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RaptorX
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.29 23:42:00 -
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I don't have a fancy signature...
I don't always win every fight I get into...
But you know what?
I'm having fun. Good fights to all.
RaptorX
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Oratu
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.29 23:45:00 -
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Edited by: Oratu on 29/10/2006 23:45:39 Lol omg i now know why i aviod these forums like the ebola virus (this is not a comment directed at the op and all the sensible posters, but to the moron 3rd party, penut gallery figures amongst the posters)....
Ok only posting about 1 thing and 1 thing only, ASCN population estimates..
It seems that either people are surmising (assuming) we have 5000 members or that ascn have told them this number and neglected to to also include the fact that by 5000 they mean alts aswell...
LoL now i assume the number is around 2000, and iam calling that a rough estimate, so 2000 active players, now lets say that this number is a true representation (dont know if it is) of our people power, surely those in bob/other alliances know what timezones are and are aware of the fact that there is life outside of eve and that the human body needs sleep, wives and children need attention ect. ect.
Iam not going to tell you publicly the mean average number of pilots on ant any given time, iam sure bob knows, it would be a grave mistake if they did not have that sort of intelligence (no not smart dumb intelligence, as in information intelligence), but ask yourself this, how many people are in your corp / alliance, then check your alliance chat, do the statistics, and please to all those who say "well they got 5000 members" please obtain your self a life outside of eve and or go back to school.
RL example of timezone logic: let say microsoft have 200,000 workers (most of them bug fixers hehehehehe), if you assume that means on monday morning there will be 200,000 people in the smoko room, well, no comment..
RL example of life logic: ummmmm do i really need to give one ??? if u need one u really need to get out more, simple fact is, lol, eve is a game that a lot of muture (and a lot that are not so mature) people pay to play for fun and do not live on there computer (obviously there are some that do choose the eve life, for the lack of a better term)
that is all, gl to all, see yas out there
regards
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Kaemper
Gallente Itchy logistics
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Posted - 2006.10.29 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Einkeisel And upon what evidence did you draw that conclusion ? Please point to me where we have ever lied or not stated facts.
lol you are kiddin' right? ah yes the good old 'keep those who oppose you occupied' tactic.. well i couldnt be bothered.. for one id be perm banned for spamming ;) but u know what... if you provide me with all the alt names in BoB i promise ill eve mail u a complete list of jibberish ever posted by BoB :)
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.29 23:51:00 -
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Oratu, people ignore that point since it goes for everyone equally.
BoB has 1600 members, which probably are about 400-500 actual people, of which only part is active.
We do however regularly see a higher then 80% participation on our main ops. That's what counts.
When people say ASCN has 5000+ members they mean that for an alliance that total size, getting double our amount of pilots even if we have an 80+% participation grade should be pretty doable.
Personally, I think the point is moot. I'm convinced that in the long run ASCN loses either way. A very high participation rate may just slow us down.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Kaemper propaganda ftl...
Dont mistake an unplesant truth with propaganda. If the truth of the current situation is considered bob propaganda then the future doesnt look bright for ascn.
You kidding? Look at the words he used and tell me with a straight face this isnt propaganda. Btw, a honest question, who are you trying to impress here? Do you seriously believe people will read the nonsense and "be afraid" lol??
Originally by: SirMolle ASCN is feeling the cold, chilling tendrils of fear creep into the hearts of their alliance.
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Oratu
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Oratu on 30/10/2006 00:05:55
hey rod :)
i disagree with the way people are painting the picture is silly and i understand that pop stats are comparitive...
Yeah bob have less than we do, i dont dispute that fact, but numbers are easlily distorted or "dressed up/dressed down" by the average person.
ie. whats wieghs more ton of bricks or ton of feathers ie. 8 = infinity
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:19:00 -
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Quote: as for getting that fight to the front, well iam not a liberty to comment.....
Don't worry, we've read it too
We'll see. We're not close to giving you our all yet either.
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thoth foc
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Kaemper propaganda ftl...
Dont mistake an unplesant truth with propaganda. If the truth of the current situation is considered bob propaganda then the future doesnt look bright for ascn.
You kidding? Look at the words he used and tell me with a straight face this isnt propaganda. Btw, a honest question, who are you trying to impress here? Do you seriously believe people will read the nonsense and "be afraid" lol??
I'm sure it's been said before, but the best propaganda is "the truth".. Too often the ASCN leadership has tried to imply that "Bob propaganda" is just a big lie, that ascn are really holding their own.. During this war, the truth has been the only propaganda needed..
Your suffering heavy loses pretty much every fight.. To the extent that you forces sit in POS nearly 23/7 in systems we're active in..
Your HC sent / or corps decided themselves, to leave your frontline as it began to crumble, prefering to try and find some easy ganks in delve and fountain, than support their fellow members that eventually lost the fight to hold gq2 or h8-
Maybe you dont like the phrasing or the words, maybe you think this post is designed to instill fear.. honestly i rather doubt that.. words without actions are useless.. and if the ease with which we took your stations hasnt set alarm bells ringing, then i cant believe a simple post would suddenly change that..
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Kaemper propaganda ftl...
Dont mistake an unplesant truth with propaganda. If the truth of the current situation is considered bob propaganda then the future doesnt look bright for ascn.
You kidding? Look at the words he used and tell me with a straight face this isnt propaganda. Btw, a honest question, who are you trying to impress here? Do you seriously believe people will read the nonsense and "be afraid" lol??
LoL you read your HC's nonesense and believe it ... so yeah i have no doubt your shaking in your boots right about now ... No wait cyvok will just put up a new post telling you how attacking that mining corp that we have +ve up in venal is gonna aid you in the war...
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:30:00 -
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I've had ascn members eve-mail me and tell me that it's over and bob have lost the war...honestly, you're trying to spout some mashed up propoganda/fiction that makes you feel confident to someone who knows the facts and convince them to swap sides.
My allegance lies with my Alliance and its host BoB.
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
You kidding? Look at the words he used and tell me with a straight face this isnt propaganda.
ok. What part specifically is incorrect?
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Btw, a honest question, who are you trying to impress here? Do you seriously believe people will read the nonsense and "be afraid" lol??
Not at all. You missed the point. My post was not meant to scare anyone, just bring the truth to the surface.
Its not my words that will cause any fear. It is your leadership methods that will create it. That was my point.
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kaemper
Originally by: Dr Einkeisel And upon what evidence did you draw that conclusion ? Please point to me where we have ever lied or not stated facts.
lol you are kiddin' right? ah yes the good old 'keep those who oppose you occupied' tactic.. well i couldnt be bothered.. for one id be perm banned for spamming ;) but u know what... if you provide me with all the alt names in BoB i promise ill eve mail u a complete list of jibberish ever posted by BoB :)
Exactly what everyone says when confronted after comming on a thread invovling bob and pointlessly flaming.
You show up and smack making broad statements about bob lies/propaganda. When confronted and asked specifically what was a lie you make up vague excuses and are unable to back up what you say.
Doesnt that make you the one doing exactly what you accuse bob of doing?
The only honest part of your posts was when you said "tbqh i have absolutely no idea of whats going on".
Post specifically what facts we got wrong or your posts are just unfounded flames. Without that you deserve no further respose and thats exactly what you will get.
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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Rebellion
Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: NTRabbit
Originally by: The Empire of Grief
<KomradeVirtunov> That post gets a 10/10 <&NTRabbit> i dunno <&NTRabbit> post feels too try-hardish <&NTRabbit> too forced <~Stavros> agree <~Stavros> it would be more at home in WOW than in eve <~Stavros> too many stupid metaphors/similies <&NTRabbit> yeah <~Stavros> You have lost Paragon Soul. The name itself symbolic in that BoB is now as a paragon of the soul of war, <~Stavros> *** <&NTRabbit> rhetoric is useful, but only if its intelligible
The Empire of Grief has spoken
I know, my skin crawls when I reread some parts of it again. The most coherent parts are the ones written by Digi. I had little to work with, though, and was sorely tempted to word it like "Hay ASCN!!11 we are in your baes, killing your mans!" However. ****ing off Stavros is the surest confirmation that we've said things in the best way possible. PS: Hi HG!
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Gungankllr
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:58:00 -
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The way I see it.
This post is written from my point of view. It doesn't mean this is the view of anybody else in the Ascendant Frontier or my corporation.
Around the map I have been. I've seen the good, the bad and the ugly in Eve over these past three+ years.
From CFS, to BoB, to FIX, to Kimotoro Directive, to ASCN, I've been quite the vagabond.
I've had the honor of flying with some really great folks, some average folks, and some downright idiots.
In all my travels, in a grand total of six MMORPG's I've played, the best bunch of kindred souls I've met is in ASCN. I don't say that lightly.
BoB takes pretty much every chance they get to push our shortcomings in fleet battles down our throat and everybody elses. Yep. We've lost some doozies. I won't deny that.
When you think about it, ASCN wasn't founded to be the pinnacle of PVP, we were founded because a group of like-minded people had a goal, and a dream.
We wanted to set up a 0.0 empire which echoed or even surpassed the greatness of the five empires. So what that meant was we grouped together a cohesive mass of people whom had the same basic ideals, and went to work.
We mined, researched, hauled, and pulled our hair out placing our outposts and POS network. There is not a single entity besides chinese isk farmers and macro miners that can say they have worked as hard at Eve as we have.
The results speak for themselves, over a dozen outposts and enough POS to make the database whimper after every downtime. To secure all of our space, many of our members kept their PVP skills sharp through hunting down and killing enemies that would invade and by putting roaming gangs together to voyage to the space of our enemies.
That being said, we never really needed Battleship fleets, as we weren't going after anyone else in large fleets except invaders. If an invading force brought a large battleship contingent, we could amass a massive blob and either make them log, make them run or make them die.
So now enters the new enemy, someone who was an old friend. BoB is one of the best in game when it comes to fleet battles, I absolutely concede that point. In the beginning of this conflict, many of our members had very little experience with large scale conflict, and it really showed.
I knew what to expect, mostly from the amount of fleet battles I've participated in. Some of our guys were caught flat-footed, because they were used to winning without needing to do some of the basic fleet-operations musts.
Like aligning to a safespot and going to full speed when the enemies warp in. Or mounting plates and damage mods. Or Specific EW, or overview settings.
Every fight we engage in teaches our Fleet Commanders something new, and forges our members into a more effective fighting force.
SirMolle makes a post here, makes a post there.
I know that there's been some vitriol lashed back and forth about "Propaganda" in Eve.
Molle's posts are leaflets being dropped behind enemy lines to weaken the resolve of his enemy.
You make a very persuasive argument, whoever wrote that for you has a gift with words.
Except I happen to see things a little bit differently, having not fallen off the turnip truck this morning.
If BoB was so much better than ASCN in all things as they state, they wouldn't have to relay ASCN teamspeak to win their fleet battles as they have in the past.
They wouldn't have to tell everyone on the forums how much better they are than ASCN every chance they get.
And most of all, they wouldn't have old friends of mine try to convince me to turn traitor and offline our POS network so they wouldn't have to deal with it.
It's not how you win or lose, it's how you play the game.
Tick tock, indeed.
Your clock is right twice a day, but it's still broken.
See you in space.
Hidden in this signature is a secret message.
Send me isk, Caracals cost money.
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Caybn E'vangel
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.30 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr
You make a very persuasive argument, whoever wrote that for you has a gift with words.
That would be the man who posted directly above yours.
And yes, yes he does.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.30 01:16:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 30/10/2006 01:17:47
Originally by: Gungankllr
..nice post..
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That being said, we never really needed Battleship fleets, as we weren't going after anyone else in large fleets except invaders. If an invading force brought a large battleship contingent, we could amass a massive blob and either make them log, make them run or make them die...
Thats a nice post GK, much like the other good post you made right at the beginning of the war...
.. however, your post actually contains the reason why ASCN is going to suffer horribly in this war.. and I highlighted it in italics...
Your leadership is guilty of gross negligence for not drilling its troops in basic fleet warfare beyond the obvious blob tactics and that goes for your FC's too, which seem to be lacking.
ASCN has so much to learn and seems to be so lacking in basic fleet manouvres, that it is quite possible that the rate at which you improve will not keep up with the rate at which BoB will gobble up your territory.
ASCN is guilty of falling into the carebear trap... and BoB is gonna shake the living daylights out of you... its quite possible that you won't survive the shock to the system.
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Darkstar BP
Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.30 01:30:00 -
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It's so nice to see our opponents so concerned about the quality of our leadership. So concerned for the 'exploitation' by our devious leaders. Some nice advice from the people who need to use the lamest tactics in and outside the game to try and get the upper hand.
We, the ASCN grunts, have seen the tactics, the spies, the attempts to bribe our people, the mass log-off node crashes. Nothing that you say or write as 'honest' or 'factual' critique hits home with our player base after those shenanigans.
Must be frustrating for you. I fully understand that our opponents need more posts to try to keep up the pressure. Looking forward to SirMolle's daily 'morale booster' on these forums soon. He didn't need so many words, and so much drama, in previous wars.
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Kastar
As to the content of Molle's post... I'm pretty sure he's one of the most illiterate and wellwriting folks I've seen on these boards.
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Darknesss
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.10.30 01:34:00 -
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one word for this post... pretentious. Do you seriously believe you are going to be the end of ASCN, we all know how this story will end, no one will win. I am not trying to smack, im trying to do as BoB say they are doing and presenting facts. ASCN may take more ship losses, you may defeat them in fleet battles but at the end of the day theres only so long you can carry on for.
And we cant all forget they did take an outpost from Xelas which tbh was impressive considering theyre your meatshields, and is almost the same as taking one from yourselves.
BoB have fantastic fleet capabilities, this cannot be denied however the constant posts of victories is getting stale, with the spin your posts put on the war you would have everyone think ASCN are living in Jita mining veldspar crying about how good BoB are.
Statistics win fights, results win wars.
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.30 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Darkstar BP
We, the ASCN grunts, have seen the tactics, the spies, the attempts to bribe our people
I suppose you think your alliance is above this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 2006.10.22 03:52:05 ] pershphanie > not necessarily [ 2006.10.22 03:52:35 ] Uhmari > i am a fc here, why for us, and when bob dies, you can join ds1, we are 1/2 of the capital fleet in the alliance an all of us know what we are doing [ 2006.10.22 03:52:43 ] Uhmari > spy for us* [ 2006.10.22 03:53:00 ] pershphanie > lol. i dont spy for anyone :) [ 2006.10.22 03:53:08 ] Uhmari > you can [ 2006.10.22 03:53:10 ] pershphanie > not even when i was PA [ 2006.10.22 03:53:18 ] pershphanie > i CAN, buit i wouldnt [ 2006.10.22 03:53:48 ] Uhmari > Bob is near impossible to get a spy into [ 2006.10.22 03:54:16 ] Uhmari > you could get a big reward, and join us after we beat bob [ 2006.10.22 03:54:20 ] Uhmari > they cant win persh you know that [ 2006.10.22 03:54:28 ] Uhmari > they are losing, and i know their battle plan [ 2006.10.22 03:55:08 ] Uhmari > i can arrange any request you have in payment for that [ 2006.10.22 03:55:23 ] pershphanie > well i would never spy on any corperation im in or have been in. NP with the use of spys, just never going to be me [ 2006.10.22 03:55:28 ] Uhmari > and it would be good to have you on my side again =) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
There goes that theroy....
Its not that your alliance is above the use of such methods, you just arent good at it.
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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SmEdD
Amarr Nocturnal Soldiers
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Posted - 2006.10.30 02:04:00 -
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Edited by: SmEdD on 30/10/2006 02:04:09
Originally by: Darknesss And we cant all forget they did take an outpost from Xelas which tbh was impressive considering theyre your meatshields, and is almost the same as taking one from yourselves.
Umm BoB was told not to bother with helping to take it back, ASCN and Celest took it at the worst possible time for XS as 3 major PVP corps left and their lead FC. Along with that the corp that setup the POS's to take over didn't do the best planning TBH . . .
ASCN will not hold the outpost for long and they havn't it has been station ping pong. One hour XS owns it another hour ASCN owns it. They are wasting their time screwing with XS while BoB is taking all their space.
This is what space looked like this morning after BoB took H8 (the 2nd ASCN system). They are fighting someone who was not in the war until they launched a full fledged assault on XS on the other side of the universe, one of the dumbest things I have ever seen TBH. Why attack another alliance who was not in the war when you are already having your own issues at home (not to mention it is on the other side of the universe). Also with the attack on PNQY-Y (Xelas Home System) it has put other BoB friends on edge or pulled them into the war which is very bad for ASCN.
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Celero Incendium
Fist of the Goat
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Posted - 2006.10.30 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie Dont mistake an unplesant truth with propaganda. If the truth of the current situation is considered bob propaganda then the future doesnt look bright for ascn.
SirMolle posted 15 paragraphs. The only "truth", as in a provable "fact", is in the first sentance of paragraph number 9, where he states that BoB have taken GQ2 and H8-ZTO. The rest was a psychological attack aimed at destroying the morale and unity of ASCN pilots.
Countless posts in this thread, and many others, aim to undermine the authority of ASCN High Command and destroy the morale of the ASCN pilots. You can not deny that a large front of this war has been fought on these forums, in fact it's even been admitted to at least once (I believe it was Dianabolic that stated "we consider the forums an extension of the game", but I could be off on the actual source and quote). Yet every day, every time I read through these threads I do see BoB pilots attempt to deny this by saying such trite things as "Dont mistake an unplesant truth with propaganda."
If you respond by stating that ASCN high command are telling their members lies, or that ASCN have already lost, or spout off more nonsense about K:D ratio of Battleships in this war, then you are merely proving my point.
The reasoning behind these attacks against ASCN morale is obvious - the quickest way to defeat your enemy is by making them crumble from within. What's not obvious is whether or not they are working. Only time will tell.
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Darkstar BP
Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.30 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Darkstar BP
We, the ASCN grunts, have seen the tactics, the spies, the attempts to bribe our people
I suppose you think your alliance is above this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 2006.10.22 03:52:05 ] pershphanie > not necessarily [ 2006.10.22 03:52:35 ] Uhmari > i am a fc here, why for us, and when bob dies, you can join ds1, we are 1/2 of the capital fleet in the alliance an all of us know what we are doing [ 2006.10.22 03:52:43 ] Uhmari > spy for us* [ 2006.10.22 03:53:00 ] pershphanie > lol. i dont spy for anyone :) [ 2006.10.22 03:53:08 ] Uhmari > you can [ 2006.10.22 03:53:10 ] pershphanie > not even when i was PA [ 2006.10.22 03:53:18 ] pershphanie > i CAN, buit i wouldnt [ 2006.10.22 03:53:48 ] Uhmari > Bob is near impossible to get a spy into [ 2006.10.22 03:54:16 ] Uhmari > you could get a big reward, and join us after we beat bob [ 2006.10.22 03:54:20 ] Uhmari > they cant win persh you know that [ 2006.10.22 03:54:28 ] Uhmari > they are losing, and i know their battle plan [ 2006.10.22 03:55:08 ] Uhmari > i can arrange any request you have in payment for that [ 2006.10.22 03:55:23 ] pershphanie > well i would never spy on any corperation im in or have been in. NP with the use of spys, just never going to be me [ 2006.10.22 03:55:28 ] Uhmari > and it would be good to have you on my side again =) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
There goes that theroy....
Its not that your alliance is above the use of such methods, you just arent good at it.
Banter from someone, not involved in ASCN in upper command, in local, does not constitute an attempt to spy by 'ASCN'. I'd be very disappointed if someone from your team would fall for that.
I've read smacktalk from your alliance mates in local about making 'love' to dead bodies - I don't take that seriously either. Neither should you take that post serious. And you didn't too, otherwise you wouldn't try to dig it up 9 days later.
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Kastar
As to the content of Molle's post... I'm pretty sure he's one of the most illiterate and wellwriting folks I've seen on these boards.
Then credit sh |
Ab Initio
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.30 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Darkstar BP We, the ASCN grunts, have seen the tactics, the spies, the attempts to bribe our people.
Apparently they're not forwarding on the internal posts of ours showing ASCN members coming to us with offers of spying for us? From memory, the last one that tried it had there CEO invited into the chat, and was subsequently removed from the corp.
If you don't want to believe what we have to say. Don't. But don't be so naieve as to follow without question. Think for your self, because at the moment your just towing the company line.
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Zak Kingsman
A.W.M
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Posted - 2006.10.30 02:14:00 -
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Edited by: Zak Kingsman on 30/10/2006 02:15:21 Truth is not necessarily fact.
I could say I'm going to try to kill you. Which is not a fact as it can neither be proven or dis-proven.
But it could very well be the truth.
I could also say the more confident statement I am going to kill you.
Again with the same results.
Therefore when Molle or anyone else in BoB says we are going to destroy your alliance. Or Your Alliance is dying.
It may not be fact. It could however, be very much the truth.
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Darkstar BP
Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.30 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ab Initio Think for your self, because at the moment your just towing the company line.
You follow the company line of the other 200,000 BoB posts very well. Please think for you self.
Your organization has taken this to these forums, spamming it with 200,000 versions of 'the BoB company line' without any critical thought on the progress of this war. In an obvious and blatant attempt to spin events under the banner of 'telling the truth', hoping to convince ASCN members to question their leadership.
Originally by: Ab Initio Apparently they're not forwarding on the internal posts of ours showing ASCN members coming to us with offers of spying for us?
Puzzling sentence. Wait, you couldn't be telling me that BoB leadership keeps anything from the BoB members .
Only our devious leaders would do such a thing.
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Kastar
As to the content of Molle's post... I'm pretty sure he's one of the most illiterate and wellwriting folks I've seen on these boards.
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.30 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Darkstar BP Banter from someone, not involved in ASCN in upper command, in local, does not constitute an attempt to spy by 'ASCN'. I'd be very disappointed if someone from your team would fall for that.
It wasnt in local, it was a private convo with an ASCN squad commander. He said he had cyvoks authority to proceed and had prepared to pay me a heavty payment from ASCN if i delivered certain intel to him.
If offering to pay me for intel "does not constitute an attempt to spy by 'ASCN'" then im not sure what does really. It still shows that while you may not be good at collecting intel, it isnt for lack of trying.
You guys have an excuse for everything. It's ok for ascn members to attempt to spy, but if a bob member were to do the same thing we are cheaters. Gotta love the double standard.
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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Darkstar BP
Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.30 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: Darkstar BP on 30/10/2006 02:35:26
Originally by: pershphanie It wasnt in local, it was a private convo with an ASCN squad commander. He said he had cyvoks authority to proceed and had prepared to pay me a heavty payment from ASCN if i delivered certain intel to him.
If you had done your homework, you would have noticed that the person had been in the alliance for 6 days........ Enough said.
As I said, you took it very seriously, and reported this direct 'ASCN HC-approved' spying attempt to the propaganda boards.... after 9 days.
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Kastar
As to the content of Molle's post... I'm pretty sure he's one of the most illiterate and wellwriting folks I've seen on these boards.
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Havras
The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.30 02:37:00 -
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Edited by: Havras on 30/10/2006 02:38:44
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Darkstar BP Banter from someone, not involved in ASCN in upper command, in local, does not constitute an attempt to spy by 'ASCN'. I'd be very disappointed if someone from your team would fall for that.
It wasnt in local, it was a private convo with an ASCN squad commander. He said he had cyvoks authority to proceed and had prepared to pay me a heavty payment from ASCN if i delivered certain intel to him.
If offering to pay me for intel "does not constitute an attempt to spy by 'ASCN'" then im not sure what does really. It still shows that while you may not be good at collecting intel, it isnt for lack of trying.
You guys have an excuse for everything. It's ok for ascn members to attempt to spy, but if a bob member were to do the same thing we are cheaters. Gotta love the double standard.
LOL. You don't even have a clue what your saying. In ASCN anyone that wants to form a gang and lead it is a Squad Commander. It has no specific importance in the Alliance chain of command. No matter what the person might believe.
I've been a fleet commander in the past doesn't mean I speak for ASCN as a whole.
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Ab Initio
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.30 02:44:00 -
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Edited by: Ab Initio on 30/10/2006 02:45:38
Originally by: Darkstar BP You follow the company line of the other 200,000 BoB posts very well. Please think for you self.
You don't know me, and I don't know you. If you did, you would know that I have a large number of friends in the ASCN alliance. If there is any reason for my posts on these forums, it would be the vague hope that THEY read them and consider their position.
As I said previously, believe what you want. I would rather see my friends fighting along side me, than for a leadership that puts moral boosting above the real needs of their alliance.
Originally by: Darkstar BP Puzzling sentence. Wait, you couldn't be telling me that BoB leadership keeps anything from the BoB members .
Only our devious leaders would do such a thing.
The point was simple While accusing us of using every dirty trick in the book, someone neglected to mention that we've been making you aware of those offering to spy for us.
It's not something I would expect your leadership to draw attention to. You have to admit though, the whole emphasising information relevant to the cause, while deemphasizing information that doesn't tow the company line sounds vaguely familiar?
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Svetlanna
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.30 02:45:00 -
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Arrogant Post at its best. And exhausting to read. Stop doing that thank you
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