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Ascend Alt
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.05 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Your goals for the weekend have failed.
Your fleets have failed.
Your Capital ships have failed.
Your HC has failed.
I do wish you guys would just stop beating round the bush and tell us we are rubbish at this game.
In fact, why not just start a thread called "ASCN is rubbish" and keep it all in that one thread and give other people a go eh?
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Lord Abbadon
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.11.05 15:55:00 -
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yay another i love my self bob thread. dont others get tired of bob by now?
EVE domination. The same old dream. Our asylums are full of people who think they're Naploeon. Or God. |
Mangold
Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.11.05 15:55:00 -
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I'm neutral in this particular war but I find the forum spamming quite disturbing.
So you have spies in ASCN as you got the information posted above? Then you use that information to brag about it on the forums to try to lower their morale? And then you start posting kill/death ratios and we all know that there isnt a single accurate killboard in eve.
Was this really worth a post?
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eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.11.05 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ascend Alt
Originally by: DB Preacher Your goals for the weekend have failed.
Your fleets have failed.
Your Capital ships have failed.
Your HC has failed.
I do wish you guys would just stop beating round the bush and tell us we are rubbish at this game.
In fact, why not just start a thread called "ASCN is rubbish" and keep it all in that one thread and give other people a go eh?
The thing is, ASCN isnt rubbish, its good at what it does as is BoB, its just your both good at differant things, but BoB takes it upon themselfs to proclaim themselfs better than the best.
They play on things like 'omg people think we are gms' and 'people think we h4x' which is just a pathetic way of stroking their allready inflated ego.
But enough of this for now, im hoping for a DB Preacher reply :) _______________ Yar!Ö |
Ilmonstre
Minmatar TYRANTS
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Posted - 2006.11.05 15:56:00 -
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so why is there a need to make a public post in reply to a internal post of ascn?
so what if this attempt failed i dont see anny morale loss in ascn so its not really a issue atm.
and as long as ASCN can deploy pos BOB wont take a system fully its really simple
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eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.11.05 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ilmonstre so why is there a need to make a public post in reply to a internal post of ascn?
so what if this attempt failed i dont see anny morale loss in ascn so its not really a issue atm.
and as long as ASCN can deploy pos BOB wont take a system fully its really simple
Its just another FAILED propoganda attempt by BoB.
I guess their alike now huh? _______________ Yar!Ö |
Mau'l Sith
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Posted - 2006.11.05 15:59:00 -
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if aaa wasnt such pansies and attack axe it would be different story , wonder why d2 doenst return bob favour from past and take station or 2
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scabbsssjr
Gallente The Afterlife
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 05/11/2006 14:58:13 This is the gentleman that is the ASCN nominated voice on the map thread. One whom I have constantly questioned to whether he had any clue about what was going on due to his inaccurate posting (hi, I still can't fly a barge).
ASCN, if this is the example your HC set you urgently need to get them working for you and not just for their own gains.
ASCN Members, your HC has failed you this weekend. I can understand completely why you have deserted GQ2s. I would too tbh.
However, I am sure this is just a minor blip. After your victory in PNQ (you were going to use that to attack fountain right? No rush I suppose), your leaders have you POS sitting again because you can't go toe to toe with BoB.
Your goals for the weekend have failed.
Your fleets have failed.
Your Capital ships have failed.
Your HC has failed.
dbp
You forgot their secert goal. It was to provide moral to their troops threw a plan. They failed their cause you kinda killed that plan.
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Lord Abbadon
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mau'l Sith if aaa wasnt such pansies and attack axe it would be different story , wonder why d2 doenst return bob favour from past and take station or 2
well your right, D2 and AAA need to reatatch their balls to its proper place. but i doubt they will or can. most likley cant..... maybe they are bob slaves?
EVE domination. The same old dream. Our asylums are full of people who think they're Naploeon. Or God. |
Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: eveceo1
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It was quite amusing to see who formed the corp you are in.
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theforce
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
are we gonna get a topic like that every week? Jeez Can't you keep bob propaganda in 1 topic instead off poluting every f***ing topic
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eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Pestillence
Originally by: eveceo1
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It was quite amusing to see who formed the corp you are in.
Im glad your easily ammused, makes me feel complete knowing this, honestly, my heart sings with joy now. _______________ Yar!Ö |
Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb So you think ASCN would be winning if their leaders turned up on th front lines? I`m curious to see what you would do differently thats all.
Unless the leaders are on the front line, in battleships (not in covert OP hiding), commanding fleets, calling targets, being called primary and dying, they are not leaders that will commend respect and are not worth fallowing. Period. If you fallow any other kind of a leader, then he will fail you in a long run when the going gets tough.
Example. DICE CEO is out best fleet commander (one of many, but imo the best one). He loses ships more then anybody. HeÆs always primary. He never has any money. Our members donate to him whatever he needs, because he does not take any ISK from corp wallet. That goes to the corp business, not him. ThatÆs the kind of a leader we fallow and weÆll die at a moments notice if he says so. I would never fallow any other kind of a leader. BoB has a lot of these kind of leaders and thatÆs why BoB rules.
ASCN leaders are not seen on the battle front. They are not commending the fleets, they are not losing ships out of their own packets. There are a lot of other reasons for their failures that it would take to long to write up, but I think I made my point. The actuality is that when this is over, the ASCN pilots that are on the front lines, some might end up in BoB. When fighting against each other, a lot of times mutual respect is formed and from experience in past wars, our old enemies become our corp mates when all said and done. The leadership usually end up with all of the alliance assets, moves to a new area or jump ship to some other alliance and forever blames BoB for their failures. ThatÆs how it always ends up and it wonÆt be any different this time.
The truth will set you free
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Drusus Rensus
Gallente Klima Galactic
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:13:00 -
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I read the forums a lot, because I'm trying to play catch up. This war has always seemed to be to be fear based and preemptive on BoB's part. The fact that it was launched shortly after the announcement of ASCN's Titan is probably no coincidence.
One Titan isn't a problem. A small fleet of them backed by carriers could probably march right through BoB space and they wouldn't be able to do anything but sit in their stations and watch. It puts BoB on the horns of a dilema. Do they sit and watch while Cyvok builds such a doomsday fleet and hope that what he's said about not having designs on their space is true, or do they attack and try to keep him from building it? It's a tough call, because if they attack and fail, and he does build such a fleet, payback will be a mother.
They're kind of playing the role of Japan in WWII. They're a relatively small militeristic state going up against a "sleeping giant" industrial power who will surely crush them if they are able to harness that power and wield it effectively. It's fascinating to watch it play out in a game.
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Crucifier
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Abbadon
Originally by: Mau'l Sith if aaa wasnt such pansies and attack axe it would be different story , wonder why d2 doenst return bob favour from past and take station or 2
well your right, D2 and AAA need to reatatch their balls to its proper place. but i doubt they will or can. most likley cant..... maybe they are bob slaves?
Oh really, who of us is posting with an alt. You are in no position to call us anything or try to get us to do anything. You are some low level nub who doesn't know **** whats going on.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude ... truthful stuff...
Wether you like BoB or not the man does have a point... unfortunately it often takes alliances to fall or die for it to be proven.
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Lord Abbadon
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:16:00 -
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lets all ignore EVERY thred bob makes? would but a thorn to their loving selfs.
All disciples are idiots. What are the XS? What are the FIX who wrangle and push to pick up the crumbs from BOB's banquet? What are those would-be artists who imitate BOB? They're a flock of sheep, and they're always driven by a dog called bob. edited quote by Isaac Bashevis
EVE domination. The same old dream. Our asylums are full of people who think they're Naploeon. Or God. |
Lord Abbadon
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:17:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Lord Abbadon
Originally by: Mau'l Sith if aaa wasnt such pansies and attack axe it would be different story , wonder why d2 doenst return bob favour from past and take station or 2
well your right, D2 and AAA need to reatatch their balls to its proper place. but i doubt they will or can. most likley cant..... maybe they are bob slaves?
Oh really, who of us is posting with an alt. You are in no position to call us anything or try to get us to do anything. You are some low level nub who doesn't know **** whats going on.
awww go cry me a river
EVE domination. The same old dream. Our asylums are full of people who think they're Naploeon. Or God. |
Kaleeb
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:19:00 -
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I suppose you could say that ASCN isnt a pvp alliance and follow leaders that are succesful at other aspects of the game metal dude. While this doesnt help them too much in a straight up fight against a powerful pvp force it has enabled them to build a huge empire.
Different people follow different leaders i guess.
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Crucifier
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:20:00 -
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Edited by: Crucifier on 05/11/2006 16:22:07
Originally by: Lord Abbadon Edited by: Lord Abbadon on 05/11/2006 16:19:27
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Lord Abbadon
Originally by: Mau'l Sith if aaa wasnt such pansies and attack axe it would be different story , wonder why d2 doenst return bob favour from past and take station or 2
well your right, D2 and AAA need to reatatch their balls to its proper place. but i doubt they will or can. most likley cant..... maybe they are bob slaves?
Oh really, who of us is posting with an alt. You are in no position to call us anything or try to get us to do anything. You are some low level nub who doesn't know **** whats going on.
awww go cry me a river does the truth hurt so much? bob slave
I believe this person is supposed to have gotten a warning by now? seeing as you cant post here in a noob corp
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Crucifier
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Abbadon Edited by: Lord Abbadon on 05/11/2006 16:19:27
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Lord Abbadon
Originally by: Mau'l Sith if aaa wasnt such pansies and attack axe it would be different story , wonder why d2 doenst return bob favour from past and take station or 2
well your right, D2 and AAA need to reatatch their balls to its proper place. but i doubt they will or can. most likley cant..... maybe they are bob slaves?
Oh really, who of us is posting with an alt. You are in no position to call us anything or try to get us to do anything. You are some low level nub who doesn't know **** whats going on.
awww go cry me a river does the truth hurt so much? bob slave
I believe this person is supposed to have gotten a warning by now? seeing as you cant post here in a noob corp
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MarketMouse
The Genesis Project
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:22:00 -
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Posts like these are an attempt to distract from the fact that this war is like a month old and BoB is barely into Paragon Soul, and even that is due to them dedicating their entire force to GQ2 and H8. The reality is that BoB can only effectively attack one system at a time or maybe two if they are right next to each other, so I think this war is officially stalemated. Its all fairly boring, as proven by the fact that BoB are so bored that they are on the forums posting silly stuff like this. I'm sure your rank and file pilots are thoroughly enjoying the POS sitting.
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Lorth
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ascend Alt
I do wish you guys would just stop beating round the bush and tell us we are rubbish at this game.
In fact, why not just start a thread called "ASCN is rubbish" and keep it all in that one thread and give other people a go eh?
The individual pilots of ASCN arn't rubbish. They do have the misfortune of following some leaders who have laid out some poorly implemented, and not thought-out-at-all plans.
There have been some glarningly obvious mistakes made by ASCN in this war, and BOB are quiet right in pointing them out. Especially since it would seem that in a lot of your internal ramblings you try to spin these into moral boosting victories for your self.
Truth be told, you'd be better to listen to them, and then formulat a plan in which you improve on your mistakes that BOB are pointing out. Rather then the current trend of blaming it on leet haxorsploits, or other such stupid things that appear in your internal blogs.
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Mireste
Zhujiang
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: MarketMouse
Posts like these are an attempt to distract from the fact that this war is like a month old and BoB is barely into Paragon Soul, and even that is due to them dedicating their entire force to GQ2 and H8. The reality is that BoB can only effectively attack one system at a time or maybe two if they are right next to each other, so I think this war is officially stalemated. Its all fairly boring, as proven by the fact that BoB are so bored that they are on the forums posting silly stuff like this. I'm sure your rank and file pilots are thoroughly enjoying the POS sitting.
That's the way I'm reading these posts too. It seems neither side can get very far. Even if BoB take Paragon Soul they'll just lose it again when they go defend Fountain, or as I've recently seen when they go smack Goons down again. I'll just wait for the 'Servers can't support fleet battles so we're not fighting ASCN' any more post from BoB to reserve judgement on who's winning and losing
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scabbsssjr
Gallente The Afterlife
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Drusus Rensus Edited by: Drusus Rensus on 05/11/2006 16:19:45 I read the forums a lot, because I'm trying to play catch up. This war has always seemed to me to be fear based and preemptive on BoB's part. The fact that it was launched shortly after the announcement of ASCN's Titan is probably no coincidence.
One Titan isn't a problem. A small fleet of them backed by carriers could probably march right through BoB space and they wouldn't be able to do anything but sit in their stations and watch. It puts BoB on the horns of a dilema. Do they sit and watch while Cyvok builds such a doomsday fleet and hope that what he's said about not having designs on their space is true, or do they attack and try to keep him from building it? It's a tough call, because if they attack and fail, and he does build such a fleet, payback will be a mother.
They're kind of playing the role of Japan in WWII. They're a relatively small militeristic state going up against a "sleeping giant" industrial power who will surely crush them if they are able to harness that power and wield it effectively. It's fascinating to watch it play out in a game.
Your sorta of right but their are a few things their your missing.
1. This is eve, game mechanics will not allow ASCN to literally over run BOB because of node crashes. Okay that right their limits that industrial might allot, because they can only field a similar amount of people as BOB.
2. Those fleets of titans will never happen because a titan is not an I WIN BUTTON. Most BS can tank a titan blast, but its the supporting fleet that makes a titan dangerous, with the jump portal a titan can bring a fleet with into a BOB system.
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:34:00 -
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Beyond Horizon
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:35:00 -
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sexy post, keep em comming ;
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:36:00 -
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DPB I'm pretty sure it wasnt friday night but the night before friday.
Also curious about your note "they sat the fighters back when they had 140 - they engaged when they had 100", because that night (if its the one the node crashed) I engaged as soon as you brought your dreads out (unless you shot a pos down while nobody noticed, in that case I guess its a tad embarassing eheh).
- Gob
Originally by: SirMolle ASCN is feeling the cold, chilling tendrils of fear creep into the hearts of their alliance.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 05/11/2006 16:39:34 Gob,
You are correct, it was Thursday night, Friday morning.
I was there though. We killed a POS while u had 140 fighters out at your pos. This number dropped to around 100 when you finally attacked us. If you cov ops couldn't find us, I'm sorry mate, get new cov ops pilots.
I can probably get you the details of which pos we killed if you really want to call me on it.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Riley Craven
Caldari Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mireste
Originally by: MarketMouse
Posts like these are an attempt to distract from the fact that this war is like a month old and BoB is barely into Paragon Soul, and even that is due to them dedicating their entire force to GQ2 and H8. The reality is that BoB can only effectively attack one system at a time or maybe two if they are right next to each other, so I think this war is officially stalemated. Its all fairly boring, as proven by the fact that BoB are so bored that they are on the forums posting silly stuff like this. I'm sure your rank and file pilots are thoroughly enjoying the POS sitting.
That's the way I'm reading these posts too. It seems neither side can get very far. Even if BoB take Paragon Soul they'll just lose it again when they go defend Fountain, or as I've recently seen when they go smack Goons down again. I'll just wait for the 'Servers can't support fleet battles so we're not fighting ASCN' any more post from BoB to reserve judgement on who's winning and losing
Well I wont pretend to know any bob battle plans as my job is production. But personally I think It just makes since not to have roled into paragon in the first week. ASCN is a huge allaince. Had we rolled in that first week we would have to had face not only a morally high fleet, but one with alot of reserves as well.
Thus, instead we take a month to widdle their fleets down to their current tactics (t1 frigs using a carrier group). So now that their fleets are small and their morale is gone, it makes perfect sense to attack now.
You could say thats cheap or whatever, but in the end it seems like a pretty sound battle stragey.
As for as fountain is concerned I dont think you will see much if any really bob presence there till after the war. The reality is that the outpost they took is xelas's responsibility not ours. Our stations are up and running and thats all that really matters.
Course then you have the people that think omg they are just your lapdogs. Not only would they disagree but so would we.
Lets break this down for starters, if they were truely our lapdogs would it make since for us to have helped them out so much in the past when other pvp corps have come in to take them out? No it wouldnt, because lapdogs are expendable. So what if the dog dies just get a bloody new one, problem solved.
Secondly, would it make since for us to allow them to build an outpost there? No it wouldn't. For starters its not even a refinery outpost or even a factory, its a gallente one. Seems to me that an outpost like that has more to do with morale and proving to your troups you can indeed stand on your own too feet. So if you have a lapdog would you want him running around all happy and showing off his new gold collar??? No, because a lap dog is grungy old mutt. He should be wearing tatters and you beat him to let you know you are boss, not him leading his own free will.
Now if you are still determined to call them lap dogs instead of what they really are (friends) then fine by me. I guess it really goes to show who is the most delusional of us.
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