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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2016.01.27 21:04:24 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Arla Sarain wrote:Anoron Secheh wrote: Yeah, it's next to impossible to catch them (pods) in lowsec. Except people do it on a daily basis. What, with smartbombs? Parking a ship in the path of a known pod-travel trajectory is not 'catching' anything. The only pods you're actually legitimately catching in lowsec are idiots, newbies, and afk'ers.
its pretty much just the same as cloaky sabres in null
"Yeah. Put your tears in a jet can and leave them on your undock for your assailants to pick up. If they're camping you, I'm sure they're going to get thirsty." - Darth Squeemus
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Angel Cartel || Serpentis
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Torothin
TEC-NOLOGY Sorry We're In Your Space Eh
273
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Posted - 2016.01.27 21:22:36 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Torothin wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Torothin wrote:If I could lose my ship and not fear about losing my 1.5B worth of implants due to no bubbles in null then I wouldn't have made this post. Life must truly be nice as a low sec PvPer. In null, just go to an empty system and have no fear of losing anything. Nullsec isn't more dangerous just because there are bubbles. Every space has it's unique risks and styles of gameplay and threads based on claiming others have it easier is just chest beating, yet go and look at your own killboard: 92 losses with 1428 kills. Risk mitigation seems just fine. So you call it risk mitigation and not the results of a veteran PvPer? Being in a big fleet, shooting lots of structures, all these things and more add up to the typical nulseccer's 90%+ success rate. Meanwhile, if you're solo in low, and doing better than 50% success rate, there's little chance that some nulsec fleet tramp is going to get the better of you. At least, not without a hundred of his buddies. Sometimes, the risk is its own reward, but there is a big difference between risk mitigation, and risk aversion. I suggest you actually spend some time solo in lowsec before you call it 'easy mode'.
You're basing your statement that all null sec pvpers belong to sov holding alliances and are F1 monkeys. I think you need to experience this game more. |
Remiel Pollard
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
7496
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Posted - 2016.01.27 21:43:34 -
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Torothin wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Torothin wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Torothin wrote:If I could lose my ship and not fear about losing my 1.5B worth of implants due to no bubbles in null then I wouldn't have made this post. Life must truly be nice as a low sec PvPer. In null, just go to an empty system and have no fear of losing anything. Nullsec isn't more dangerous just because there are bubbles. Every space has it's unique risks and styles of gameplay and threads based on claiming others have it easier is just chest beating, yet go and look at your own killboard: 92 losses with 1428 kills. Risk mitigation seems just fine. So you call it risk mitigation and not the results of a veteran PvPer? Being in a big fleet, shooting lots of structures, all these things and more add up to the typical nulseccer's 90%+ success rate. Meanwhile, if you're solo in low, and doing better than 50% success rate, there's little chance that some nulsec fleet tramp is going to get the better of you. At least, not without a hundred of his buddies. Sometimes, the risk is its own reward, but there is a big difference between risk mitigation, and risk aversion. I suggest you actually spend some time solo in lowsec before you call it 'easy mode'. You're basing your statement that all null sec pvpers belong to sov holding alliances and are F1 monkeys. I think you need to experience this game more.
And you're basing your assertions about lowsec PVP'ers on your false perceptions of low sec risk. So right back at ya there, buddy.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Remiel Pollard
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
7496
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Posted - 2016.01.27 21:45:03 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Arla Sarain wrote:Anoron Secheh wrote: Yeah, it's next to impossible to catch them (pods) in lowsec. Except people do it on a daily basis. What, with smartbombs? Parking a ship in the path of a known pod-travel trajectory is not 'catching' anything. The only pods you're actually legitimately catching in lowsec are idiots, newbies, and afk'ers. its pretty much just the same as cloaky sabres in null
It would be, if Sabres weren't substantially cheaper than what is required to smartbomb a pod and tank the gate guns.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4358
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Posted - 2016.01.28 04:00:53 -
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Just get in and try it, OP. It's a little different than 'leet null sec PVP. It's totally chaotic and unpredictable. Throw your DPS and EFT calculations out-- or apply them in fractions of seconds.
Neil Young and Crazy Horse - Harsher and tougher than punk
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Kuetlzelcoatl
26
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Posted - 2016.01.28 17:50:18 -
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So, should Eve only have one type of Pvp? Hi Sec, Low Sec, Null Sec, or WH only?
Or should Eve have multiple types where the rules are different and players with different RL situations can find a place to play the way they want that doesn't interfere to much with their RL obligations?
I say we have multiple ways, since there are many different RL situations you can find yourself in that are not conducive to some of the more demanding Pvp types.
PS: Btw, we all know the only people that can truly support Null Sec game play are of the Neck-Beard variety of the parental Hobit-Hole basement dwellers with a dash of Vampirism.
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May Arethusa
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
113
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Posted - 2016.01.29 07:17:35 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Arla Sarain wrote:Anoron Secheh wrote: Yeah, it's next to impossible to catch them (pods) in lowsec. Except people do it on a daily basis. What, with smartbombs? Parking a ship in the path of a known pod-travel trajectory is not 'catching' anything. The only pods you're actually legitimately catching in lowsec are idiots, newbies, and afk'ers.
Remiel Pollard wrote:End of the day, though, there's no 'real' pvp, or pvp*, there is just pvp.
By your own logic killing pods is killing pods, regardless of the method employed. |
xpl0de
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2016.01.30 09:52:25 -
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lawl OP thinks pods are only killed by smart bombs in low. Trust me you get pods all the time down here people have always been ******** at bailing. -10 life is Eve on hard mode. Low > null by far. |
Remiel Pollard
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
7502
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Posted - 2016.01.30 18:07:01 -
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May Arethusa wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Arla Sarain wrote:Anoron Secheh wrote: Yeah, it's next to impossible to catch them (pods) in lowsec. Except people do it on a daily basis. What, with smartbombs? Parking a ship in the path of a known pod-travel trajectory is not 'catching' anything. The only pods you're actually legitimately catching in lowsec are idiots, newbies, and afk'ers. Remiel Pollard wrote:End of the day, though, there's no 'real' pvp, or pvp*, there is just pvp. By your own logic killing pods is killing pods, regardless of the method employed.
I didn't say it wasn't. I said, 'catching' and 'waiting along their route' are not the same thing. A 'catch' implies a chase, and a chance at evasion. I never said anything about the legitimacy of the kill. You really should try to read things accurately before you comment on them, lest you accidentally (intentionally?) misrepresent someone's position. It's quite intellectually dishonest.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Tiberius Mathusia
Gallente Rebels Inc. Villore Accords
15
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Posted - 2016.02.01 13:57:53 -
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Torothin wrote:No fear of bubbles and losing those expensive implants upon blowing up must be nice. Is this considered PvP with an asterisk beside it?
Is putting a bubble on a gate and blapping whatever comes through considered hardmode? The mechanics are different but I wouldn't say one was any easier or harder than the other. |
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Torothin
TEC-NOLOGY Sorry We're In Your Space Eh
273
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Posted - 2016.02.01 14:47:17 -
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Tiberius Mathusia wrote:Torothin wrote:No fear of bubbles and losing those expensive implants upon blowing up must be nice. Is this considered PvP with an asterisk beside it? Is putting a bubble on a gate and blapping whatever comes through considered hardmode? The mechanics are different but I wouldn't say one was any easier or harder than the other.
There are also these things called Dictors kind sir. |
rsantos
TEC-NOLOGY Sorry We're In Your Space Eh
48
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Posted - 2016.02.02 15:18:32 -
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What about those gate and station guns! oh no! |
Dreaded Vengance
CTRL-Q Spaceship Bebop
82
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Posted - 2016.02.02 16:08:08 -
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On the pod question: one can just go to zKillboard - look up capsules, click losses. It's pretty simple really.
Last 7 days; fair mix of high, low, null in the top 10 - you can lose a pod anywhere. Those of us that are -10 are catching pods daily, I think I only every bothered to smartbomb one, ever. I don't know if he operates in null but we also have Santo, even the most hardened pirate has him on a watchlist.
Also, nice bait OP.
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W33b3l
The Scope Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2016.02.03 02:07:41 -
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The thing about lowsec is the Sec Loss. The reason your pod is safer is because of the severe Security Status hit if you blow one up. Unless you are fine being permanently red in highsec you have to grind it back up and pick your targets. Gate and station guns are not much of a problem anymore since if you warp away and come back they stop shooting, but it means that you cant PVP anywhere near them in anything smaller then a cruiser. If in something that can laugh at there DPS, its really hard to engage in a "fair" or "good" fight because the person that shoots first is taking extra damage. Hence fighting on stations or gates mainly being piracy or tricking someone else to shoot first.
Lowsec is good for casual pirating or practicing gate camps on noobs in haulers dumb enough to ignore the warning message, Ive done a lot of that. The problem is that if other people show up it turns into a numbers game, almost like a tiny version of a blob. You and your friends (if any) are only top dog until someone else shows up, but thats common anywhere. Sometimes people will show up in a frig or something and ask if you want to 1V1 at the sun but its rare. Its even more rare that the hold to it and there friend thats been cloaked or docked in a Force recon all day (looking AFK) doesnt show up and help.
I wont claim to be an awesome PVP'er, I am good at flying my ships and understand things pretty damn well for someone with my experience (sparing with people from 2003), but the only reason my KDR is so stupid high is because I mainly hunt for sport and pirate things that I know I have a good chance of not dying against. Lowsec can be really fun because of the numbers game or just messing with people fir giggles that think they are "going to take over the system" (I love those people lol). You can do really well if you play smart, and lowsec is one of those places that favor the sly pilot that knows the area, but it is not easy mode. Its much harder in a lot of ways.
I actually miss WH PVP, and want to try some NPC Null. Find a spot that not too deep and recon the locals and have some fun. Somewhere I dont have to worry about sec status or safeties. But if you want "real" PVP in lowsec.. its way to random to be "easy" and if you base out of highsec, it can have it consequences.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
1500
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Posted - 2016.02.03 13:57:07 -
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No you'r thinking of hs Staton campers
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