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DrunkMiner
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Posted - 2006.12.16 23:46:00 -
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Make a setup not using any rigs to give a drake max recharge rate for its shields only 2 rules.
1)needs to leave space for a bcu2 in low
2)cannot use alternative power sources like flatulance of brain waves
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Ebedar
Gallente Primary Intelligence
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Posted - 2006.12.17 00:05:00 -
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Won't it just be: 6 x Large Shield Extender II (with Shield Upgrades and Shield Management 5) 3 x named shield power relays (with Shield Operation 5)? ~
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Arktaos
Minmatar The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.12.17 00:05:00 -
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6 x Large Shield Extender II 3 x Shield power relay, 1 x BCU II ---------------------------------
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DrunkMiner
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Posted - 2006.12.17 00:28:00 -
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RECHARGE guys, not shield amount extenders ftl
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.17 00:34:00 -
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Recharge = HP / Recharge Time.
Having more HP thus improves Recharge.
It's great being Amarr, aint it?
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Areconus
Caldari Cereal Killerz
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Posted - 2006.12.17 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkMiner RECHARGE guys, not shield amount extenders ftl
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X99 Z990
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Posted - 2006.12.17 01:21:00 -
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Yea the guy actually does mean recharge rate not hp/s
Still a bit simple though.
6x shield recharger II 3x shield flux coil II 1x bcu II
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DiuxDium
The Graduates
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Posted - 2006.12.17 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: DiuxDium on 17/12/2006 01:25:33
Originally by: DrunkMiner RECHARGE guys, not shield amount extenders ftl
Edit: I think you ment to say "Minimum Shield Recharge time". LSE's will give you the best bang for the buck, to do the above though.
Double edit, ^^^^^^^^^ beat me to the punch.
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Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2006.12.17 09:45:00 -
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I wonder if the Drake can beat any of the Gallente shield recharge records. Passive shield tanking guide click here |
LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.17 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 17/12/2006 11:30:53
Originally by: Pottsey I wonder if the Drake can beat any of the Gallente shield recharge records.
Tbh i still think best recharge time in its class can be on amarr ships due to most lowslots. Result will be ofc useless... passive shield tanked geddon 4TL. -------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2006.12.17 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: X99 Z990 Yea the guy actually does mean recharge rate not hp/s Still a bit simple though. 6x shield recharger II 3x shield flux coil II 1x bcu II
If he would have meant recharge time he would have said recharge time, not recharge rate... no ? That aside, this setup above does indeed give the best recharge time.
However, I suppose he meant shield recharge rate, that DOES equal shield/second. And the obvious answer for that would be 3 SPRs, 4-5 Large Extenders and 2-1 rechargers. But that would be murder on the grid, so usually you only want to fit 2 or max 3 extenders, especially if you plan on also fitting weapons... so 3 extenders and 3 rechargers would be the way to go then.
Still, that's pretty useless too, as shield/second without resists is kind of pointless. ___
To the OP: please specify a bit MORE CLEARLY what you actually want.
Do you want a pure tanking setup (no weapons) or a working (full weapons) setup ? Do you just want raw recharge, or are you actually interested in DPS sustainable without breaking the tank ? What are your skills, and what implants are you using, or we can assume any skills/implants are not a problem ? Do you need an omni-tank or a specific damage combo tank ? Do you find yourself in a NOS-vulnerable or a NOS-irelevant situation ?
...and so on and so forth. _ My skills | Mod/Rig stacknerfing explained |
DrunkMiner
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Posted - 2006.12.19 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: DrunkMiner on 19/12/2006 15:39:25 To Akira T:
It would be nice to fit a rack of t2 heavy launchers. I am a mission runner so raw recharge. I am still working on my shield skills but shield recharge skill is at 5 already.I am working on my shield compensation skills at the moment so that should help a bit. Omni Tank as changing setups gets annoying when u try to speed mission. I mainly do level 3 missions so NOS does no come into it, i am looking to move the drake to level 4 missions tho, so have no idea if i should worry about NOS then.
I have a resist setup just i would like a rechargerate one too so i can continue my tinkersomenessisationalism!!!
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2006.12.19 19:48:00 -
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Come on people, don't just blurt out random setups without actually knowing what you're talking about.
If you want MAX regen/sec then you do NOT want 6 extenders (not to mention you couldn't fit them and any sort of decent weapons). Extenders suffer from diminishing returns because they provide a static amount of shields, thus the first one may provide a 50% bonus, the second will provide maybe 30% the third 18% the forth 10%, etc... (those numbers are not accurate they are just an example).
The drake does best with at most 3 extenders (I believe 3 is the magic number) and then shield rechargers afterwards. If the amount of shields you're adding divided by the total shields you have is less than a 15% increase than the recharger is better.
But again, even with 3/3 and 3 SPR in low it is not a "good" setup. A real setup will have to include either Invulns or Hardeners and probably a PDS so you can fit 2 or 3 extenders.
This is the best setup (if you have the skills to fit it):
Hi: 7 Heavy Missile Launchers, 1 Tractor Mid: 3 Large Shield Extender II, 1 Shield Recharger II, 2 Invuln II Low: 1 SPR, 1 PDS II, 2 BCS II
That is not a guess either, I've done the hard math and it will out-tank (averaging the tanking dps across all 4 resists) any other drake setup (assuming you want 2 BCS which you should) while also out-damaging any other setup up to 60+ km. Check my sig to see the optimal tanks for lots of different caldari ships.
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Liquid Vision
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:51:00 -
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Buy my Core Defence Shield Purger which is on auction in The Citadel!
20% recharge to shield rates. Give me my damn picture already! |
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