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Sir Clancy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.16 16:13:03 -
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I have had this Idea in the back of my head for awhile now, Living in lowsec, Nullsec, Wormholes, without ever making one place a permanent home.
Using an alt in a Carrier/Rorqual/Jump Freighter To house most of my fits/ships. Using another alt for Covert Cyno. Scouting, secondary help in DED sites, etc I could Drop into 0.0 for awhile, roaming around,
Possibly carry a Small tower and Stront for temporary living space while Wormholing if I find one I like
The goal would be to bounce around Lowsec/Nullsec looking for fights, Sites, etc while being able to refit or reship accordingly.
Being able to change my ship or fit every once in awhile would let me choose better engagements with locals, or let me run the odd Site or two that I may stumble across.
Any Further Ideas on this? Do you think its Viable? |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2015.09.16 16:30:45 -
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I had the same Idea. But I have taken different path.
With Stratios and drones I can solo 6/10 in blood raider space, I can refit with mobile depot. Drones are for DPS and I have remote reppers. Stratios have fairly big cargo bay.
I can be self sufficient and usually can stay under the radar. But I should be more carefull I noticed. You risk your ship and your ship is your home after all.
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12365
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Posted - 2015.09.16 16:35:56 -
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Sir Clancy wrote:I have had this Idea in the back of my head for awhile now, Living in lowsec, Nullsec, Wormholes, without ever making one place a permanent home.
Using an alt in a Carrier/Rorqual/Jump Freighter To house most of my fits/ships. Using another alt for Covert Cyno. Scouting, secondary help in DED sites, etc I could Drop into 0.0 for awhile, roaming around,
Possibly carry a Small tower and Stront for temporary living space while Wormholing if I find one I like
The goal would be to bounce around Lowsec/Nullsec looking for fights, Sites, etc while being able to refit or reship accordingly.
Being able to change my ship or fit every once in awhile would let me choose better engagements with locals, or let me run the odd Site or two that I may stumble across.
Any Further Ideas on this? Do you think its Viable?
I've done the nomad thing a few times over the years, it's not my 'natural state' but it's a nice change of pace.
I had 3 accounts, 1 would light a cyno in a rapier, the other would jump a carrier in, the carrier would cloak in a safe and be my 'ninja ratting base camp'. I would use HACs (Ishtar/Cerb) and pirate cruisers (Gila) to rat with because you could tank them enough to do even the 10/10s and they could escape will, I avoided T3s because of skill loss. You were going to die eventually.
It was fun till jump range changes made it a chore. |
Sir Clancy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.16 16:42:18 -
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@Jenn aSide Yeah I am a little worried about how hard it will be to move around due to the fatigue, but I am hoping it will be something i can learn to live with. I wish carriers held more, or Rorqs could hold non mining ships... Would make it more flexible. Maybe I should get a Mothership so i can :)
But its Interesting to see someone else has the same kind of Idea I do! |
Noun
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.16 18:58:00 -
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Im living it atm! Bowhead/orca/prober/ogbooster alt whit some mining/indy skills whit a pvp main. Mostly roaming high/low sec for easy isk and some fw solo pvp. Theres alot of low sec entrys thats all empty so its quiet easy to move the bowhead in and out(using webs whit main tho)
If i were to be going into npc null it would be done whit 1 Carrier/prober alt. 2 low sp cyno alt 3 main character. alot of the deds in null can be done solo whit the right ship, sure its alot of isk involved but theres plenty to make. You could use that prober alt for some little logi support. AND use a low sp cyno alt, no need to invest any sp at all in that as it will be shot down alot. Its viable for sure! |
Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2015.09.16 19:19:57 -
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I've been considering this for a while, and tbh actually moving all of your stuff seems too much work to me (but I'm really lazy). When moving large distances I normally either firesale the lot, use carriers, or just jump a load of stuff into highsec on an alt and have it couriered. This last is ridiculously cheap and quick compared to doing it yourself, but these are usually one way moves. I can see why some people enjoy the challenge of moving their own stuff about, used to do this a lot early on. Suitcase carrier ftw (thank god it never died because I fit it with cargo expanders, lol). Haven't really used the bowhead yet. You can use wormholes to create a sort of superhighway with a bit of practice, look up Siggy. Some use Thera as a base to access different areas, but it's a hotzone so not ideal to move PVE ships through. Maybe it's worth creating a specific base (ideally somewhere with a strong market), then looking at travel options from that?
Personally, I'd move clones to specific spots then seed each station with various ships. Even if it means buying at a markup from the local market for convenience. If the market looks rubbish and the area has traffic, creating your own minihub is always a nice stream of background income. This is sort of what we've all been doing for a while with alts, but it's viable with one character now you can make upto 11 jump clones with no standing requirements and jump every 19 hours or so with max skills.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1432
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Posted - 2015.09.16 19:24:02 -
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Sounds like a lot of micro-management ... I have a base in Thera, roam wherever the connections will lead and buy my stuff at the closest trade hub on demand. Additionally I have a couple of jump clones with ships in selected locations, but they are rarely used anymore in the post-Thera era. One account, one (skilled) char.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Sir Clancy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.16 19:57:54 -
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Noun wrote:Im living it atm! Bowhead/orca/prober/ogbooster alt whit some mining/indy skills whit a pvp main. Mostly roaming high/low sec for easy isk and some fw solo pvp. Theres alot of low sec entrys thats all empty so its quiet easy to move the bowhead in and out(using webs whit main tho)
If i were to be going into npc null it would be done whit 1 Carrier/prober alt. 2 low sp cyno alt 3 main character. alot of the deds in null can be done solo whit the right ship, sure its alot of isk involved but theres plenty to make. You could use that prober alt for some little logi support. AND use a low sp cyno alt, no need to invest any sp at all in that as it will be shot down alot. Its viable for sure!
Yeah I am thinking of doing: Carrier Alt Loki alt for Covert Cyno's and scouting and Webbing the Carrier If I need to use a gate, Main for T3 Plexing, or maybe a Gila/Ishtar/Stratios I don't know yet. :) excited though
It probably will be alot of work, but the idea of doing something I haven't in eve yet Thrills me.
Im glad to see people already attempting the same thing, Even if it isn't lucrative, im sure it will be something I can say that ive done. |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
428
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Posted - 2015.09.16 20:56:12 -
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An alliance living nomadic? That will never work! |
Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2015.09.16 21:08:48 -
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WarFireV wrote:An alliance living nomadic? That will never work! I think OP is talking about doing it solo, which has a hell of a lot of upsides (mostly not having to deal with shitbird blues).
And your version of nomadic was dropping supers on cruiser gangs and smugging about it. So shut yer trap.
It's amusing watching you lot flail about now your i-win button is broken, despite having the biggest and baddest elites, the most ISK, and probably the most contacts ingame.
Shame you let all that trash in though, eh (It started with BUSA, btw)
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Kanzero
Virtus Crusade Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.16 21:35:23 -
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That escalated quickly^
On topic: I've tried it with an orca alt as the base and the main for pvp/pve stuff. It was fun for a bit, but gets tiresome real quick, you want to just relax and dock up at some point. |
LanLanLoo
I'm Sexy And I Know It
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Posted - 2015.09.16 22:13:06 -
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Pardon my ignorance but can a carrier even jump to a covert cyno? I thought those were special or something? |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2015.09.17 06:54:31 -
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LanLanLoo wrote:Pardon my ignorance but can a carrier even jump to a covert cyno? I thought those were special or something?
no carriers cant use covert cynos, i wouldnt fancy leaving a loki for 10mins in null while your cyno burns out
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Rek Seven
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
2006
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Posted - 2015.09.17 07:25:04 -
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The mobile depots have made it easier to do the solos nomadic thing but I wish it was easier to do it permanently or as a corp.
It would be cool if there was a jump capable ship that could be turned into a mobile base. A black ops orca, redesigned rorqual or a T3 mobile structure with unique mods, is what i have in mind.
You sound like an idiot when you say "create content" when you mean find a fight, gank, etc... Stop it!
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
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Posted - 2015.09.17 08:21:47 -
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Back when super caps were supposed to be mobile stations, this was a common theme. But then CCP had to ruin it with the internet spaceship equivalent of a nuclear arms race.
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Maya Bewell
MorningStar Technology
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Posted - 2015.09.17 11:05:23 -
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Sir Clancy wrote:I have had this Idea in the back of my head for awhile now, Living in lowsec, Nullsec, Wormholes, without ever making one place a permanent home.
Using an alt in a Carrier/Rorqual/Jump Freighter To house most of my fits/ships. Using another alt for Covert Cyno. Scouting, secondary help in DED sites, etc I could Drop into 0.0 for awhile, roaming around,
Possibly carry a Small tower and Stront for temporary living space while Wormholing if I find one I like
The goal would be to bounce around Lowsec/Nullsec looking for fights, Sites, etc while being able to refit or reship accordingly.
Being able to change my ship or fit every once in awhile would let me choose better engagements with locals, or let me run the odd Site or two that I may stumble across.
Any Further Ideas on this? Do you think its Viable?
Very doable and enjoyable. Carrier suitcase / Drone based DPS is an excellent solution.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2015.09.17 11:10:43 -
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Rek Seven wrote:The mobile depots have made it easier to do the solos nomadic thing but I wish it was easier to do it permanently or as a corp.
It would be cool if there was a jump capable ship that could be turned into a mobile base. A black ops orca, redesigned rorqual or a T3 mobile structure with unique mods, is what i have in mind.
Rorqual looks like a mobile production plant. Could produce everything beside spaceships.
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WASPY69
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
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Posted - 2015.09.17 12:55:42 -
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That's a pretty dumb idea OP. You will only lose your carrier and your main will get podded etc.. It's inevitable really. what happens if you're in your wormhole and lose your probing ship for example?
You're assuming no one will strap on their autism helmet and go out of their way to hunt you, especially after posting your idea on here. EVE is all about strength in numbers m8, you will get **** on if you attempt to do this alone. Engagement with the locals? Good thing people have e-honor and won't bring falcon alts or logi. Run sites then? Surely no one will combat probe you.
You're playing the wrong game if you think you can stand up against all of EVE on your own. The closest best thing I would recommend is get a T3 and load it up with some fits and a depot for refit then daytrip to null or something.
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Tiberius Heth
Say No to Features
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Posted - 2015.09.17 14:53:31 -
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wrote:That's a pretty dumb idea OP. You will only lose your carrier and your main will get podded etc.. It's inevitable really. what happens if you're in your wormhole and lose your probing ship for example?
You're assuming no one will strap on their autism helmet and go out of their way to hunt you, especially after posting your idea on here. EVE is all about strength in numbers m8, you will get **** on if you attempt to do this alone. Engagement with the locals? Good thing people have e-honor and won't bring falcon alts or logi. Run sites then? Surely no one will combat probe you.
You're playing the wrong game if you think you can stand up against all of EVE on your own. The closest best thing I would recommend is get a T3 and load it up with some fits and a depot for refit then daytrip to null or something.
Stop being dumb. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2015.09.17 16:03:47 -
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He does have right in that the death is inevitable in EVE when you move thru the regions known to have dwellers that like to PVP, with all your ships and cargo.
No amount of cerefullness will prevent you from inevitable, some day, someone will have enough luck, and you will have anough lazy mind to slip into Capsule and then into new clone.
Dealing with that situation would require you to have spare ships, spare clones, located in some moving base if it must be a whole nomad experience.
On earth nomadic people usually stay in one place some time and then move to another, from camp to camp. They have certain locations they move thru, that are known to be safe and abundant into resources. Nomadic people move with all they own. If they are ambushed they lose everything and must start everything again from scrap.
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Cancel Align NOW
Maas Industries
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Posted - 2015.09.17 17:35:49 -
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I tried it for a few weeks. Post Phoebe logistics were painful. I also enjoy the company of others. |
WASPY69
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
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Posted - 2015.09.17 17:52:11 -
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What I don't get is why people would wanna play EVE like it's a singleplayer game in the first place.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2015.09.17 18:06:21 -
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You should get it eventually. Some people would like to play every game like that. FIrst, they like not to be dependent on others, second, they dont like others to tell them what to do, third, they dont like other people as much as they like peacefull solitary confinement and focus on the goal. There are more causes to this gameplay, search if you want.
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.09.17 18:59:33 -
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WASPY69 wrote:What I don't get is why people would wanna play EVE like it's a singleplayer game in the first place.
Taking a foray into deep space isn't playing the game like it's a single player game. Last time I did it, i wa sunder constant threat, I lost 2 cyno recon ships and a PVE fit maelstrom before it was all done, but still made a profit and managed to (totally mistakenly) get 2 solo kills.
One of those kills was a fleet stabber that was part of a larger gang that had just past, he was a straggler and managed to find me and point me. I aligned to a moon and killed him with fighters and target painters, I warped out just as some of his fleet mates were landing on our grid and jumped to my waiting low sec cyno without even waiting for the fighters (I had several more ratting ships and like 4 bil in loot in the carrier, didn't want to risk losing that waiting for a few hundred mil worth of fighters).
Nomad/ninja ratitng lifestyle is a nice change of pace sometimes.
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Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2015.09.17 19:02:57 -
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WASPY69 wrote:What I don't get is why people would wanna play EVE like it's a singleplayer game in the first place. It's not so much wanting to play in singleplayer if you acknowledge there are other players out there rather than NPCs. I've been in corps since starting but I still maintain solo alts. Gives you back that feeling you had as a rookie when you first undock, look around and realise how massive the game is. There is something really exciting about the unknown, and you lose some of that sensation in player groups. Fair play they are trying to make things easier, but the difficulty is part of the challenge (and sense of personal acheivement, rather than group). Plus there's loads to do/see and you can go anywhere solo where it's hard to take a group. Also you can appreciate things differently without your corpies chattering away, it gives you time to really look around without being on someone elses timetable. I've always maintained indy alts, and I can see why people have hidden mining/mission alts to decompress on occasionally. It's relaxing. I lke flying about staring at different nebulas and listening to music, and if anyone I know bothers me I pretend to be afk until they sod off :P Anonymity helps too.
Cancel Align NOW wrote: I also enjoy the company of others. Player groups are awesome but they're riddled with bickering, rivalry and people attempting to tell you all the time what to wear/who to talk to/who to like/how to play etc. Does get a bit tiresome sometimes. That little rebellious streak in a lot of us rejects being bossed about so some of us screw it off and ignore our own corpies on alts occasionally. Or never bother with corps in the first place. Might be down to personality types, but some of us are happy enough pottering about on our own or have had bad experiences in bigger groups.
One thing playing this long has taught me, as long as you make the effort, you can chat to just about anyone (including whoever just shot your spaceboat) and make friends everywhere. You don't have to be part of a corp or alliance to enjoy the company of other players. Most of my favourite conversations have been with people chasing me about trying to kill me, lol.
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WASPY69
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
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Posted - 2015.09.17 19:32:02 -
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Your posts make no sense and you completely missed my point.
Being in a big corp/alliance you can do every single activity you would do as a "nomad". Jump down to your private channel on TS and grab a solo ship and daytrip somewhere be it for pve or pvp. Being part of a big group doesn't mean you lose the ability to create your own content... Hell you can even take a "vacation" to an entirely different place for a week or something while still being in the corp.
Personally I'm part of a very big and very active group, but i still do "solo" activities from time to time. I just prefer to be a part of an awesome community of people and fly with them and having the option to call for backup etc.. And on the flip side, solo roaming for example may stir up a huge fight and I can jump up a channel on comms and everyone can grab their favorite autism chariot and join the fight.
Sure I get the whole concept, and it's a cool challenge perhaps, but ultimately you'd have a much better time doing the same thing but being part of a group.
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Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2015.09.17 19:43:22 -
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WASPY69 wrote:Your posts make no sense and you completely missed my point. It's a different perspective. Probably why it makes no sense because, hurr, it's not yours. Try read it again without deciding whether it's right or wrong. I'm not disagreeing with yours having done both, I'm explaining why the alternatives are attractive.
WASPY69 wrote:Sure I get the whole concept, and it's a cool challenge perhaps, but ultimately you'd have a much better time doing the same thing but being part of a group. Down to personal taste. I'm not being told what to enjoy. You can try pursuade, but once you slip into 'your version is better than mine' you'll get a mental obscene hand gesture.
One of my earliest CEOs bitched about pirates and banned the corp from lowsec pvp because he had lost his first battleship and ragequit for 6 months over it. He was a massive carebear who flew a 60b mission boat. I liked him, but he got on my nerves, so I never bothered to mention I had a yarr alt. Another Director was a Bobbit alt who sperged and raved endlessly about Goons. So I went and started reading Something Awful just to spite him. Every corp and alliance I've ever been in has seriously whinged and bleated about their enemies (sometimes these grudges go back years, and are laughable). So I've changed sides. **** em. They're still friends but they talk a load of bollocks at times, and some of it is just talking themselves up. Feels a lot like brainwashing tbh, and sadly I think a lot of people fall for it. But it's actually fun to play as an independent thinker even within your current group, because then you can go anywhere. And surprising how offensive that attitude is.
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Tiberius Heth
Say No to Features
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Posted - 2015.09.17 19:56:55 -
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There's a very distinct difference between "well, it's not the safest thing to do" and "holy shitballs, you're doomed DOOOOOMED!!!! You should stick to what I do and for ever and ever rely on others!!!!!". |
Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2015.09.17 20:09:03 -
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Tiberius Heth wrote:There's a very distinct difference between "well, it's not the safest thing to do" and "holy shitballs, you're doomed DOOOOOMED!!!! You should stick to what I do and for ever and ever rely on others!!!!!". Also: 'You're an idiot for even trying that on your own' 'Get friends' 'Get moar friends' 'Don't talk back, just do as you're told' 'STFU noob' 'My version of fun is better than yours' etc etc
Whateva
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Zihao
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.09.18 00:13:18 -
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While I prefer at least a social corp atmosphere while I solo, I can see where there's ample incentive to stay in the wardec-free NPC corp. |
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