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Rio Bravo
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
63
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:48:46 -
[2011] - Quote
Oh right, I remember RGB Sliders...I miss the Jukebox too, now null just moans and groans at me, like its passing a stone or something...
GÇ£You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig.-áI dig.GÇ¥
-á- Clint Eastwood, misquote.
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Natascha Kerenski
SUDDEN STRIKE SOCIETY
69
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:55:12 -
[2012] - Quote
6 hours eve ambient
my jukebox workaround
GÇ£Fighting for peace is like having sex for virginity."
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SamuraiJack
Tritanium Industries and Technology
144
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:56:23 -
[2013] - Quote
Well thats two CSM posters in this thread. I suppose after 100 pages it was about time.
Doesnt really get much hope up for Eve this year if neither CCP or CSM are listening/acting.
/me goes back to playing Steam Sale games instead.
PS i have popcorn ordered for the Sov thread whenever CCP drop that on TQ for "testing" i mean live play...
SJ's Chronicles - http://www.fanfiction.net/u/2103579/CLS-SamuraiJack
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SamuraiJack
Tritanium Industries and Technology
144
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:59:49 -
[2014] - Quote
Maybe the CSM should have a post about what has been achieved last year and what they'd like to achieve this year?
Active issues being discussed etc so we can see if anything is being done. I know prerelease stuff is under NDA but surely that hitlist of issues in eve they want handled should be able to be discussed?
Otherwise you just appear to be sitting on the mountain doing nothing.
Lets hear some news.
Cos when i looked the other day the CSM forums on here havent been touched since "hey CSM has new members"
SJ's Chronicles - http://www.fanfiction.net/u/2103579/CLS-SamuraiJack
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SamuraiJack
Tritanium Industries and Technology
144
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Posted - 2015.06.21 23:01:00 -
[2015] - Quote
Oh and i highly suggest you bitchslap ISD/CCP into making that CSM post appear on the launcher.
You know. Publicity Profile and all?
Given these forums are a cesspool of scum and villainy.
SJ's Chronicles - http://www.fanfiction.net/u/2103579/CLS-SamuraiJack
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Rio Bravo
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
63
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Posted - 2015.06.21 23:13:56 -
[2016] - Quote
It's like I fell in love all over again, Thanks!
GÇ£You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig.-áI dig.GÇ¥
-á- Clint Eastwood, misquote.
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SamuraiJack
Tritanium Industries and Technology
145
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Posted - 2015.06.21 23:26:41 -
[2017] - Quote
http://www.modenstudios.com/EVE/music/
https://soundcloud.com/ccpgames
CCP have annoying habit of posting themes as WAV files. Also their MP3s generally dont have tags.
There is also a huge original client dump of eve music on evefiles
Search http://eve-files.com/ using terms like "soundtrack" or "music" or "sound", etc.
Example: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Xercodo/EVE_In-Game_Soundtrack.zip http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Nu11u5/EVE_Soundtrack-Revelations_1.4_Edition.zip http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Pennwisedom/Eve_Soundtrack%5B1%5D.zip
There is a missing track thou. The original "Akat Mountains" is sadly missing from CCPs Soundcloud.
it is however... here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C_WwNcMizc and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4Kt2vw2XNM
This version appears to be a remake of somekind? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxjyojLPqmc
SJ's Chronicles - http://www.fanfiction.net/u/2103579/CLS-SamuraiJack
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Sgt Ocker
Burning Sky Labs
564
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Posted - 2015.06.21 23:51:29 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:I have been active in the split off thread in regards to the icons as the main general thread is too noisy to make any decent headway in. But here I am.
Yes, the 90% issue needs a fix fast as does the colour blind. Yes I like the logic of the new sets and think it is more in the details of the implemntation that in the change itself.
A lot of the reaction is from people who have almsot automated their responses over the years to tge old ways and object to being asked to learn a new set. IF it is visible (90% and colour) and if it has an internal logic then I am ok with the change
Oh and drones need to look less like ships
GÇïm See if you can talk to them about the default "sort by color of tag and background", it really is a pain when there are 400+ items in your overview and your trying to get ship types together.
All icons need to do is line up correctly in my overview so I can at a glance of the "type" column, pick my next target. (whether he is -5, -10, is mostly irrelevant).
Oh and a way to play with overviews while docked would be a nice addition.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
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Sky Marshal
Core Industry. Circle-Of-Two
55
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Posted - 2015.06.21 23:53:49 -
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Cleanse Serce wrote:3.4.5. This site show nothing at all ABOUT the changes. That's a general downward trend that started before the new release calendar. There is no correlation. Because bad expansions won't have any impact ?
As I said, I think that the bad expansions of 2013 was the start of this negative trend. The new release calendar is a response to the incoming competitors, but as they add bad changes like the destruction of the UI, obviously it will help to maintain this trend downward, and maybe amplify it. |
Circumstantial Evidence
196
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Posted - 2015.06.22 00:05:21 -
[2020] - Quote
SamuraiJack wrote:Maybe the CSM should have a post about what has been achieved last year and what they'd like to achieve this year? Active issues being discussed etc so we can see if anything is being done. [...]Otherwise you just appear to be sitting on the mountain doing nothing. ... CSM Sugar Kyle writes prolifically on her blog - you can go over to her mountain, and even leave polite messages at her doorstep ;)
Sugar Kyle on LowSecLifestyle, 2015-May-31 wrote:Icons will also be changing on Tuesday. I've played with them. I'm not in love with them and I don't find them to be visually more understandable. There is visually more of them and the difference between them is more noticeable than the gradient of red cross size that we have had for so long. I'm up in the air about it. I, however, predict enormous fall out and anger from the player base that does not visit Sisi when they log in on Tuesday and their overview and in space icons are all different. Rollbacks will be demanded. I then predict a lot of random deaths and mistakes in general as people learn the new icons. |
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Cleanse Serce
Lonesome Capsuleer
61
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Posted - 2015.06.22 09:17:33 -
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Circumstantial Evidence wrote: Thanks for sharing this blog. GÖÑ |
haralampijem
Fatal and The rabbit The G0dfathers
22
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Posted - 2015.06.22 09:30:33 -
[2022] - Quote
For me the problem with icons is solved.....I don't play Eve online anymore. |
Dino Zavr
Shadow Owls
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Posted - 2015.06.22 13:13:39 -
[2023] - Quote
Mike Azariah wrote: Like I said. I am still trying to engage both you and CCP on this subject. But I am not the string and tin cans so you can yell at CCP through me. The good news is that I am not running for CSM XI so you have less than a year left of my useless ass and then you will have the full attention of the other CSM . . . .
Hi, Mike
I still hope the issue with new icons set is still on the table, because of theirs rather massive anticipation. It would be great if CSM offer CCP to make icon sets customizable, just because these are just sprites loaded at the client's side, no code or protocols modifications necessary. This sloution will leave most of players happy. Thise who love new icons would use them, those who prefer old icons would be able to use the old ones. This is just that simple.
Overview still needs at least 5 more tabs, and way more foreground/background colors. Also there is a special tread devoted to overview usage for colorblind players, it would be great to convince CCP to proceed with setups for such players in question.
Please, confirm the peaceful conflict resolution is still possible, as the icons issue is not resolved properly yet.
Thanks. |
Cleanse Serce
Lonesome Capsuleer
61
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Posted - 2015.06.22 13:28:18 -
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Dino Zavr wrote:Mike Azariah wrote: Like I said. I am still trying to engage both you and CCP on this subject. But I am not the string and tin cans so you can yell at CCP through me. The good news is that I am not running for CSM XI so you have less than a year left of my useless ass and then you will have the full attention of the other CSM . . . .
Hi, Mike I still hope the issue with new icons set is still on the table, because of theirs rather massive anticipation. It would be great if CSM offer CCP to make icon sets customizable, just because these are just sprites loaded at the client's side, no code or protocols modifications necessary. This sloution will leave most of players happy. Thise who love new icons would use them, those who prefer old icons would be able to use the old ones. This is just that simple. Overview still needs at least 5 more tabs, and way more foreground/background colors. Also there is a special tread devoted to overview usage for colorblind players, it would be great to convince CCP to proceed with setups for such players in question. Please, confirm the peaceful conflict resolution is still possible, as the icons issue is not resolved properly yet. Thanks.
It is not that simple, if ever they chose to give the players customizable UI, wich i strongly doubt given that they took RGB sliders away from us, they gonna have to do it the entire way.
I mean not only the icones themselvs, but colors of them, standing icones also, combat timers, relationship icones, where to place them, how many of them, glowing effects, bling effects, what do you want display, what you don't, etc, etc.
That means working on a full scalable set as well, not only 90% 100% 110% but any kind of scale.
That is a HUGE job in order to have something usefull overall. I don't want to have a customizable tool if the only customizable thing is to be able to draw my own icones in paint... i want the whole thing, and that won't happen any time soon, if it ever happen at all. |
Panterata
BRUTAL GENESIS GaNg BaNg TeAm
259
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Posted - 2015.06.22 15:40:30 -
[2025] - Quote
CCP devs
We are waiting your reply |
Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
244
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Posted - 2015.06.22 15:56:26 -
[2026] - Quote
I'm not one of those planning to quit over this, but I want CCP to know that this stuff is not a direction that I as a customer, am happy with. Removing UI elements and features I liked an was using, such as the jukebox, or replacing them with versions that are just not better. Like the neocom, 7 months in now isnt it? I still make regular mistakes with it, the monochrome stuff is harder to tell apart than colored icons. The UI sliders are also something I miss, I cant get the UI to look as It would be optimal for me anymore, it's a pure downgrade. The new Icons, many of them look too similar, telling apart a sea of different ships, wrecks... it all becomes a sea of triangles This isnt an improvement either.
All those things are making the game slightly less and less enjoyable for me with each "improvement" the best case scenario with "improvements" in this regard, is things like the module rebalancing and renaming, which I just don't really care about, or the download on demand client, which I really don't care about. those things were not broken, but they aren't really now either.
So I'm just at a loss now, what can I as a customer, do, to tell CCP, that I'm NOT happy with those recent "improvements", and feature removals?
We tried telling them, over and over. They are still going on with the same plan of removing features and "improving" others.
For many players, this mess has already pushed them off, the last 18 months of http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility isnt looking too good, and I'm starting to get flashbacks to SOE's "new game enhancements" for star wars galaxies. Yes much of that stuff was not well balanced, some class combos were overpowered forever, but that patch, removed some of the games key features, in the name of balance, and "improvements" Then as half the playerbase quit in very short order, SOE ignored all feedback, declared success, and patted each other on the back for a job well done.
CCP, please don't make that happen here..
And last but not least, because for some reason this needs to be said, #1 If I didn't like CCP, and have hope for the future of EVE online, I would NOT be on the forums posting in the feedback thread. I would already have quit.
and #2 Official polls about this stuff, from CCP, would REALLY help. I see both sides here make a lot of assumptions about the silent majority, the truth of that is simply, we dont have a clue what the silent majority thinks, untill we get them to speak. And they clearly do not like forums.
But seriously CCP, make a system for an ingame survey, neutrally worded, to not bias the community either way, and make some simple reward for completing the survey. Surveys can easily be annoying, which is why many avoid them, to not annoy their customers. But if you give something like a gecko drone, as a reward for answering a few questions, I'm quite sure most of the player base would be very happy to give their opinion :) |
Louanne Barros
Hole Violence Whole Squid
109
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Posted - 2015.06.22 16:58:17 -
[2027] - Quote
Panterata wrote:CCP devs
We are waiting your reply
Reddit appears to be the best place to get a CCP response, unfortunately. |
Cleanse Serce
Lonesome Capsuleer
61
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Posted - 2015.06.22 18:09:11 -
[2028] - Quote
Louanne Barros wrote:Panterata wrote:CCP devs
We are waiting your reply Reddit appears to be the best place to get a CCP response, unfortunately.
Can you share a link of one post they've been active recently ? |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2015.06.22 19:20:48 -
[2029] - Quote
Mike Azariah wrote:
Like I said. I am still trying to engage both you and CCP on this subject. But I am not the string and tin cans so you can yell at CCP through me. The good news is that I am not running for CSM XI so you have less than a year left of my useless ass and then you will have the full attention of the other CSM . . . .
good luck with that
m
It doesn't make 'voting for CSM' next year sound very appealing if that's how the CSM generally feels after meeting with CCP. And yes, you're the main visible one, which I appreciate, actually, but the lack of expression by the CSM body makes it look like CCP has just shut that organization out of being a channel for meaningful player input too.
Test server participants ignored. CSM non-existent. Players generally ignored except by a couple of 'anti-players' that tell players to leave if the game's usability is taken beyond common human faults. Ouch. Why have forums or test servers, btw? |
Jared Tobin
Bloodstone Industries B.S.I.
238
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Posted - 2015.06.22 21:58:30 -
[2030] - Quote
After keeping up and reading through over 114 pages of both this feedback section as well as the new "Dev blog: Feedback on the new Overview Brackets" page, I've consolidated enough to handle a few large chunks of personal, constructive feedback for the Overview Iconography issues, and figured I'd leave a redirecting note here. It's a waste to repeat when unnecessary:
Part 1 of 2 genuine, constructive feedback: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5838804#post5838804
Part 2 of 2 genuine, constructive feedback: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5838810#post5838810
JT Win7Pro,64bit, Carnyx |
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Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
172
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Posted - 2015.06.23 00:33:10 -
[2031] - Quote
Just read all of that and that was quite useful and detailed, thanks! |
slphy vansyl
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.06.23 10:09:14 -
[2032] - Quote
19k players average.... no problem, keep on! that's true, eve is a place of ever changing, more space, less icons to see! that's a good solution too ^^ source: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility |
Panterata
BRUTAL GENESIS GaNg BaNg TeAm
262
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Posted - 2015.06.23 12:50:03 -
[2033] - Quote
slphy vansyl wrote:19k players average.... no problem, keep on! that's true, eve is a place of ever changing, more space, less icons to see! that's a good solution too ^^ source: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility and thanks a lot for the most constructive reply from Jared Tobin, great job to write
The time is coming when only CCP will play with the new icons |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
175
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Posted - 2015.06.23 15:08:24 -
[2034] - Quote
Hmmm, new patch today, related to this last rollout, or prep for the next one? |
Cleanse Serce
Lonesome Capsuleer
62
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Posted - 2015.06.23 15:22:49 -
[2035] - Quote
Joia Crenca wrote:Hmmm, new patch today, related to this last rollout, or prep for the next one?
I've read somewhere that tuesday will patch something about icones, can't recall the post though. |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
175
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Posted - 2015.06.23 15:27:52 -
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Cleanse Serce wrote:Joia Crenca wrote:Hmmm, new patch today, related to this last rollout, or prep for the next one? I've read somewhere that tuesday will patch something about icones, can't recall the post though.
I don't know if Burn Amarr is finished, as that would be the best place to tell the difference between NPC (Concord) and player icons (including many wrecks ) |
Cleanse Serce
Lonesome Capsuleer
62
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Posted - 2015.06.23 15:31:57 -
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There should be a "patch note" even for tiny patches |
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CCP Claymore
C C P C C P Alliance
166
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Posted - 2015.06.23 17:10:37 -
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Hey folks,
So we have been chatting about what we can get ready for the next release, Aegis, to try and improve the icon experience.
Drones:
- We are going to reduce the number of icons for drones and change the icon so it is not similar to a ship icon.
90% scaling:
- We are going to increase the stroke thickness on icons to improve readability at 90% while retaining fidelity at 100%.
Player/NPC distinction:
- We are going to increase the fill on NPC ships and for friendly NPC ships add a blue tint.
We have been looking at these changes with the colorblind player in mind and we have looked at them through some simulators, but not being colorblind we really need your feedback if this is helping your experience. Colorblind players please let us know how they look and if they are better.
We should have these up on SISI before the weekend and will be taking all your feedback on board to make these changes as effective as possible before Aegis drops on July 7th.
There will not be any updates to Icons on TQ before July 7th.
Quality Assurance Analyst
Team Game of Drones
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CAPS TIME
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.06.23 17:38:07 -
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Will EWAR drones mantain a different icon from the combat ones? I love that feature in their current iteration. |
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CCP Claymore
C C P C C P Alliance
168
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Posted - 2015.06.23 17:42:57 -
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CAPS TIME wrote:Will EWAR drones mantain a different icon from the combat ones? I love that feature in their current iteration.
Yes, they will.
Quality Assurance Analyst
Team Game of Drones
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