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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:24:57 -
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Neuntausend wrote:So, you don't like to play this game?
I want to play a game, not interact with monkeys...
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Rogue AI
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:26:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Rogue AI wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Hi Al! Fun is not the centerpoint of all activity, even if there are many zombies out there who have nothing but that left in their lives. Instant gratification is a drug and these people are addicts, with all the consequences it has. Fun is the point of a game. Fun is all that too many people have left in their lifes. Fun is becoming the centerpoint of attention, at the expense of much more satisfying feelings.No, fun is not the point of a game.Play Go once in a while. Or Space Invaders. Feeling prpud of beating a game beats shallow fun of succeeding any time. Being centered around fun makes you an addict and not a valueable player of a game that has unparalelled depth like this one.
Well, that's certainly an interesting point of view you have there. I realise that people who perhaps haven't fulfilled their life goals might look to fulfill them in a virtual world instead, but I daresay most people don't take EVE that seriously. |
Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
189
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:26:04 -
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Harry Forever wrote:I want to play a game, not interact with monkeys...
Have you heard about single player games then? |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:27:01 -
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Neuntausend wrote:I have an idea: Create a fleet, give it a descriptive name, make it open to everyone, put a fleet advert up and link it in jita local. Then tell us how it worked out. Better yet, record it and put it on youtube.
no UI Buttons are there for communication, as well as the do not shoot fleetmember option is missing for that
I think you do not understand my idea
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Lan Wang
V I R I I
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:27:38 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Neuntausend wrote:So, you don't like to play this game? I want to play a game, not interact with monkeys...
why would you call intelligent people money's becuase they want to do it properly instead of getting a computer to do it?
id actually love matchmaking, i would defo fc a 50 man ****-fleet into a bubble and pipebomb the fck out of it. it would be glorious fires \o/
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:28:50 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I want to play a game, not interact with monkeys... Have you heard about single player games then?
I want to compete with humans, not socially interact, i play a game for competition, a system needs to be in place to assure we can do that without social interaction needed... see it like chess, no stupid talk needed just the game and the rules and the humans that compete using those rules and systems
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Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:29:57 -
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Harry Forever wrote:I think you do not understand my idea
You can broadcast about everything that is important in a fleet: Warp to, Align to, In Position, Primary Target, Need Shield/Armor/Hull, ... what else would you want?
As for not being able to shoot each other: How would you handle Smart Bombs, Bombs, ECM Burst, Bubbles? Because one doesn't need to be able to shoot you, in order to **** you over. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
946
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:30:28 -
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Rogue AI wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Rogue AI wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Hi Al! Fun is not the centerpoint of all activity, even if there are many zombies out there who have nothing but that left in their lives. Instant gratification is a drug and these people are addicts, with all the consequences it has. Fun is the point of a game. Fun is all that too many people have left in their lifes. Fun is becoming the centerpoint of attention, at the expense of much more satisfying feelings.No, fun is not the point of a game.Play Go once in a while. Or Space Invaders. Feeling prpud of beating a game beats shallow fun of succeeding any time. Being centered around fun makes you an addict and not a valueable player of a game that has unparalelled depth like this one. Well, that's certainly an interesting point of view you have there. I realise that people who perhaps haven't fulfilled their life goals might look to fulfill them in a virtual world instead, but I daresay most people don't take EVE that seriously. Nonsense. If these people have or ever had actual life goals they wouldn't waste their time with shallowness and simplicity. With kicks that feed their egos. Try again, but harder.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:30:45 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I want to play a game, not interact with monkeys... Have you heard about single player games then? I want to compete with humans, not socially interact, i play a game for competition, a system needs to be in place to assure we can do that without social interaction needed... see it like chess, no stupid talk needed just the game and the rules and the humans that compete using those rules and systems
chess requires brains, computers dont play chess for you or its pointless playing, strategy is the key to fleets and chess
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Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:33:10 -
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Harry, what do you think about this: Being able to form a proper fleet is part of the competition. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:37:30 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Harry, what do you think about this: Being able to form a proper fleet is part of the competition.
then why are you scared of random fleets with my fleet system? its just to get some random players to easy join fleets... you still can compete your way you know, no need to get worried if you have the best sollution to form a fleet right?
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Fugly Isktaker
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:38:47 -
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Fly to rookie systems, fleet invite random n00bs, enjoy. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:40:45 -
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Fugly Isktaker wrote:Fly to rookie systems, fleet invite random n00bs, enjoy.
for random fleets you need a no fleet member shoot mechanic
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Falken Falcon
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:45:03 -
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This thread got me my laughs of the day! Harry, i salute you.
Aye, Sea Turtles
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Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:45:17 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Harry, what do you think about this: Being able to form a proper fleet is part of the competition. then why are you scared of random fleets with my fleet system? its just to get some random players to easy join fleets... you still can compete your way you know, no need to get worried if you have the best sollution to form a fleet right?
Oh come on now! Arguments failing, you are trying random insults and provocation now. I think it's a stupid idea - that doesn't mean I am scared. Random fleets exist, and they work, and I am not scared of them either. What you propose is just unneccessary and wouldn't work. |
Don Pera Saissore
50
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:48:24 -
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search for a chat channel named "Spectre Fleet" and open it , dont read read the motd, put X in the chat, wait for the match making sistem to find you a fleet, accept the fleet invite, dont read the fleet motd just ask for coms and pass, get on coms, say hi and ask if you can bring a drake, have fun |
Lan Wang
V I R I I
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:49:35 -
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i actually support this idea now after thinking of how great it would be to have random cannon fodder at your disposal
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:50:14 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Harry, what do you think about this: Being able to form a proper fleet is part of the competition. then why are you scared of random fleets with my fleet system? its just to get some random players to easy join fleets... you still can compete your way you know, no need to get worried if you have the best sollution to form a fleet right? Oh come on now! Arguments failing, you are trying random insults and provocation now. I think it's a stupid idea - that doesn't mean I am scared. Random fleets exist, and they work, and I am not scared of them either. What you propose is just unneccessary and wouldn't work.
I would crush your fleet of 10 best friends with my random fleet that gets 30 players fast because of the easy access
its just the fear of nullsec alliances to find out they are not so special and so talented as they think
you think you need your social interaction and stuff to be a good fleet, I proof you wrong when my fleetsystem is in place
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
921
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:55:22 -
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Jeanne Tivianne wrote:No WoW-style raids/grouping please. And you know what? Automatic grouping is what was the nail in my personal WoW's coffin.
Meanwhile, I'm surprised that OP managed to farm several pages of responses by posting what is basically "let's get together with random people with no common goal and purpose in mind for no reason".
I can't even wrap my head around it, moreso - post a coherent reply to that.
Trust me OP, games that specifically do arenas as way better at it than EVE will ever be, but it's okay. It's not about that. I'm just surprised you continue to push for the idea for years. |
Captain Awkward
Republic University Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:56:23 -
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This thread hurts my brain.
A match making system in EvE ... so mutch fail. What exactly would this system "match". Skill ? Ship composition ? Even IF you could do that, what then ? Let them fight in a Battleground like arena against other fleets of the same size and skill ?
Dont try to make EvE into your LFG, LFR, random queue Battleground WoW clone where you play a "group" game without ever talking to anyone you are playing with.
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
948
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:57:02 -
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Harry Forever outed himself as a superficially thinking, self centered instant gratification addict.
More news at 11.
What a waste of oxygen.
TSHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
197
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:57:12 -
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Harry Forever wrote:its just the fear of nullsec alliances to find out they are not so special and so talented as they think
Talented enough to do what you propose without a matchmaking script helping them, which apparently makes them more talented than you. As I said earlier, being able to assemble a fleet is part of the competition, and you are unable to do that. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
948
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:58:11 -
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Lan Wang wrote:i actually support this idea now after thinking of how great it would be to have random cannon fodder at your disposal Not for long. Eventually the dumb, mindless masses will make sure that stops.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:58:44 -
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is this a troll?
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Captain Awkward
Republic University Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2015.07.15 13:04:09 -
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Harry Forever wrote:
I would crush your fleet of 10 best friends with my random fleet that gets 30 players fast because of the easy access
its just the fear of nullsec alliances to find out they are not so special and so talented as they think
you think you need your social interaction and stuff to be a good fleet, I proof you wrong when my fleetsystem is in place
Without coms, your 30 player random group would be spread out over 15 different systems. The 10 people who actually managed to be in the same system as the FC wouldnt even scratch the paint of any target because they have no focus fire and cant break the enemy repair while your fleed most likeley does not even have a logi. |
Baaldor
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion.
390
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Posted - 2015.07.15 13:07:49 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Harry, what do you think about this: Being able to form a proper fleet is part of the competition. then why are you scared of random fleets with my fleet system? its just to get some random players to easy join fleets... you still can compete your way you know, no need to get worried if you have the best sollution to form a fleet right? Oh come on now! Arguments failing, you are trying random insults and provocation now. I think it's a stupid idea - that doesn't mean I am scared. Random fleets exist, and they work, and I am not scared of them either. What you propose is just unneccessary and wouldn't work. I would crush your fleet of 10 best friends with my random fleet that gets 30 players fast because of the easy access its just the fear of nullsec alliances to find out they are not so special and so talented as they think you think you need your social interaction and stuff to be a good fleet, I proof you wrong when my fleetsystem is in place
You just "proof" to us that you really have no idea how it works, how Null sec let alone small gang **** in lo-sec works. Nor do you really understand fleet mechanics and how to make it work with in this game. |
Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
197
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Posted - 2015.07.15 13:16:28 -
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Lan Wang wrote:is this a troll?
With Harold Eternal, I am never quite sure. It's more than just possible he's dead serious about this. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.07.15 13:36:36 -
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I don't understand why you people are so butthurt, if the random fleets are so bad why not be happy for some stuff to shoot at?
lets bring the fleet system I'm talking about in place and lets see if your "talents" to form a fleet are really needed
pretty sure people who join my fleetsystem know how to hit F1 as good as your "professionals"
most of you alliance guys suffer from the illusion that random people could not easily do what you do, at the end you are just random people as well... the system just simplifys fleeting up and makes you "important" smartmouth people a bit unimportant
and thats what you fear the most, not beeing able to tell everybody how good you are
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Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
197
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Posted - 2015.07.15 13:45:08 -
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Nobody is butthurt. But let me explain why it is a terrible idea to implement a game mechanic that everyone but you thinks will not work:
It will most likely not work.
"Ok, so it doesn't work - it's still worth a try" I hear you say. But that's not the case:
1 - Spending time developing a mechanic, that we all (except you) know will be terribad is a stupid idea. That time should be spend developing something we (or anybody, for that matter) can actually use.
2 - New players will log into the game, find a broken, terrible game mechanic, log out and never touch the game again. This already happens far too often, don't expand on that.
3 - Eve is a social game. Trying to take away from the social gameplay is tlike trying to take away the spaceships.
I don't expect you to understand this, since you clearly stated that you would rather watch a bot play the game for you instead of playing the game, but believe me - if everybody tells you, that something is a bad idea, it may just be a bad idea. |
Lan Wang
V I R I I
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Posted - 2015.07.15 13:46:19 -
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Harry Forever wrote:I don't understand why you people are so butthurt, if the random fleets are so bad why not be happy for some stuff to shoot at?
lets bring the fleet system I'm talking about in place and lets see if your "talents" to form a fleet are really needed
pretty sure people who join my fleetsystem know how to hit F1 as good as your "professionals"
most of you alliance guys suffer from the illusion that random people could not easily do what you do, at the end you are just random people as well... the system just simplifys fleeting up and makes you "important" smartmouth people a bit unimportant
and thats what you fear the most, not beeing able to tell everybody how good you are
1. ccp wont do it because its stupid 2. you are being lazy and uncreative 3. you are not very intelligent 4. i determined 3 because you cant post in the correct forum section
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