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Lucas Capri
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Posted - 2006.12.08 10:29:00 -
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I am think of starting a character to train to Assault Frigate and Interceptor and then take to Recon and HAC and I was wondering what everyone in EVE thought was the best Race to use.
So please give why you think its the best race. Which ships you'd use for each class and what kind of weapons you'd outfit it with, ect...
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Elfman
Obsidian Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 10:34:00 -
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Hmm would have to say Gal or min.
Gal inty - tranis AF - enyo or ishkur HAC - Ishtar recon - Lachesis or arazu
Min
AF - jaguar Hac - vagabond recon - huggin or rapier
Thats from my own personal preference anyways.
Requiem aeternam dona eis, Domine, et lux perpetua luceat eis.
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UBERPWN
Amarr LDK
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:12:00 -
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It depends for what are you using the ships.
For instance if you are intending to use recons for solo PvP, then I would go for Amarr, but if you are intending to use recons for gangs, Caldari might be not that bad at the end.
And for the sake of this thread ---> "Jammers being nerfed" thread is somewhere around this board, so no need to hijack this one.
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MECTO
Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: MECTO on 08/12/2006 11:38:14 AF - Enyo, Ishkur vs Wolf/Jaguar - choose, both good
HACs - Deimos suck, Domi > Ishtar so? better have minmatar HACs if u did not would like to have gallente CS [i like them more then matar]
Recon - Arazu vs Rapier/Huginn again, both good [Falcon and Rook are not that nice this days.. post-kali]
Interceptor - Taranis > Claw, But Stilleto is devil[4 mids]
Amarr have sucky HACs & AF & Average Interceptors, but damn nice Recons and Command Ships
Caldari - Harpy, not bad for AF.. but don't aim for AF generaly cause its suck , nerfed Recons, cerb is useless HAC [farming hac], eagle is effective only in fleet fights [nerfed since even rifters have very good hp] and mostly ****ty CS
base ur choose on this and go Minmatar, they have VERY good all t2 ships.
It's Great Being Carebear in Kali - aint it?
Originally by: Tuxford In this picture you might think that Gallente totally pwn. Well they're alright
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:40:00 -
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If you don't mind the relatively weaker recons go Minnie, especially if you plan on adding the interdictor class ship to that list of yours.
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slothe
Caldari Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 08/12/2006 11:49:05
i fly caldari, minnie and gallente.
gallente are good, but minmatar are more fun (jags great) and dont underate the muninn i kinda like it (its miles better than a deimos).
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Tarri
FACTA NON VERBA Kurai Komichi
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:51:00 -
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I have to agree with the poster above me, the minmatar interdictor is a damn fine ship. It makes up for the claw which ainŠt that good imo, Stiletto is the best inty tackler (Crow seems very nice too as it can still do a bit of damage).
Recons I donŠt fly, and hacs i only used the vaga until now which i really like but who is also very expensive.
Imo caldari and amarr have nice ships in this class too. I would would say it depends on your gamestyle (solo, gang, support, gank....). So if you wanna fly all 4 classes you said you should just pick the race whose concept you like best. ----
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:16:00 -
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I would have to say that the Gallente are really nice, they were always good for 1v1 and small gangs, but the Arazu just became my favorate Recon - warp scrams are bigger then ever now, and the Arazu is the ship for that. The Tanaris is a bloody nice Interceptor, arguably the best (Crow is close) and for AFs, the Ishker is simply king.
So Gallente are the best I think. . .
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Krulla
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine If you don't mind the relatively weaker recons go Minnie, especially if you plan on adding the interdictor class ship to that list of yours.
For gangs, I'd say the minnie recons are on par with the gallentean ones, and easily more useful than either the caldari or amarr ones - that web range bonus is nice.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:01:00 -
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It really depends on PVP vs PVE.
For PVE its some what situational by race but Gallente and Caldari have the best AFs over all.
For PVP the Jaguer is probably the best, but its essentially a completely different kind of ship than the other AFs.
I think the Crow is the best 1 on 1 Interceotor becuase it has greater effective range, but if you want a Inty for group flying others like the Stilleto work as well or even better.
HACs are are rather specific purpose ships. The Cerb is the PVE king. hTe Vagabond a great ship but so different from the other HACs you cant make a good caparision. The Eagle canr me a great sniper or a fairly good upclose ship. Of course Ballante is you like drone. And the Ammar are good(with nice resists) all around like the Gallente.
You cant say who has the best HACs.
Recon are really best used in pair. Beyond that it depends on which type EWAR you need in a specific situation.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Angus McLean
Gallente Divinity Trials
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:25:00 -
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If you play for fun, youll want Amarr. Because not being able to kill stuff is pretty fun .
But seriously, I like flying the prettiest ship even if it doesnt do jack crappity squat. Hence why I picked Amarr, purdy ships.
AF- Retribution Inty- Malediction HAC- Zealot Recon- Curse
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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Angus McLean If you play for fun, youll want Amarr. Because not being able to kill stuff is pretty fun .
But seriously, I like flying the prettiest ship even if it doesnt do jack crappity squat. Hence why I picked Amarr, purdy ships.
AF- Retribution Inty- Malediction HAC- Zealot Recon- Curse
Besides, you have God as your co-pilot ;) ----------------------------------------------
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Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: MECTO Edited by: MECTO on 08/12/2006 11:38:14 AF - Enyo, Ishkur vs Wolf/Jaguar - choose, both good
HACs - Deimos suck, Domi > Ishtar so? better have minmatar HACs if u did not would like to have gallente CS [i like them more then matar]
Recon - Arazu vs Rapier/Huginn again, both good [Falcon and Rook are not that nice this days.. post-kali]
Interceptor - Taranis > Claw, But Stilleto is devil[4 mids]
Amarr have sucky HACs & AF & Average Interceptors, but damn nice Recons and Command Ships
Caldari - Harpy, not bad for AF.. but don't aim for AF generaly cause its suck , nerfed Recons, cerb is useless HAC [farming hac], eagle is effective only in fleet fights [nerfed since even rifters have very good hp] and mostly ****ty CS
base ur choose on this and go Minmatar, they have VERY good all t2 ships.
You call the zealot a crappy HAC? lmfao OP don't listen to this guy...
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Lucas Capri
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Posted - 2006.12.08 17:32:00 -
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I am looking to run in Wolf Pack type gangs.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.12.08 17:37:00 -
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It depends what your running with then. Different ships and skills compliment different ships and skills.
Id ask the people you plan to run with.
Its hard to go wrong picking Gallente for all around effectiveness I would say. Minmatar requires more skills to make the best use of. Caldari has some great PVP roles but its over all strength is PVE. Ammar - well its actually not bad but its plain jane and has no great strength so people dont like it.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Siakel
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Posted - 2006.12.08 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Exogene
Originally by: MECTO Edited by: MECTO on 08/12/2006 11:38:14 AF - Enyo, Ishkur vs Wolf/Jaguar - choose, both good
HACs - Deimos suck, Domi > Ishtar so? better have minmatar HACs if u did not would like to have gallente CS [i like them more then matar]
Recon - Arazu vs Rapier/Huginn again, both good [Falcon and Rook are not that nice this days.. post-kali]
Interceptor - Taranis > Claw, But Stilleto is devil[4 mids]
Amarr have sucky HACs & AF & Average Interceptors, but damn nice Recons and Command Ships
Caldari - Harpy, not bad for AF.. but don't aim for AF generaly cause its suck , nerfed Recons, cerb is useless HAC [farming hac], eagle is effective only in fleet fights [nerfed since even rifters have very good hp] and mostly ****ty CS
base ur choose on this and go Minmatar, they have VERY good all t2 ships.
You call the zealot a crappy HAC? lmfao OP don't listen to this guy...
I wouldn't call it crappy, but neither would I call it as amazing as some people seem to think it is. Especially the ones who think it's a DPS monster.
Tier3-T1 Cruisers who don't outdamage the Zealot: Moa, Maller.
Zealot just isn't very impressive as a ganker, though it can fit a nice tank. Just... *sigh* don't know. It's not really impressed me for a while, though.
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Sachi Mai
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2006.12.08 22:34:00 -
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I like my crusader but the Crow or Raptor win the Inty sweep stakes.
We tested them out.
Raptor vs Taranis
Taranis vs Crusader.
The Taranis was T2 equipped the others T1 with the Raptor having the best named T1 125mm rails and launchers.
Taranis vs Raptor
Even though the Tar was in its optimum and had webbed the Raptor, the Raptor took the Taranis down to 20% armour at the loss of around 5% shields. Missles chewed the Taranis to pieces.
Against my Crusader the taranis did better, with better gunnery skills and a pure PVP setup compared to the random crap I had fitted I was into armour before he was.
So interceptor wise I would go for Caldari. The Taranis with blasters would most likely do more DPS against larger targets than the Raptor.
Assualt Frigates I'm traning for Amarr, rp racial for the lose, while my main trains up for Gallente and Caldari. Caldari look promising although the Gallente drone boat will be my personal fav.
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Donna Divine
Gilded Goose Brokerage
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Posted - 2006.12.08 22:55:00 -
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Just take minmatar for small ships in wolfpack style gangs.
Funnily enough they are actually the best at hit and run. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:22:00 -
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Inties: Crow. Missiles+ speed tank. You can do full damage at insane speeds, very up close. Bets ceptor in game.
HACs: Vaga. Simply most fun to fly. Fun > all, so no debate on this.
Recons: This is a tough one. A team of Lachesis/arazu + Hugin/rapier is just a pretty sight. With faction webs and distrupters + damps they can bring down pretty much anything.
Oh, well. A lot depends on what you like in your ships and what your friends fly, so you might want to talk it through with them so you can have a coherent team that takes into account all angles etc. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |
Xiaodown
Dragons Of Redemption Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.09 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Exogene
Originally by: MECTO Edited by: MECTO on 08/12/2006 11:38:14 AF - Enyo, Ishkur vs Wolf/Jaguar - choose, both good
HACs - Deimos suck, Domi > Ishtar so? better have minmatar HACs if u did not would like to have gallente CS [i like them more then matar]
Recon - Arazu vs Rapier/Huginn again, both good [Falcon and Rook are not that nice this days.. post-kali]
Interceptor - Taranis > Claw, But Stilleto is devil[4 mids]
Amarr have sucky HACs & AF & Average Interceptors, but damn nice Recons and Command Ships
Caldari - Harpy, not bad for AF.. but don't aim for AF generaly cause its suck , nerfed Recons, cerb is useless HAC [farming hac], eagle is effective only in fleet fights [nerfed since even rifters have very good hp] and mostly ****ty CS
base ur choose on this and go Minmatar, they have VERY good all t2 ships.
You call the zealot a crappy HAC? lmfao OP don't listen to this guy...
Yeah, this guy has no idea what he's talking about. Seriously, ignore him.
"The eagle is effective only in fleet fights"? Riiight, find Stonyvision and ask him what he thinks about the 700 damage wrecking shots on his blaster eagle. The Cerberus is useless? Riiight, like a gun is useless in a knife fight.
Caldari have LOTS of problems, the fact that the rook and falcon are now worthless, but let's be honest... The caldari HACs are sick.
But, if it was me, yeah, I'd go Amarr for solo PvP in recons.
ALSO: KEEP IN MIND - if you train one race's HAC's or Recons, it's not far to another race's. I mean, I fly a rook now. If I wanted to get into a pilgrim, I'd need to finish training up for T2 medium drones, and a few more days into armor skills and nos skills. After that, you just sit-and-spin while waiting for Cruiser V.
Same thing for a HAC. If you wanted to go from one race to the other, you already have hull upgrades, mechanic, engineering at lvl V, assault frigs at lvl IV, spaceship command V, weapons upgrades V, all that stuff. It's just the racial skills and the supporting skills for that ship's bonuses.
If you get into one, and find you don't like it, just hop over to another.
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.09 04:08:00 -
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Well, maybe it's not on topic. But there are few things I fear more than seeing a Minnie/Gallente recon duo show up on my overview. Scrammed, webbed, dampened down to a truly pitiful max targeting range and getting hammered with stuff that says boom. That's just one of those moments when you self-destruct your ship and hope that you can at least save your implants by going out before they expected you to.
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