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Svenholio
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Posted - 2006.10.27 13:43:00 -
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I would really like to get myself into one of these ships, a mere 155 days of training :D, however, where can I use them?
Am I right in thinking that neither can be used in high sec space? and that neither can pass through a gate?
Would be a bit poo if that is the case, but hey ho.
Svenholio
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Trracer
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.10.27 13:47:00 -
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Carriers are for 0.4 space and lower. Afaik you cannot assign fighters in 0.4 space either (but in 0.3 and below). Only way to travel is by cynofields if you want to leave system.
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Svenholio
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Posted - 2006.10.27 13:53:00 -
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Such a shame, I guess I will need to join a fully fleged 0.0 corp when I am ready to use it, but that means I will need to do pvp, when I much prefer mission running.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.10.27 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Svenholio Such a shame, I guess I will need to join a fully fleged 0.0 corp when I am ready to use it, but that means I will need to do pvp, when I much prefer mission running.
Cant use them on missions (for the most part) now either. They arent allowed to enter deadspace.
...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative.
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Svenholio
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Posted - 2006.10.27 14:38:00 -
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Oh come one, thats just not fair really is it, the top tier of the game is being blocked to mission runners, fair enough, all of them can be done in a BS with moderate ease, but for me, and imagine others, its all about getting into a nice big assed space ship. I see no real problem with allowing the carriers to be used in missions.
I suppose this could be open to abuse though, carrier ganking in high sec possibly?
Am I also correct in thinking that the Thanatos and alike are too big to be docked in a station?
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Tehel Necrona
Minmatar Black Omega Security The OSS
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Posted - 2006.10.27 14:42:00 -
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u can dock a carrier/thanatos in a station, but not a NYX u prolly won't be able to afford a NYX anyways
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Svenholio
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Posted - 2006.10.27 14:45:00 -
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True, I was thinking more of the Thanatos anyway :D
Hmm, never fancied doing missions in 0.3 or lower, but I could give it a try I suppose.
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Sniser
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.27 14:46:00 -
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capital ships are for alliances not for missions
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Svenholio
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Posted - 2006.10.27 14:49:00 -
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Any ship should be for whatever the pilot wants to use it for
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Salusa VC
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.10.27 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Sniser capital ships are for alliances not for missions
Not just for alliances
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Tehel Necrona
Minmatar Black Omega Security The OSS
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Posted - 2006.10.27 16:27:00 -
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Remember, most ppl in eve realise this game is not just missions. Most know that it's a PvP game. So don't be surprised when some ships are designed without running missions in mind. Although in the future, we may see some new high lvl missions that require a cap ship fleet to complete them, so it's still worth training for them.
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Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.10.27 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Svenholio Any ship should be for whatever the pilot wants to use it for
Yes, I demand to use my freighter for mining
Think first, then hit post button?
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Kojiami
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Posted - 2006.10.27 17:29:00 -
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My corp mate uses a dreadnaught for solo PVP. It works too - sensor boosters, webs, etc. You CAN use a ship for whatever you like if you have the isk to back it up.
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Deadeye Dave
Amarr DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2006.10.27 17:41:00 -
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Weren't capitals recently changed so they couldn't enter deadspace? thus they would not be able to do missions, and yes it is a waste of ISK for missions you will only require a Battleship and some skills and with the amount of ISK for a Carrier you could buy some very nice faction gear and a very nice faction battleship.
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Svenholio
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Posted - 2006.10.27 19:02:00 -
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Pestillence, try not to be a nurk.
Part of the game is PvP, not the whole, missions are an integral part of EVE life.
Yes, its a shame I cant use it right now for what I want, but hopefully in the future I will be able too, so I will train for it. Get me a Thanatos :D
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Mike Yagon
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.27 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Svenholio Any ship should be for whatever the pilot wants to use it for
I agree with this. People that claim how carriers should be used either don't fly them themselves or aren't capable of creative, out-of-the-box thinking. Carriers only cost as much as a faction battleship anyway.
Anyway, carriers used to be able to enter deadspace, but it ended up a huge farming exploit as people could just turn on their tank, afk while the fighters gank. Other fun exploits with carriers in complexes appeared soon too. CCP removed their access in a hotfix a couple of weeks ago.
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Epsilon 1
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2006.10.28 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: Svenholio Pestillence, try not to be a nurk.
Part of the game is PvP, not the whole, missions are an integral part of EVE life.
Yes, its a shame I cant use it right now for what I want, but hopefully in the future I will be able too, so I will train for it. Get me a Thanatos :D
Ebay is bad.
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Svenholio
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Posted - 2006.10.28 15:19:00 -
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Wth are you on about, add something useful to the thread or bugger off
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.10.28 15:30:00 -
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A ship that is too huge to use a gate is too huge to use a gate, k?
It would be extremely stupid for the "empire factions" to allow pod-pilots in their space with ships that Concord can't handle, k?
Really really hard to get that?
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Mike Yagon
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.28 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: dalman ships that Concord can't handle
You'll be surprised to see what CONCORD can handle, given enough time. I think CONCORD doubles in numbers every minute the target is not dead.
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Damien Crow
Finis Lumen Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.10.28 16:10:00 -
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Slightly off but as it was said earlier, the nyx and other mothership carriers cannot be docked... I always wondered, how does one switch to another ship if it cannot be docked? I imagine at a POS or something?
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hangnoose
Caldari Repo Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.28 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Svenholio Pestillence, try not to be a nurk.
Part of the game is PvP, not the whole, missions are an integral part of EVE life.
Yes, its a shame I cant use it right now for what I want, but hopefully in the future I will be able too, so I will train for it. Get me a Thanatos :D
They removed capital ships entering deadspace ( complex missions etc ) not to long ago. So if thats all you want it for well... sorry your out of luck. Capital ships were never intended to enter deadspace areas in the first place, just took ccp awhile to fix it.
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Mike Yagon
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.28 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Damien Crow Slightly off but as it was said earlier, the nyx and other mothership carriers cannot be docked... I always wondered, how does one switch to another ship if it cannot be docked? I imagine at a POS or something?
You can drop the Motherships inside a Capital Maintenance Array, where they will be stored. Titans don't fit though, and you'll have to leave it in space.
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Svenholio
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Posted - 2006.10.29 16:21:00 -
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I thought the smaller Thanatos could use gates and dock.
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.10.29 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Svenholio I thought the smaller Thanatos could use gates and dock.
Dock - yes. Gates - no.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Pestillence
Originally by: Svenholio Any ship should be for whatever the pilot wants to use it for
Yes, I demand to use my freighter for mining
Think first, then hit post button?
I can't run missions in my Charon either. That's clearly unfair.
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Talon Calais
Gallente Nubs. Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.29 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Pestillence
Originally by: Svenholio Any ship should be for whatever the pilot wants to use it for
Yes, I demand to use my freighter for mining
Think first, then hit post button?
I can't run missions in my Charon either. That's clearly unfair.
Actually yeah you can :x
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Old Geeza
The Retirement Home
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Posted - 2006.10.29 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Svenholio Oh come one, thats just not fair really is it, the top tier of the game is being blocked to mission runners, fair enough, all of them can be done in a BS with moderate ease, but for me, and imagine others, its all about getting into a nice big assed space ship. I see no real problem with allowing the carriers to be used in missions.
The top tier of the game is alliance warfare, which capital ships were designed for they require multiple people to help provide logistics for and are not designed for farming ISK semi-afk. If you see no problem with it, then you might as well ask yourself what's the point of having missions in a first place when you can just anihilate everything in each stage without breaking a sweat.
The top tier of mission running is a fully pimped out navy raven, not a capital ship.
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr Karjala Inc. Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.29 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Talon Calais
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Pestillence
Originally by: Svenholio Any ship should be for whatever the pilot wants to use it for
Yes, I demand to use my freighter for mining
Think first, then hit post button?
I can't run missions in my Charon either. That's clearly unfair.
Actually yeah you can :x
The real question is can you tank a 0.0 plex with a freighter?
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.10.29 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Deadeye Dave Weren't capitals recently changed so they couldn't enter deadspace? thus they would not be able to do missions, and yes it is a waste of ISK for missions you will only require a Battleship and some skills and with the amount of ISK for a Carrier you could buy some very nice faction gear and a very nice faction battleship.
They cannot use accel gates. If the mission is just you warping to them, like at a blockade mission, you can still use a capship.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Samirol on 29/10/2006 19:23:07 i want my imaginary charon to be able to use a cyno field, i should be able to play the game how i want
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Svenholio
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:51:00 -
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If you can semi-afk missions all ready in a domi/navy raven I dont see the difference.
For me its not about doing the missions afk, like alot of you are obviously doing, its about being in a nice big shiney new ship and having fun.
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.10.29 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Svenholio If you can semi-afk missions all ready in a domi/navy raven I dont see the difference.
For me its not about doing the missions afk, like alot of you are obviously doing, its about being in a nice big shiney new ship and having fun.
How is it fun when it's not a challenge?
There's no difference in fun-factor of afking a mission or spinning it around in a station.
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Hon Kovell
Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ather Ialeas The real question is can you tank a 0.0 plex with a freighter?
Remote reppers/boosters? Use the Freighter as a big slab of armour to soak up the damage. The lack of resistances would be a handicap so you would need a lot of remote repping going on but it's doable. |
Mag's
Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mike Yagon
Originally by: dalman ships that Concord can't handle
You'll be surprised to see what CONCORD can handle, given enough time. I think CONCORD doubles in numbers every minute the target is not dead.
Actually not correct. On the test server in empire, I tanked concord for 24 mins with standard T2 gear.
4 Battleships 2 Cruisers 2 Frigs
Never more or less.
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vanBuskirk
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.30 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Deadeye Dave Weren't capitals recently changed so they couldn't enter deadspace? thus they would not be able to do missions, and yes it is a waste of ISK for missions you will only require a Battleship and some skills and with the amount of ISK for a Carrier you could buy some very nice faction gear and a very nice faction battleship.
They cannot use accel gates. If the mission is just you warping to them, like at a blockade mission, you can still use a capship.
Does that mean you can use a capital ship in deadspace missions without a gate?
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.30 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Svenholio Part of the game is PvP, not the whole
And some ships in EVE are PvP-only
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