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0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2015.06.09 14:32:37 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:I think the best way to get to get an answer from CCP, is not to ask here. From my experience, asking questions like this in this forum only produce a crapload of answers that only pollute the post. Some(or manny...or most lol) of the Forumusers have a set of rules, 1, Get the post closed. 2. make jokes, then get the post closed. 3. Insult the OP, then get the post closed.
Send in a ticket, ull get answers from staff that have no clue what to say, so insist on getting it bumped up until u get a reply from someone that actually might have a Clue... but dont get ur hopes up, this will take a long time.
Ummm... I still fail to see any problem here from CCP-¦s part, they have always set prices for each different currency how they see those people are able to pay.
Maybe Norway-¦s currency is now getting a hit, as CCP is receiving less in Russian rubles?
EDIT: 20 euro is only two beers at a bar in Norway. |
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries Fortis Et Certus
194
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Posted - 2015.06.09 14:41:59 -
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0bama Barack ******* wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:I think the best way to get to get an answer from CCP, is not to ask here. From my experience, asking questions like this in this forum only produce a crapload of answers that only pollute the post. Some(or manny...or most lol) of the Forumusers have a set of rules, 1, Get the post closed. 2. make jokes, then get the post closed. 3. Insult the OP, then get the post closed.
Send in a ticket, ull get answers from staff that have no clue what to say, so insist on getting it bumped up until u get a reply from someone that actually might have a Clue... but dont get ur hopes up, this will take a long time.
Ummm... I still fail to see any problem here from CCP-¦s part, they have always set prices for each different currency how they see those people are able to pay. Maybe Norway-¦s currency is now getting a hit, as CCP is receiving less in Russian rubles?
Well it might be an idea for CCP to adjust their subs prices out from the currency value and adjust With the fluxuations. But increasing the prices will only make players stop buying subs.... but again, it has allready happend and it might be a planned move from CCP to increase pricing to make up the loss from lost subs. People have been leaving EVE in much higher grade than few years ago and the playerbase is shrinking.
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Master Kent'sslave
Unforeseen Consequences. Triumvirate.
11
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Posted - 2015.06.09 14:47:24 -
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The whole point here is that they claim there is a VAT that they have to start paying on july 1th. but ecept for there havent been any changes at all since JULY 1th 2011
4 years ago
http://www.voesnorway.com/
and when i ask them for documentation then i get answers like "we can assure you" and no documentation of it So their lying to us. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11297
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Posted - 2015.06.09 14:51:54 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:The whole point here is that they claim there is a VAT that they have to start paying on july 1th. but ecept for there havent been any changes at all since JULY 1th 2011 4 years ago http://www.voesnorway.com/ and when i ask them for documentation then i get answers like "we can assure you" and no documentation of it So their lying to us.
If you believe that nonsense, then unsub. No one owes you a video game.
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Master Kent'sslave
Unforeseen Consequences. Triumvirate.
11
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Posted - 2015.06.09 15:04:54 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:The whole point here is that they claim there is a VAT that they have to start paying on july 1th. but ecept for there havent been any changes at all since JULY 1th 2011 4 years ago http://www.voesnorway.com/ and when i ask them for documentation then i get answers like "we can assure you" and no documentation of it So their lying to us. If you believe that nonsense, then unsub. No one owes you a video game.
owe me? not saying that ccp owe me anything. i am saying that as an professional company they shouldnt lie to their customers. if they increase if for some other reason then tell the real reason |
0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2015.06.09 15:13:16 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:
owe me? not saying that ccp owe me anything. i am saying that as an professional company they shouldnt lie to their customers. if they increase if for some other reason then tell the real reason
It were a nice gesture for Frontier Developments to include backers home cities into Earth of ED.
I wonder when CCP will get to the point when they try to make some similar effort to please their customers. |
Lyria Ghost
Stead Logistics
6
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Posted - 2015.06.09 15:23:49 -
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An increase from 15 euros to 20 euros is NOT a 50% increase, not at all. It's a 33% increase. Calling a 33% increase a 50% increase is worse than calling 20 euros equal to 15 euros (50/30= 1,66; so a 66% increase, while 20/15=1,33 is a 33% increase). Since even with a 66% difference things still equal to you we can deduct that you shouldn't be able to tell a difference when it's only a 33% increase.
So with your math skills I guess you don't have any problem since your subscription didn't change then. You should only notice a difference when it's an increase by at least 66%. |
Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
223
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Posted - 2015.06.09 15:29:19 -
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Lyria Ghost wrote:An increase from 15 euros to 20 euros is NOT a 50% increase, not at all. It's a 33% increase. Calling a 33% increase a 50% increase is worse than calling 20 euros equal to 15 euros (50/30= 1,66; so a 66% increase, while 20/15=1,33 is a 33% increase). Since even with a 66% difference things still equal to you we can deduct that you shouldn't be able to tell a difference when it's only a 33% increase.
So with your math skills I guess you don't have any problem since your subscription didn't change then. You should only notice a difference when it's an increase by at least 66%. So please stop the whining until a subscription costs you 25 euros You just had to say that, right?
I survived Win95
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0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2015.06.09 15:33:28 -
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This topic should have a notice at beginning that EvE has cost already for years for both US (dollar) and EU (euro) player both 15 units of their currency, no matter even bigger fluxuations between them. Guess they were monitoring purchase power of the currency.
I dont believe EvE has ever cost for a Russian 15 dollars or euro-¦s, but "15 of their units".
It is just how things work, Norwaegian can have with that 20 euro about the same as a Finn with 10 euro.
And people from Finland pay 15 euro mont, so in a way, actually more than Norwegians who pay 20 euro.
Get it.
Purchasing power.
Too bad for (very) poor of Norway, though. |
Master Kent'sslave
Unforeseen Consequences. Triumvirate.
11
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Posted - 2015.06.09 15:38:25 -
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Lyria Ghost wrote:An increase from 15 euros to 20 euros is NOT a 50% increase, not at all. It's a 33% increase. Calling a 33% increase a 50% increase is worse than calling 20 euros equal to 15 euros (50/30= 1,66; so a 66% increase, while 20/15=1,33 is a 33% increase). Since even with a 66% difference things still equal to you we can deduct that you shouldn't be able to tell a difference when it's only a 33% increase.
So with your math skills I guess you don't have any problem since your subscription didn't change then. You should only notice a difference when it's an increase by at least 66%. So please stop the whining until a subscription costs you 25 euros
To day we pay 14.95 DOLLAR (= 123NOK) and they want to charge us 19.90 EUROS ( = 184NOK)
An increase from 123NOK to 184NOK = 61NOK witch is 49.xx %
NOK is the norwegian currency |
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DaReaper
Net 7
2180
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Posted - 2015.06.09 16:16:27 -
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Snagletooth Johnson wrote:DaReaper wrote:McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Removed a political statement. Aww. I was just about to try and turn this into a debate on the pros and cons of socialism. I even brought my socialist retardant coat in expectation of the inevitable commie tear storm. I'll just move along then. This evenings entertainment has been ruined. commies =! socialist Ive never met a communists who wouldn't openly admit he's a communist Ive never met a socialist that would openly admit their a socialist.
You just did.
Hi, my name is justin and i am a socialist.
I believe regulation of business helps keep them honest and enables compition. I believe higher taxe son business forces them to reinvest in themselves and not give ceo's and exeuctives bounus' while screwing workers.
I am NOT a communist. I do NOT believe the gov should issue quota's to business in what they cna and can not produce and how much, nor do a i believe in everyone being paid the same, nor do i believe in full gov control of prices and industry.
I am a socalist, Gov should regulate business, becuase Capitalism and Communism, when left in there purest forms fail due to human greed.
there, you just met a socialist.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2015.06.09 16:22:11 -
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DaReaper wrote:Snagletooth Johnson wrote:DaReaper wrote:McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Removed a political statement. Aww. I was just about to try and turn this into a debate on the pros and cons of socialism. I even brought my socialist retardant coat in expectation of the inevitable commie tear storm. I'll just move along then. This evenings entertainment has been ruined. commies =! socialist Ive never met a communists who wouldn't openly admit he's a communist Ive never met a socialist that would openly admit their a socialist. You just did. Hi, my name is justin and i am a socialist. I believe regulation of business helps keep them honest and enables compition. I believe higher taxe son business forces them to reinvest in themselves and not give ceo's and exeuctives bounus' while screwing workers. I am NOT a communist. I do NOT believe the gov should issue quota's to business in what they cna and can not produce and how much, nor do a i believe in everyone being paid the same, nor do i believe in full gov control of prices and industry. I am a socalist, Gov should regulate business, becuase Capitalism and Communism, when left in there purest forms fail due to human greed. there, you just met a socialist.
I know you mean well and are totally right, but believe me, internet has conversion rate of 10% and dislike rate of 90% on any subject people read about. |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1681
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Posted - 2015.06.09 16:32:34 -
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0bama Barack ******* wrote: Maybe Norway-¦s currency is now getting a hit, as CCP is receiving less in Russian rubles?
technically CCP gets MORE of RUssian RUBles. But they get less converted to dollars. back in March of 2014 i have paid 3499 RUB for 12 month which was about 97 dollars (36 RUB for 1 dollar). Now they ask me to pay 4899 RUB. This is 87 dollars (about 56 RUB for one dollar)
So yes, it's possible that they are trying to rebalance income
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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DaReaper
Net 7
2182
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Posted - 2015.06.09 16:35:25 -
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0bama Barack ******* wrote:
I know you mean well and are totally right, but believe me, internet has conversion rate of 10% and dislike rate of 90% on any subject people read about.
I'm just saying, a communist is not a socialist. Learn the difference. Yes the USSR and China bastardidzed the term. an economic Socialist believe that if the economy is a river, that you need regulation to be sure the river doens;t flood and destory the houses, or dry up and everyone dies.
where as a communist will lock up all the water and only send down a cretin amount each year, they basicly build a dam
and a capitalist.. well, its a damn river let it flow.
We may not agree on monetary policy, but use the correct term when discussing issues. And if you are an american you do realize we are a socialist country right? Try wrapping your head around that idea =)
ISD: yea reai life politics, feel free to delete my post if i crossed over a line, thanks.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2015.06.09 16:39:43 -
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DaReaper wrote:0bama Barack ******* wrote:
I know you mean well and are totally right, but believe me, internet has conversion rate of 10% and dislike rate of 90% on any subject people read about.
I'm just saying, a communist is not a socialist. Learn the difference.
I-¦m from Finland, socialist state, all the way back from the era when USSR next to us were communist, into a country that now pretends to be capitalist state to please the "west".
Hell our most right wing party would be counted in the USA left from Democrats. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11301
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Posted - 2015.06.09 16:50:14 -
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March rabbit wrote: let's just hope fanbois like Jenna are not in majority so CCP will not wait until it's too late
I'm sorry, are you not paying for this game as well? If you don't like what CCP is doing, imagine what that makes you for giving them money... |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1681
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Posted - 2015.06.09 16:56:23 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:March rabbit wrote: let's just hope fanbois like Jenna are not in majority so CCP will not wait until it's too late
I'm sorry, are you not paying for this game as well? If you don't like what CCP is doing, imagine what that makes you for giving them money... I'm in process of deciding if i will continue to play or quit. Till now i don't regret about my money given to CCP. Will see if i change my opinion about matter.
That's the difference between us
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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DaReaper
Net 7
2184
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Posted - 2015.06.09 16:58:56 -
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0bama Barack ******* wrote:DaReaper wrote:0bama Barack ******* wrote:
I know you mean well and are totally right, but believe me, internet has conversion rate of 10% and dislike rate of 90% on any subject people read about.
I'm just saying, a communist is not a socialist. Learn the difference. I-¦m from Finland, socialist state, all the way back from the era when USSR next to us were communist, into a country that now pretends to be capitalist state to please the "west". Hell our most right wing party would be counted in the USA left from Democrats.
that would be crazy, whats your left wing party like?
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Master Kent'sslave
Unforeseen Consequences. Triumvirate.
13
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Posted - 2015.06.09 17:12:07 -
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DaReaper wrote:0bama Barack ******* wrote:DaReaper wrote:0bama Barack ******* wrote:
I know you mean well and are totally right, but believe me, internet has conversion rate of 10% and dislike rate of 90% on any subject people read about.
I'm just saying, a communist is not a socialist. Learn the difference. I-¦m from Finland, socialist state, all the way back from the era when USSR next to us were communist, into a country that now pretends to be capitalist state to please the "west". Hell our most right wing party would be counted in the USA left from Democrats. that would be crazy, whats your left wing party like?
prolly just as the left wing in norway SV who want to cut all ties with EU, get rid of our military and leave nato and increase disability pay to the same lvl as a regulare employee |
Reiisha
Repracor Industries
746
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Posted - 2015.06.09 17:12:14 -
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mannyman wrote:What about those who plex their accounts ? Will CCP have to report that to Norwegian authorities as an "income" for that specific person ?
No, because no monetary transactions take place. PLEX are, legally, ingame items once bought and do not represent a real world value. CCP nor you owe taxes for using ingame items :)
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
5707
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Posted - 2015.06.09 18:34:41 -
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Removed some off topic posts.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2015.06.09 18:44:14 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Removed some off topic posts.
Thx, for some reason it always gets out of hands between us socialist Scandinavians and those capitalist pigs. |
Pops Tickle
Tickle Industries
7
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Posted - 2015.06.09 19:07:02 -
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0bama Barack ******* wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:
owe me? not saying that ccp owe me anything. i am saying that as an professional company they shouldnt lie to their customers. if they increase if for some other reason then tell the real reason
It were a nice gesture from Frontier Developments to include backers home cities into Earth of ED. I wonder when CCP will get to the point when they try to make some similar effort to please their customers. m0o corp. They have a system named after them. There is Zephyr, who has a ship named after him. There are others you can find on the market as well! Can you not see it, Mr. *******? They've built a monument with the player's names scratched onto it's surface!
m0o-thread with devposts, google knows more: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=167878
CCP Rise wrote:
"We have tried and tried to validate the myth that griefing has a pronounced affect on new players
- we have failed."
Source
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0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2015.06.09 19:10:45 -
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Pops Tickle wrote:0bama Barack ******* wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:
owe me? not saying that ccp owe me anything. i am saying that as an professional company they shouldnt lie to their customers. if they increase if for some other reason then tell the real reason
It were a nice gesture from Frontier Developments to include backers home cities into Earth of ED. I wonder when CCP will get to the point when they try to make some similar effort to please their customers. m0o corp. They have a system named after them. There is Zephyr, who has a ship named after him. There are others you can find on the market as well! Can you not see it, Mr. *******? They've built a monument with the player's names scratched onto it's surface! m0o-thread with devposts, google knows more: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=167878
Nice, thx, I will check this closer, were obviously totally unaware about all of that... |
Pops Tickle
Tickle Industries
7
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Posted - 2015.06.09 19:40:54 -
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0bama Barack ******* wrote:Pops Tickle wrote:0bama Barack ******* wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:
owe me? not saying that ccp owe me anything. i am saying that as an professional company they shouldnt lie to their customers. if they increase if for some other reason then tell the real reason
It were a nice gesture from Frontier Developments to include backers home cities into Earth of ED. I wonder when CCP will get to the point when they try to make some similar effort to please their customers. m0o corp. They have a system named after them. There is Zephyr, who has a ship named after him. There are others you can find on the market as well! Can you not see it, Mr. *******? They've built a monument with the player's names scratched onto it's surface! m0o-thread with devposts, google knows more: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=167878 Nice, thx, I will check this closer, were obviously totally unaware about all of that... Suddenly aware of the unaware.
CCP Rise wrote:
"We have tried and tried to validate the myth that griefing has a pronounced affect on new players
- we have failed."
Source
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
175
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Posted - 2015.06.09 19:43:43 -
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0bama Barack ******* wrote:Pops Tickle wrote:0bama Barack ******* wrote:Master Kent'sslave wrote:
owe me? not saying that ccp owe me anything. i am saying that as an professional company they shouldnt lie to their customers. if they increase if for some other reason then tell the real reason
It were a nice gesture from Frontier Developments to include backers home cities into Earth of ED. I wonder when CCP will get to the point when they try to make some similar effort to please their customers. m0o corp. They have a system named after them. There is Zephyr, who has a ship named after him. There are others you can find on the market as well! Can you not see it, Mr. *******? They've built a monument with the player's names scratched onto it's surface! m0o-thread with devposts, google knows more: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=167878 Nice, thx, I will check this closer, were obviously totally unaware about all of that... This is from a time when EVE was so horribly unbalanced. CCP were releasing stuff thinking "whatever", silly game mechanics included. |
WhatYouDidThere
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.06.09 19:49:13 -
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If those 5 bux are worth argueing about, there is a high chance you should not spent your time video gaming and rather focus on not starving irl...
#nopoors |
z'kroh
Caldari Fire Demons The Southern Syndicate
2
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Posted - 2015.06.09 19:51:47 -
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Whiners. Join EU and use EUR. |
Osaka Takawaki
Order and Prosperity
1
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Posted - 2015.06.09 20:39:35 -
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I'd rather starve than join the failure of a bureaucracy that the EU is. CCP is just charging us more without giving us any answers, proof, etc. Just because we're richer than most people doesn't mean we should pay more, freakin' commies. |
45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
151
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Posted - 2015.06.10 02:34:19 -
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NBTCCP&ISDLOCK lawl
**You Have to take the good with the bad
and the bad with the good.
Welcome to EvE OnLiNe**
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