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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.08.30 21:17:47 -
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Since CCP Karkur just posted the original thread during the AT stream, I thought it was best to start a new thread that includes much more information than just my original article.
What is Broadcast For Reps (sometimes referred to as Broadcast 4 Reps)?
It is a reminder to all those that have thoughts of suicide or hurting themselves that we, as your community, want you to reach out and get help. There are many resources that players have created or provided that you can use, including an in-game chat channel (join the channel "Broadcast For Reps"). You can pop in this channel and talk to the room, or even ask for someone to chat with 1 on 1. There are moderators in every timezone, and there is almost always someone willing to listen. None of us are professionals (though some may have training). We are simply fellow players who are willing to listen and talk should you reach out.
I don't think I'm suicidal - can I still talk in that channel?
Oh god, yes. Life isn't always easy, and having someone to just vent to can help. Whether you are depressed, anxious, frustrated - whatever has you feeling alone or subjugated - your fellow players are here to listen.
Can I help?
I recommend reading over this great guide for giving help over on the r/EVE wiki. Once you've looked that over, please feel free to keep the "Broadcast For Reps" channel open and chat with your fellow players. Remember, at the end of the day, sometimes what we really need is just someone to talk to that will listen. Those that are dealing with problems know there is not always a solution to be found in a random internet person - but it does help to get it off our chests.
Where can I find more information to help myself/others?
- Broadcast For Reps - info on The Coffee Rocks website -- crap, i messed up something on that page, will address it and re-link
- Broadcast 4 Reps - r/EVE wiki
- "Broadcast For Reps" - in game channel
- #BroadcastForReps - #Broadcast4Reps - tags used on Twitter and Facebook.
- The Best of Us - Support for Military and Veterans in the EVE community. Highly recommended for us veterans.
Thanks everyone, and remember:
We talk a lot of crap to each other. We gank you. You pod us. We blob you. You take our Sov. We post losses on the forums and subreddits and laugh at each other and go off in local chat.
That's all in the context of playing the video game. The trolling ends when you Broadcast For Reps. Carebear or ganker; Sov Lord or wormholer; LS pirate or HS roleplayer; brave newbie or bitter veteran - We are all part of the same community, and it is as awesome and diverse as it is because you are part of it. And we are here for you in your time of need just as you would be there for us in ours.
o7
http://www.thecoffeerocks.com
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.30 21:32:43 -
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Told this guy to poke you .
Also worth mentioning is this site/community/thingy set up by a mate of mine.
Glad to see this still active.
o7
Better the Devil you know.
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Xylem Viliana
Protomonolithic
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Posted - 2015.08.30 22:28:09 -
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Good to know this is still running, props to all the people that help out there still.
And to anyone uncertain about it or uncomfortable. This is about the one place you can go to talk and not be targeted or greifed over it, EvE is a harsh place but this channel goes against the grain. It is there to help people, if you think you may need help, chances are you do, so stop by. Im not saying it will fix everything, but having a little talk and some support can have more worth in difficult times.
o7 and keep up the good work, I may stop by again sometime and try to help again. |
Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
346
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Posted - 2015.08.30 22:28:23 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Told this guy to poke you . Also worth mentioning is this site/community/thingy set up by a mate of mine. Glad to see this still active. o7
Awesome! I'll add his FB site here and give him a jab. Thanks!
http://www.thecoffeerocks.com
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.30 23:33:13 -
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Amazing initiative that just shows how great our little community really is. I hope many people find at least some of the help they need in this.
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Laskin Veldstar
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 00:16:30 -
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Have I ever mentioned how much I love our community? Thanks Broadcast for Reps. |
d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
228
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Posted - 2015.08.31 00:24:21 -
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Great!
Been around since the beginning.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.08.31 00:25:08 -
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I think this is a great service to the community. Keep up the fantastic work guys.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Xylem Viliana
Protomonolithic
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Posted - 2015.08.31 09:01:15 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:I think this is a great service to the community. Keep up the fantastic work guys.
Normally id post something trolling here about you not locking it but I just cant seem to do it this time, glad you ISD folk also appreciate this initiative
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2015.08.31 09:29:09 -
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<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3
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Bellatrix Invicta
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2015.09.03 14:45:39 -
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Thank you so much for this. There are a lot of us out there who just need someone to talk to.
<3
If you think you've won, think again.
The CODE always wins.
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
366
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Posted - 2015.09.03 21:00:53 -
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Bellatrix Invicta wrote:Thank you so much for this. There are a lot of us out there who just need someone to talk to.
<3
If you dig down in that original reddit thread that sparked the idea, you'll notice I admitted my own past difficulties. My directors (i was CEO at the time) were keen enough to notice something was wrong and chatted with me. I didn't admit it then, but I'll admit now just how much that helped being able to just unload all the garbage off my chest and having someone to talk it through with until things got better in my life (I was in a dark place at the time, but it was temporary). I'm so thankful I have awesome corpies.
In other words, sometimes those that are helping in that channel are the very people who know why the channel is needed.
If I'm online and see you in the channel, I'll be sure to give a little o/
http://www.thecoffeerocks.com
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
360
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Posted - 2015.09.04 16:24:20 -
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Coffee Rocks wrote:.... are the very people who know why the channel is needed. I will be checking your channel soon, I might be able to help out occasionally.
For the precisely quoted reason.
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format.
Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Kwisatz' Haderach
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2015.09.07 00:58:07 -
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Rote lost a mate last year to the demon that is depression, so this hits home. I personally deal with being bi-polar and can relate all too well. I've joined the in-game channel and will see you cats there. While I may happily harvest your tears in pixel-land, I'll gladly listen if anyone needs an ear and/or shoulder due to the weights of RL. Much love and respect for doing this guys. o7 |
Lelira Cirim
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
228
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Posted - 2015.09.14 02:15:04 -
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Thanks ATXIII Finals for (finally) leading me here. I look forward to chillin' with the channel gang on a couple of my toons. The best shoulders are empathetic ones.
Do not actively tank my patience. || EVE University Wiki Team
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CCP Antiquarian
C C P C C P Alliance
164
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Posted - 2015.09.17 20:32:00 -
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All of this.
"Singularity pilots are helpful pilots."
@CCP_Antiquarian - for immediate fulfillment of your archaic social media needs.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium.
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Posted - 2015.09.18 02:52:37 -
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Major props to you for this initiative.
Remember - we might be total and utter assholes in-game, but that competitive animosity *stays* in-game. Just because I gank your hauler and infiltrate and steal from your corp doesn't mean I wouldn't buy you a beer IRL.
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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lord xavier
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
86
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Posted - 2015.09.18 05:59:54 -
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+1
I love seeing information like this in a community! I'll come check out the ingame channel when I am back home and can log on! |
Morgan Johnstone
New Eden Accessibility Bureau
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Posted - 2015.09.18 07:36:40 -
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Broadcast4Reps is AWESOME!
I haven't spoken much, but I know y'all help people!
<3 +1
Morgan Johnstone
New Eden Accessibility Bureau
New Eden Hosting
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Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
690
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Posted - 2015.09.21 05:52:18 -
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Knowing how extreme our EVE activities can extend to our real lives, this needs some no-metagaming rules to work and keep everyone safe.
For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
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Kyoko Sakoda
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
272
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Posted - 2015.10.04 22:53:29 -
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This is the Eve community I know. <3333 |
Trajan Unknown
Rifterlings Zero.Four Ops
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Posted - 2015.10.05 21:28:37 -
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This community is really awesome! You have the "ingame part" where people are acting in every possible way and sometimes you really think it-¦s unbearable but outside of space, so to say, the community is there and it-¦s simply amazing what this small community, small compared to other big gaming communities, is able to achieve in so many different areas.
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Squids
391
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Posted - 2015.10.06 22:19:51 -
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Amyclas Amatin wrote:Knowing how extreme our EVE activities can extend to our real lives, this needs some no-metagaming rules to work and keep everyone safe.
That was a concern early on, but we've had very, very little trouble from trolling or meta-bs in the 1+ years of its life. Considering that channel has moderators from just about every bloc in the game - from Brave to Jita gankers, HS Carebears to PL, Goons to Provi - the message of the channel appears to stay constant. Neutral ground for each of us to reach each other and step out of that meta.
That said, of course it's always in the back of my mind. But, I figure if someone wants to elaborately troll me in that channel in order to waste 2 hours of my evening, oh well. It's not going to give me pause, nor am I going to be suspicious of your intentions. That's not what this channel is for.
If you come to that channel looking to chat, or vent, or for help, you will have friendly ears and willing friends. Hands down.
http://www.thecoffeerocks.com
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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lilol' me
Retribution Holdings Corp Retribution.
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Posted - 2015.10.27 12:57:03 -
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I am actually appalled and disgusted at this video. CCP promotes bullying, and quite frankly nasty behaviour, many players in eve are all about making peoples lives a misery, and your so called community thinks this is cool and funny, especially when people get emotionally upset. All you lot say is HTFU or this is eve etc etc. Eve community is a collection of probably the worse type of people in gaming, sorry it is.
Im shocked that people like Elise Randolph are even on this video, when in fact as one of the leader of PL, which is probably the worst place for treating people like utter sh*t, and bullying people.
You as a community as the people that cause distress, hurt and more to these gamers, and you come out with a video like this (cringeworthy) as it is. CCP are bad enough for promoting this behaviour because for some reason its cool! its not cool at all.
How do you know how many people you have emotionally affected, how do you know that they haven't committed suicide? You only know of people who are known in the game, but what about all those people you have scammed, or bullied ingame, that are unknowns? What may have happened to them... There is no great community in eve its just full of people that want to inflict as much crap on someone as they can.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves especially CCP for promoting such behaviour, it makes me sick, especially the people in this video because your the ones causing the problems!!!. rant over..! |
Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Squids
405
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Posted - 2015.10.28 00:45:40 -
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lilol' me wrote:I am actually appalled and disgusted at this video. etc etc
I pride myself with the title "carebear". I choose not to scam, bully, or grief anyone in the games I play - including EVE. It's why I choose to be in Brave, so I can help newbies and have a place free from racism, sexism and the like.
I'm still human, and will roll my eyes when someone is a bit... over the top... or appears misinformed. Much like your post here (if you'll allow me a moment to be honest).
Are there bad people in EVE? You bet. But, I've seen just as nasty ones in any other MMO. However, some of the best and nicest people I've ever met are in EVE Online. Sindel Pellion, who graciously agreed to be in the video, is a perfect example. She's the exact opposite of everything you just described - in game and out of game.
Yes, Elise is a figurehead in PL. And PL are known to have a few rotten apples in the bunch that go overboard on trolling and griefing. I can assure you that Elise is not one of those. He still plays a game just like any other gamer, and will laugh after blowing up a ship and cheer when he gets a win. But, he'll also go out of his way to try and help anyone willing to take his sincere advice. It's also why he agreed to help with this video.
CCP gave us a sandbox. We are the ones that fill that sandbox with content we create. If a few horrible people get in, CCP is not at fault. They've proven time and again that there are lines that one does not cross when interacting with each other, and that actions have consequences. They also try to balance that intervention with allowing a wide range of behavior in order to provide for us a world as close to a "real" dystopian, science fiction universe as we could ever hope to have. I can't imagine the mind-boggling struggle it is to provide both a wonderfully unique game, and the safety of their players. The fact that, as far as I know, the first mental health and suicide prevention community born from and within a video game was not only given the mechanics to flourish, but was actually encouraged due to the help it provides us all, is ground breaking in gaming. I have never known another game company to stand alongside it's players with the message "We love you, and are here for you."
I truly am saddened that this is the EVE you've seen as it's just not what I see and enjoy every time I log in. That said, I'm not ashamed -- far from it, I'm damn proud to call myself a capsuleer. And I'm extremely proud to have shared my screen with the people in the video.
I hope you find something that caters to your unique view of social gaming. Sincerely. Regardless where you end up, we'll still be here should you need a friendly ear or if you need to find resources for mental health care. I promise that.
Fly Safe, Coffee Rocks 7o
You never fly alone - Broadcast 4 Reps |
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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lilol' me
Retribution Holdings Corp Retribution.
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Posted - 2015.10.28 08:24:56 -
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Coffee Rocks wrote:lilol' me wrote:I am actually appalled and disgusted at this video. etc etc I pride myself with the title "carebear". I choose not to scam, bully, or grief anyone in the games I play - including EVE. It's why I choose to be in Brave, so I can help newbies and have a place free from racism, sexism and the like. I'm still human, and will roll my eyes when someone is a bit... over the top... or appears misinformed. Much like your post here (if you'll allow me a moment to be honest). Are there bad people in EVE? You bet. But, I've seen just as nasty ones in any other MMO. However, some of the best and nicest people I've ever met are in EVE Online. Sindel Pellion, who graciously agreed to be in the video, is a perfect example. She's the exact opposite of everything you just described - in game and out of game. Yes, Elise is a figurehead in PL. And PL are known to have a few rotten apples in the bunch that go overboard on trolling and griefing. I can assure you that Elise is not one of those. He still plays a game just like any other gamer, and will laugh after blowing up a ship and cheer when he gets a win. But, he'll also go out of his way to try and help anyone willing to take his sincere advice. It's also why he agreed to help with this video. CCP gave us a sandbox. We are the ones that fill that sandbox with content we create. If a few horrible people get in, CCP is not at fault. They've proven time and again that there are lines that one does not cross when interacting with each other, and that actions have consequences. They also try to balance that intervention with allowing a wide range of behavior in order to provide for us a world as close to a "real" dystopian, science fiction universe as we could ever hope to have. I can't imagine the mind-boggling struggle it is to provide both a wonderfully unique game, and the safety of their players. The fact that, as far as I know, the first mental health and suicide prevention community born from and within a video game was not only given the mechanics to flourish, but was actually encouraged due to the help it provides us all, is ground breaking in gaming. I have never known another game company to stand alongside it's players with the message "We love you, and are here for you." I truly am saddened that this is the EVE you've seen as it's just not what I see and enjoy every time I log in. That said, I'm not ashamed -- far from it, I'm damn proud to call myself a capsuleer. And I'm extremely proud to have shared my screen with the people in the video. I hope you find something that caters to your unique view of social gaming. Sincerely. Regardless where you end up, we'll still be here should you need a friendly ear or if you need to find resources for mental health care. I promise that. Fly Safe, Coffee Rocks 7o
I think firstly I have played this game far far longer than yourself, only playing the game for a year and well not been in the major corps or alliances where this stuff happens (for example in PL) but also seen the history of how eve is, doesnt really give you the insight or knowledge to really respond. However I am actualy glad you havent seen this, because youre still here and thats what we need more people staying the game.
Again youre a carebear as you say, you havent even begun to get involved in this type of stuff. Im sorry but Elise is one of those, and has been, he as a leader of PL have and do act this way, its ingrained in every single PL player. Sorry but i have been in PL i have been in many of those alliances. Actually unless youre that way inclined you simply dont get into PL. So no its not a few rotten apples at all.
Elise maybe a nice guy outside of game but thats completely irrelevant inside of game, where you react with RL life players and what you do and say to them in game still has a profund effect on them in RL. So no im sorry that is not acceptable excuse. Dont make decisions on something you have completely no idea or experience of or about.
and stop with the sandbox BS im sick of hearing this sandbox for an excuse for peoples terrible behavior in this game. It no excuse. and yes CCP is at fault because they openly encourage that behaviour because they market eve in a way that says scamming etc is good and you should be bad more than you should be good. So no i don't agree. Saccming for example has gone to extremes where people will openly steal from another person. Its not a corp heist or something cool its blant stealing. For them its fun but what about the person on the other end whose probably worked hard for that ISK and its suddenly gone and then even worse he gets laughed at. Way to go on keeping players!
eve is like an open market for the criminal activity and bad behaviour.
These people in this video are the people that cause the distress to the people in eve and are guilty and how dare they stand up in the video and try to excuse their behaviour its disgusting. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25544
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Posted - 2015.10.28 11:17:54 -
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lilol' me wrote:These people in this video are the people that cause the distress to the people in eve and are guilty and how dare they stand up in the video and try to excuse their behaviour its disgusting. What's disgusting is your dismissal of this initiative to provide players, who are in need of someone to talk to, with support, simply because some of the people who are promoting it play the bad guy in an unscripted universe.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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lilol' me
Retribution Holdings Corp Retribution.
55
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Posted - 2015.10.28 11:26:58 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:lilol' me wrote:These people in this video are the people that cause the distress to the people in eve and are guilty and how dare they stand up in the video and try to excuse their behaviour its disgusting. What's disgusting is your dismissal of this initiative to provide players, who are in need of someone to talk to, with support, simply because some of the people who are promoting it play the bad guy in an unscripted universe. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Are you having a joke with that statement. Its like a murderer doing a video saying dont murder people. How dare you even defend this.. people who defend it are just as bad as the people doing it. Therefore that is you and explains everything that is wrong with thoa community and you dont like it because i.have the balls to call it out. Its people like you that troll people to a point into submission so they dont have a voice. Sorry wont happen here.. |
Kia Corallis
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
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Posted - 2015.10.29 10:13:16 -
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Maybe someone needs to back off attacking someone who is giving their support to this.
Admittedly I have no idea what Elise is like in game but on the other hand he has given his support to this so well done for that.
I am one of those people who have seen and done things that I wish I hadn't, I have been shot at and shelled, I have held a mans head together, shoveled up and picked up by hand, parts of human corpses.
I now use a wheelchair and have a daily struggle to control my emotions, my mood swings can be worse than a woman who doesn't get her own way.
EVE helped me cope when I was medically discharged by giving me an escape from the pressure of real life, I was that mining/mission running carebear.
I won't speak to so called 'Professionals' as the simply have no idea what I have gone through, Veterans do, they are capable of empathizing.
I like to be a good guy in space, I don't smacktalk or use profanities, I give isk to 'new' players, I have however occasionally shot people in the face, does that make me a bad guy ?
I now life in my own home with my family in a nice area, The majority of my neighbors are Military or Veterans with various problems or disabilities, we have a nice community to help each other.
I fully endorse this service and if I start actively playing again I may pop into the channel for a chat.
Thank You for starting and promoting this service.
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Mag's
the united
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Posted - 2015.10.29 10:21:10 -
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lilol' me wrote:Its like a murderer doing a video saying dont murder people. Wait, did you just compare people playing a video game, to murderers? I think you need to step back, take a break and have a word with yourself.
To the OP. Great initiative guys. <3
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Kwisatz' Haderach
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
10
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Posted - 2015.10.29 10:27:51 -
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lilol' me, I'm sorry you're unable to see the forest through the trees. I understand the point you're trying to make, but don't agree with most of your conclusions. I also feel you're detracting from what is, at its core, a brave (no pun intended) and admirable undertaking. When it comes right down to it, your opinions about the game and its players are irrelevant here. The fact is, this project, even if it saves just one person from crisis, is more important. Starting a new thread about how you feel would probably be the best idea, so as not to take away from what could be a lifeline for someone. I'd love to have a heated debate about the points you make, but this is not the place.
You seem to be very concerned about how people treat each other. Take a step back as Mag's suggested and you may see that you're acting like one of the people you're railing against. |
Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
1864
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Posted - 2015.10.29 10:41:49 -
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lilol' me wrote: and stop with the sandbox BS im sick of hearing this sandbox for an excuse for peoples terrible behavior in this game. It no excuse. and yes CCP is at fault because they openly encourage that behaviour because they market eve in a way that says scamming etc is good and you should be bad more than you should be good. So no i don't agree. Saccming for example has gone to extremes where people will openly steal from another person. Its not a corp heist or something cool its blant stealing. For them its fun but what about the person on the other end whose probably worked hard for that ISK and its suddenly gone and then even worse he gets laughed at. Way to go on keeping players!
eve is like an open market for the criminal activity and bad behaviour.
These people in this video are the people that cause the distress to the people in eve and are guilty and how dare they stand up in the video and try to excuse their behaviour its disgusting.
Your ranting about the sandbox, complete with its villains and indended criminal behaviour is not especially productive. This is how Eve was originally designed, built and is continuing to be developed and how it has been for over 12 years. If you do not wish to be part of such a unique game/experiment, then you should take a step back and consider whether being part of this universe you seem to detest so much is the best use of your time. You are detracting from a serious real-life issue with your continued railing about how Eve is not the game you want it to be.
Eve is just a video game. Suicide has real and permanent consequences for living people and their friends and families, unlike say if I explode your space pixels or scam some imaginary currency from your wallet. I applaud Coffee Rocks and everyone else involved for not just raising awareness of this issue, but putting in place mechanisms where the real people behind the keyboards can reach out for help.
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cpu939
Eternal Darkness. Blades of Grass
93
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Posted - 2015.10.29 13:02:13 -
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i wasn't going to reply it has taken me over a day just to type this up i'm putting alot of my self in this post.
To the people that are saying this is disgusting the people in the video are bad people IGÇÖm sorry no they are not they are playing apart much like Vin Diesel or Samuel L. Jackson play there parts in a movie.
The members of our community are some of the most supportive out there plex for good charity work and supporting our members.
I know personally that our members will go out of their way to help, I suffer from depression and i self-harm. I have said good bye to my corp mates and alliance mates only to have them spend hours talking me down a few even offered to travel hundreds of mile just to come see me I did refuse them but IGÇÖm still here due to all of them.
I love this game and when IGÇÖm not up to playing it, I love playing with the deck of card (caldari) I got from one of the meeting I went too I hope to get the other 3 races once IGÇÖm up to going to another meeting or 3.
So to the people helping player like me a big thank you, to players like me talk it might help it might not but you wonGÇÖt know unless you try.
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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn
2615
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Posted - 2015.10.29 17:40:23 -
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That video brought tears to my eyes, during the presentation.
I don't talk about RL very much with you guys, nor even with my corp. But, I am a suicide survivor. I was having a really difficult transition period when I first came off of Active Duty. I had just kicked my wife of 9 years out, I was in a new place, was suffering from severe and untreated PTSD, and I was getting the crappy end of the stick from society for being a single dad. I made a nearly-fatal choice one night... thank the gods for a bad primer. Nobody deserves to die like that. Nobody.
I will be joining the channel. I will be there for people when I can. Red, Neut, Blue... I don't care. Just like the players in that video, I will shoot you in the face, in-game, but that does NOT mean I don't care about you, IRL. Just because I'm a villain, doesn't mean I'm a jerk. Don't be a lossmail, IRL.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
[#savethelance]
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
8909
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Posted - 2015.10.29 20:17:54 -
[35] - Quote
cpu939 wrote:To the people that are saying this is disgusting the people in the video are bad people IGÇÖm sorry no they are not they are playing apart much like Vin Diesel or Samuel L. Jackson play there parts in a movie.
I hope you're not suggesting that those unpleasant individuals who act unpleasantly in local are merely actors following a script, rather than being individuals accountable for their actions. If you're simply referring to the video, well, then, ok. :)
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.[/b]
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cpu939
Eternal Darkness. Blades of Grass
99
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Posted - 2015.10.29 22:24:38 -
[36] - Quote
Bumblefck wrote:cpu939 wrote:To the people that are saying this is disgusting the people in the video are bad people IGÇÖm sorry no they are not they are playing apart much like Vin Diesel or Samuel L. Jackson play there parts in a movie.
I hope you're not suggesting that those unpleasant individuals who act unpleasantly in local are merely actors following a script, rather than being individuals accountable for their actions. If you're simply referring to the video, well, then, ok. :)
more of an ad libitum style of acting, i'm basically say these people are not like this in the real world. well some will be but most aren't |
Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Squids
409
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Posted - 2015.10.30 06:25:30 -
[37] - Quote
Kia Corallis wrote: Thank You for starting and promoting this service.
As a fellow veteran, thank you for service. I just wanted to make you aware (if you aren't already) of the in-game channel "Best of Us" (I have them listed on OP), the veteran and active duty military (of all nations) channel. I can't recommend this one enough - I lurk in there as well! Great group, who have actual US VA reps in the channel. Seriously a fun group to hang out with who understand the struggles only veterans will know.
You never fly alone - Broadcast 4 Reps |
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Squids
411
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Posted - 2015.10.30 06:37:38 -
[38] - Quote
cpu939 wrote:i wasn't going to reply it has taken me over a day just to type this up i'm putting alot of my self in this post.
To the people that are saying this is disgusting the people in the video are bad people IGÇÖm sorry no they are not they are playing apart much like Vin Diesel or Samuel L. Jackson play there parts in a movie.
The members of our community are some of the most supportive out there plex for good charity work and supporting our members.
I know personally that our members will go out of their way to help, I suffer from depression and i self-harm. I have said good bye to my corp mates and alliance mates only to have them spend hours talking me down a few even offered to travel hundreds of mile just to come see me I did refuse them but IGÇÖm still here due to all of them.
I love this game and when IGÇÖm not up to playing it, I love playing with the deck of card (caldari) I got from one of the meeting I went too I hope to get the other 3 races once IGÇÖm up to going to another meeting or 3.
So to the people helping player like me a big thank you, to players like me talk it might help it might not but you wonGÇÖt know unless you try.
This guy gets it. I'm so glad your corpies and alliance have had your back in your time of need. Don't be afraid to hit up the channels if they aren't online or you can't reach them, seriously. We love you bud. If you haven't already, I highly recommend reaching out and getting professional help. I have a lot of scars under my tattoos from when I was young, and I've let the black dog catch me, so I'm speaking from a place of understanding. Seeing a GOOD counselor, over an extended period of time so they can get the right medications figured out (which, unfortunately, isn't a quick and easy process), is life changing once you reach the other side.
Until then you have us to lean on. Give your corpmates my thanks for being there for you - they sound like outstanding people.
P.S. I'm jealous. I keep meaning to get the cards, but I never do. I can never bring myself to spend the money, but I know if I don't snag them up someday people will stop selling them :)
7o
You never fly alone - Broadcast 4 Reps |
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Squids
411
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Posted - 2015.10.30 06:51:24 -
[39] - Quote
Jarod Garamonde wrote:That video brought tears to my eyes, during the presentation.
I don't talk about RL very much with you guys, nor even with my corp. But, I am a suicide survivor. I was having a really difficult transition period when I first came off of Active Duty. I had just kicked my wife of 9 years out, I was in a new place, was suffering from severe and untreated PTSD, and I was getting the crappy end of the stick from society for being a single dad. I made a nearly-fatal choice one night... thank the gods for a bad primer. Nobody deserves to die like that. Nobody.
Thank you for sharing, bud. I just said it in another reply, but veterans like you and I have an additional, wonderful channel available called "Best of Us", the veteran and active duty military group. Broadcast 4 Reps works with Best of Us anytime a fellow grunt, sailor or airman (or yes, even jetty jumping Coast Guard like myself) needs a hand. Absolutely awesome group in that channel.
Quote:I will be joining the channel. I will be there for people when I can. Red, Neut, Blue... I don't care. Just like the players in that video, I will shoot you in the face, in-game, but that does NOT mean I don't care about you, IRL. Just because I'm a villain, doesn't mean I'm a jerk.
Exactly. When people contact me saying they want to help, I tell them that I only ask that you leave the space-grudges and space-politics at the door. That channel is about the greater community coming together to help each other in our darkest moments.
I'm rarely surprised in this game, but in this instance, I am humbled at how quickly that mission is accomplished for the good of the fellow player with everyone that joins.
7o
You never fly alone - Broadcast 4 Reps |
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn
2624
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Posted - 2015.10.30 22:59:31 -
[40] - Quote
Coffee Rocks wrote: Exactly. When people contact me saying they want to help, I tell them that I only ask that you leave the space-grudges and space-politics at the door. That channel is about the greater community coming together to help each other in our darkest moments.
I'm rarely surprised in this game, but in this instance, I am humbled at how quickly that mission is accomplished for the good of the fellow player with everyone that joins.
We're playing a video game. A video game about immortal spaceship captains killing eachother for the LOLs because nobody can actually die. It is silly to think that people who are just having fun shooting eachother in meaningless fights are actually terrible people, IRL.
I just got done laughing and cavorting and partying with both allies and enemies, last weekend. Basically, the closest thing I'll ever get to Valhalla. Been in this community since almost the beginning. EVE is just one of my social circles, and I care about everyone who plays the game. Yes, even DNSBlack :p
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
[#savethelance]
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1331
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Posted - 2015.11.02 17:21:54 -
[41] - Quote
I have removed an off-topic irrelevant post.
Quote:27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster.
ISD Decoy
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Kaely Tanniss
Black Hydra Consortium.
501
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Posted - 2015.11.05 00:48:00 -
[42] - Quote
+1
I may play a vindictive b**** and pirate in game, but I am a mother and caring human being with rl issues and dificulties like everyone else. This topic hits home with me through personal experience on a few occasions..one very recently. I'm in the channels if anyone just needs an ear...or if I, myself, need one.
Coffee...if you need any help with anything, let me know.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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JFKen Imperia
Beyond Frontier Brave Collective
23
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Posted - 2015.11.06 18:03:55 -
[43] - Quote
All this Broadcast4Reps project is an excellent initiative, thx a lot to Coffee Rocks and all the volunteer and participants for that
Already in our MOTD btw |
Kaely Tanniss
Black Hydra Consortium.
508
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Posted - 2015.11.07 08:27:38 -
[44] - Quote
lilol' me wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:lilol' me wrote:These people in this video are the people that cause the distress to the people in eve and are guilty and how dare they stand up in the video and try to excuse their behaviour its disgusting. What's disgusting is your dismissal of this initiative to provide players, who are in need of someone to talk to, with support, simply because some of the people who are promoting it play the bad guy in an unscripted universe. You should be ashamed of yourself. Are you having a joke with that statement. Its like a murderer doing a video saying dont murder people. How dare you even defend this.. people who defend it are just as bad as the people doing it. Therefore that is you and explains everything that is wrong with thoa community and you dont like it because i.have the balls to call it out. Its people like you that troll people to a point into submission so they dont have a voice. Sorry wont happen here..
You are talking about actions in a game. A game about conflict, turmoil, and risk. Like with any game, there is a "winner" and a "loser". Some people are poor sports when they lose..and likewise, some are when they win. You cannot, and should not, compare actions in a game to rl. Eve is a fantasy spaceship game where noone truly loses anything but virtual pixels. Rl is something completely different. Sure, some people play the "bad guy"..or the "scum bag"..or the "pirate". I am one of them. But my actions in this game are not a reflection of my rl personality nor what I believe or do in rl. To assume it is for people is just plain wrong. Don't get me wrong..there are always "those ones"..but you are generalizing and your generization is inaccurate. You make the comparison "ts like a murderer doing a video saying dont murder people. How dare you even defend this.. people who defend it are just as bad as the people doing it. Therefore that is you and explains everything that is wrong with thoa community" ...how is that even a relevant comparison? ...There is no murder here. Murder is a rl problem..not a game issue...and noone in this game is a murderer for shooting pixels or talking smack in a game to demoralize an opponant. What is wrong with the community is that so many have a problem differentiating between fantasy and reality..and sepparating rl actions from those in a game..which have zero relevance in any way.
This inititive is a good thing. We are here to help people who need an ear..or a friend. If that doesn't say how people really are, I'm afraid nothing will change your one sided opinion of what you percieve as fact. Nothing personal, but you have it all wrong. If you have a history of finding the "bad seeds"..maybe you should join this initiative and start dealing with a different type of people.
I am actually appaled that you would have the gall to voice such a negative opinion of something so good because you fail to see what things really are and choose to live by what you "see" as fact. If you just want to be a troll..then you are no better than the people you have accused of being the "bad guys". Take the time to search for the truth..you may be pleasantly surprised..IF you are truly willing to put aside your current perceptions and open you mind, eyes, and ears.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Squids
423
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Posted - 2015.11.08 01:02:42 -
[45] - Quote
JFKen Imperia wrote:All this Broadcast4Reps project is an excellent initiative, thx a lot to Coffee Rocks and all the volunteer and participants for that Already in our MOTD btw
FYI, the video now has French, Russian and German subtitles! Just added ze French today! Please, let your corpies know!
7o
You never fly alone - Broadcast 4 Reps |
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1231
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Posted - 2015.11.09 00:23:24 -
[46] - Quote
I'm really glad this thread and this channel exist.
I was somewhat inoculated from hurting myself when my best friend killed himself about 10 years ago. Understanding the hurt that causes really helped me get a grip on things.
I'm not a doctor, and I'm not qualified to help anyone at all. I struggle with depression myself. I am almost certainly not in a position to help anyone.
But I'm willing to listen to anyone at any time.
We don't have to be completely alone with our struggles. We can be better to ourselves together than we tend to be when alone.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
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JFKen Imperia
Beyond Frontier Brave Collective
25
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Posted - 2015.11.09 18:49:14 -
[47] - Quote
Coffee Rocks wrote:JFKen Imperia wrote:All this Broadcast4Reps project is an excellent initiative, thx a lot to Coffee Rocks and all the volunteer and participants for that Already in our MOTD btw FYI, the video now has French, Russian and German subtitles! Just added ze French today! Please, let your corpies know! 7o YT activate FR subtitles by default when launched |
Lelira Cirim
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
252
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Posted - 2015.11.09 22:55:16 -
[48] - Quote
A question, It is often said that a Stuck petition is the best way to report an immediate threat of self-harm, however I don't know how to do this in-game. Logically one might be in game when one's character is stuck (as with other MMOs that allow /stuck), and certainly when seeing someone talking publicly or chatting privately in game.
On the support website it very clearly gives a second category of Stuck, but in-game I only know of the bug report form, which doesn't give Stuck or any choice of any second category.
Basically if this is only an out of game reporting feature, and only ever will be possible out of game going forward, I think that should be crystal clear along with mentions of using the petition for this purpose. :)
One of the things that led me to post this question is the locked Evelopedia page which states: "...then you can make a petition in-game, using the stuck category..." https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Stuck_character Hopefully a GM/ISD can tidy it up.
Do not actively tank my patience.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Snuffed Out
4485
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Posted - 2015.11.10 12:39:50 -
[49] - Quote
I think 'offensive behaviour and harassment' is also a high-priority category.
Are petitions/support tickets no longer in the F12 menu? You mentioned the bug report feature but that's a different thing? |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25682
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Posted - 2015.11.10 13:16:03 -
[50] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:I think 'offensive behaviour and harassment' is also a high-priority category.
Are petitions/support tickets no longer in the F12 menu? You mentioned the bug report feature but that's a different thing? That disappeared earlier this year when CCP switched to Zendesk for their support system, it's certainly not present in the current f12 menu. You can view petitions from the escape menu, but I don't think there's currently a way to raise them from within the client.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7197
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Posted - 2015.11.11 17:37:06 -
[51] - Quote
Today is Veteran's Day in the USA.
It's estimated that over 20 veterans a day commit suicide.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Zimmer Jones
Aliastra Gallente Federation
332
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Posted - 2015.11.13 20:51:56 -
[52] - Quote
The EVE community helped me get over some very tough times, times where nothing was really wrong, but my mind hated/hates me. I received overwhelming support from my corpies, and driven to tears by their kindness. I was not aware of this B4R, and it might not have been there, these troubles started many years ago, and i went without treatment for a very long time just thinking that i should HTFU, Man up, and other overly macho crap.
It is no shame to ask for help, and i see it as no shame to weep with relief or frustration when your own mind is your enemy and your tank is breaking. As soon as I'm no longer homeless I'll be rejoining my corp if they'll have me, and i will certainly be haunting B4R, because even those on crutches can offer a shoulder to lean on.
A culture that does not champion courage, heroes and ice cream does not deserve to survive.
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation
437
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:01:43 -
[53] - Quote
Lelira Cirim wrote:A question, It is often said that a Stuck petition is the best way to report an immediate threat of self-harm, however I don't know how to do this in-game. Logically one might be in game when one's character is stuck (as with other MMOs that allow /stuck), and certainly when seeing someone talking publicly or chatting privately in game. On the support website it very clearly gives a second category of Stuck, but in-game I only know of the bug report form, which doesn't give Stuck or any choice of any second category. Basically if this is only an out of game reporting feature, and only ever will be possible out of game going forward, I think that should be crystal clear along with mentions of using the petition for this purpose. :) One of the things that led me to post this question is the locked Evelopedia page which states: "...then you can make a petition in-game, using the stuck category..." https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Stuck_character Hopefully a GM/ISD can tidy it up.
This is correct. In the event you have a player that any reasonable person knows to be imminent danger of hurting themselves or others, file a ticket with the "Stuck Character" category, with the words "suicidal player" in the heading (or whatever is relative). CCP's system will flag it.
I've passed it up through CSM for something more clear to use and debated it over on the other F&I forum, so we'll see if CCP comes up with a better way. For now, yes, this is the correct procedure.
I'll add it to my ever growing 'to-do' list to do a quick "how to" and throw it up on my site.
You never fly alone - Broadcast 4 Reps |
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation
437
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:03:26 -
[54] - Quote
Zimmer Jones wrote:The EVE community helped me get over some very tough times, times where nothing was really wrong, but my mind hated/hates me. I received overwhelming support from my corpies, and driven to tears by their kindness. I was not aware of this B4R, and it might not have been there, these troubles started many years ago, and i went without treatment for a very long time just thinking that i should HTFU, Man up, and other overly macho crap.
It is no shame to ask for help, and i see it as no shame to weep with relief or frustration when your own mind is your enemy and your tank is breaking. As soon as I'm no longer homeless I'll be rejoining my corp if they'll have me, and i will certainly be haunting B4R, because even those on crutches can offer a shoulder to lean on.
Our best volunteers and moderators started as someone that came to the channel for help. You'll be welcome, friend!
o7
You never fly alone - Broadcast 4 Reps |
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation
437
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:07:03 -
[55] - Quote
Unfortunately, a very jarring statistic that I'm too aware of (comes with the territory). If you're a veteran, reservist or active duty, don't forget there is also the channel "Best of Us" (see OP) created by, and for, military like us.
As more of our brother and sisters return home to find broken promises, we need to carry our battle buddies a little while longer until they can get on their feet and get the help they need. If you need help with VA, want to vent - ANYTHING - those guys at Best of Us are outstanding.
You never fly alone - Broadcast 4 Reps |
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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Daerrol
Death By Design Did he say Jump
255
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Posted - 2015.11.16 04:56:36 -
[56] - Quote
+1 for the people loving enough to help.
+10 brave enough to ask for it. I know all to well how hard that part is. |
Spanky Ikkala
EVE University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2015.11.19 12:45:48 -
[57] - Quote
Kia Corallis wrote:I won't speak to so called 'Professionals' as the simply have no idea what I have gone through, Veterans do, they are capable of empathizing. Kia,
Some of us are veterans AND 'professionals' so if you do come back to EvE there are veteran professionals waiting in Broadcast4Reps and in the Bestofus vet channel to chew the fat with you buddy. Or we can just pod each other. o7 |
Dermeisen
27
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Posted - 2015.12.21 08:41:20 -
[58] - Quote
lilol' me wrote:I am actually appalled and disgusted at this video. CCP promotes bullying, and quite frankly nasty behaviour, many players in eve are all about making peoples lives a misery, and your so called community thinks this is cool and funny, especially when people get emotionally upset. All you lot say is HTFU or this is eve etc etc. Eve community is a collection of probably the worse type of people in gaming, sorry it is.
Im shocked that people like Elise Randolph are even on this video, when in fact as one of the leader of PL, which is probably the worst place for treating people like utter sh*t, and bullying people.
You as a community as the people that cause distress, hurt and more to these gamers, and you come out with a video like this (cringeworthy) as it is. CCP are bad enough for promoting this behaviour because for some reason its cool! its not cool at all.
How do you know how many people you have emotionally affected, how do you know that they haven't committed suicide? You only know of people who are known in the game, but what about all those people you have scammed, or bullied ingame, that are unknowns? What may have happened to them... There is no great community in eve its just full of people that want to inflict as much crap on someone as they can.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves especially CCP for promoting such behaviour, it makes me sick, especially the people in this video because your the ones causing the problems!!!. rant over..!
Eve is a game let's not forget it, it can be a useful simulation, it may help you deal with minor obstacles, even social anxiety or alienation if you let it/us. This is because Eve obstacles are minor ones, really, compared to the RL issues with which we might have to contend: death, divorce, poor health or redundancy. But and this is the kicker, with the support of your corp or the many communities out there available to help you reship, talk or what have you. This video was very moving to me, it reminded me that our community is pretty amazing, of the many of you who have been there for me, the way I hope to be there for you if you ever need me. Thanks
"Not the Boreworms!"
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Bradorski Federov
Sturdy Investments and Loans
25
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Posted - 2015.12.25 07:58:56 -
[59] - Quote
Thank you all so much for helping people out both in our community and in rl. It really does make a huge difference to have a friendly non judgemental ear to just vent to and get things off your chest.
I was going through a really really rough patch the other day, and one of my corpies stayed up all night talking with me. I honestly don't think I would be here right now if he didn't show me that kindness. I can't even put into words how thats feels knowing that a friend who've I've never met in rl would do that for me.
Thank you again and have a safe and merry Christmas! |
Amber Kurvora
235
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Posted - 2016.02.14 18:58:22 -
[60] - Quote
lilol' me wrote:I am actually appalled and disgusted at this video. CCP promotes bullying, and quite frankly nasty behaviour, many players in eve are all about making peoples lives a misery, and your so called community thinks this is cool and funny, especially when people get emotionally upset. All you lot say is HTFU or this is eve etc etc. Eve community is a collection of probably the worse type of people in gaming, sorry it is.
It can seem that way at times, but I've also had moments of kindness that still make me smile to this day. A corp mate who replaced my Domi after I'd screwed up running a mission, or the guy who I struck up a conversation with in the middle of Null and he ended up giving me 500 million ISk because I was down on my Eve-luck. People can be beneficent, but you can't expect that from most people because the whole point of Eve is to PvP. As many a person has mentioned before, you need to find a play style thatt brings you the most fun/joy/happiness, and accept that other people's happy place will result in the occasional loss of a ship.
Personally I've got to deal with my own avoident personality disorder, which can make every jump in low/null a fun ball of anxiety because part of me is going "Oh, god! Gatecamp! Danger! Bad idea! Bad idea!", which is juxtaposed against turning over various exploration sites in order to find the shiny. I have my methods, but even so there's times I need to step away entirely and wait for my emotions not to be so detrimental to my emotional state. |
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise Apocalypse Now.
211
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Posted - 2016.02.17 21:26:43 -
[61] - Quote
This probably isn't the right place to post this, but it is as I see an issue that keeps coming up and bothering me.
I joined the EVE community like 3.5 years ago. First two hours where ****. Could not for the life of me figure out how to fly. Went to bed and tried the game again and have not joined any other MMO since.
What bothers me is this - I have come to love New Eden, even the ball busting *****es who cloaky camp my ratting/mining systems for weeks. Yet, when I and many others go to the F&I to post ideas we have on making the whole of New Eden better, there are a handful of trolls, whom in my opinion, nearly never provide any constructive feedback to the OP of the thread. Instead they choose to rip the OPs thoughts apart and for lack of words **** on the OP. To me, the harshest place in all of New Eden isn't in the game, it is in the Player F&I. I know that not every idea is full proof, it never is (we have Fozzie SOV as a perfect example.). Yet out of all the places I would expect the strictest enforcement of common courtesy in EVE, I witness a hive of hate and hostilities. It seems that I have a continued wish to be **** on by these people and keep going back; yet, I feel I have ideas that need to be presented to CCP. What I fear the most is this. Every time I find s post by a new player or someone lacking in English skills, these trolls role in and destroy any hopeful feelings.
I am making a shout out; not just for myself that wants to see New Eden grow and last another decade, but I am calling for reps on our brothers and sisters who attempt to provide their ideas in a forum polluted by hostile carbon based filth.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
DIDE- is open to new members
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Iain Cariaba
2704
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Posted - 2016.02.25 12:33:57 -
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Amarisen Gream wrote:This probably isn't the right place to post this, but it is as I see an issue that keeps coming up and bothering me.
I joined the EVE community like 3.5 years ago. First two hours where ****. Could not for the life of me figure out how to fly. Went to bed and tried the game again and have not joined any other MMO since.
What bothers me is this - I have come to love New Eden, even the ball busting *****es who cloaky camp my ratting/mining systems for weeks. Yet, when I and many others go to the F&I to post ideas we have on making the whole of New Eden better, there are a handful of trolls, whom in my opinion, nearly never provide any constructive feedback to the OP of the thread. Instead they choose to rip the OPs thoughts apart and for lack of words **** on the OP. To me, the harshest place in all of New Eden isn't in the game, it is in the Player F&I. I know that not every idea is full proof, it never is (we have Fozzie SOV as a perfect example.). Yet out of all the places I would expect the strictest enforcement of common courtesy in EVE, I witness a hive of hate and hostilities. It seems that I have a continued wish to be **** on by these people and keep going back; yet, I feel I have ideas that need to be presented to CCP. What I fear the most is this. Every time I find s post by a new player or someone lacking in English skills, these trolls role in and destroy any hopeful feelings.
I am making a shout out; not just for myself that wants to see New Eden grow and last another decade, but I am calling for reps on our brothers and sisters who attempt to provide their ideas in a forum polluted by hostile carbon based filth. You put the idea out for public consideration. If you cannot handle criticism of your ideas, then perhaps you should keep in mind that not everyone is going to agree with you. Most of us who spend our forum time in F&I have a deep love for the dark abyss that is EvE, and wish it to stay that way.
In a vast majority of cases, those people who get their posts "**** on" would have been better served going a few pages back into the forum history and finding their answers in the last dozen threads identical to theirs. How many times must we be subjected to the same rehashed ideas, vomited out as the greatest thing in the world? Honestly, ISD needs a couple members solely for F&I. Members who, like those of us who spend a large amount of time there, can quickly spot and lock redundant threads. This would reduce a large amount of the trolling.
In the greater portion of remaining instances, the cause is because the idea is contrary to that which is EvE. There are several other games available if someone wants a warm, fuzzy game experience. On the other hand, EvE is the only game of its kind. Personally, I play EvE because what I do actually matters, even if it's only in a miniscule way. I fully realize that I can lose everything I've worked for with a single mistake. In fact, I have done so several times. Some of the greatest vitriol goes to those threads where the OP is trying to get CCP to reduce the risk to their profession rather than take it upon themselves to reduce said risk. Usually, this request for CCP to buff their play style is by asking for nerfs to someone else's play style.
Yes, in most cases I disagree with you. No, I'm not always nice about it. Even with this, I realize you're a fellow human, not a ***** or filth. You decry the way some are treated in F&I, then come here and act the same way. We have a term for people who do that, which I'm sure you're able to find with Google.
Lastly, if you think someone has gone too far, report the post. This is ISD's job, after all.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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Dom Arkaral
Gate Is Red Complaints Department
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Posted - 2016.03.07 17:46:41 -
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I fully support, endorse Broadcast4Reps
If you're not doing well irl, go talk to these folks. They'll find a way to put a smile back on your face.
Which reminds me that I need to hop in and say hi!
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker
I have no Honer (truly)
Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche!
Salt Harvesting Level CCCXV
Save me from myself. #broadcast4reps when you're in need o7
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Alujari Corvus
Tr0pa de elite. Northern Coalition.
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I want to thank Coffee Rocks and everyone else involved in Broadcast4reps for being a support to the capsuleers who need a listening ear and shoulder to lean on. I admire that the Eve community has pulled together to emphasize the importance of being there for one another despite everyone's game play.
This is something very real for me. The past year I took partial leave from Eve to focus on the emotional and mental health of my daughter who suffered from depression, self harm, and suicide. Was a rough time but I can say we both came out of it survivors and with hope for a better tomorrow. I've also battled depression, addictions, and suicidal thoughts over the past 12 yrs so this was a harsh awakening for me to see someone I love suffer through the same nightmare.
The support I got from family, community, and space friends was crucial to my survival during some dark times, for this I am grateful for. It has now become my RL mission to help others, so if I can support this cause in any way.. just let me know. |
Iso47
Shadow State Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2016.03.21 11:46:38 -
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I cried when the video came up as suicide. Cause I struggle everyday with Schizophria and it's really hard to make social connections and feel any pitty, I also have crippling depression from this mental illness.
I was in mental hostipals many times to deal with this disease. My fellow space capsuleer's it is without a doubt the best action that can be taken to prevent suicide is the making of awarness.
Thank you for all the patience and virtue that come's in helping another person.
Iso47 Fly Safe / Live Freely |
Alann Watts
Portland Inner city Goat Herders.
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Posted - 2016.03.30 18:25:43 -
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I have to say something... I ask that if it has not already been done that someone immediately make an api exception too the broadcast4reps channel. Nobody should ever be recorded by their alliance or corp as having been or said anything in that channel. That place must be a safe sacred space. Thank you. |
Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation
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Posted - 2016.04.06 04:47:48 -
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Alujari Corvus wrote:I want to thank Coffee Rocks and everyone else involved in Broadcast4reps for being a support to the capsuleers who need a listening ear and shoulder to lean on. I admire that the Eve community has pulled together to emphasize the importance of being there for one another despite everyone's game play.
This is something very real for me. The past year I took partial leave from Eve to focus on the emotional and mental health of my daughter who suffered from depression, self harm, and suicide. Was a rough time but I can say we both came out of it survivors and with hope for a better tomorrow. I've also battled depression, addictions, and suicidal thoughts over the past 12 yrs so this was a harsh awakening for me to see someone I love suffer through the same nightmare.
The support I got from family, community, and space friends was crucial to my survival during some dark times, for this I am grateful. It has now become my RL mission to help others, so if I can support this cause in any way.. just let me know.
I can't imagine the worries you must have, Alujari. I don't know how old the daughter is, but you are both very welcome to join the Discord channels for B4R (https://discord.gg/0XwsHe8maCdvEPt7) or the parent non-profit Spam 4 Heals (https://discord.gg/0cnYsRRYYg3QtoTM) whenever you need to chat.
I'm currently working with a RL friend who is having a hugely difficult time with her own anxiety and history of abuse, whilst her 10 year old is now having severe troubles with her own depression and self worth.
It sounds like your daughter has a wonderful mom. Keep up the good work! You should PM me on the Discord channel or email me (info on the contact page above) if you are serious about helping. o7
You never fly alone - Broadcast 4 Reps |
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation
477
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Posted - 2016.04.06 04:49:19 -
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Iso47 wrote:I cried when the video came up as suicide. Cause I struggle everyday with Schizophria and it's really hard to make social connections and feel any pitty, I also have crippling depression from this mental illness.
I was in mental hostipals many times to deal with this disease. My fellow space capsuleer's it is without a doubt the best action that can be taken to prevent suicide is the making of awarness.
Thank you for all the patience and virtue that come's in helping another person.
Iso47 Fly Safe / Live Freely
I'm glad you are here to fly with us, friend! Stay strong. o7
You never fly alone - Broadcast 4 Reps |
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation
477
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Posted - 2016.04.06 04:53:26 -
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Alann Watts wrote:I have to say something... I ask that if it has not already been done that someone immediately make an api exception too the broadcast4reps channel. Nobody should ever be recorded by their alliance or corp as having been or said anything in that channel. That place must be a safe sacred space. Thank you.
So far, I have never heard of any corp or alliance ever looking into a member's chat logs in the channels. I would encourage you to submit this suggestion to CCP Karkur's "Little Things" thread.
If anyone is ever worried about in-game shenanigans in the public channel, you can always ask to speak to someone 1v1 or go out of game to our Discord channel.
o7
You never fly alone - Broadcast 4 Reps |
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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eddie valvetino
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
191
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Posted - 2016.05.17 12:14:27 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Amazing initiative that just shows how great our little community really is. I hope many people find at least some of the help they need in this.
+1
I have struggled with depression and a Bi-Polar disorder for years... I even named a corp in "honour" of the condition..
this is an utterly epic idea.
Well worth the sticky and.. well if there is anything I can do to help. It would be my genunine pleasure |
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eddie valvetino
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
191
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Posted - 2016.05.17 12:16:01 -
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Iso47 wrote:I cried when the video came up as suicide. Cause I struggle everyday with Schizophria and it's really hard to make social connections and feel any pitty, I also have crippling depression from this mental illness.
I was in mental hostipals many times to deal with this disease. My fellow space capsuleer's it is without a doubt the best action that can be taken to prevent suicide is the making of awarness.
Thank you for all the patience and virtue that come's in helping another person.
Iso47 Fly Safe / Live Freely
Know this buddy
you are not alone |
Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation
484
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Posted - 2016.05.26 14:51:31 -
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eddie valvetino wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Amazing initiative that just shows how great our little community really is. I hope many people find at least some of the help they need in this. +1 I have struggled with depression and a Bi-Polar disorder for years... I even named a corp in "honour" of the condition.. this is an utterly epic idea. Well worth the sticky and.. well if there is anything I can do to help. It would be my genunine pleasure
I appreciate the support and for sharing your struggles! When more people like ourselves open up and talk about mental illness, depression, and suicide we help strip more of the stigma away and make it easier for our brothers and sisters to come forward when they need help.
We exist because of the passion of our volunteers, and I'm never not amazed by how much our gaming community, the vast majority being EVE players, give their time and headspace to helping out. And everyone helps out in different ways depending on their time available, talents, and drive. The most obvious is hanging out in the ingame channel "Broadcast4Reps" and in our Discord server ( https://discord.gg/0cnYsRRYYg3QtoTM ), and just chatting with fellow players.
Naturally, some capsuleers come up with unique ideas for spreading awareness, raising RL money towards our nonprofit or other charities such as Care 4 Kids or PLEX 4 Good, or even want to lend their RL talents to managing B4R and Spam 4 Heals (the RL nonprofit that umbrellas the B4R program these days). If you or anyone reading this is interested or has an idea they wish to pitch, put a rough outline together of what you wanna do and send it to [email protected]. o7
You never fly alone - Broadcast 4 Reps |
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise Apocalypse Now.
270
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Posted - 2016.06.23 13:51:22 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Amarisen Gream wrote:This probably isn't the right place to post this, but it is as I see an issue that keeps coming up and bothering me.
I joined the EVE community like 3.5 years ago. First two hours where ****. Could not for the life of me figure out how to fly. Went to bed and tried the game again and have not joined any other MMO since.
What bothers me is this - I have come to love New Eden, even the ball busting *****es who cloaky camp my ratting/mining systems for weeks. Yet, when I and many others go to the F&I to post ideas we have on making the whole of New Eden better, there are a handful of trolls, whom in my opinion, nearly never provide any constructive feedback to the OP of the thread. Instead they choose to rip the OPs thoughts apart and for lack of words **** on the OP. To me, the harshest place in all of New Eden isn't in the game, it is in the Player F&I. I know that not every idea is full proof, it never is (we have Fozzie SOV as a perfect example.). Yet out of all the places I would expect the strictest enforcement of common courtesy in EVE, I witness a hive of hate and hostilities. It seems that I have a continued wish to be **** on by these people and keep going back; yet, I feel I have ideas that need to be presented to CCP. What I fear the most is this. Every time I find s post by a new player or someone lacking in English skills, these trolls role in and destroy any hopeful feelings.
I am making a shout out; not just for myself that wants to see New Eden grow and last another decade, but I am calling for reps on our brothers and sisters who attempt to provide their ideas in a forum polluted by hostile carbon based filth. You put the idea out for public consideration. If you cannot handle criticism of your ideas, then perhaps you should keep in mind that not everyone is going to agree with you. Most of us who spend our forum time in F&I have a deep love for the dark abyss that is EvE, and wish it to stay that way. In a vast majority of cases, those people who get their posts "**** on" would have been better served going a few pages back into the forum history and finding their answers in the last dozen threads identical to theirs. How many times must we be subjected to the same rehashed ideas, vomited out as the greatest thing in the world? Honestly, ISD needs a couple members solely for F&I. Members who, like those of us who spend a large amount of time there, can quickly spot and lock redundant threads. This would reduce a large amount of the trolling. In the greater portion of remaining instances, the cause is because the idea is contrary to that which is EvE. There are several other games available if someone wants a warm, fuzzy game experience. On the other hand, EvE is the only game of its kind. Personally, I play EvE because what I do actually matters, even if it's only in a miniscule way. I fully realize that I can lose everything I've worked for with a single mistake. In fact, I have done so several times. Some of the greatest vitriol goes to those threads where the OP is trying to get CCP to reduce the risk to their profession rather than take it upon themselves to reduce said risk. Usually, this request for CCP to buff their play style is by asking for nerfs to someone else's play style. Yes, in most cases I disagree with you. No, I'm not always nice about it. Even with this, I realize you're a fellow human, not a ***** or filth. You decry the way some are treated in F&I, then come here and act the same way. We have a term for people who do that, which I'm sure you're able to find with Google. Lastly, if you think someone has gone too far, report the post. This is ISD's job, after all.
Iain! I've even made post about ideas to clean up the F&I. so there isn't as much redundant and vomited up ideas. Those seem to have fallen on deaf ears. I would love to see the forums get overhaul and when ppl are making a post, they have to tag key-words. and if their keywords match up. and moves them into a "discussion thread for that idea"
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All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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