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Ryysa
North Face Force
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Posted - 2007.01.17 18:05:00 -
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Btw, maelstrom can tank way better than typhoon. What you forget is: a) Shield = active omniresist mods. b) DCU goes in lowslot. c) Crystal set vs Slave set, Gist Shield Boosters
For PvE, in majority of situations you want to have a sustained tank which can tank the damage for a very long time. Thus crystal set is much better. I'm talking higher-end fittings. Since when you are pve-ing, unless you are stupid, you tend not to get killed.
Even if you ignore my first two points, just due to the fact how crystal and slave set works, in pve terms, maelstrom has better tank than typhoon.
Other than that, the ship sucks, sell it and buy a machariel/tempest >.<
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Sumayyah
Minmatar Dynamic Endeavors
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Posted - 2007.01.17 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ath Amon my graph was not meant to show max dps or i had loaded the phoon with 3 if not 6 damage mods...
in the first graph the phoon gets 0 damage mods vs 3 of mael... in second graph it have 2, again vs 3 of mael
best solution for mael will be probably to load 2 heavy 5 mid or 3 heavy 5 light... but as graph can't mix drones i fear you will have to live with it and eventually consider that you can boost your damage by probably 4-5%
Thanks but can you please do one with 4 large t2 drones since they will have more dps than the 5 mediums thanks I'm an ! I will always be an ! that is all I have to say But thats not all!!! Dynamic Endeavors is now Recuiting.!! Contact Jet Collins in game. |
Ath Amon
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Posted - 2007.01.17 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: Ath Amon on 17/01/2007 18:45:18
Originally by: Tiuwaz the maelstrom currently doesnt have a role, thats not to say that its useless but it only is worth it in some very niche roles
its like sifting through a trash can and finding some good things
i played around with the mael alot (i want to use my minni BS 5 :P) and i found a few setups i actually like and i will devote som training time towards shield skills, but they are rather niche and sometimes you really have to fight against the design
ac mael is one of the more interesting ones and anyone who fitted it and has flown it cant tell me he cant feel how he is battling against the design
the high mass, the small cargobay, no remaining hardpoints for nos, cpu restrictions for ac fittings with heavy tank, the need to ditch any tackle or mwd (thats a bigger issue for turret ships than missile ships)
tanked sniper mael is under current game mechanics an oddball with some uses in pve and very niche in pvp
does it totally suck? no probably not, that doesnt mean that its not in need of some changes. and granted its a bit hard to judge as large arties and imo large acs aswell are in dire need of help
totallllllllllllly agree, expecially about the Arty part..
@Sumayyah
here a graph with ogres2
little note, i kept a standard pve setup for the phoon so 2 damage mods and 5 armor tank...
important: - the phoon with 1200mm + siege + 1 damage mod (purple line) is to represent a config with 4 siege + 2 1200mm t2 + 2 bcu as the dps is quite similar
- the phoon with 1200mm t1 + cruise + 2 bcu (red line) is meant to simulate a ship with 4 cruise + 3 1200mm t2 + 2 bcu
graph on request
Originally by: Diana Merris
Unfortunately, rather than address the slot layout/tanking issues for Minmatar the Devs have simple declared that it makes us "versitile".
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2007.01.17 18:55:00 -
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Maelstroms role: Sniper boat for anyone without Minmatar BS 5 and spare ISK Tempests role: Sniper boat for anyone with Minmatar BS 5 who doesn't like paying an extra ~100m for a few extra DPS
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MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.17 19:03:00 -
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Well after playing with ship for a day I sold it. Even with rigs it isn't that great. The mass is just too high, I don't like fitting mwd's to shield tankers and using arty the tempest does a better job. -=====-
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