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Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
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Posted - 2011.12.06 22:58:00 -
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to all the butt hurt nullers sitting in high sec and crying. get your ass over to WH space and fight something
Thanks CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Juju x
Original Black Plague
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Posted - 2011.12.06 23:06:00 -
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ebb and flow...
look it up |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2011.12.06 23:08:00 -
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Even on Eve-o Forums, I have come accross such incoherent nonsense very rarely.
You must be ex-NC - reminds me of their theories on the Fukushima tsunamis impact on RMT and its influence on the decline of their fagot-empire...
Gingas2552 wrote: But when this is finally done, when virtually all of 0.0 is under one principle influence, what of CCP? Normally I would be blasting CCP for letting this actually happen, but sincerely it was no fault of thereGÇÖs.
It's their fault. Yes - Eve is a sandbox, but CCP creates the environment where AFK moongoo wastelands with occasional botting renter-alliances, donut-bluelists and occasional blobs are the most effective way to hold sov. morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |
ACESsiggy
VC Academy
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Posted - 2011.12.06 23:11:00 -
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Stopped reading after RL millionaires comment. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.06 23:18:00 -
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Op's Eve life is sooooo sad.
Cry me a river. |
Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.06 23:19:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:TL;DR? Take your Ritalin, hon.
All the DRF has done is recognize what apparently a lot of the rest of the players didn't. BoB, that held sway this way for so long was in the end a paper tiger. They really didn't have the people to hold the territory they claimed. After finally realizing this, and sorta late in the game, a loose alliance was thrown together to demonstrate this fact. As such things go, it's easier to knock the bully off the various hills than to occupy the hills themselves.
To put it another way, the purpose of this alliance was only to boot BoB. Once that was done, their purpose was served and they didn't have the vision to take the next step...or they just didn't want to. The way being cleared, it was left up to whomever had the wherewithal and desire to go ahead and reoccupy what BoB once held. DRF has apparently done this. I'm not very happy that you can take RL money and buy success in this game...that fact alone puts CCP and the players on different and opposing sides in all this, but that's another story.
0.0 is very much there for the taking...until someone takes it. It is likely DRF doesn't have the online manpower to actually hold what they claim, anymore than BoB did. Eventually, a group of alliances will realize this, throw together another group, and slice and dice their ways to glory...again.
Who knows? Maybe even Goonswamp can at last put THEIR money where their MOUTHS are and show us how extremely uber they are all on their own...but yeah...they're in reality DRF flunkies....scratch that idiotic thought.
It's still an open game. It'll take what EVE has difficulty ginning-up, but that has more to do with the character (or lack thereof) of the players more than anything else. However, DRF is too a paper tiger. If they hold as much map as the OP claims, they're over extended as was BoB and ripe for the taking.
The question is WHO? The further question is, when whomever it turns out to be does the deed will they repeat the same mistake, The Great American Blunderbuss, and leave to go do some digital nailbiting before the job is done.
Conquest has always been easier than control. It's a sword with two edges.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.12.06 23:27:00 -
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Wait...Goonswarm actually earning something instead of just having it handed to them on a silver platter?
Huh...there's a thought... Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2011.12.06 23:35:00 -
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I suspect there is a grain of truth to the stagnation. It would be why the null people are pushing for changes to force high sec players out there. They are bored and want fresh easy new targets to shoot at. Ideas and stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. |
Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.06 23:35:00 -
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Look what happened when the Romans "won" Europe. It lasted for a while then it all fell apart again. Swings and roundabouts. |
Candie Bottom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.06 23:39:00 -
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Being a long term member of PL, I can testify, some of what this guy says is true. Many of us ole timers, just havenGÇÖt been logging on any more, Mostly because of this. The old PL has been in fact dead for a while now. Oh yea, hey Fu** Nuts. We use secret alts for Sh*t like this, because we really donGÇÖt want the political fall out. I think even a simpleton like you can figure that out. I never signed up do to this kind of thing, thatGÇÖs why quite a few are planning to leave. |
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Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
231
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Posted - 2011.12.06 23:44:00 -
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Breaking news: three legged tables are a perfect model for long-term stability. I live, I post, I slay. I am content.
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.06 23:45:00 -
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Why is this considered a problem? Seems like natural evolution to me. Sooner or later it will implode, which is also natural. |
vlrqsdrrgtt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.07 00:03:00 -
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I agree with the Op. Not in detail though.
Today we have 2 restrictions, which unite the whole 0.0 space.
1) This time the motivation of the 2 supercoalitions is stable. The keywords are "Technetium" and "renters" Or in one word: ISK. As long as CCP will not change this, they will not fight each other. They will continue to do, what humans do. They prefer to fill their pockets instead of competition. War at home is bad for business, too much competition is bad for business.
2) all the former socalled PVP alliances, who were pretending small pvp would be so much better and NC would be all the evil, got corrupted into helping the DRF block. Only very few really do not care like Rooks&Kings, Hydra or Black Legion. Today everybody else, who used to fight the NC, is corrupted by the DRF.
basically we have 3 big blocks:
1) Goons/Test/FA = CFC
2) DRF core = Drone Region alliances XIX, Solar, RA. RA is not just Drone regions. They control regions up to Stain/Tenerifis/Feyntabolis. And we have Non-Russian friends of them, also called DRF. Corrupted former "PVP" alliances, which reformed: NC. Raiden, PL and WN, who hold the territory of the former Northern Coalition. RA holds btw. the territory of another former big player: Atlas. The DRF bought these as Mercs, gave them space. If you talk with them, they will tell you, they will not reset any of their buddies in near future. Even Ev0ke, who went their own way from Pure Blind to Delve still get help from DRF sub alliances vs CFC, which can only mean, they are still DRF.
3) AAA/Stainwaggon/Cascade. This group is very chaotic. They have neither Tech nor as many renters as XIX or RA have. They can muster all together impressing fleets. But it is by far not enough. They are just relicts from the past in a place of the Eve universe, which had the luck to be most far away from Goons or DRF and has nothing to give, compared to the Tech in the North.
We all know, there is a NIP (Non Invasion Pact) between Goons and DRF. We see the facts every day. It does not matter, whatever Goon and DRF bosses pretned. The facts can be seen every day. No big war in the North. Same reason, why nobody resets anybody with in the DRF coalition for real: war at home is bad for business.
So only AAA/Stainwaggon could bring the change or resets. Resets will not happen, because ISK/No Risk PVP > Risk PVP. AAA/Stainwaggon are not strong enough to change anything. As soon as they bring some of their neighbour alliances from the DRF coaltion in trouble, DRF can call in whatever reinforcement alliances, they want. From Branch to Delve. PL, the alliance with most Super capital pilots in the game, recently started to play merc for DRF again. The fact, they killed some DRF pilots also, does not change anything. They killed the AAA/Stain fleet first. They did not risk any trouble for their Tech moons by doing that. They helped their brosefs from DRF more with it.
Today we have the same situation like we had it before with the old Northern Coalition. There is no PVP in North. Instead Northern alliances come to the South and attack the last remaining groups, who are not in one of the 2 big blocks. In opposite to the situation "old NC" this time it is on a scale, which is much more serious. The old NC just made some roaming gangs in South. Sometimes conquered something, but could never hold it. The attack on IT alliances and their coalition was unique. Today it is different.
There has never been any coalition, which:
- claimed as many 0.0 systems - claimed as many regions - had as many pets - had as many alliance members - had as many Supercapitals
(Check dotlan and find more)
as DRF and so on. It is not just by a few more. The numbers exploded. There has never been an 8k renter alliance, not anything close. There has never been that many Supers in the game as before. There will be nothing and nobody come out of nowhere and stop this. It is, what it is. It is all blue to each other and corrupted.
tl:dr
Unless the DRF reset each other or CCP hammers the status quo of 0.0 by nerfing Tech/renters/Sov, just resets the whole 0.0, it will stay stale. DRF bosses and carebears live very good with the status quo. Goons live also very good with the NIP. Both still find some last survivors of former enemies. They will always find them. And if not, suicide gank some Empire dudes or why not spank some FW noobs? But the big thrill is gone.
The craziest part of it is this: today the mass battles in 0.0 battles are smaller than they were 2 years ago, though all the statistical numbers about the strenth of the 2 remaing big coalitions exploded. That says a lot about the state of the game, combined with falling subscriptions. I had the hope, the patch might change something. What did it change for real? CCP did just, what they always do. CCP implimented some new features, bugs and lag, which keep players busy for a couple days or weeks, until they adapted the new sandbox mechanisms and see the wall. More and more will realize, the wall just came closer than ever. But what did they change in the whole picture? Nothing.
It is over Lebowski. |
Baden Luskan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.07 00:16:00 -
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Gingas2552 wrote:Without going into a bunch of political jargon, the brief story is this. Last winter there was a war between the DRF, and the former N.C.. Basically the two forces were pretty evenly matched, but then a couple of real life millionaires, infused real life cash into the game during the war on behalf of the DRF. After this the DRF formed alliances with the likes of GÇ£White NoiseGÇ¥, the newly formed GÇ£NC.GÇ¥, GÇ£RaidenGÇ¥, as well as the all too famous, GÇ£Pandemic LegionGÇ¥. Once this alliance was formed, the former Northern Coalition was easily defeated, and disbanded. The Goon Swarm, and Test Alliance, idly stood by, as these factions were already close friends of the DRF.
Seeing as you glossed over osme importanat details, I will go over them.
The old Northern Coalation did not even put up a fight. They could not be arsed to show up to defend your own space. show up.
I dont know what turnip truck you fell out of before you wronte this, but I am thinking now may be a good time to go find it and hop back on it. Your opinion is not only uninformed, but very short-sighted.
Definatly seems someone was kept in the dark and fed alot of, well, you know... |
Petrus Blackshell
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
58
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Posted - 2011.12.07 00:17:00 -
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vlrqsdrrgtt wrote: --stuff and things--
ITT someone takes doomsday "Eve is dead" cries seriously. CCP can and has borked all of 0.0 sov with an expansion before, and they can again if they want to.
Don't claim you've seen all the effects of Crucible yet. As a trusted insider from CFC just now told me, "tomorrow... the ships will blot out the suns".
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vlrqsdrrgtt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.07 00:33:00 -
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CFC want to attack NC. and Raiden? That would be so old news. Then what? Some Tech moons change their owners, maybe. Maybe even a handful of stations. The Southern Coalition will get room to breath.
Will Goons fall? No. Will DRF fall? No.
Will we see a new big player? No. Will we see standings resets within Goons or DRF? No.
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Olleybear
I R' Carebear
10
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Posted - 2011.12.07 00:33:00 -
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Gingas2552 wrote:W Eve itGÇÖs self is about to fall!
Oh noes! Eve is dieing again!
Eve dies every other week but keeps coming back to life.
Seems like Eve is a giant Zombie weeble wobble doesnt it. |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.12.07 01:10:00 -
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In high sec, you have empires.
By running missions and killing enemies, you can align yourself to an empire and gain standings / loyalty from them.
In null sec, you have empires.
By defending space and killing enemies, you can align yourself with an empire and gain standings / loylty from them.
The difference, high sec empires are much easier to join as you don't have to interact with people.
It's not Rocket Surgery |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
240
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Posted - 2011.12.07 01:15:00 -
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vlrqsdrrgtt wrote: CFC want to attack NC. and Raiden? That would be so old news. Then what? Some Tech moons change their owners, maybe. Maybe even a handful of stations. The Southern Coalition will get room to breath.
Will Goons fall? No. Will DRF fall? No.
Will we see a new big player? No. Will we see standings resets within Goons or DRF? No.
DRF have already reset each other. Just because they're Russian, does not mean they all like each other. It's quite the contrary.
Will you see a new big player? Probably yes, there's a lot shaking up in the policical landscape of null sec. Just because there aren't ships being blown up, don't think for a second that the wars of words aren't being fought vigorously though Jabber/IRC channels.
It's not Rocket Surgery |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
270
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Posted - 2011.12.07 01:29:00 -
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Let all ships to dialed in point to point warp, "Star Trek style", and anybody can go anywhere, and it won't matter who did what, there's gonna be competition.
If you have a tennis court in your backyard, you can pick up a racket, put on your shorts, and hit the ball in minutes.
If you have to drive three hours and then negotiate and argue for court time, you won't play tennis.
"Getting out" to 0.0 is the problem. There is a Great Wall of Carebear with bears on BOTH sides. Who would have known that it would turn out this way? So in 0.0 it looks like a big NAPfest and the only "sides" are them and us (depending on what side but the words are the same).
It's highsec dwellers and null dwellers - casual players versus basement-dwelling neckbeards who can't tell the difference between alliance politics and RL politics.
Break the wall down, let both sides clash, and there will be....... (brace yourselves you 0.0 dwellers you might have forgotten this)
fun!
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Tore Vest
Vikinghall
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Posted - 2011.12.07 01:33:00 -
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Interesting times ahead... After those latest buffs and nerfs.... My money are on goonswarm. But... Maby CCP didnt nerf supers enough |
XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
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Posted - 2011.12.07 01:34:00 -
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Boredom will fix it, boredom brings drama, drama brings fail cascades. It matters not how big you are or how much you are napped, entropy always finds a way to rule the day. The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times.
One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear. |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
232
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Posted - 2011.12.07 01:34:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Let all ships to dialed in point to point warp, "Star Trek style", and anybody can go anywhere, and it won't matter who did what, there's gonna be competition.
Man is is just me of have you posted this exact opening phrase (if not post) a hundred times?
Everytime I read this, I'm like: **** I just went back in time a few weeks. Now I have to attend all those classes again to preserve the spacetime continuum.
Then, I hit reply and write:
That's a bad idea because without gates, we would NEVER SEE ANYONE ANYMORE. I live, I post, I slay. I am content.
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Ocih
Space Mermaids
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Posted - 2011.12.07 01:46:00 -
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There are no frontiers in New Eden, just 3rd world politics.
When the Jove come you will have no faith and you will be cleansed. They will not be bribed by your ISK, they will not fear your metal beasts, they will not respect your sentient right. Judgement day is close at hand.
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Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
232
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Posted - 2011.12.07 02:00:00 -
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Ocih wrote:There are no frontiers in New Eden, just 3rd world politics.
When the Jove come you will have no faith and you will be cleansed. They will not be bribed by your ISK, they will not fear your metal beasts, they will not respect your sentient right. Judgement day is close at hand.
Oh look roleplaying I live, I post, I slay. I am content.
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Tar Omrir
Cygnus Industries New Eden's Industrial Alliance
2
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Posted - 2011.12.07 02:57:00 -
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Rargh! Goons get off ure mining ass! PL stick ure super cap fleet up DRF's butt, that is what needs to happen. Oh and in the OP it says PL was made by DRF. Ure a ************ to think such dirty, lying thoughts!!! |
Handsome Hussein
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Posted - 2011.12.07 03:01:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Let all ships to dialed in point to point warp, "Star Trek style", and anybody can go anywhere, and it won't matter who did what, there's gonna be competition.
Man is is just me of have you posted this exact opening phrase (if not post) a hundred times? Everytime I read this, I'm like: **** I just went back in time a few weeks. Now I have to attend all those classes again to preserve the spacetime continuum. Then, I hit reply and write: That's a bad idea because without gates, we would NEVER SEE ANYONE ANYMORE. QFT BEFORE CRUCIBLE EVE WAS ON CRUISE CONTROL. After Crucible EVE didn't need cruise control. |
Ron Bacardi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.12.07 03:10:00 -
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Gingas2552 wrote: I can give you a simple fix, Ban GÇ£Pandemic LegionGÇ¥ for 6 months or more. LOL. This would in fact fix this, in the short term. But we all know this wouldnGÇÖt be possible.
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Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
232
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Posted - 2011.12.07 03:12:00 -
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Handsome ******* wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Let all ships to dialed in point to point warp, "Star Trek style", and anybody can go anywhere, and it won't matter who did what, there's gonna be competition.
Man is is just me of have you posted this exact opening phrase (if not post) a hundred times? Everytime I read this, I'm like: **** I just went back in time a few weeks. Now I have to attend all those classes again to preserve the spacetime continuum. Then, I hit reply and write: That's a bad idea because without gates, we would NEVER SEE ANYONE ANYMORE. QFT
You know Handsome ******* sometimes I feel like we would make a great forum (anti?)hero team.
It pains me to know that you're probably a forum alt. We could have been bros if the circumstances had been different.
Also your name is unquotable. Are you a vampire? I live, I post, I slay. I am content.
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Gevlin
SMANews.net SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.07 03:34:00 -
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Once 1 Block takes over.. that block will break into several block.
it is human nature to take down the top dog....... I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |
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