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Kaster
Siege Blades
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:40:34 -
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I love the redesigns for all the ships you have been doing. they seem more in line with the ships introduced later in the game.
I see a lot of "Iconic" this "loved" that, however from a person that has been flying in EVE since 2004 i can recall a lot of discussion in the game as to the asymmetric look of most of the ships and how many of the ships looked like junk back during those times. IIRC someone in the art department said that most ships were like that because of limitations at the time they were originally made, but that they always wanted to redo all the ships in the game.
Now this is a case of, like another player posted, "neo-phobia" if all the ships looked like the redesigns they show here from day one, and they started to change them into what they look like now you would all be crying bloody murder as well. I am still waiting for the day of the badass Thorax redesign (pls ) |
Baljos Arnjak
Dark Praetorian Order
87
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:46:37 -
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I like the new Domi!
The concepts for the Minmatar ships though are a different story. I have a soft spot for Minmatar because they are and will always be my first main's main ship type. The Stiletto is too flat and wings too square, the Probe looks exactly like the Reaper, and every one of the Thrasher concepts are just bad. I always liked that the Thrasher looked like a pocket version of the Cyclone, don't change this! |
Milton Middleson
Scrap Metal Squadron
572
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:52:15 -
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Quote:We knew the Thrasher would be controversial - its a really fresh and different design.
It's not that the proposed redesign is a bad model - I certainly wouldn't suggest putting it in the circular file. But it is not as good the current Thrasher model*. I don't mean that as a knock against the artist or artists who designed it. Keep it for another ship. Either another Minmatar destroyer, if one comes out, or use it as an update for a cruiser instead (Rupture, Scythe, or Bellicose are all options).
*The current Thrasher model could stand some touch ups, but the underlying design is one of the best in the game. It looks dangerous, and it looks minimalist and no-frills without looking jury-rigged. Plus, it's arguably only slightly less iconic than the Rifter. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
3660
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Posted - 2015.06.19 20:17:16 -
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I'd vote for Trasher redesign versions D, E and J.
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SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
311
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Posted - 2015.06.19 20:18:30 -
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CCP Jorg wrote:Hello everyone and thanx for your thoughts and input.
We knew the Thrasher would be controversial - its a really fresh and different design.
Keep in mind these are all still WIP and that-¦s perhaps a key point to take from this dev blog. We are showing you designs at a pretty early stage and looking for feedback.
Also, we thought giving everyone a little inside into our workflow, seeing early sketches etc would be fun to do.
Perhaps it has been mentioned before and I missed it, but here goes:
What is the art teams thoughts on redesigns and allowing classic hulls to stay in the form of skins? Sure we have paint jobs, but there is an obvious desire for classic looks as well as new. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I admit I don't know much about the workload in maintaining multiple hull versions of the same ship. Especially when you consider we are talking hundreds in the EVE universe.
Your thoughts?
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
31931
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:12:19 -
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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
230
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:22:42 -
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Welcome, CCP J+¦rg.
People sure do get attached to their favorites, don't they? I like the new Thrasher possibilities, but I fly them only rarely. I'd possibly be quite upset if it was one of my favorites getting such a comprehensive overhaul.
If the server database and client installs could handle it, I think it'd be a worthwhile addition to the EVE universe to have ship versions. So the new Thrasher - it'd be the "Thrasher YC117". Those who like their "Thrasher YC116" versions would still be able to fly them - but wouldn't be able to purchase or manufacture any new ones. Upon announcement of the YC117 version, market PvPers would have additional content opportunities. And after release, owners of the older version would have sandbox opportunities of either flying and losing their vintage ships, or hoarding them as collectors, or holding them as investments for later sale.
Do this for both graphic model changes and stat changes.
Can you imagine the market there'd be right now for non-nerfed Ishtars if they were still around? They wouldn't be OP since they'd be subject to destruction if used during combat, and market conditions would make their value very high for those who could afford to use them. Given enough time, and there'd be only a single Ishtar YC116 left in the whole game...
Possible concerns... Rampant growth of the shared cache size for the clients. The market browser could get cluttered, but a simple settings toggle of "Show only current model ships" would eliminate display vintage ships. While assembled and package ships would be untouched by new ship versions, BPOs and BPCs of such ships would still have to be changed over, in order to prevent the older versions from being constructed.
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Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1968
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:27:16 -
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Domi, fantastic, get on with it.
Stilletto, brilliant - prioritise that!
Probe, much better. Personally prefer more symmetry but that looks relatively balanced asymmetry which is an art form in itself - unlike the awful reaper.
Thrasher concepts, E, I, K are excellent. Suggested design is really great, maybe you should look again at the talwar?
Thrasher variations, B is the winner, probably should use this for the base thrasher model as it look old school. Use EIK variations to develop the Sabre variant, or use the model you've posted??
Love the new direction for Minmatar ships. Can't wait to see what you do with the Rupture.
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Hal Morsh
Aliastra Gallente Federation
318
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:38:36 -
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The dominix still looks like a giant turd. I LOVE IT!!!!!
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Sven Viko VIkolander
Friends and Feminists
352
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:46:39 -
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Hey Art team, I want you folks to know that you have been doing amazing work over the past year, far more productive than any other team it seems. You are the MVPs of the past year, and the game is 100x more beautiful than ever thanks to you! I hope you manage to keep it up for the next year!
On the designs, the dominix is nice but tbh would be hard to make worse than it currently is. The new stilleto and probe concepts are 100% awesome, but the thrasher does feel a little too different. The thrasher is one of the most iconic destroyers, but the new concept art does not seem to preserve the "look" of the thrasher to me. I think there might just be too many "nubs" on all of the thrasher concepts that make it a bit too much of a visual overload. |
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John Frohike
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.19 22:01:42 -
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Sweet new designs as always, and congrats on the promotion! |
Euclid Motorhead
Kiwis In Space The Asylum.
12
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Posted - 2015.06.19 22:14:55 -
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New Domi: don't care.
Scroll down, sharp intake of breath...
New stiletto look fantastic!
New probe is nice.
Ruh-oh... not the thrasher! where is the face? where is the little goatee beard on the front? It kind of looks like the jackdaw and the confessor... is there only one right way to model a ship now?
The thrasher change would be a shock to the system and take some getting used to but seriously, gimme the new stiletto as fast as you can! |
Darkblad
Hilf Dir selbst in EVE
1009
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Posted - 2015.06.19 22:45:00 -
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As of now, the Thrasher Ideas still resemble a shortened Jackdaw, with some wingy bits glue to some spots. The somewhat unique feeling of "Somehow, all of this holds together, can't tell why" is pretty much gone.
Will take a closer look later.
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Rio Bravo
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
56
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Posted - 2015.06.19 22:50:47 -
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The Domi always felt like I was flying around in a 45 gallon drum....Now it's been chopped, and turned into a space ship hot rod! Very sexy! Being as vain as I am, I could never stomach being seen in a ship that didn't go with my look...The 'New' Dominix is a ship I WANT to be seen in!
Kudos on the other ship designs too. Will for sure be buying a Domi for the release in August...might get the Interbus skin for it too! Also doubles as a Super-Duty level IV mining mission gas miner...When I get bored of null.
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Samillian
Angry Mustellid The Periphery
849
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Posted - 2015.06.20 00:04:31 -
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Really like what your doing with these hulls with the exception of the Thrasher which is an iconic hull that does not need changing.
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Ben Cromwell
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.20 00:06:53 -
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The new Slasher/Stiletto and Thrasher/Sabre look incredible! I don't post on these forums but maybe once a year but you deserve a round of applause for those new models.
Oh yeah and the Dominix looks great as well but i was just blown away by the new Minmatar models.
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Galphii
Oberon Incorporated Get Off My Lawn
312
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Posted - 2015.06.20 00:11:51 -
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Dominix redesign is definitely an improvement. 8/10
Thrasher is a very bold change, I like it! 9/10
I was flying a slasher recently and though to myself 'they really need to redo this model'. Good to see the Stiletto getting a treatment and I hope the slasher gets a similar model. 8/10
The probe is very similar to the original, just more detailed. Okay I guess? 6/10
Keep up the good work :)
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Ben Cromwell
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2015.06.20 00:21:30 -
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Oh yeah also if you are asking my opinion (you werent)
I don't have enough bad things to say about the bantam
Please make the wings on the raven/golem the same length on each side
The hyperion...the engine placement bothers me. Those engines would get shot full of holes.
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Hal Morsh
Aliastra Gallente Federation
318
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Posted - 2015.06.20 00:44:33 -
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Darkblad wrote:As of now, the Thrasher Ideas still resemble a shortened Jackdaw, with some wingy bits glue to some spots. The somewhat unique feeling of "Somehow, all of this holds together, can't tell why" is pretty much gone.
Will take a closer look later.
New Minmatar designs are supposed to look like flying circuit boards. It means they are advancing.
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Sylveria Relden
87
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Posted - 2015.06.20 00:57:43 -
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New Domi design finally??? Shut up and take my plex!
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
1527
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Posted - 2015.06.20 01:07:55 -
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Though we didn't get to work with each other that long, I'll sure miss CCP Huskarl, but CCP J+¦rg is a total pro and it's tremendously inspiring to see how hard he's working to make the art director role his own.
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Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony
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Posted - 2015.06.20 01:26:59 -
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Dominix is still the recognizable potato so that's good.
Probe ... is acceptable. Stiletto is nice - something of a crossbreed between a Breacher and a Firetail - provided we can keep the old Slasher design around.
BUT MY THRASHER!? Whyyy?? Let's make a deal here. Introduce a T2 EWAR Destroyer for the new model and keep the T1 Thrasher as is xD |
Alain Colcer
Agiolet Security and Logistics
139
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Posted - 2015.06.20 01:34:59 -
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Menero Orti wrote:Yeah the Imicus/Helios REALLY needs a new design
and the navitas
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Raven Carci
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2015.06.20 01:45:02 -
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Oh lord not the thrasher |
Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
59
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Posted - 2015.06.20 03:01:03 -
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I think I love the new Dominix as much as I hate the old one. Which says great things about the guy who made that new design as the change is pretty subtle with huge effect.
Stiletto and Probe both look great. (And for those who are worried about the Probe loosing it's sail for some weird structure... If you check the side view it's still sail... But it's like Dual-Sail with a support structure... I like it)
As for the Thrasher ... I really hate the promoted version... when I first saw it I immediately saw this. I just hate that and have to agree with others that it looks too much like Caldari ship with some fins slapped on it.
If you have to go thru with this make it like the B version in the variation exploration... at least that one has a hint of the original ship, which I think is really important (look at the Domi). And the F version for Sabre.
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Rio Bravo
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.06.20 03:35:32 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Though we didn't get to work with each other that long, I'll sure miss CCP Huskarl, but CCP J+¦rg is a total pro and it's tremendously inspiring to see how hard he's working to make the art director role his own.
Yeah. From what Ive seen, got to say theres definite talent at work here.
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3328
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Posted - 2015.06.20 04:21:29 -
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i like all of the new designs. good job!
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Nomistrav
Aliastra Gallente Federation
316
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Posted - 2015.06.20 04:33:21 -
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Honestly this would be a golden opportunity to open up the art direction a bit more toward community feedback. The Caracal/Cerberus, honestly, was probably the first time the community's feedback actually weighed in on an official art direction at... well, any point.
I'd personally like to see feedback opened up much sooner on the art direction, maybe even including sketches and what not. It is sort of a bummer to see a design/re-design go into the pipeline at the technical/3D level and then our feedback isn't valued as much because we can only influence minor changes, whereas earlier on the community as a whole could have thought that a particular style was more "Eve-like".
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Aleczi Volikov
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.06.20 06:36:54 -
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http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67315/1/75_THRASHER_VARIANTS.jpg
B is the only design here that I like for the Thrasher. The leading concept is too much of a departure, for many of the reasons stated already by others. To me, it just doesn't look like a fighting ship. The aggressive hull, the forward facing gills, the built-for-speed-and-guns look are all gone :(
I think the only things you've kept of the Thrasher are the things that I wouldn't have cared to see go. Give back it's nose, flip the panels around so they point the right way and fill out that weird tacked-on engine setup and we're in business.
The Stiletto looks like a drone, the domi looks no different (if you were going to have a radical departure, imho this is where it should've been), and the Jackdaw is kind of awesome, though looks more like a terrestrial flying machine than a space-faring vessel! |
John Lawyer
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.20 07:07:52 -
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As for minne ships - sharp'n pointy elements makes them similar to caldari and/or ewar stuff (spaiii... :)) It looks like Jackdaw for me now!
Please, keep Thrasher's face! I like concept how this little dragon evolves through Stabber into Vagabond.
P.S.: Thrasher has the highest alpha in a game in small ship class (after svip, whoose is slightly bigger). And design should reflect it. Just think about ~2k volley flying towards you every ~5 seconds! Its form should speak loudly - "dont f***k with me"! Its form should be uncompromised and brutal (like scandinavian black metal).
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