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Gallente Citizen 12385493723	Posted - 2006.11.08 15:06:00 - [61] Originally by: Pepperami Same for us, the limited stats we have show CHON with roughly double the kills and loses of the highest Rise corp (so more than double the activity), times of anchor also have more activity than any Rise corp according to A-WAR's data. Very hard, and in fact comical, to believe the claims that they never fought - that's in comparison to other rise corps, at least. The 3 times you actually made it to OR, and I say that number with confidence because I know you personally tPepperv, I podded your cabbage-head self back to empire which also should show on that tdynamicv spreadsheet you guyFs call a killboard. Stop Wardecing a zero security space alliance and treallyv come join the fun` Your Pal Jeff
Pepperami Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.08 15:22:00 - [62] Originally by: Gallente Citizen 12385493723 The 3 times you actually made it to OR, and I say that number with confidence because I know you personally tPepperv, I podded your cabbage-head self back to empire which also should show on that tdynamicv spreadsheet you guyFs call a killboard. Stop Wardecing a zero security space alliance and treallyv come join the fun` Your Pal Jeff Er, No one calls me pepper, you nub. Nor have rise ever got my pod, each time we visit outer ring in a gang we get no fights - except once and the servers crashed out Looks like you're wrong on all counts. Try trolling again. [EVE TASK BAR?]
Mael Duakal Gallente Interlunium Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.08 16:12:00 - [63] Originally by: Falconetta Dr Goebbels I presume? I hope that the forum mods give you a hard punch on your nose for this more than tasteless RL comparison.
Kaylis Tzu Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.08 17:05:00 - [64] Originally by: Pepperami Same for us, the limited stats we have show CHON with roughly double the kills and loses of the highest Rise corp (so more than double the activity), times of anchor also have more activity than any Rise corp according to A-WAR's data. Very hard, and in fact comical, to believe the claims that they never fought - that's in comparison to other rise corps, at least. I would have to aggree... Are you shocked? Please kindly review the systems and Regions in which these encounters took place before you try to reply to this thread. I have never said that CHON doesn't have good PVP'ers. I will never claim that they don't fight. Our problem stemmed from the fact that they were off padding their killboards in Syndicate and other places and not in the fight with us in our claimed space. Look at their board... Look at your board... almost 2/3's of their kills until recently are in Syndicate and almost 50% of the last 2 months are NOOB corps (which they either hide intentionally or don't have the code written correctly on their stats section so you actually have to go back manually) I can only recall a handful of times you ever tried to enter our claimed space in OR. You can keep war dec'ing us and try to pick off people in Empire (guess that's not going to well... or did you forget to pay the bill yesterday), but everyone knows how futile empire wardec's are against a 0.0 alliance. Rise will defend it's space and we don't claim TA-A7V or AE's surrounding pirating routes... See on on the battlefield. RISE Senior Diplomat It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. Douglas MacArthur
whisk 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.11.08 17:44:00 - [65] According to outbreak killboads (i can't post the link but you can easily find what i'm on about). The 3 most active corps in RISE are, 1st Strum, 2nd TOA, 3rd, CHON. Even if they generated all these kills in syndicates and not on the front lines. Ask yourself this, were all the current corps in RISE fighting on the front lines? I seem to remember during outbreaks 4 day stint in 9-4 that we managed to get ONE fight out of you guys. ONE fight from an alliance more than 10 times outbreaks corp size at the time. So maybe just maybe, TOA and CHON were ****ed off with the lack of a force on the front lines so went where they could get action. So first your excuse was CHON and TOA were carebearing while the rest of RISE were fighting, you've since admited yourself thats not the case. The second excuse was that they were fighting in syndicate while the other corps in RISE were fighting on the frontlines, there was minimal force from RISE on the front lines, so are we going to have a third excuse?
somebody Times of Ancar THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.08 17:53:00 - [66] Edited by: somebody on 08/11/2006 17:53:29 I think 3rd excuse will be they have smaller c*cks than us
Kaylis Tzu Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.08 18:16:00 - [67] Edited by: Kaylis Tzu on 08/11/2006 18:23:08 Edited by: Kaylis Tzu on 08/11/2006 18:20:26 Originally by: whisk Have to say during our little scuffle in the rings, i'd say CHON was one of the most active corps from RISE. So for you to now turn around and say "while they mined and we died on the frontlines" is complete rubbish. Anyhow goodluck with it, i just hope you get more corps to fight them compared to what you got to fight us. I have a healthy respect for you and your corp, Whisk. TOXIN is an elite PVP group and were a key factor in forcing the reformation of RISE into the orgainization we have today. I believe your colleagues have had a much different view in recent posts concerning this conflict. In looking at your boards and ours I see a different story during the conflict from 9/9 - 10/7). Although I don't doubt that you saw CHON in the area during your peak times (they do share your primetime) the record shows that just over 10% of our kills against Outbreak had a CHON pilot on it. Most of these were group efforts involving other RISE members and 1/3 of them were in their favorite hunting grounds around Orville and not in the "the rings." If you review your own boards you will see that CHON had some great kills, but they were by no means the stongest of our member corps against Outbreak. This does not mean that we don't respect CHON's abilities... They are a very worthy opponent and it will be a hard fought battle. It is unfortunate that all this could have been prevented if the forces of the new RONIN had fought as hard for us as they are now fighting against us. Both CHON and TOA had already announced their withdrawal from RISE almost 1 week before you took 9-4. Count the kills in Cloud Ring during the last 2 weeks of the conflict (2 weeks prior to 10/7). TOA leaving the alliance was the reason you got the station in 9-4 (their last day in the alliance was that day and is what left the station open to attack). RISE Senior Diplomat It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. Douglas MacArthur
Manc Yakuza Corp THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.08 18:19:00 - [68] This is getting priceless it really is I love the bit about G, all true of course, I'm just waiting for the natural progression where some nubler from Rise figure's out he's Blacklights alt !! To Rise, you really need to stop with the crap talk on the boards & get into your ships more, it's becoming increasingly dull when we enter your ring (sorry I just had to) to find you docked, SS'd or sat at your POS's. Oh & whilst I mentioned the dreaded P word I have to say I love the way that your High (which is what they must be to post some of the utter crap I'm reading) Command post about how you struck a Major blow against the ebil Ronin & there POS network. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT *%&$ING POS'S, we are not about making ISK, we are not about lining our greedy assed pockets, we are about having fun killing you lot & removing your ISK making opportunities & we won't stop until you are that annoyed with us that you actually fight (that doesn't mean bubbling up D5 & sitting 150km from the gate with 3 time our numbers, we allowed you that once, it won't happen again). Anyway ... carry on.
whisk 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.11.08 18:40:00 - [69] So the third excuse is time zones? We'll you've got me there, all power to the hypno toad bzzzzz.
ChronoSphere Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.08 18:53:00 - [70] Originally by: Manc This is getting priceless it really is I love the bit about G, all true of course, I'm just waiting for the natural progression where some nubler from Rise figure's out he's Blacklights alt !! To Rise, you really need to stop with the crap talk on the boards & get into your ships more, it's becoming increasingly dull when we enter your ring (sorry I just had to) to find you docked, SS'd or sat at your POS's. Oh & whilst I mentioned the dreaded P word I have to say I love the way that your High (which is what they must be to post some of the utter crap I'm reading) Command post about how you struck a Major blow against the ebil Ronin & there POS network. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT %&$ING POS'S, we are not about making ISK, we are not about lining our greedy assed pockets, we are about having fun killing you lot & removing your ISK making opportunities & we won't stop until you are that annoyed with us that you actually fight (that doesn't mean bubbling up D5 & sitting 150km from the gate with 3 time our numbers, we allowed you that once, it won't happen again). Anyway ... carry on. That's great that you don't care about your POS'es. Keep taking them down so we don't have to remove them for you. The sooner R0NIN runs out of funds to fight with, the better for us. All your bravado about how you love to fight, about how "%&$ING POS'S, we are not about making ISK" is music to my ears quite frankly. If RONIN wants to believe that an army doesn't travel on its stomach, great. The sooner you die of starvation perhaps. Come talk to me when you have nothing to fight in but n00b ships.' And if you don't care, why are they there? Why bother defending them? Why are you attempting to online more weapons at those POSes in futile attempts to save them? You words say one thing, your actions clearly speak of something else. As for removing our ISK making opportunities, you would have to be able to pressure us outside of the 3 hour timeslot where you have even numbers with us. Because, hey, we're making plenty off ISK off the moons we've liberated from your POS'es. Oh, and another thing "it's becoming increasingly dull when we enter your ring". We're not here for your enjoyment, we're here to decorate our hangars with your corpses. We will engage you when we have a reasonable chance of success, if we do not, we will wait and find an opportunity where we do. If you wish to throw away your own ships (such as your attempt to save the large tower in D5I with insufficient forces) in foolhardy attempts to perhaps prove your courage, I will applaud you for it. We're not running out of ammo or hangar wall space any time soon. Time is running out for RONIN --------- Lieutenant ChronoSphere, SGHQ Security Division Executive Officer, Battlegroup 2 - The Gunslingers "Aut Vincere Aut More"

Ban Tier Times of Ancar THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.08 19:56:00 - [71] Originally by: ChronoSphere We're not here for your enjoyment, we're here to decorate our hangars with your corpses. We will engage you when we have a reasonable chance of success, if we do not, we will wait and find an opportunity where we do. ** I hoped to get some more good fights, but if you wait for a reasonable chance, it will be when we are asleep ... And @Whisk: These noobs have even no idea about tactics ... if we engage our enemy before they enter our space, our industrialist can make some of the ISK we might loose from time to time, cause we do engange if we have a SLIGHTEST** chance of success and sometimes even if we have no chance ... so now this might explain why we prefer to sent out a gang and engage instead of sitting on a station and waiting for a reasonable chance ... but to do this, you must have the balls to jump sometimes into a mess ... but hey is this not the fun about all PvP ? A blob is boring, even if you sometimes need one. And thx for commenting it from a more or less neutral side, but I think, many older ppl in the community already have an idea about RISE following this thread. But those, who did not fight against us until now might become a false impression, not they we really do care much => easy targets ;) , but all this b....sh.... starts to become a bit anoying. Ok RISE next round I want to be the evil one again, pls think of something new I have done Ban CEO Times of Ancar
Manc Yakuza Corp THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.08 20:19:00 - [72] Originally by: ChronoSphere Originally by: Manc This is getting priceless it really is I love the bit about G, all true of course, I'm just waiting for the natural progression where some nubler from Rise figure's out he's Blacklights alt !! To Rise, you really need to stop with the crap talk on the boards & get into your ships more, it's becoming increasingly dull when we enter your ring (sorry I just had to) to find you docked, SS'd or sat at your POS's. Oh & whilst I mentioned the dreaded P word I have to say I love the way that your High (which is what they must be to post some of the utter crap I'm reading) Command post about how you struck a Major blow against the ebil Ronin & there POS network. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT %&$ING POS'S, we are not about making ISK, we are not about lining our greedy assed pockets, we are about having fun killing you lot & removing your ISK making opportunities & we won't stop until you are that annoyed with us that you actually fight (that doesn't mean bubbling up D5 & sitting 150km from the gate with 3 time our numbers, we allowed you that once, it won't happen again). Anyway ... carry on. That's great that you don't care about your POS'es. Keep taking them down so we don't have to remove them for you. The sooner R0NIN runs out of funds to fight with, the better for us. All your bravado about how you love to fight, about how "%&$ING POS'S, we are not about making ISK" is music to my ears quite frankly. If RONIN wants to believe that an army doesn't travel on its stomach, great. The sooner you die of starvation perhaps. Come talk to me when you have nothing to fight in but n00b ships.' And if you don't care, why are they there? Why bother defending them? Why are you attempting to online more weapons at those POSes in futile attempts to save them? You words say one thing, your actions clearly speak of something else. As for removing our ISK making opportunities, you would have to be able to pressure us outside of the 3 hour timeslot where you have even numbers with us. Because, hey, we're making plenty off ISK off the moons we've liberated from your POS'es. Oh, and another thing "it's becoming increasingly dull when we enter your ring". We're not here for your enjoyment, we're here to decorate our hangars with your corpses. We will engage you when we have a reasonable chance of success, if we do not, we will wait and find an opportunity where we do. If you wish to throw away your own ships (such as your attempt to save the large tower in D5I with insufficient forces) in foolhardy attempts to perhaps prove your courage, I will applaud you for it. We're not running out of ammo or hangar wall space any time soon. Time is running out for RONIN Did I mention anywhere in my post that we don't make ISK ? Do you seriously think that 3 corps with as much experience as Yakuza, Chon & TOA wouldn't have a way to fund us killing you nublers. Seriously you guys keep getting it all wrong don't you. I mean the Toxin/A-war posts have proven you wrong with all your false claims about TOA & Chon mining whilst you fella's were popping all those ... erm what exactly were you popping sat in a SS for hours on end ????
Kaylis Tzu Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.08 21:20:00 - [73] Originally by: Nahual CHON you guys are fools, no-one can kick anyone out of an NPC 0.0 region, so good one on thinking you're great. When we were fighting RISE, the corps that I remember fighting us were Res, stromgrumers or something like that and some other one. The only thing I remember about CHON was the wcs that you had and the running that you did (I still like your CNR death ). At least they stuck it out to the end, you bailed when it got hard, nice way to cover your ass. So I wish RISE all the best in this, I may not like them, but I dislike your arrogance even more. - Nahual - 0utbreak Originally by: Kujin Chon made a very small/ interesting couple of engaments way back in our campaign, but that&s it... so b4 any of you wannabe&s are up to smack anything of what i said, go ahead, still,. .. as far as i have experienced it, chon especially deserves the (hopefully)upcomming wcs nerf.... Even though i have my personal feelings on RISE,... with this statement, shivaja deserves a quicker death than RISE atm... - Kujin - 0utbreak Did you forget the comments made in your own thread? I find it funny that as soon as one Outbreak pilot responds to the this thread saying you were "active" you rally around him. There is a big difference between being active and getting kills (my post above concerns kills) as we saw clearly in Cloud Ring. CHON... You guys started this conflict by making a big deal about your "guerilla tactics". You talked about how you would hit and run and dictate the battlefield. Why is it that you now fault RISE pilots for doing the same? Guerillas don't survive long if they storm into fights they can't win. The whole goal is to survive and live to find another weakness of their target they can exploit. If you don't like the fact that we are using the same "tactics" that you proclaimed you would use on us then get use to being frustrated during your TZ. Our pilots will continue to engage you at every reasonable opportunity (I've noticed you don't come into D5 without a group as often) and in the 21 hours that you can not match us we will systematicly dismantle your ability to fight. RISE Senior Diplomat It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. Douglas MacArthur
LordXL Yakuza Corp THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.08 21:33:00 - [74] Originally by: Manc This is getting priceless it really is I love the bit about G, all true of course, I'm just waiting for the natural progression where some nubler from Rise figure's out he's Blacklights alt !! Most amusing... Of course the truth is Blacklight, Molle and DBP are all alts of MINE. I won them in a game of strip poker - they all got down to their undies and didn't want to show me their weiners.. YARR Formerly Vigo Barboza... Always aroused...
PreTender Amarr R0NIN Industrial	Posted - 2006.11.08 21:37:00 - [75] oh yes and ofcourse g is my alt __________________________ http://www.eve-extra.com http://www.eve-wiki.net
Falryx Caldari Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.09 00:23:00 - [76] Edited by: Falryx on 09/11/2006 00:24:18 Hey Whisk: I've a lot of respect for Outbreak, even though y'all came to rain on our parade before we'd had the time to make sure the 60 people running the alliance (I kid you not) actually knew one another. Our mistake. Originally by: whisk Even if they generated all these kills in syndicates and not on the front lines. Ask yourself this, were all the current corps in RISE fighting on the front lines? I seem to remember during outbreaks 4 day stint in 9-4 that we managed to get ONE fight out of you guys. ONE fight from an alliance more than 10 times outbreaks corp size at the time. So maybe just maybe, TOA and CHON were **ed off with the lack of a force on the front lines so went where they could get action. This would be fair criticism if it had been voiced. However, these corporations were happy to pariticipate in discussions about expelling trial corps who did not enter the battle in Cloud Ring -- but may not have held themselves to the standard. More over, I absolutely believe that between TOA, CHON and GREYC (among others) RISE had the force necessary to meet Outbreak and YouWhat and give 'em whatfor. If they needed additional cash, material or support to keep the fight going I believe we would have found a way to make it happen. I'm okay with people having grievances -- and I'll likely be the first member of RISE to admit we have made some pretty precious mistakes. But none of us are mind readers, and nothing gets resolved without engagement over disengagement. Quote:** So first your excuse was CHON and TOA were carebearing while the rest of RISE were fighting, you've since admited yourself thats not the case. The second excuse was that they were fighting in syndicate while the other corps in RISE were fighting on the frontlines, there was minimal force from RISE on the front lines, so are we going to have a third excuse? Let's be clear. I don't think TOA was doing anything other than fighting 100% while they were part of RISE. They left and changed their tune when they re-instated a particular individual as their CEO. That's their perogative, and it doesn't diminish TOA's contribution one whit. It does, however, mean that TOA overnight became a belligerent resident, rather than a partner in Outer Ring. As to CHON -- the evidence supports and documents their activity. That they were occasionally fighting Outbreak in Outer Ring or Syndicate doesn't mean they were directly supporting the alliance or its objectives. Lastly (and not to whisk alone)... as to claims about time zones, let's try to avoid the hypocrisy happening here. The fact of the matter is when prime times don't align, combat is largely less likely to happen. I don't blame RONIN for not being able to field a massive fleet when I am able to play. I don't think that makes them weak or "noobs" and nor do I stoop to the level of insulting them personally because of it. As to what the community knows -- I think the community is very likely to see name-calling rhetoric for what it is. My respect for many of my former colleagues remains strong -- and not because of their battle prowress (well, 'cept for Taurus' FC ability) but because of their hard work as members of our alliance. There's simply no need for the rampant chest-beating and name-calling. EVE makes for strange enemies and strange bedfellows and the time will come when the fighting will be done and standings will be different. Until then, "pew pew pew" and I'll have fun doing it (as will you). Good luck. But I gotta say, I pretty much hope you lose. :)
Pepperami Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 04:57:00 - [77] Originally by: Kaylis Tzu I would have to aggree... Are you shocked? Not shocked, Just a little miffed as the thread said they carebeared while the rest were fighting. If the case is now that they were in the wrong space fighting while rise was elsewhere, well then maybe that's the way it should of been said. Quote: I can only recall a handful of times you ever tried to enter our claimed space in OR. You can keep war dec'ing us and try to pick off people in Empire (guess that's not going to well... or did you forget to pay the bill yesterday), but everyone knows how futile empire wardec's are against a 0.0 alliance. We dec'd you and ISS, it doesn't take a clone-technician to work out that it's an isk farming routine and as it goes, they're far from futile. You're just ignorant to what the advantages are (HACs hauling zydrine sure is novel!). Anyway, let's see what happens between ronin and rise, I hope it will leave a more, shall we say, militaristic group in the outer ring, one that is actually worthy of visits. By the way I just got two questions about your alliance claims; do you claim northern syndicate or is it where the map simply overlaps? And do you yet have control of the (only?) system in outer ring that's worth having? [EVE TASK BAR?]
Earthan Gallente GREY COUNCIL	Posted - 2006.11.09 06:47:00 - [78] Edited by: Earthan on 09/11/2006 06:50:08 Hello again Rise and Ronin friends, Rise still playing with lies and half truths eh? I will NOT anwser to all fo them as it serves nothing but the few most blatant: TOA has been proudly fighting in XZH until they told they are quitiing Rise.YOU RISE signed a agreement with TOA and a few eeeks later you wanted to change it , approaching it in very undiplomatic way. Dear Rise i have set up my mind last time there was a forum war on this boards about this conflict as you offended my memory of Norad, and my feeling of simple decency.Couldnt act earlier as felt a bit responsible to Greyc to help setting up in new stystem.Now its stable im rdy. You play with fire you will get your reward: Im leaving in following days Greyc, forming my own corp and coming to help fight friends. From another brillant post by Rise: Quote: Besides, you have evidence that I'm wrong? Isn't anyone curious why BOB allowed NORAD to have Outer Ring so easily? Why do you think they did that? Well im coming for you dear Rise and you will learn how easy it was for Bob and how easy it will be for you , even with only a part of old norad being in Ronin. The moment i leave Greyc you can set me to -10, caue i will be hunting you . - A knight in space,war veteran,Grey Council military officer. Grey Council webpage
Talaris EveningStar Caldari APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2006.11.09 07:00:00 - [79] Edited by: Talaris EveningStar on 09/11/2006 07:00:13 Edited by: Talaris EveningStar on 09/11/2006 07:00:03 Very interesting, the causes of this war from RiSE's point of view ring strangely familiar for some reason.. Well nevermind. Must be just me. smirks __________________________ "Democracy is for the gullible, Tyrrany is for the weak. We, the State, are the answer to both." Security Division - APEX Unlimited
Bror Jace Gallente Yakuza Corp THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.09 07:22:00 - [80] Originally by: ChronoSphere Time is running out for RONIN No, it's really not

Zirator Times of Ancar THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:25:00 - [81] Originally by: Earthan Edited by: Earthan on 09/11/2006 06:57:44 Edited by: Earthan on 09/11/2006 06:50:08 Hello again Rise and Ronin friends, Rise still playing with lies and half truths eh? I will NOT anwser to all fo them as it serves nothing but the few most blatant: TOA has been proudly fighting in XZH until they told they are quitiing Rise.YOU RISE signed a agreement with TOA and a few eeeks later you wanted to change it , approaching it in very undiplomatic way. Dear Rise i have set up my mind last time there was a forum war on this boards about this conflict as you offended my memory of Norad, and my feeling of simple decency.Couldnt act earlier as felt a bit responsible to Greyc to help setting up in new stystem.Now its stable im rdy. You play with fire you will get your reward: Im leaving in following days Greyc, forming my own corp and coming to help fight friends. From another brillant post by Rise: Quote: Besides, you have evidence that I'm wrong? Isn't anyone curious why BOB allowed NORAD to have Outer Ring so easily? Why do you think they did that? Well im coming for you dear Rise and you will learn how easy it was for Bob and how easy it will be for you , even with only a part of old norad being in Ronin. I still held in alot fo respect for many members but as whole rise/old Fa ( wich is more less same atm i guess) is shame on Eve map for me. The moment i leave Greyc you can set me to -10, caue i will be hunting you . /me salutes Earthan Hey m8, hope to see you in OR soon to do some shootie shootie.
Kaylis Tzu Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.09 16:57:00 - [82] Originally by: Pepperami We dec'd you and ISS, it doesn't take a clone-technician to work out that it's an isk farming routine and as it goes, they're far from futile. You're just ignorant to what the advantages are (HACs hauling zydrine sure is novel!). Well I can see hitting ISS with a wardec since they are so industrial, but RISE as an alliance does not do much in empire and we are now primarily PVP corps. We have systems in place to provide what we need safely and only the most noobish or drunk (Eagle with his personal Zyd - in a cell next to Bubba for DUI) pilots ever enter empire accept for an occaisional quick ship. So... if you want to spend the money fine by me, but contrary to what RONIN would like folks to believe we have over 90% of our players in theater (although admittedly when the RONIN corps were part of RISE this was a serious problem we had with many of the 60 corps Fal was talking about and the seemingly "membership for all" policy of the old council). Originally by: Pepperami By the way I just got two questions about your alliance claims; do you claim northern syndicate or is it where the map simply overlaps? And do you yet have control of the (only?) system in outer ring that's worth having? RISE currently claims Outer Ring and those areas of Syndicate only accessable through Outer Ring (ie. EF-F cluster). As to the second question. This system is not in complete control by anyone at this time, but we utilise it's "rescources" on a fairly consistant basis. RISE Senior Diplomat It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. Douglas MacArthur
Solwolf Gallente BIG Advanced Assault R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.09 19:09:00 - [83] Earthan, I've apologized for that comment you've quoted. If you don't want to accept it then fine. I'd like for you to explain what lies we've told and how we're arrogant? In any event, I don't really care anymore. I'll be fighting you and your friends till the end of the universe now for the way you've insulted me and my friends, until you decide you're mistaken. If I have to fight you by myself, I'll be there. You have fun with that. Before anyone asks, I'm speaking for myself and I'm not a diplomat. Recruitment
Pepperami Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 00:08:00 - [84] Originally by: Kaylis Tzu Originally by: Pepperami By the way I just got two questions about your alliance claims; do you claim northern syndicate or is it where the map simply overlaps? And do you yet have control of the (only?) system in outer ring that's worth having? RISE currently claims Outer Ring and those areas of Syndicate only accessable through Outer Ring (ie. EF-F cluster). As to the second question. This system is not in complete control by anyone at this time, but we utilise it's "rescources" on a fairly consistant basis. Cheers for answering. Pep [EVE TASK BAR?]
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.11.11 14:26:00 - [85] Originally by: Pepperami Anyway, let's see what happens between ronin and rise, I hope it will leave a more, shall we say, militaristic group in the outer ring, one that is actually worthy of visits. Lets see.. large reletivly powerful alliances like rise, not worth visiting Small releitivly weak alliances (like for instance, ourselves! ) worth visiting on a sometimes hourly basis. What an interesting attitude you guys have.
Pepperami Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.12 11:49:00 - [86] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Lets see.. large reletivly powerful alliances like rise, not worth visiting Small releitivly weak alliances (like for instance, ourselves! ) worth visiting on a sometimes hourly basis. What an interesting attitude you guys have. Well, because I know GALnet considers negative comments a form of smacking, I'll simply say I perceive no differences in your two alliances at this current time. From what I know of Antigo (which is virtually nothing) I can say you're very local and a lot of pilots enjoy shooting local targets. Nothing more, nothing less. Rise gets nowhere near the love or attention we want to give it, but that's the blessing of having a very busy home for them and us. Whatever God they believe in help them if we had nothing better to do This thread is all about rise and not anarchy or antigo though - so if you want more info feel free to mail me or start another thread. Anyway, sorry for almost hijacking this GALnet transmission. [EVE TASK BAR?]
Vallerian Gallente Gallente Kombinat	Posted - 2006.11.13 11:35:00 - [87] Many things changed during the conflict in CR... I can't remember a day that I enjoyed during my time in RISE, after CHON and friends left... At the point, where (some within?) RISE decided that many small Corps should either merge with bigger ones or quit RISE, GALKO was in the intensive process of reforming itself. We targeted a new quality and it's very interesting to read Dhan, Kaylis, Aves and Caldari's statements regarding the results of the RISE reformation, as it's not unfamilar. But we went one step further. As RISE broke it's own charta and many good friends of exNORAD left RISE - the new direction for GALKO was clear and therefore integrated into the end-phase of our reformation-process. We now fight with TOA, CHON and YAK against RISE... and this with a much better presence as a result of the time RISE was not willing to give us anyways. We feel accepted as friends by RONIN...we joined them out of free will... We are very happy that we can offer support...moreover: fighting along with friends makes us even stronger... So...good fighting :)
ChronoSphere Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:17:00 - [88] Edited by: ChronoSphere on 13/11/2006 15:19:33 Yes, very good fighting indeed. Thanks for coming out yesterday to prevent us from recharging a POS's shields. RONIN paid a pretty hefty price though I must say, including a Thanatos class carrier. Final tally after the smoke cleared was: 1 Recon Cruiser 2 Battleships 1 Command Ship 7 Cruisers 4 Interceptors 2 Assault Frigs 1 Thanatos Carrier 12 Pods RISE lost 1 Frig 1 Assault Frig 1 Inty 1 Cruiser 1 Battleship 2 Pods Every operation where RONIN attemps to challenge us fails utterly; their false belief in thinking that they are a match for the military might of RISE cost them a carrier. How long will RONIN let this senseless fight continue? At this rate and poor combat preformance of RONIN fleets, this war is not sustainable to them. With each passing day RISE is proving time and again that we are the true owners of Outer Ring, and that we have a strong claim to our territory. EDIT: The POS is fine :) --------- Lieutenant ChronoSphere, SGHQ Security Division Executive Officer, Battlegroup 2 - The Gunslingers "Aut Vincere Aut More"
Lyndin Honor Guard Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:48:00 - [89] Well done to Rise, ive been following this threat from the Start and it truely seems Rise deserve the Outer Ring. I wise Rise the best luck with the Future, and hope to do some Business in the Area.
Rugs Yakuza Corp THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.13 19:44:00 - [90] Edited by: Rugs on 13/11/2006 19:47:36 Originally by: ChronoSphere Edited by: ChronoSphere on 13/11/2006 15:19:33 Yes, very good fighting indeed. Thanks for coming out yesterday to prevent us from recharging a POS's shields. RONIN paid a pretty hefty price though I must say, including a Thanatos class carrier. Final tally after the smoke cleared was: 1 Recon Cruiser 2 Battleships 1 Command Ship 7 Cruisers 4 Interceptors 2 Assault Frigs 1 Thanatos Carrier 12 Pods RISE lost 1 Frig 1 Assault Frig 1 Inty 1 Cruiser 1 Battleship 2 Pods Every operation where RONIN attemps to challenge us fails utterly; their false belief in thinking that they are a match for the military might of RISE cost them a carrier. How long will RONIN let this senseless fight continue? At this rate and poor combat preformance of RONIN fleets, this war is not sustainable to them. With each passing day RISE is proving time and again that we are the true owners of Outer Ring, and that we have a strong claim to our territory. EDIT: The POS is fine :) Here's the thing, we may have lost a battle last night, then again it doesn't matter because we all have replacements for what we fly and have no problem getting new ones when needed. Checking the KB and oh, still leading even with the carrier loss which should tell something about your effort in this conflict. Then again, add your friends to it (VC, KoS etc etc) and suddenly the numbers doesn't look so good anymore eh? Can we expect a report from every battle here from you guys, sure looks like all 3 of them are here atm :)



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