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Rafein
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:43:00 -
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and oversight?
And it might be the reason tier 2 BC's are so good, because they will see heavy use
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lofty29
Praxiteles Inc. E N I G M A
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:46:00 -
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The gang size isnt limited to 10. The SQUADRON size is, but then there's wing's, which hold 5 squadrons max. So thats 50 right there. Then there's FLEETS which hold 5 squadrons, so 250. It also helps ALOT with organization of a fleet. Have 1 wing of frigates, 3 of bs's, and 1 of support with 1 of the squadrons there being gang-support ships. See the reasoning? It makes PVP alot better in the long-term IMO. ---
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Rafein
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Rafein on 24/10/2006 16:48:28 Ya, but I'm unsure if gang mods are shared between squads, wings, and fleets.
If not, then you'll want one BC per gang at least.
Linkage for those who have not seen the new skills
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 The gang size isnt limited to 10. The SQUADRON size is, but then there's wing's, which hold 5 squadrons max. So thats 50 right there. Then there's FLEETS which hold 5 squadrons, so 250. It also helps ALOT with organization of a fleet. Have 1 wing of frigates, 3 of bs's, and 1 of support with 1 of the squadrons there being gang-support ships. See the reasoning? It makes PVP alot better in the long-term IMO.
WAIT!
FULL STOP!
OMFG! -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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LaCoHa
Caldari Deep Space Navy Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:49:00 -
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Damn it! I had just given up on my Eos investments! man. I am the worst investor ever. in rl too.
"I just slaughtered 28 people in that game of Battlefield 2 and never died. Man my e-p33n feels huge." |
Cadman Weyland
ISS Navy Task Force
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:50:00 -
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K what does this mean for Command ship pilots like myself ? ive been unable to get onto the test server to check this out ?
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Wild Rho
Amarr Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein Edited by: Rafein on 24/10/2006 16:48:28 Ya, but I'm unsure if gang mods are shared between squads, wings, and fleets.
If not, then you'll want one BC per gang at least.
Linkage for those who have not seen the new skills
tbh maybe that's not such a bad thing. Instead of 1 bc sitting at a safe boosting everyone it encourages fleets to have several providing different types of support for each section plus some extra firepower in fights.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:51:00 -
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Im beginning to feel there are too many changes... information overload! :) --- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |
Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Im beginning to feel there are too many changes... information overload! :)
i've been assimilating info for the past 3 hours. -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Mallick
Northern Intelligence SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:54:00 -
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8x and 12x modifiers on the skills? NO THANK YOU!
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Mallick 8x and 12x modifiers on the skills? NO THANK YOU!
noticed that too.
maybe it would be better to change to 1x, 3x, and 5x respectively. -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Im beginning to feel there are too many changes... information overload! :)
i've been assimilating info for the past 3 hours.
I think I have too... now I feel like I need a Eve manual again...
But its fun!
--- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |
Rafein
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Rafein on 24/10/2006 16:58:15 and Charisma Primary. OMG, Charisma Love
But still, is the tier 2 BC's not getting the gang CPU reduction an oversight, or intentional?
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Edhel
Eternal Silence Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:59:00 -
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wtf? i agree, info overload.. i quit eve, who wants my stuff?
on a serious note though, all these changes are making me uneasy, i fear that those in charge of all these changes won't be able to balance all the new ships and stuff out well enough and well i just fear these changes a lot.
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Lothena
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:59:00 -
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So, does that mean the present leadership skills are changing?
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Tiuwaz
Minmatar Omacron Militia
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Edhel wtf? i agree, info overload.. i quit eve, who wants my stuff?
on a serious note though, all these changes are making me uneasy, i fear that those in charge of all these changes won't be able to balance all the new ships and stuff out well enough and well i just fear these changes a lot.
gimme your stuff, and yes i am serious
Originally by: Oveur This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein Edited by: Rafein on 24/10/2006 16:58:15 and Charisma Primary. OMG, Charisma Love
But still, is the tier 2 BC's not getting the gang CPU reduction an oversight, or intentional?
hope it is intentional, as it would make all tier1 BC's obsolete, bar the brutix. -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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DaemonBarber
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:03:00 -
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May be a typo or a bug, but:
Leadership allows command of a Squad up to 10 members.
Wing Command allows command of a wing, and can contain 1 squad per level.
Fleet Command allows command of a fleet, and can contain 1 wing per level.
From the sounds of this - Wing Command 1 and Fleet Command 1 are essentially useless, since a Wing with 1 Squad is just a squad, and a Fleet with 1 wing is just a wing. Either that or it'll cap at lvl 4 and training lvl 5 is just a filler to reach the next tier?
Did I miss something?
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Sathrai
Unlimited Blade Works
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Mallick 8x and 12x modifiers on the skills? NO THANK YOU!
omfg, Charisma is getting love!
We're going to be living in a strange and terrible post-Kali world where decent Charisma suddenly looks to be a not-worthless investment...
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Guurzak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:06:00 -
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Tux posted elsewhere that the T2 BCs do indeed get to fit gangmods; it's just a display oversight that the bonus isn't listed.
I suspect that gang mods will apply at least across wings and probably across fleets. They may have it where fleet commands can boost an entire fleet but BCs and field commands only boost their own wing or squadron.
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Guurzak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: DaemonBarber From the sounds of this - Wing Command 1 and Fleet Command 1 are essentially useless, since a Wing with 1 Squad is just a squad, and a Fleet with 1 wing is just a wing. Either that or it'll cap at lvl 4 and training lvl 5 is just a filler to reach the next tier?
Did I miss something?
Racial Frigate I is useless too. If you're gonna train it you're gonna take it past I anyway.
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Magunus
The Forsakened Few The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: DaemonBarber May be a typo or a bug, but:
Leadership allows command of a Squad up to 10 members.
Wing Command allows command of a wing, and can contain 1 squad per level.
Fleet Command allows command of a fleet, and can contain 1 wing per level.
From the sounds of this - Wing Command 1 and Fleet Command 1 are essentially useless, since a Wing with 1 Squad is just a squad, and a Fleet with 1 wing is just a wing. Either that or it'll cap at lvl 4 and training lvl 5 is just a filler to reach the next tier?
Did I miss something?
Might be some other interesting bonuses to having a wing or fleet, which would explain what level 1 is for. ---
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe' |
Jintoo Cranspar
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:17:00 -
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Is it just me or is Squadron Command missing from this list?
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Gierling
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:20:00 -
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I want to point out that this is almost to the letter identical to a suggestion I made a while back.
I will heretofore, Smile Beamingly and with Pride
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Talon Calais
Gallente Nubs.
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:20:00 -
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Tux or someone posted in the main BC thread about this being a bug, they can still use command modules.
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Magunus
The Forsakened Few The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jintoo Cranspar Is it just me or is Squadron Command missing from this list?
Guess they didn't want to change the current version since it's used for tech 2 BCs. ---
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe' |
Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cadman Weyland K what does this mean for Command ship pilots like myself ? ive been unable to get onto the test server to check this out ?
At a guess, that you'll be in more demand. If a 50 man gang wants to all be boosted by gang mods, they'll need 5 Command Ships instead of 1- which means mroe people will want to be your friend -----------------------------------------------
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meowmixmeow
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:29:00 -
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Can anyone confirm whether or not this actively is capping gang sizes on Sisi please...
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Rafein
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:00:00 -
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well, squad command already is in game, and has a use, it boosts ganglink modifier's.
which does add make us wonder more if gang links are shared across squads.
Unless CCP does somehting neat, where BC's can affect squads max, tier 2 Field command become wing command, and affect wings, and Fleet commands's ganglinks can reach all members of the fleet
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:02:00 -
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We now need skills to form a gang like its for max members of a corp?
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