
Did you read the guide?
Originally by: Jai Centarium
Skills Requirement: Research agents have requirements for skills, as well. Each agent’s info will list off the areas in which they can perform research. Higher-level agents will typically have more areas to choose from, though you can not perform research in multiple fields on a single research agent.
In order to begin research, you must have the skill that corresponds to the research area trained to Level I. These skills will have a prerequisite of Science V and either Mechanic, Electronics, or Engineering V.
So for Mechanical Engineering datacores you'd need ... drumroll... Mechanical Engineering!
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Ararius
EP0CH Black Sun Cartel
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Posted - 2007.10.13 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon So for Mechanical Engineering datacores you'd need ... drumroll... Mechanical Engineering!
Alright, my bad. Thanks for the confirmation, guess I need to read closer next time...
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Kafur
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Posted - 2007.10.31 18:00:00 -
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I tried to access a R&D Agent, that needs a standing of 6.65, when I dock at the station, this agent is shown as avaiable (my standing to him is shown as 6.7) and I can talk to him. I ask if he could perform some research for me, but he says that this would be a waste of time and I should get better standing. What is wrong? Isn't my standing high enough or am I missing something?
thx in advance, Kafur
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kafur I tried to access a R&D Agent, that needs a standing of 6.65, when I dock at the station, this agent is shown as avaiable (my standing to him is shown as 6.7) and I can talk to him. I ask if he could perform some research for me, but he says that this would be a waste of time and I should get better standing. What is wrong? Isn't my standing high enough or am I missing something?
thx in advance, Kafur
You have at least 1 science skill matching one of his?
You have the possibility to add another R&D agent? (1 agent is the base + 1 for every level in Research Project management)
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Kafur
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:56:00 -
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Yes, I ve got the nescessary skills, and a free R&D-Agent "Slot".
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Death Spirit
Caldari East to West Galactic Vaccaei Imperial
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
The R&D lotto is dead.
so its useless to use theese agents if u are looking for a T2 Bpo now..
looks like i will not be doing these kinds of missions...
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Dominator9987
Minmatar The Shambling Horde
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Posted - 2007.11.14 21:00:00 -
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I was told that standing and negotiation skill dont improve your RP / day, so I saught to test it out. I raised my research character's standing by 3.5 points, putting her right at 9.9, and I trained her negotiation skill to 4 instead of 2. This yielded no difference, explanation? post a link to the nerf lol.
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Slimmy
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.15 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Slimmy on 15/11/2007 22:26:36
Originally by: Dominator9987 I was told that standing and negotiation skill dont improve your RP / day, so I saught to test it out. I raised my research character's standing by 3.5 points, putting her right at 9.9, and I trained her negotiation skill to 4 instead of 2. This yielded no difference, explanation? post a link to the nerf lol.
When I got Mech Eng to 5 it didn't show a change in RPs/day until the next downtime. I guess it takes more than a day to do what you did though so you would have noticed. I'll try that on an alt.
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Delenda Cartago
Gemini Sun Frontline.
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Posted - 2007.11.16 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dominator9987 I was told that standing and negotiation skill dont improve your RP / day, so I saught to test it out. I raised my research character's standing by 3.5 points, putting her right at 9.9, and I trained her negotiation skill to 4 instead of 2. This yielded no difference, explanation? post a link to the nerf lol.
The RP/day gain from negotiation will be updated when you talk to the agent (if I'm not mistaken, it's the same way when you advance a level on your specific engineering skill, but then you can speak to the agent remotely). I have agents in the same field with the same level and quality in different corporations with very different standings (more than 1 point) but they give me exactly the same RP/day, so it's not clear to me how (or if) standing affects RP/day.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.16 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Venkul Mul on 16/11/2007 17:37:32
Originally by: Delenda Cartago
Originally by: Dominator9987 I was told that standing and negotiation skill dont improve your RP / day, so I saught to test it out. I raised my research character's standing by 3.5 points, putting her right at 9.9, and I trained her negotiation skill to 4 instead of 2. This yielded no difference, explanation? post a link to the nerf lol.
The RP/day gain from negotiation will be updated when you talk to the agent (if I'm not mistaken, it's the same way when you advance a level on your specific engineering skill, but then you can speak to the agent remotely). I have agents in the same field with the same level and quality in different corporations with very different standings (more than 1 point) but they give me exactly the same RP/day, so it's not clear to me how (or if) standing affects RP/day.
It is not standing, it is the agent true quality. Normally that value is modified by the standing with the agent, but the R&D missions don't give standing, so you will not get a standing increase (your standing with a corporation don't influence the true quality of an agent, only your personal standing with him).
A curious point is that a 0 quality agent give a 1,01 multiplyer, not a 1,00 as it should. I have noticed that with a quality 0 agent I have. From previsious check I recall that the other agent followed perfectly the formula for RP production, so it is an oddity.
RP production formula = [(agent skill+player skill)squared]*(1+agent true quality/100)
Negotiation increase the RP you get from doing the R&D missions but not the base value you get every day.
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Poco Estudiante
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Posted - 2007.12.04 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul Negotiation increase the RP you get from doing the R&D missions but not the base value you get every day.
That is not my experience. Last week I explicitly tested this on Tranquility, raising Negotiation from III to IV. Then I pulled up my three level three agents with the Journal. Each showed the original rp/day value. As soon as I started a conversation with each the rp/day value immediately went up (this were remote conversations).
Negotiation is a must if you want to make your own datacores. I doubt I'll raise it to V since I'm still maxing my research skills and and will be for many months to come.
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Saprob
STYGIAN WRAITH DANCERS
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Posted - 2008.01.02 01:37:00 -
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Is there anywhere that it has been officially writen that the RP lotto is dead? I would just like to have some confirmation on this. Seems to be a pointed lack of officially released information about this stuff from CCP.
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RazorRaven
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Posted - 2008.01.02 04:59:00 -
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I also cant access RnD agent? He is show as available to me, my standing is high enough, he is lvl 2 and my science skill is lvl 4. I have all necessary requirements and still nothing? How is it possible, is he overbooked? Its the one in Hek in Bounless Creation station.
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.02 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Saprob Is there anywhere that it has been officially writen that the RP lotto is dead? I would just like to have some confirmation on this. Seems to be a pointed lack of officially released information about this stuff from CCP.
It's dead Jim
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Maaku
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Posted - 2008.01.02 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: RazorRaven I also cant access RnD agent? He is show as available to me, my standing is high enough, he is lvl 2 and my science skill is lvl 4. I have all necessary requirements and still nothing? How is it possible, is he overbooked? Its the one in Hek in Bounless Creation station.
If you've just finished raising standings to be able to access the guy, sometimes he won't talk to you during the same session that you raised the standings in.
Try quitting out and restarting the game and then talking to him. If that doesn't work, try again after downtime.
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