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Ab Initio
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.13 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr I mean this with 100% absolute sincerity.
I wish my job allowed me to spend the same amount of time in-game that you guys do on the forums.
None of us can spend as much time in game as we do on the forums, we have jobs as well.. I conclude that the amount of BoB posting is proportional to the amount of Bob that have jobs stopping them from being in game. :)
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Astrophobics
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Posted - 2006.11.13 04:57:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Ab Initio
That's why we don't talk back to Molle.
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Tevlent
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.13 04:58:00 -
[93]
So can anyone give us a link to the video of this Titan doomsday device obliterating everything or what?
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Riley Craven
Caldari Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.13 05:14:00 -
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Edited by: Riley Craven on 13/11/2006 05:21:03
Originally by: Gungankllr I mean this with 100% absolute sincerity.
I wish my job allowed me to spend the same amount of time in-game that you guys do on the forums.
I really would like to know how you come to this statement as a fact.
Fact: Both sides have their forum warriors that spend alot amount of time in this particular forum.
Fact: Both sides are in game losing ships and fighting for their ideals.
Fact: The Bob leadership has not spent their time posting on these forums every single day a new thread about how the war was going.
I mean seriously, where does anyone get off making a statement such as this. Its not like the war hasnt progressed. You've practically lost an entire region not to mention a crap load of ships and people STILL need to say "take it in game"! How much more do you need to loose to stop making such statments?
Both sides have made posts on this war, why cant people just leave it like that and be respectful?
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.11.13 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: Riley Craven
Both sides have made posts on this war, why cant people just leave it like that and be respectful?
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.13 05:42:00 -
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Edited by: Moonlight Express on 13/11/2006 05:43:20
The Priory lecturing someone about being respectful?
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Sirius A
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.13 05:43:00 -
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hahaha....that made me laugh
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.11.13 05:51:00 -
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Edited by: Murukan on 13/11/2006 05:54:38
Originally by: Moonlight Express Edited by: Moonlight Express on 13/11/2006 05:43:20
The Priory lecturing someone about being respectful?
If you can't see the irony in a BoB member asking ASCN people to be respectful on the forums then you're clearly: A)an idiot or B)an idiot
Take your pick
And tbh i could careless if they are respectful to each other. I just find it ironic that a BoB member would ask ASCN to keep it respectful when they have tried their hardest to smear ASCN's name everywhich way to sunday.
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.13 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Murukan
Originally by: Moonlight Express Edited by: Moonlight Express on 13/11/2006 05:43:20
The Priory lecturing someone about being respectful?
If you can't see the irony in a BoB member asking ASCN people to be respectful on the forums then you're clearly: A)an idiot or B)an idiot
Take your pick
Point proven
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.11.13 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Moonlight Express
Originally by: Murukan
Originally by: Moonlight Express Edited by: Moonlight Express on 13/11/2006 05:43:20
The Priory lecturing someone about being respectful?
If you can't see the irony in a BoB member asking ASCN people to be respectful on the forums then you're clearly: A)an idiot or B)an idiot
Take your pick
Point proven
Yah you prove my point quite nicely thanks
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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Dash43
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.13 06:12:00 -
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Edited by: Dash43 on 13/11/2006 06:16:01 Edited by: Dash43 on 13/11/2006 06:13:33
Originally by: Angelus X
Originally by: Havras Not much more impressive then BE ganking a bunch of ratting battleships though. It's been proven that a properly tanked Bs can withstand the Doomsday weapon.
I don't see how you can compare "BE ganking a bunch of ratting BS" to Shrike jumping his Titan, solo, into an ASCN camp in what could be described as your "Capital System" (AZN).
Also, if you check our killboard mate, you'll find that a certain Sha Karn pilot in a megathron with t2 425mm (would suggest high SP), and a damage control didn't survive the DD blast.
See things haven't change Angelus.....you still have the knack of stating the obvious
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Armanub
M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.13 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Sooo..Chowdown. How would u like to have BOB as a neighbour. U'll have Red/Goons attacking u from the west and BOB attacking u from the east. Maybe its in ure best interest to give ure dear allies, ASCN, a helping hand one of these days?
I'd just like to point out that you have your space geography mixed up. Goons/RA are to the northeast and BoB/ASCN are to the southwest
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Father Weebles
Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2006.11.13 06:42:00 -
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Let's say BoB wipes ASCN off the map in the next month or 2. Would they be able to successfully hold ASCN's territory?
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.11.13 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: Father Weebles Let's say BoB wipes ASCN off the map in the next month or 2. Would they be able to successfully hold ASCN's territory?
They would probably instal some sponsor alliances in that space like they do with querious and fountain. BoB really isn't all that big in terms of numbers so they don't really have the people to completely fill out their space. However doesn't mean they can't make money off that space
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari Two Brothers Mining Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.13 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: CamMan
Originally by: XoPhyte Who ever said petitioning over lag? I sometimes wonder if people fail to read (or think) before they post.
ASCN doesn't petition any more then anybody else. The only petitions that get filed are from node crashes. I believe Mighty is talking about the fact the DD weapon hit him while he was in warp and over 3 au away (which would be out of its range).
Having seen the actual footage of the titan weapon blast, and having seen several smaller ships warp out well after the doomsday weapon effect had gone off, I wonder if this could have been lag? I also sometimes wonder if people post without knowning all the facts.
Now without insulting anyone, in relation to petitioning with node crashes, how long after the node crash do you guys petition? can you regroup have a fleet fight and then petition those loses if it was just after a node crash? Again both sides suffer from a node crash, so what entitles a petition in that case?
I am not flaming, I am interested in what constitutes a petitionable, reimbursement.
I lost a Scorp after fleet jumped in TCAG, and node crashed. I petitioned it immediately.
Basically, we jumped, everything went boom (EVE client, I mean :), I cleared cache, tried to login back. Couldn't login back for 7-8 minutes (was trying repeatedly), was always stuck at "ENTERING GAME" screen (with LOTS of green/red icons on the right-hand side :), and wallet was ok - no insurance payout. After 7-8 minutes, wallet (on character selection screen) went up, and I was suddenly able to login very fast back into the game. Was in a pod, sitting at completely random location (not at gate where I guess I died, or where we jumped though). Petitioned it while I was trying to login (as "stuck" type of petition), and provided screenshots of failed login attempts (stuck at "ENTERING GAME" screen). That was the only petition I ever did.
I didn't really think they'd even answer, but 2-3 days later I was reimbursed.
Don't mind dying, I'd just like to see it when it happens :)
I lost a Scorp during suicide attack on dreads in GQ2, lag was absolutelly horribly super turbo incredible (even after following all the fleet-battle-tweaking-guides :), but no point in petitioning it. I couldn't deactivate active mods, nor activate deactivated mods - nor could warp, move or anything else. But I saw Sabre cross 100+km, come to me and drop the bubble on me - without being able to do anything :) Oh well, bad luck, I'm sure I was not the only one lagged. I could move in pod after dying, though, although that **** dictor bubble is REALLY big when you're trying to get out of it, in a pod
I don't think anyone petitions because of the lag, tbh.
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Rebellion
Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.13 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Murukan Edited by: Murukan on 13/11/2006 05:54:38
Originally by: Moonlight Express Edited by: Moonlight Express on 13/11/2006 05:43:20
The Priory lecturing someone about being respectful?
If you can't see the irony in a BoB member asking ASCN people to be respectful on the forums then you're clearly: A)an idiot or B)an idiot
Take your pick
And tbh i could careless if they are respectful to each other. I just find it ironic that a BoB member would ask ASCN to keep it respectful when they have tried their hardest to smear ASCN's name everywhich way to sunday.
You apparently have no ability to understand what you read, then. What we post about ASCN in order to "smear" them, as you say, are things that they say in secret about us. If ASCN doesn't want to look stupid by saying that BoB lives in basements, are not productive members of society, node hack, lag sploit, cheat by being devs or GMs, then they could simply have stopped saying stupid things. We don't invent what people like McCreedy say, they do it on their own as EVE-Tribune should already show clearly.
Perhaps you refer to BoB saying that ASCN has not displayed any capacity for providing either an effective attack or defense as "smearing" ASCN's name. We have the facts from the war to back that claim. Where are ASCN's facts to dispute it? When your alliance leader gives a 2 hour speech saying, among others that the best way to beat BoB is "not to fight them", I think that is proof enough.
By the way, when I say that you have no ability to understand what you read, I mean that you are an idiot.
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.11.13 07:55:00 -
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Edited by: Murukan on 13/11/2006 07:59:07 I'm not saying you guys are posting lies Rebellion. But you can't hardly believe that you guys post all the blogs and internal ASCN forum posts out of respect for their alliance. You know **** well that it's rather silly to ask ASCN to post in a respectful manner towards you guys, as you cannot say you are very respectful in the way you guys post about them.
I don't really care if you guys are respectful tbh, flame the hell out of each other like you have been. I just think it's rather ironic if one side tries to scold the other for not being respectful.
But i forgot this is BoB we're talking about. For everyone knows that BoB can do no wrong and are truely the lint of jesus' arse
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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Rebellion
Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.13 08:01:00 -
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Oh, ok, I understand where you're coming from then.
I just see a very distinct difference between something like:
"BoB lost 3 systems because their inept leadership made no concerted effort to form an organized defense of them and instead focused on making excuses."
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"ASCN live in basements, are known to use exploits, are unproductive members of society because they have too much time to play EVE or post in forums compared to us who have careers."
I don't think the first is an attempt at smearing, it's factual criticism. The second is clearly an insult.
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.13 08:11:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Murukan Edited by: Murukan on 13/11/2006 07:59:07 I'm not saying you guys are posting lies Rebellion. But you can't hardly believe that you guys post all the blogs and internal ASCN forum posts out of respect for their alliance. You know **** well that it's rather silly to ask ASCN to post in a respectful manner towards you guys, as you cannot say you are very respectful in the way you guys post about them.
I don't really care if you guys are respectful tbh, flame the hell out of each other like you have been. I just think it's rather ironic if one side tries to scold the other for not being respectful.
But i forgot this is BoB we're talking about. For everyone knows that BoB can do no wrong and are truely the lint of jesus' arse
I understood what you ment. and tbh i dont respect ASCN's HC. I respect the members that have put everything into fighting us and know what to do but get limited to no support from ASCN's leaders. After reading ASCN's internal forums i can clearly see who gets my respect and who doesnt, people with a clue getting smacked down by their alliance leaders. The best qoute ever so far is Madeye McGreedy's: Quote: Disaster? I didn't see a disaster happen. I saw a disaster averted due to quick info passed from Shanzem to myself to the Dread gang.
This beeing said to the ASCN member base regarding this engagement EvE-O Thread Thats just too funny and im sorry but im still laughing at that one.
To note, the more vocal members that seem to have more clue then the rest are members of eXceed Inc, been a pleasure fighting you and reading your posts
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King Fury
Caldari New Justice
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Posted - 2006.11.13 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: Rebellion Edited by: Rebellion on 13/11/2006 08:03:33 Oh, ok, I understand where you're coming from then.
I just see a very distinct difference between something like:
"BoB lost 3 systems because their inept leadership made no concerted effort to form an organized defense of them and instead focused on making excuses."
and
"ASCN live in basements, are known to use exploits, are unproductive members of society because they have too much time to play EVE or post in forums compared to us who have careers."
I don't think the first is an attempt at smearing, it's factual criticism. The second is clearly an insult.
Quote: But i forgot this is BoB we're talking about. For everyone knows that BoB can do no wrong and are truely the lint of jesus' arse
I'm glad to see that we're beginning to understand each other.
You guys have done nothing but smack and abuse ASCN from day 1. Look at all the pointless threads you make
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Audrea
Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.11.13 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Murukan I'm not saying you guys are posting lies Rebellion. But you can't hardly believe that you guys post all the blogs and internal ASCN forum posts out of respect for their alliance. You know **** well that it's rather silly to ask ASCN to post in a respectful manner towards you guys, as you cannot say you are very respectful in the way you guys post about them.
You understand it wrong I think. When ASCN post the stuff they do in their private forums, stuff like saying bob members live in basement etc, they actually were the first to show lack of respect, and got what they deserve - public humiliation on eve-o forums.
If they made 'normal' posts, I bet bob wouldnt have copy/pasted them here, and would have given respect where its due.
But it was said countless times by various people in other threads already, some ppl just dont get it, or dont want to.
No matter, needed to do a daily post anyway ------------------ Save Tranquility! |
Durvaul
Caldari SAS Strike Team Lacuna Viators Imperium
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Posted - 2006.11.13 09:14:00 -
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Quite frankly im amazed and disgusted at the saem time, it was said that ASCN was just another Xetic jus a tad more organized and tbh it seems to be true
This is just another .5. V Xetic again and Xetic are losing. BOB has single handedly taken paragon soul with minimalk reistsence. An alliance of nearly 4 thousand people could not stop them.
Now i ask you in complete honesty? Why does ascn smack here? repeat bob offers as if to scorn them, your children - you need to jus take it ingame regardless of what happens on these forums.
Personally - I hope bob beat the crap out ASCN. Xetic reborn is kinda lame and tbh. CYVOK is on like maybe twice a week, (he's in my address book) so... No leader... No Alliance - ASCN will die
Will bob be able to hold the space? That depends if AAA come play or Axiom come for it. Personaly i have no clue. But hell, i hope both sides have fun, just stop disrespecting each other
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Helen
STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.13 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Durvaul CYVOK is on like maybe twice a week, (he's in my address book) so... No leader... No Alliance - ASCN will die
Originally by: Durvaul Personaly i have no clue.
Just because CYVOK the avatar doesn't log doesn't mean CYVOK isn't online. Think you summed it up with the you have no clue part.
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Choralone
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.13 09:31:00 -
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Actually, imho the tone was set in the initial Pendulum announcement when Molle responded to CYVOK's Fountain joke with the "I'll be pushing that statement down your throat shortly." It's gone downhill from there from posters on both sides.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.13 09:33:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 13/11/2006 09:33:41 Wow, seems ASCN are almost folding. Either BOB has taken another step up on the war and efficiency ladder or ASCN sucks when it comes to proper invasion. A 70man fleet is very very thin :(
Anyways, hats off to BOB for doing this :)
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.13 09:53:00 -
[116]
Originally by: CamMan how much lag is required for reimbursement? 1 sec? 2 secs? where do you ASCN pilots draw the line at petitioning for reimbursements?
Cheers Cam
I petition my shiploss everytime a node crashes, and so far got my ship back everytime I petitioned (node crash = auto reimbursement on ccp's policy).
- Gob
Originally by: SirMolle ASCN is feeling the cold, chilling tendrils of fear creep into the hearts of their alliance.
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Gungankllr
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.13 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: Gungankllr on 13/11/2006 10:03:51
Originally by: Riley Craven
I really would like to know how you come to this statement as a fact.
What I said is 100% factual. I wish I had the time you guys spend tapping out posts ingame.
I never said you guys didn't have a life, or live in your mom's basements, or you run around with shoes with little roller skates in the heels.
I made a personal comment, and it's 100% true.
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Fact: Both sides have their forum warriors that spend alot amount of time in this particular forum.
You'll have to admit that the ratio is slightly skewed.
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Fact: Both sides are in game losing ships and fighting for their ideals.
True.
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Fact: The Bob leadership has not spent their time posting on these forums every single day a new thread about how the war was going.
True, but semantically true. Just because the BoB leadership doesn't start a new thread, doesn't mean that any number of members of the BoB leadership aren't flaying the forum on a daily basis with the "we are so yarr" vitriol we see here on a daily basis.
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I mean seriously, where does anyone get off making a statement such as this.
I think I've earned the right after wading through the 3000 different BoB posts trying to ensure that something I need to respond to isn't missed on the forums.
Quote: Its not like the war hasnt progressed. You've practically lost an entire region not to mention a crap load of ships and people STILL need to say "take it in game"!
I think that is more about most average Eve players, not just ASCN, are tired of the constant chest beating, ranting and overbearing deluge of written rabble which blunts rational thinking.
In this entire conflict there has only been three BoB members which I feel I can maintain a civilized discourse, and that is with Rebellion, Pershephanie (when she is on her meds) and Anue.
Ok, perhaps not Anue.
Quote: How much more do you need to loose to stop making such statments?
I've already pretty much lost everything I own, and I'll happily point out what I think even when I'm fighting you guys in a Covetor armed with a micro smartbomb.
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Both sides have made posts on this war, why cant people just leave it like that and be respectful?
In all fairness, yes, both sides have made posts. There is some ASCN posts that are put up that I wish I had forum moderator access so I could just delete them.
That being said, if you're looking for ASCN to be more respectful, you need to start with yourselves first.
Most every post made by a BoB member nowadays is meant as a morale-jab, and as such it intrinsically becomes a post created to spread negativity.
As I said, some of you guys are very well spoken, and it's a relief from the mindless prattle I have seen over the last six weeks.
Hidden in this signature is a secret message.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.13 10:00:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 13/11/2006 10:02:13
Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 13/11/2006 09:33:41 Wow, seems ASCN are almost folding. Either BOB has taken another step up on the war and efficiency ladder or ASCN sucks when it comes to proper invasion. A 70man fleet is very very thin :(
Anyways, hats off to BOB for doing this :)
Added Dice giving us another edge, our wartime industrial capabilities are ridiculous, our logistics are better than ever.
ASCN have no real pvp ability as an alliance, can't form gangs of more than 10 daily but more importantly than anything...
When ASCN stop to catch their breath, they lose another system... and they are stopping to catch their breath more and more whereas we are ever present with firm goals and objectives for our pilots.
So really, it's a bit of both.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.13 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 13/11/2006 10:02:13
Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 13/11/2006 09:33:41 Wow, seems ASCN are almost folding. Either BOB has taken another step up on the war and efficiency ladder or ASCN sucks when it comes to proper invasion. A 70man fleet is very very thin :(
Anyways, hats off to BOB for doing this :)
Added Dice giving us another edge, our wartime industrial capabilities are ridiculous, our logistics are better than ever.
ASCN have no real pvp ability as an alliance, can't form gangs of more than 10 daily but more importantly than anything...
When ASCN stop to catch their breath, they lose another system... and they are stopping to catch their breath more and more whereas we are ever present with firm goals and objectives for our pilots.
So really, it's a bit of both.
dbp
What are you talking about? We had a 23 man gang on Friday night for some R&R that was just my corp.
Saturday night we had a 32 man gang that was just us and TSYND and a couple of others roaming about and had a great fight with BSC and then killed a few BoBlets.
Are you sure you have not accidentally logged onto the test server?
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.13 10:53:00 -
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Hi Fitz,
Perhaps you missed the point I was making.
ASCN do not have constant gangs in any form around 23/7. You may rustle a gang together for an hour or two but don't even begin to pretend to the Eve public that you have any sort of constant prescence currently in this war on a daily basis.
Yes, you can put together gangs on occasions. Congratulations.
And as a sidenote Fitz, incase you were wondering, go ask Eddz of KIA or Woody of CE exactly what you will achieve by roaming our regions ganking the industrialists living there while your sheep die and lose their outposts in your home region.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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