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Starbuck05
D.E.V.I.L.S
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Posted - 2015.07.31 07:26:48 -
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Hello.
Yesterday i lost my tempest in high sec on a station to the faction popo. I have negative sec status, knew the risk i was taking but was in the midst of moving my assets out of w-space so had to take it.
My problem is that altough the popo was already at the station cause i've moved other stuff before so they smelled me , it took them about 20 seconds till initial agress and about another 30 till i was dead ...so say aprox 1min . Now in that 1 min i think i pressed the dock button atleast 100 times and yet.. No dock was achieved.
Now , i know how the docking mechanics ca be a little iffy and how not beeing right at the entrance of said station can cause a delay in docking...but ..for the love of Bob if i didnt had the motherload of all docking delays in eve history its ridiculous...
Yes i know i could had and should have used an insta-dock( started using after) but i was multi-tasking several toons and got careless.. But srsly man...even if you end up at the back of the station it should have delay docking,yes, but not that long dammit..
I can't rly say im uber uber upset about the loss cause i can replace it but still loosing a perfectly good ship that way is very annoying.
Any thoughts? I figured i'd come here cause GD is most viewed and atleast if i can't get my ship back( yeah..wishfull..) then maybe the trolls can give me a good chuckle about it :)
Thanks
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1302
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Posted - 2015.07.31 08:23:38 -
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ask for reimbursment, similar happened to me in a t3 trying to jump a gate
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.31 10:45:40 -
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Starbuck05 wrote: Yes i know i could had and should have used an insta-dock( started using after) but i was multi-tasking several toons and got careless.. But srsly man...even if you end up at the back of the station it should have delay docking,yes, but not that long dammit..
I can't rly say im uber uber upset about the loss cause i can replace it but still loosing a perfectly good ship that way is very annoying.
With just what I quoted if I was CCP I wouldn't reimburse.
You say you got careless and could have used inst-dock to avoid the situation, so it's clearly your fault for not paying attention.
It usually is annoying when you do something that can easily be avoided. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2015.07.31 11:21:50 -
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If you handle multiple characters which get chased by the facpo or some other tryhards, use a insta-dock bookmark and press autopilot* as soon as you are in warp. Your ship will dock automatically as soon as it exits warp, no matter how screwed up your client is.
*This is actually the only legal use case of the autopilot function. Everything else is bot-aspirant behaviour and therefore illegal in New Order territory.
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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1704
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Posted - 2015.07.31 12:38:12 -
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Ha, that's what you get for having negative sec status. Got what you deserved, you griefing scumbag!!
Who put the goat in there?
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lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
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Posted - 2015.07.31 12:50:18 -
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Not following here. Were you autopiloting? If not, it shouldn't be possible to end up that far away from the docking range (the 20+30 seconds time it took for the NPCs to kill you). Was it simply a bug that prevented you from docking even when you were 0 metres away from the station? |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.31 13:06:13 -
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If you got to a distance of 0 at the station and had no flags preventing you from docking, you should have been able to dock. If that's the case (and you know this for sure) then I'd raise a ticket for CCP to check the logs and make a decision.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1306
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Posted - 2015.07.31 13:09:35 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Ha, that's what you get for having negative sec status. Got what you deserved, you griefing scumbag!!
oh look a perfect little carebear looking at your killboard you seem to kill alot of industrials :/
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.07.31 13:29:29 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:Ha, that's what you get for having negative sec status. Got what you deserved, you griefing scumbag!! oh look a perfect little carebear looking at your killboard you seem to kill alot of industrials :/ Please take your sarcasm meter in for recalibration.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1307
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Posted - 2015.07.31 13:55:01 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:Ha, that's what you get for having negative sec status. Got what you deserved, you griefing scumbag!! oh look a perfect little carebear looking at your killboard you seem to kill alot of industrials :/ Please take your sarcasm meter in for recalibration.
yeah thats was a bit silly of me, sorry my bad
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Probebly Afk Cloaking
No Self Esteem Shadow Politics
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Posted - 2015.07.31 14:38:03 -
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i guess it was a roling higs battleship asfor the reason wy it took so long to get in docking range of the station |
Starbuck05
D.E.V.I.L.S
271
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:06:47 -
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Avvy wrote:Starbuck05 wrote: Yes i know i could had and should have used an insta-dock( started using after) but i was multi-tasking several toons and got careless.. But srsly man...even if you end up at the back of the station it should have delay docking,yes, but not that long dammit..
I can't rly say im uber uber upset about the loss cause i can replace it but still loosing a perfectly good ship that way is very annoying.
With just what I quoted if I was CCP I wouldn't reimburse. You say you got careless and could have used inst-dock to avoid the situation, so it's clearly your fault for not paying attention. It usually is annoying when you do something that can easily be avoided.
yes , but i am also trying to state the fact that docking timers are to long sometimes , don't cherry pick my op mate , read all of it .
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1314
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:08:36 -
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i believe its a glitch, as i said happened to me sitting at 0 on a gate in a t3, my tank held for quite a while but spamming jump didnt do anything, eventually i died
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Starbuck05
D.E.V.I.L.S
271
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:11:05 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Ha, that's what you get for having negative sec status. Got what you deserved, you griefing scumbag!!
lol ... hater :)
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??
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Starbuck05
D.E.V.I.L.S
271
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:13:55 -
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lmmortalist wrote:Not following here. Were you autopiloting? If not, it shouldn't be possible to end up that far away from the docking range (the 20+30 seconds time it took for the NPCs to kill you). Was it simply a bug that prevented you from docking even when you were 0 metres away from the station?
i was not autopiloting , i was manualy warping at 0 to said station from the exit wormhole .. it just happened to land me behind the station ... no flags to prevent me from docking ... the game or rather the mechanics of the station .. just wouldnt dock me up
Here's AURA's playback : Docking permision requested ... docking permision requested .. docking perm .. docking perm .. docking .. docking .. docking permision requested .... BOOOM
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??
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Masaaq
PYRO MANIACS A Band Apart.
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:37:45 -
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Petition it. Best thing to do pal. The GMs are pretty good at giving players their stuff back when it gets exploded due to a bug or some such.
Just remember that any loot dropped in the wreck will not be returned to you, just the ship and the destroyed items. |
Paranoid Loyd
6460
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:54:48 -
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As mentioned just file a petition.
But you haven't really been clear on the details. It seems plausible this could happen if a few factors aligned.
Did you land at zero, if not how far away were you? Did you have a higgs rig fit? What sec status was the system?
It seems to me if you prespawned the NPCs and landed at the farthest theoretical distance, the system security was .8 or higher and you had a higgs rig fit it would be possible for them to web you to the point you can't make it within the minimal docking distance before you go pop.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Starbuck05
D.E.V.I.L.S
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:01:25 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:As mentioned just file a petition.
But you haven't really been clear on the details. It seems plausible this could happen if a few factors aligned.
Did you land at zero, if not how far away were you? Did you have a higgs rig fit? What sec status was the system?
It seems to me if you prespawned the NPCs and landed at the farthest theoretical distance, the system security was .8 or higher and you had a higgs rig fit it would be possible for them to web you to the point you can't make it within the minimal docking distance before you go pop.
Station was at 0 distance from me ... so said the overview
YEs i had higs rigs on .. forgot to mention said tempest was a hole Rolling BS
i think 0.7 or 0.8 .. can't rly remember .
Fact is i was on the station just not in front of the entrance to the station .. i was in its backside but on 0 .. yet for aprox 1 min the damn ship wouldnt dock up .
Dunno what other details i could give
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??
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d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
206
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:14:51 -
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10+ year old bug.
Petition it, if it bugged/lagged out then you get your stuff back, minus what dropped.
Been around since the beginning.
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Paranoid Loyd
6461
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:14:59 -
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Yeah if you were at zero and didn't have a weapons timer sounds like a bug.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:41:59 -
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Starbuck05 wrote:Avvy wrote:Starbuck05 wrote: Yes i know i could had and should have used an insta-dock( started using after) but i was multi-tasking several toons and got careless.. But srsly man...even if you end up at the back of the station it should have delay docking,yes, but not that long dammit..
I can't rly say im uber uber upset about the loss cause i can replace it but still loosing a perfectly good ship that way is very annoying.
With just what I quoted if I was CCP I wouldn't reimburse. You say you got careless and could have used inst-dock to avoid the situation, so it's clearly your fault for not paying attention. It usually is annoying when you do something that can easily be avoided. yes , but i am also trying to state the fact that docking timers are to long sometimes , don't cherry pick my op mate , read all of it .
I did read it all, reason I didn't quote it all is because I was only referring to the bit I quoted.
You also don't mention you were at 0 in your opening post.
But why bother with this thread anyway seems to me you already made your mind up. You may as well have just put a support ticket in and let support decide. |
Commander Spurty
Dimension Door We need wards.
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:52:25 -
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What station did you try to dock in?
I know there's mechanics where standings affect docking rights
Be interesting to learn what happened if what you say is all that happened.
Be equally funny to read you were -10 to this station owner and you didn't see the "you can't rock here because we don't like you" messages
Either way, I'm curious to know.
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ISD Buldath
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2015.07.31 19:00:35 -
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The Session Change timer may and goofed up, It has happened to me in the past. File a ticket under reimbursement is really the only course of action you can do. Be sure to explain the whole situation in the Ticket.
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Starbuck05
D.E.V.I.L.S
272
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Posted - 2015.08.01 16:04:20 -
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Avvy wrote:Starbuck05 wrote:Avvy wrote:Starbuck05 wrote: Yes i know i could had and should have used an insta-dock( started using after) but i was multi-tasking several toons and got careless.. But srsly man...even if you end up at the back of the station it should have delay docking,yes, but not that long dammit..
I can't rly say im uber uber upset about the loss cause i can replace it but still loosing a perfectly good ship that way is very annoying.
With just what I quoted if I was CCP I wouldn't reimburse. You say you got careless and could have used inst-dock to avoid the situation, so it's clearly your fault for not paying attention. It usually is annoying when you do something that can easily be avoided. yes , but i am also trying to state the fact that docking timers are to long sometimes , don't cherry pick my op mate , read all of it . I did read it all, reason I didn't quote it all is because I was only referring to the bit I quoted. You also don't mention you were at 0 in your opening post. But why bother with this thread anyway seems to me you already made your mind up. You may as well have just put a support ticket in and let support decide.
Alright mate , fair enough.
I decided to make a topic out of it because i wanted to see if other people experienced it and also to notify people who don't know that it can happen and best not get careless like myself.
All in all there's no reason to act like a smartass ( so it seemed to me , if not then i apologize )
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??
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Starbuck05
D.E.V.I.L.S
272
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Posted - 2015.08.01 16:08:03 -
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Commander Spurty wrote:What station did you try to dock in?
I know there's mechanics where standings affect docking rights
Be interesting to learn what happened if what you say is all that happened.
Be equally funny to read you were -10 to this station owner and you didn't see the "you can't rock here because we don't like you" messages
Either way, I'm curious to know.
Caldari system .
Caldari type station ( 90% sure )
I have positive caldari faction standings , above 5.0 .
I have read all posts, thank you . I will file a petition when im home this sunday evening. I just wonder if its to late tough cause the loss happened several days ago.
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
947
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Posted - 2015.08.01 16:11:19 -
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Based on your posts I'm unsure if you understand how the docking works. There isn't a "delay" when you warp in without an instadock bookmark. Your ship simply has to be within 500m of the docking ring. If you do not use a bookmark your ship can end up 2500m away. The delay, if any, comes from your ship closing that distance.
Are you 100% sure you were within docking range of the station? It's possible you were webbed by facpo and your ship could not close the distance to the docking ring in time. This is especially likely if your ship "stalled" upon exiting warp instead of traversing towards the docking ring, a bug that is somewhat common.
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