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X ATM092
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.16 00:26:12 -
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X ATM092
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.18 09:45:38 -
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X ATM092
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.22 11:23:56 -
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X ATM092
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.23 03:50:55 -
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c 3 po
The New Eden School of trade
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Posted - 2015.10.24 02:25:48 -
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X ATM092
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.31 05:04:19 -
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X ATM092
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.07 23:18:48 -
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Mohandar Sabezan
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.09 06:22:21 -
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It might be a Raven State Issue, but it will melt almost just as fast as a Raven against a small gang =P |
Winthorp
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Posted - 2015.11.09 10:14:47 -
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1600 plex
I am Winthorp, you might remember me from such films as "Winthorp is to blame for permanent signature ID's".
Please note i don't engage in any meaningful discussion with NPC alts, nut up or shut up...
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X ATM092
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.13 04:09:24 -
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Winthorp
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Posted - 2015.11.13 04:13:58 -
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After coming to agreement with the seller i had to retract my offer as it became too complicated.
The item for sale is being held by Chribba as collateral for another deal the seller is involved in and requires you to then have Chribba facilitate the sale. The item is not in Jita also.
I am Winthorp, you might remember me from such films as "Winthorp is to blame for permanent signature ID's".
Please note i don't engage in any meaningful discussion with NPC alts, nut up or shut up...
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X ATM092
State Protectorate Caldari State
514
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Posted - 2015.11.13 04:21:24 -
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Winthorp wrote:After coming to agreement with the seller i had to retract my offer as it became too complicated.
The item for sale is being held by Chribba as collateral for another deal the seller is involved in and requires you to then have Chribba facilitate the sale. The item is not in Jita also. This was never a serious offer. Chribba is happy to perform the deal in Jita. The RSI for plex contract came from Chribba, not me, but everything else is identical. I do not believe that anyone who genuinely wished to spend 1600 plex could possibly be put off by something that minor. It's like offering to buy a jaguar and then haggling over whether it comes with half a tank or a full tank.
Furthermore Winthorp did not voice complaints or ask for any accommodations to be made for him, it was just "wait, the tank isn't full?!?! THE DEAL IS OFF!!!!!!!!!!!".
If you would like to buy it by direct item exchange contract in Jita 4-4 from Chribba then please feel free to make a WTB contract in Jita 4-4 for a raven state issue to Chribba with the payment set at 1600 plex. If that is too complicated for you then I'm sorry but I just can't help you. |
Winthorp
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Posted - 2015.11.13 04:24:21 -
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X ATM092 wrote:Winthorp wrote:After coming to agreement with the seller i had to retract my offer as it became too complicated.
The item for sale is being held by Chribba as collateral for another deal the seller is involved in and requires you to then have Chribba facilitate the sale. The item is not in Jita also. This was never a serious offer. Chribba is happy to perform the deal in Jita. The RSI for plex contract came from Chribba, not me, but everything else is identical. I do not believe that anyone who genuinely wished to spend 1600 plex could possibly be put off by something that minor. It's like offering to buy a jaguar and then haggling over whether it comes with half a tank or a full tank. Furthermore Winthorp did not voice complaints or ask for any accommodations to be made for him, it was just "wait, the tank isn't full?!?! THE DEAL IS OFF!!!!!!!!!!!". If you would like to buy it by direct item exchange contract in Jita 4-4 from Chribba then please feel free to make a WTB contract in Jita 4-4 for a raven state issue to Chribba with the payment set at 1600 plex. If that is too complicated for you then I'm sorry but I just can't help you.
On my last car purchase they did indeed fill the tank.
I didn't continue because these details were never revealed and it became to suspicious for me to bother continuing Chribba or not.
I am Winthorp, you might remember me from such films as "Winthorp is to blame for permanent signature ID's".
Please note i don't engage in any meaningful discussion with NPC alts, nut up or shut up...
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Winthorp
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Posted - 2015.11.13 04:28:19 -
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Good luck with your "Sale" though.
I am Winthorp, you might remember me from such films as "Winthorp is to blame for permanent signature ID's".
Please note i don't engage in any meaningful discussion with NPC alts, nut up or shut up...
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X ATM092
State Protectorate Caldari State
514
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Posted - 2015.11.13 04:28:34 -
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Winthorp wrote:X ATM092 wrote:Winthorp wrote:After coming to agreement with the seller i had to retract my offer as it became too complicated.
The item for sale is being held by Chribba as collateral for another deal the seller is involved in and requires you to then have Chribba facilitate the sale. The item is not in Jita also. This was never a serious offer. Chribba is happy to perform the deal in Jita. The RSI for plex contract came from Chribba, not me, but everything else is identical. I do not believe that anyone who genuinely wished to spend 1600 plex could possibly be put off by something that minor. It's like offering to buy a jaguar and then haggling over whether it comes with half a tank or a full tank. Furthermore Winthorp did not voice complaints or ask for any accommodations to be made for him, it was just "wait, the tank isn't full?!?! THE DEAL IS OFF!!!!!!!!!!!". If you would like to buy it by direct item exchange contract in Jita 4-4 from Chribba then please feel free to make a WTB contract in Jita 4-4 for a raven state issue to Chribba with the payment set at 1600 plex. If that is too complicated for you then I'm sorry but I just can't help you. On my last car purchase they did indeed fill the tank. I didn't continue because these details were never revealed and it became to suspicious for me to bother continuing Chribba or not. You are too suspicious of being scammed to make a contract yourself, where you get to enter the terms, with Chribba?
I'm amazed you were able to buy the car, were you not suspicious it might be a few horses in fancy dress? |
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2015.11.13 05:44:57 -
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Winthorp wrote:After coming to agreement with the seller i had to retract my offer as it became too complicated.
The item for sale is being held by Chribba as collateral for another deal the seller is involved in and requires you to then have Chribba facilitate the sale. The item is not in Jita also.
Why would you want the RSI to be in Jita? If the PLEX is of equal value to the RSI, why can't the raven be swapped for the PLEX? |
Winthorp
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Posted - 2015.11.13 06:32:34 -
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Alexi Stokov wrote:Winthorp wrote:After coming to agreement with the seller i had to retract my offer as it became too complicated.
The item for sale is being held by Chribba as collateral for another deal the seller is involved in and requires you to then have Chribba facilitate the sale. The item is not in Jita also. Why would you want the RSI to be in Jita? If the PLEX is of equal value to the RSI, why can't the raven be swapped for the PLEX?
Who sells something that is being held as collateral for another deal without disclosing that?
I am Winthorp, you might remember me from such films as "Winthorp is to blame for permanent signature ID's".
Please note i don't engage in any meaningful discussion with NPC alts, nut up or shut up...
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Umar Umarhabib
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2015.11.13 07:06:27 -
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Winthorp wrote:Alexi Stokov wrote:Winthorp wrote:After coming to agreement with the seller i had to retract my offer as it became too complicated.
The item for sale is being held by Chribba as collateral for another deal the seller is involved in and requires you to then have Chribba facilitate the sale. The item is not in Jita also. Why would you want the RSI to be in Jita? If the PLEX is of equal value to the RSI, why can't the raven be swapped for the PLEX? Who sells something that is being held as collateral for another deal without disclosing that?
I'd have to go with X ATM092 on this one. Sounds like you just genuinely didn't want to do the deal. Because what is there to "disclose" when it's done through the contract system? There's no "SEC" to confiscate the Raven whether it's a collateral or not.
On the other hand things might have worked out the best. I wonder what the price of the Raven State Issue would be if CCP decides to release more of them like they did with the Magnates. |
Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.13 07:48:34 -
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CCP's new liberal Special Edt. Ships Policy makes that deal a serious high risk. Imagine CCP is re-releasing RSI for next year's Caldari Championship. Imagine you burned more than 1.6trill for nothing. |
Pelle Wittewoa
University of Caille Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2015.11.13 11:46:03 -
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Im with wintrop. It sounds really fishy. And whats that other deal about? I can inmagin that the rsi is collateral for something else, like a bond. Sounds like the op is a gambler. Has no trust, screaming all over it. |
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Winthorp
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Posted - 2015.11.13 12:40:44 -
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Pelle Wittewoa wrote:Im with wintrop. It sounds really fishy. And whats that other deal about? I can inmagin that the rsi is collateral for something else, like a bond. Sounds like the op is a gambler. Has no trust, screaming all over it.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6119185#post6119185
I am Winthorp, you might remember me from such films as "Winthorp is to blame for permanent signature ID's".
Please note i don't engage in any meaningful discussion with NPC alts, nut up or shut up...
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Umar Umarhabib
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.13 17:13:35 -
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Sounds like the seller doesn't want people to know exactly how much he's making, which has nothing to do with the integrity of this sale. After all if you want to buy the item, and think this is the real value, why would you care?
But I must admit, 1.65 tril is kind of overpriced, and seems greedy.
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Hulluus
Kuolettava Hulluus
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Posted - 2015.11.13 18:07:28 -
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The entire point of anybody ever using Chribba for deals/trades/etc is so that you don't *have* to trust the person selling the item - no matter how shady they may be....
So why the universe suddenly doubts the integrity of Chribba is beyond me.
I do agree though, the price seems a bit high... |
X ATM092
State Protectorate Caldari State
517
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Posted - 2015.11.14 18:50:52 -
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The current situation - I have a bond collateralized by a raven state issue by Chribba
The steps that involve a buyer 1) Creating contract with chribba to buy a raven state issue for 1600 plex 2) Receiving a raven state issue when contract is accepted by Chribba
The new situation - I now have a bond that was previously collateralized by a raven state issue which is now collateralized by 1600 plex held by Chribba
In what way is this complicated for people? The trade is done by contract which the buyer is free to create. Furthermore it's done by contract with Chribba, of all people. This is the maximum of legitimate. |
Winthorp
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Posted - 2015.11.14 21:16:17 -
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See how hard was that to be honest with people... |
X ATM092
State Protectorate Caldari State
517
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Posted - 2015.11.14 21:29:02 -
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I was never dishonest. You were just trolling me from the beginning. None of those details are relevant to the sale which is where a Raven State is contracted for 1600 plex. |
Winthorp
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Posted - 2015.11.14 21:37:13 -
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OK then.
Good luck with your sale. |
ISD Buldath
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2015.11.15 23:51:55 -
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Quote: 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster.
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~ISD Buldath
Interstellar Services Department
Support, Training and Resources Division
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Shaleen
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.18 13:18:05 -
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X ATM092 wrote:The current situation - I have a bond collateralized by a raven state issue by Chribba
The steps that involve a buyer 1) Creating contract with chribba to buy a raven state issue for 1600 plex 2) Receiving a raven state issue when contract is accepted by Chribba
The new situation - I now have a bond that was previously collateralized by a raven state issue which is now collateralized by 1600 plex held by Chribba
In what way is this complicated for people? The trade is done by contract which the buyer is free to create. Furthermore it's done by contract with Chribba, of all people. This is the maximum of legitimate.
If that trade go through , one can assume that you could play that game for few months for free..
It put the lotion on the skin or else it get a hose again
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X ATM092
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.19 04:46:30 -
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