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Gabriel Karade
Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.12.17 23:35:00 -
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Enjoy it while you can, because everyone knows a 5km/sec BS breaks the combat engine, and is probably the type setup being referred to by the Devs as one of the 'high speed setups' putting too much strain on the server... ----------
War-Machine
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2006.12.17 23:49:00 -
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humm... and there i thought one of the phoons advantages was its relatively tiny signature... but then again.. if an MWD is involved, the full monty doesn't change too much :o
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Spikeman
Minmatar Karma Control
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Posted - 2006.12.27 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Liam Fremen Edited by: Liam Fremen on 09/12/2006 11:12:02 Cruise One: 4x Cruise missile Launcher 4x Heavy Nosferatu 1x Heavy Electrochemical Cap Booster + 800's charge 1x 100MN MWD T2/Faction/Named 1x 20km Warp Disruptor 1x Tracking Disruptor/Sensor Booster/Sensor Dampener/20km Disruptor 7x Inertial Stabilizer (best you can afford)
im aprox 400 PG short on tht fit...how did u fit it? _____________________
Originally by: Spikeman well tht didnt work out as planned
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Raste
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.27 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Raste on 27/12/2006 20:49:01 These (istabs) are going to get nerfed if someone doesn't start posting some imba iStab setups for Caldari and Gallente.
===This is a sig=== "no matter where you are or what you're doing, you know that down in the southeast, LV and RA are trying to stab each other in the face." -- Cadiz ==============
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Butter Dog
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.27 21:18:00 -
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I hate to break the party but inertial stabalisers don't increase your speed.
------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
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Elaron
Minmatar Legio Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.27 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog I hate to break the party but inertial stabalisers don't increase your speed.
Not when just trundling along, true.
Light up a MWD though, and you'll see the advantage they give.
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Kldraina
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Posted - 2006.12.27 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Harlequinn Edited by: Harlequinn on 15/12/2006 22:09:57 Doesn't the stacking penalty apply to any bonus that affects the same attribute, not just the stacking of the same item?
Given that: Istab= +% to sig, -% to inertia, and -% to mass Nanostructure= + to speed, -% to inertia, -% structure hp
Don't the inertia multipliers of the Istabs suffer penalties stacking with those of the nanostructures?
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
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Posted - 2006.12.27 22:39:00 -
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Edited by: Shan''Talasha Mea''Questa on 27/12/2006 22:40:50
Originally by: Ka'kelam Could someone explain this to me? iStabs havn't affected the speed of my phoon at all. It warps faster,it turns faster, but it dosn't *move* faster. The only thing giving it a speed boost in the low slots were either nanofibers or overdrive injectors. Am i doing something wrong here? Could someone please explain to me how exactly these iStabs are supposed to make the phoon go faster (i know, decrease mass), and why it's not happening to mine?
With a 100mm mwd, 4 iStabs and 3 overdrive injectors i was only at 2555m/s. That speed didn't change if i took off the iStabs, it just took me longer to get to max speed.
Inertial Stabilizers affect ship mass, and therefore the thrust from Afterburners and Microwarp Drives.
Why it hasn't worked in your case... check under different situations, maybe fit a Quad-LIF and see if that matters. Otherwise ask a GM.
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Butter Dog
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.27 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Elaron
Originally by: Butter Dog I hate to break the party but inertial stabalisers don't increase your speed.
Not when just trundling along, true.
Light up a MWD though, and you'll see the advantage they give.
Inertial Stabs do not increase your maximum speed.
They do, however, allow you to reach your maximum speed faster.
------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
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Garrick Amorr
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.27 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Borasao Sounds like something a thug Mr. T would say...
IstabbaPhoon!
ROFLMAO!!
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Gryphin Rambaldi
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.28 00:03:00 -
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Edited by: Gryphin Rambaldi on 28/12/2006 00:05:06
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Elaron
Originally by: Butter Dog I hate to break the party but inertial stabalisers don't increase your speed.
Not when just trundling along, true.
Light up a MWD though, and you'll see the advantage they give.
Inertial Stabs do not increase your maximum speed.
They do, however, allow you to reach your maximum speed faster.
and, in the case of an orbiting nanophoon, let you maintain a higher speed while orbiting due to less mass, less inertia. notice how a nanophoon running it's MWD and orbiting at 18km only runs at about 80% of it's top speed from having to slow down to turn? You'll get a higher orbit speed out of them, effectively giving you a speed boost. Your flat out straight speed runs won't increase, you'll just accelerate to top speed faster, and might get a slight speed increase based on your mass reduction, depending on just where the Thrust of the MWD and the Mass of your ship balance out. But the Phoon already has the lowest mass of the BS's, IIRC, so it won't be too much of a difference.
In the end, it will come down to a mix of Nanos and IStabs to fine tune the top possible speed. It's not something you can rig up in QuickFit and look at, you have to go start swapping slots out, and go test orbit things.
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Marcathonas
The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.28 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Elaron
Originally by: Butter Dog I hate to break the party but inertial stabalisers don't increase your speed.
Not when just trundling along, true.
Light up a MWD though, and you'll see the advantage they give.
Inertial Stabs do not increase your maximum speed.
They do, however, allow you to reach your maximum speed faster.
Completely wrong. Go put them on and use a MWD. Since they aren't as % based as they claim, they're affected by mass.
Or, cheaper, try it on a stabber. With my appalling skills, 2 nanos and an overdrive = 2600m/s. 2 istabs and an overdrive = 3k/s.
They are adding speed, and that's a proven fact. Less mass = more agility = more speed.
Also, with rigs, istabs, faction mwd and possibly boosters, I've seen a phoon hit almost 9k.
Try catching that.
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Evengard
Solar Dragons Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.28 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Marcathonas
Also, with rigs, istabs, faction mwd and possibly boosters, I've seen a phoon hit almost 9k.
Try catching that.
Yes, combined with nosfs and cap boosters these ships can fly few minutes on MWD and can drain cap from any lesser size ship trying to catch him.
The problem is that iStabs don't have any penalties, not staking nor fitting. With 6-7-8 low slot on battleships vs 3-4 in inty this getting you absolutly without chances ___________________ Recon and Intercept |
cy4n1d3
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Posted - 2006.12.28 12:27:00 -
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This setup isn't that good. I've killed several of them. Don't waste your time.
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Alowishus
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.13 17:25:00 -
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My twist:
4x Arb Cruise 4x Diminishing Nos
1x Quad LiF 1x Faint Disruptor 2x Sensor Damp II
2x BCU II 2x Local Hull Inertial Stabs 3x Local Hull Nanos
If you orbit at about 16km most BS won't be able to lock you with the damps. Had fun on the test server with it but it took a long time to kill people, I assume this is an issue with any NosPhoon setup.
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Sathrai
No Quarter. C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.02.13 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Elaron
Originally by: Butter Dog I hate to break the party but inertial stabalisers don't increase your speed.
Not when just trundling along, true.
Light up a MWD though, and you'll see the advantage they give.
Inertial Stabs do not increase your maximum speed.
They do, however, allow you to reach your maximum speed faster.
The lower your ship mass, the more benefit you get from propulsion modules. Inertial stabilizers lower your ship mass. Put two and two together, and you will see that inertial stabilizers make you get more out of your AB/MWD, which translates directly to improved maximum speed.
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.13 18:10:00 -
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Enjoy it while it lasts...
Bhwahahahaaaa!
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.02.13 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: welsh wizard Enjoy it while it lasts...
Bhwahahahaaaa!
/me enjoys! ----------------------------
Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY
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Bardi MecAuldnis
Amarr Pirates of Destruction Union Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.13 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Vardemis
Originally by: TerrorWOLF Why call them stabs?? People allways thing first of WCS. Calling them iStab would be better
Oh my, I see a new generation of shipnames: iPhoon, iRaven, iHurricane, ... , iPod. ;)
Why do I hear the sound of stampeding lawyers? --- Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!! |
Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.02.13 19:24:00 -
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Necromancy is bad, esp since there is a sticked topic on the forums. IBTL
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Horza Otho
Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2007.02.13 20:02:00 -
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3x hvy dim 4x siege/cruise (your pick) 1x recon probe launcher 1x gist b/x mwd 1x t2 WD/28k 1x ts webby 1xhvy injector 5x t2 nanos 2x local hull istab 5x ogre II 10x warrior II
imo. i wud never fly it cuz nano domi is better, but yeah. --- Eris Discordia is miiiiiine |
Phish1
Liberty Forces Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:54:00 -
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till i-stabs get nerfed im enjoying an interesting drone + guns variation.
this is not for solo, as no scram, but its pretty damn survivable for fleet ops.
high: 4 1400mm arties, cruise launcher, 3 drone link augmentors (20k further drone control range, putting you at 105 km with scout drone operation lvl 5) med: 100mn MWD, SB II, cap recharger, omnidirectional tracking unit (drone tracking computer) low: MAR II, 6 i-stabs and nanos (you play a bit to get the best)
drones: 5 warden 3 valk II 4 warrior II
drop drones 100k from the fight, orbit away from them so you dont look like you are together, shoot away with guns and missile, if you need to scoop, mwd towards drones and click redurn to cargo bay before u get there, u will bump into them and suck em in as u pass, keeping speed and also saving drones.
DPS may lack a bit but it never fails to make the enemy go WTF for long enough to put some pain on them.
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Ryysa
North Face Force Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.04 09:27:00 -
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Edited by: Ryysa on 04/03/2007 09:24:01 There's like not one decent setup in the thread >.< Siege: 4x arba siege, 4x heavy dim nos mwd, heavy injector, sensor booster, 24km+ disruptor 2x istabs, 3x nanos, rcu II, bcu II
Cruise: 4x cruise II, 4x heavy dim nos mwd, med injector(iirc), sensor booster, 24km+ disruptor 2x istabs, 4x nanos, bcu II
Pimp: 4x dread gurista siege, 4x heavy dim(or TS) nos. Gist B-Type MWD, med injector, sensor booster, 28km disruptor 2x istabs, 4x t2 nanos, bcu II
Ofc, 3x mwd/ab speed rigs on all setups (Propellant Injection Vent I).
P.S. For best speed fit 2 istabs first and after that nanos. Do the math if you like. Also, because ship mass is factored into the amount your mwd increases your speed, istabs increase your MWD speed, but not your base speed.
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Dr Tsunami
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Posted - 2007.03.27 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Marcathonas
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Elaron
Originally by: Butter Dog I hate to break the party but inertial stabalisers don't increase your speed.
Not when just trundling along, true.
Light up a MWD though, and you'll see the advantage they give.
Inertial Stabs do not increase your maximum speed.
They do, however, allow you to reach your maximum speed faster.
Completely wrong. Go put them on and use a MWD. Since they aren't as % based as they claim, they're affected by mass.
Or, cheaper, try it on a stabber. With my appalling skills, 2 nanos and an overdrive = 2600m/s. 2 istabs and an overdrive = 3k/s.
They are adding speed, and that's a proven fact. Less mass = more agility = more speed.
Also, with rigs, istabs, faction mwd and possibly boosters, I've seen a phoon hit almost 9k.
Try catching that.
Well, i tried on my inty and it doesnt add to max speed. MAybe you were considering your pre-patch setup. Another thing you got wrong is "Less mass = more agility = more speed". The statement by itself is 100% correct. But look at the istab stats. It doesnt reduce mass, it actually ADDS to mass a tiny bit. So in general, you should even go very slightly slower than without istabs (probably not even noticable). If you can prove it does go faster, it should be considered a bug because it should penalize mass a tiny bit!
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hereward rowland
Macrocosm Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.27 12:45:00 -
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/signed yay uber speed bs's again!!!!
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