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Haas Tabris
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:38:00 -
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Anyone out there have any luck with invention yet? I keep getting this totally nonsense error message everytime I try to load a BPC into an invention line:
"This job cannot result in an output blueprint. The reason might be that the metalevel of your input blueprint is too high or that there are no items in the same metagroup with a higher metalevel."
Can anyone translate that for me? Or is this just some stupid CCP inside joke that the system doesn't even work yet and they're laughing at me for trying?
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Trevyn Pulsar
Minmatar Singularity Trafficers
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:39:00 -
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Sounds like they have a metalevel cap on the bpc you use. What's the ME/PE of your bpc?
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:40:00 -
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what BP were you trying to invent? ___________________________ ~Jiekon
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Pia Domina
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:43:00 -
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I had the same problem and posted about it in this thread, and it seems I just chose a BPC of something that didn't have a T2 version.
But...
What is a metalevel?
jiekon, could you possible explain it a bit? Because if there is a maximum ME or PE rating for BPCs that go into invention, then it really would help to know!
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Radioactive Babe
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Trevyn Pulsar Sounds like they have a metalevel cap on the bpc you use. What's the ME/PE of your bpc?
awwww crap, I have been busily getting my bpo's as high as possible ... and now we find this out
btw I'm waiting for other people to find the daft bugs/issues/crapology so i dont waste isk/RP's ...so thanks to the OP
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Haas Tabris
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:46:00 -
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Well, here's what I've tried:
I "bought" 4 plasma phyics datacores off one of my R&D agents. Then tried loading several well researched bpc's of antimatter small, anit med, irridium small, bloodclaw light, etc. All of them had ME's of 30 or higher, PE's of 20 or higher, 1500 runs each.
Nothing worked.
So I bought a few more bpo's off the market and stuck them in for copying. No ME research, no PE research. Took the copies, some at 100 runs, some at 500 runs, some at 1500 runs, and tried inventing with them again, still the same response.
Some of these I have t1 ammo samples of, some of them I don't. I was trying everything I could think of....
Do I have the wrong datacore type for these? Or are these the wrong bpc's to yield t2 bpc's? I'm pretty sure I have plasma physics datacores, but I'll double check when I get back in game.
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DaChMon
Caldari FireTech Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:48:00 -
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IIRC you cannot invent ammo
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Haas Tabris
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: DaChMon IIRC you cannot invent ammo
You're ****ting me??? LOL. Why not?
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:50:00 -
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i really don't think ME level affects anything like this. I`m not 100% sure on teh whole invention thing.
I`ll try poke Hammerhead or Tuxford about it. I know industrial ships and Mining barges had this problem, but it should be fixed now.
As far as i know, you can't invent tech2 ammo because....well..it doesn't exist (advanced blaster ammo or advanced artillery ammo, for example isn't tech2. It's ammo for use in tech2 guns) ___________________________ ~Jiekon
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solidshot
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Haas Tabris
Well, here's what I've tried:
I "bought" 4 plasma phyics datacores off one of my R&D agents. Then tried loading several well researched bpc's of antimatter small, anit med, irridium small, bloodclaw light, etc. All of them had ME's of 30 or higher, PE's of 20 or higher, 1500 runs each.
Nothing worked.
So I bought a few more bpo's off the market and stuck them in for copying. No ME research, no PE research. Took the copies, some at 100 runs, some at 500 runs, some at 1500 runs, and tried inventing with them again, still the same response.
Some of these I have t1 ammo samples of, some of them I don't. I was trying everything I could think of....
Do I have the wrong datacore type for these? Or are these the wrong bpc's to yield t2 bpc's? I'm pretty sure I have plasma physics datacores, but I'll double check when I get back in game.
iirc ammo and drones are not inventable at the moment
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Pixmo Nostra
Gallente Federation of Friends and Stuff Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Pixmo Nostra on 05/12/2006 17:51:41 IIRC you can't use ammo for invention just yet (some other stuff you can't invent yet too, can't remember what though). I'm sure it's mentioned somewhere on the forums.
EDIT: The lag is strong on teh forums.
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RaTTuS
BIG R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:52:00 -
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That message is for stuff that don't have a t2 invention route.
try frigs or modules as a test [ or test on Sisi]
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Haas Tabris
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:52:00 -
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Well, thanks for the replies.... guess I'll hang onto my RP then. Oh well.
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Pia Domina
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon I`ll try poke Hammerhead or Tuxford about it.
Fantastic, thank you. Will the response be here, or where should we look? (I'm keen to know since I've got a T1 BPO in research at the moment to a high ME level before I start making BPCs from it to try invention...!)
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:55:00 -
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i`ll reply here with the info. ___________________________ ~Jiekon
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DaveW
Caldari South Park Development
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon i really don't think ME level affects anything like this. I`m not 100% sure on teh whole invention thing.
No disrespect, but, would you please try and find someone at CCP that does and see if they'd mind answering a few questions?
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:56:00 -
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they ARE kinda busy at the moment, but when they are availabe, i will ask them. ___________________________ ~Jiekon
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Haas Tabris
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:58:00 -
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Cool. One more question then while I have the floor...
Does the type of datacore really matter? As in, can I use what I thought were t2 ammo datacores for a shot at inventing hybrid turrents instead?
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sableye
principle of motion R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:58:00 -
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ammo is'nt worth inventing anyway I have to tech 2 ammo bpo's and they are'nt even worth building with bpo's they just sit rotting in my hanger. Join The Fight With Promo Today |
Shayla Sh'inlux
Gallente The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon As far as i know, you can't invent tech2 ammo because....well..it doesn't exist (advanced blaster ammo or advanced artillery ammo, for example isn't tech2. It's ammo for use in tech2 guns)
Then what's that shiny yellow triangle with a "II" doing in the corner of "not tech II ammo but ammo for use in tech II guns"?
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Shayla Etherodyne
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:00:00 -
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Jiekon, can you broke a lance to make drones availables for invention? For the gallente they are a weapon, like T2 launchers or guns, and the prices are very high for some kind of drone.
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Haas Tabris
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: sableye ammo is'nt worth inventing anyway I have to tech 2 ammo bpo's and they are'nt even worth building with bpo's they just sit rotting in my hanger.
Hey, if you want to unload them, I'd be happy to help you thin out your hanger a bit...
Seriously, if you want to sell them, look me up in game.
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Originally by: Jiekon As far as i know, you can't invent tech2 ammo because....well..it doesn't exist (advanced blaster ammo or advanced artillery ammo, for example isn't tech2. It's ammo for use in tech2 guns)
Then what's that shiny yellow triangle with a "II" doing in the corner of "not tech II ammo but ammo for use in tech II guns"?
So you know it's for use in tech2 guns.
If you look at the "variations" tab of any ammo, it doesn't list a tech2 variant. Even though teh ammo icons have a II logo ___________________________ ~Jiekon
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Erfnam
Time Cube Syndicate Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:05:00 -
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When in doubt, show info on the blueprint and click the materials tab. If there is an invention tab, it can be invented and will list the required items.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:07:00 -
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In other words, you can only INVENT something that REQUIRES a T1 item of same type in the CONSTRUCTION of the corresponding T2 item. As T2 ammo does not appear to require T1 ammo as input... well, you get the idea. Am I wrong ? _____ -sig-
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Ray McCormack
BIG
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:11:00 -
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A metalevel is the quality of the item listed under the variations' tab.
You get Basic, Named Basic, Tech I, Named Tech I, Tech II, Faction, Officer, COSMOS, etc. These are all metalevels of items.
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000Hunter000
Gallente The Lookers
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:13:00 -
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So is there anyone who has tried this?
What would i need to say, 'invent' a deimos using a rax bpc?
Tbh, the little blog that was made on invetion wasn't that clear, atleast not to me. Resized tag... hope this pleases the tag ninjas from ccp :p
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T In other words, you can only INVENT something that REQUIRES a T1 item of same type in the CONSTRUCTION of the corresponding T2 item. As T2 ammo does not appear to require T1 ammo as input... well, you get the idea. Am I wrong ?
Yep, re-checked: none of the T2 ammos nor any of the T2 drones require T1 counterparts inputs in their manufacture, hence they can't be invented. _____ -sig-
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Katril Wolf
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Erfnam When in doubt, show info on the blueprint and click the materials tab. If there is an invention tab, it can be invented and will list the required items.
You mean I can invent T2 BS's. They have that tab!
Ok I know you can't, but just pointing out the fallacy in your logic.
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Dalekplunger Slick
Caldari DPS Holding Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:20:00 -
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Tell me, precious, where and how did you get your data interface?
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