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Mi Sing
Crusaders Transcendancy
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Posted - 2011.04.07 14:01:00 -
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Has anyone run the new DED Complexes? And if so, how do they compare to the previously existing ones?
First player topic, BTW. |
Ericdon
REDLEGION
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Posted - 2011.04.07 14:20:00 -
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I haven't personally, I'm just wondering if the 4/10 Guristas are still available in empire. |
Zangorus
Kinetic Cartel Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.04.07 15:06:00 -
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I would also be interested in the answers. |
Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.04.07 15:08:00 -
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I also hope the 4/10 is available in high sec. Maybe in only 0.6 or 0.5 systems though. |
Shuckstar
Hauling hogs
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Posted - 2011.04.07 15:14:00 -
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Found one 4/10 it a 0.5 last night, but found loads of 3/10's out of 5 DED's we had 4 escalate. |
Ericdon
REDLEGION
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Posted - 2011.04.07 15:20:00 -
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Shuckstar wrote:Found one 4/10 it a 0.5 last night, but found loads of 3/10's out of 5 DED's we had 4 escalate.
Well that's a good sign at least, I had heard rumors that the 4/10's were heading to low sec only. |
Shuckstar
Hauling hogs
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Posted - 2011.04.07 15:28:00 -
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Ericdon wrote:Shuckstar wrote:Found one 4/10 it a 0.5 last night, but found loads of 3/10's out of 5 DED's we had 4 escalate. Well that's a good sign at least, I had heard rumors that the 4/10's were heading to low sec only.
Maybe there are but haven't implemented it yet. I hope not myself, but as i live in low sec it wouldn't bother me to much. For the high sec only dwellers it could be a pain. Nearly lost my Ishkur in the 4/10, never lost that ship in any the sansha one's i have done before. The ai on npc seemed better and there was far more webbing towers than normal plus light sentry towers. The amount of npc's seemed the same. Was full room instant agro as well. Used to be able to take a group at a time, upon warp in whole pocket instantly agroed me. Will check logs later and post the name of the 4/10 it was we ran. |
Shuckstar
Hauling hogs
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Posted - 2011.04.07 15:30:00 -
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meh double posting ftl |
Dharh
Ace Adventure Corp Blue Meanies
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Posted - 2011.04.07 16:02:00 -
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Ericdon wrote:Shuckstar wrote:Found one 4/10 it a 0.5 last night, but found loads of 3/10's out of 5 DED's we had 4 escalate. Well that's a good sign at least, I had heard rumors that the 4/10's were heading to low sec only.
Please no.
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silent uk
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.04.07 16:13:00 -
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Sansha Military Operation Complex - 7/10 Sansha Prison Camp - 8/10
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Hav0cide
PsyCorp -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.04.07 16:14:00 -
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Guristas Military Operation Complex - 7/10 |
ACESsiggy
Protagonists Of Doom
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:03:00 -
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I haven't been able to do any of them .... heard they were all low sec stuff |
Hav0cide
PsyCorp -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:04:00 -
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ACESsiggy wrote:I haven't been able to do any of them .... heard they were all low sec stuff
They have only done the 0.0 ones at the moment so the 6-10.
The others will come soon. =] |
bassie12bf1
Militaris Industries Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.04.07 18:03:00 -
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My question would be, do the anomalies from factions that didn't have certain DED plexes escalate now? |
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CCP Big Dumb Object
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.07 18:37:00 -
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bassie12bf1 wrote:My question would be, do the anomalies from factions that didn't have certain DED plexes escalate now? Proper escalations were made for each new site, yes. |
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bassie12bf1
Militaris Industries Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.04.07 18:46:00 -
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Nice!, that'll make serpentis hubs actually worth running. |
Merrik Talorra
Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.04.07 19:21:00 -
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Cool. Any word on the new modules yet? |
J'J'J'Jita
Ch'Ch'Ch'Chia Corp
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Posted - 2011.04.07 19:42:00 -
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CCP Big Dumb Object:
You previously stated in a dev blog that "But there's a hiccup in the history of DED. The original production run of DED sites, built so many long eons ago, never went as far as intended. There are gaps in the ranges. We had five pirate factions, but only three "9 of 10" sites. Only two "8 of 10s". And so on. And of all the factions, only the Angel Cartel had a complete set. There was no joy in Mudville."
But, as any player experienced in exploration knows, there are no plexes in-game with a "9 of 10" DED rating. However, there are three "(faction) Fleet Staging Points" which always escalate to final and drop Overseer's Effects, which is unusual for an escalation site. Does this mean CCP considers the Fleet Staging Points to be 9/10s, but the flavor text just does not reflect that in-game?
Also, what is the mysterious 7th plex? I can account for six new ones so far. Can you give us a full listing? Did Serpentis only get a 7/10? Because they're on the short end of the stick in DED plexes and could really use a 6/10 and 8/10. |
Chiroteuthis
Invictus Australis BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.04.07 19:50:00 -
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Just ran the new Guristas 7/10 : Guristas Military Operations Complex. 5 rooms took abbout the same time to run as the 8/10 and demands an equivalent tank. 3rd room has a faction cruiser, 4th room has a faction BS, and the final room has an Overseer BS. Got a 20th Tier Effects and a Pith C-Type EM hardener. Plex had alot of BC so make sure you have a high Thermal resistance. Also noted that CCP added some extra storyline information that you get after running the plex.
I was looking through contracts for new Dread Guristas Items. Saw DG ECM mods, are those new? I've never touched ECM so I don't know. No new Pith stuff though.
Edit: Gimmie Likes |
Lups
NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.07 20:16:00 -
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Chiroteuthis wrote:Just ran the new Guristas 7/10 : Guristas Military Operations Complex. 5 rooms took abbout the same time to run as the 8/10 and demands an equivalent tank. 3rd room has a faction cruiser, 4th room has a faction BS, and the final room has an Overseer BS. Got a 20th Tier Effects and a Pith C-Type EM hardener. Plex had alot of BC so make sure you have a high Thermal resistance. Also noted that CCP added some extra storyline information that you get after running the plex.
I was looking through contracts for new Dread Guristas Items. Saw DG ECM mods, are those new? I've never touched ECM so I don't know. No new Pith stuff though.
Edit: Gimmie Likes
ran the same plex last night and had exatly the same drop. i did find that the further u go through the rooms, the more chance there was of being jammed by the rats.
dg cruiser dropped a tag, 1000 ammo and some named loot, nothing major. 1st dg rat was 13 mill bounty and just dropped a tag with a few bits 2nd dg officer rat was 3 mill, harder to kill and dropped th 20th overseers and pith c-type active heat hardner.
but yeah it tanks like an 8/10..
was expecting a little more out of this mission tbh
edit: dg ecm multispec's have been around as far back as i can rememeber |
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Spectre Wraith
Darwin Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.07 21:05:00 -
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DG ECM modules aren't new, no. |
Saint Lazarus
Pwn 'N Play Chaos Theory Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.07 21:11:00 -
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CCP Big Dumb Object wrote:bassie12bf1 wrote:My question would be, do the anomalies from factions that didn't have certain DED plexes escalate now? Proper escalations were made for each new site, yes.
Best dev name ever <3 |
Xyolon
Universal Fleet Operations Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.04.07 21:25:00 -
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Shuckstar wrote:Found one 4/10 it a 0.5 last night, but found loads of 3/10's out of 5 DED's we had 4 escalate.
DED's do not escalate, only expeditions do. Or maybe those Fleet Staging Points are something like it, escalating DED's, I don't know. But 3/10's are regular DED's which do not escalate. (eg. Serpentis Narcotic Warehouses vs. Serpentis Watch/Vigil)
Serpentis DED 7 should be Serpentis Paramilitary Complex. I didn't run it myself, site was occupied. The guy showed me the loot: Core C-type and 20th Overseer Effect which should mean it's a DED 7.
No news about Serpentis 6, 8 or 9. |
Risingson
Mezzanine Inc
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Posted - 2011.04.08 07:49:00 -
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Xyolon wrote:Shuckstar wrote:Found one 4/10 it a 0.5 last night, but found loads of 3/10's out of 5 DED's we had 4 escalate. DED's do not escalate, only expeditions do. i think they talking anomalies escalating to deds anyone found a new ded-plex via exploration directly or only via escalating anomalies?
edit: please report new sites here if you like them to show up in Eveeye IPS |
Not Funny
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.04.08 08:56:00 -
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Dear (Mr?) CCP Big Dumb Object,
I have tried raising this point in other threads but was ignored, so im hoping you see this one.
Im strongly under the impression that the new sites are both out of balanced and contain a bug.
I have run all the previous Gurista DED complexes, and recently ran the 7/10 "Guristas Military Operations Complex" In doing so i noticed that the site seemed to have rooms that contained an equal amount of incoming DPS in each of the room compared to the 8/10 DED complex, however the 7/10 has 2 extra rooms, meaning it took a noticeably longer amount of time to complete when compared to an 8/10 or 6/10 (30-40% longer?)
Also, the 7/10 was technically harder than an 8/10 due to several things. First, on entering a room, all the npcs will aggro you, unlike other complexes where you can pick off smaller groups before engaging the bulk of the incoming DPS. Ewar is used in the new 7/10, which in its self is not a bad thing, however ewar is almost non-existent in other complexes apart from 10/10 Maze final room. Ewar is also fielded by "Dread Guristas" which feel like they have an increased tank over the usual Dire Guristas that usually do the jamming, again, something that even the 10/10 Maze doesn't do.
Now the "Dread Guristas Commanding Officer", firstly, would have been a nice touch if he had a name, something i almost assumed should have happened and was a little disappointed when i saw his generic name, Its sometimes the little things CCP, thats why we love team BFF so much ;) . Anyway, i digress... This Officer may not be physically any more difficult (his regen seems lower, but base hp higher than 'Screaming' Dewak Humfrey's in the 8/10, but where 'Screaming' Dewak Humfrey's keeps his range, this new officer comes in close to web you. This makes the whole room technically more difficult than the 8/10 due to the fact that speed tanking is now more difficult, as you have a ship with a MONSTER tank slowing you down (web battery dies in seconds to anyone with range or even light drones so its not too much of an issue) However, this is where there is a bug, as i noticed that despite him webbing me, his web didn't actually work, as my speed remained the same.
Finally with regards to this 7/10, the most important point, the reasons anyone does these DED sites, the loots! With the dis-graceful, unbalanced, un-necessaries nurf of 0.0 by CCP Grayscale, i at least expected DED sites to stay the same, but from what i have seen the loot drops from the 7/10 are not even in the same value bracket as those from the 6/10 DED complex. Now maybe because they are new we havent seen the full drop table yet, but from what i have seen and heard so far, i will probably be ignoring 7/10's in the future and either doing 6/10's or 8/10's
I hope you get a chance to read this, and i would appreciate any comments on my feedback, even if they are correcting me :P |
Headlong
Katzbalger Industries
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Posted - 2011.04.08 09:51:00 -
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Not Funny wrote:
Finally with regards to this 7/10, the most important point, the reasons anyone does these DED sites, the loots! With the dis-graceful, unbalanced, un-necessaries nurf of 0.0 by CCP Grayscale, i at least expected DED sites to stay the same, but from what i have seen the loot drops from the 7/10 are not even in the same value bracket as those from the 6/10 DED complex. Now maybe because they are new we havent seen the full drop table yet, but from what i have seen and heard so far, i will probably be ignoring 7/10's in the future and either doing 6/10's or 8/10's
Well that's a pretty common problem when comparing 6/10s to 7/10s. Good examples are all the Serpentis escalations leading to the 7/10 loots. Whether its worth going for the 7/10s in future will probably depend a lot on the general quality of the loot table of the specific faction. For example a pith c-type shield amp should be much more worth than the corresponding gist loot. |
Five 0ne
Tactical Carnage Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2011.04.08 10:33:00 -
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i`ve found a 8/10 , called Sansha Prison Camp , went in bravely with my Nightmare. it has 4 rooms, in the third room there was a faction spawn, and the last room has 4 stasis towers and a structure that is the "final boss" , wich webs, and has a HUGE tank, couldn`t break it with around 900 dps, had to bring a friend in to help out, and in 2, it took around 10 minutes to break it, only to get a 21`st overseer effects and a meta 4 large armor repper. complete waste of time. |
IDGAD
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.04.08 11:24:00 -
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DED Complexes do not always drop complex loot. It's all chance, you can run half a dozen in a row and not get anything good, just the nature of the beast. |
JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:13:00 -
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CCP Big Dumb Object wrote:bassie12bf1 wrote:My question would be, do the anomalies from factions that didn't have certain DED plexes escalate now? Proper escalations were made for each new site, yes.
Do hidden , forlon and forsaken anoms escalate as well ?
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Romandra
These are not the droids you're looking for Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.04.08 17:44:00 -
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From what I've read so far in this thread, it appears that CCP just populated the existing DED rated plexes with the local rats. In Angel space, for instance, there has always been a 7/10 named "Angel Military Operations Complex" with 5 rooms and a final boss that drops C-type stuff. Now, it appears there is at least a Guristas version, and probably a similar one for Sansha, Serps, etc.
So, in the event that you come across a new DED plex, you will likely find data about it if you cross-reference the name of the plex with other 0.0 factions.
And remember: A cargo scanner can be your best friend, especially if you get one of these DED rated plexes as an escalation from an anomaly.
Racist comment removed. Zymugist |
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Romandra
These are not the droids you're looking for Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.04.08 17:45:00 -
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JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:CCP Big Dumb Object wrote:bassie12bf1 wrote:My question would be, do the anomalies from factions that didn't have certain DED plexes escalate now? Proper escalations were made for each new site, yes. Do hidden , forlon and forsaken anoms escalate as well ?
Yes they do.
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Fearless Femme
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.04.08 17:50:00 -
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Romandra wrote:Repeat ***ing is the best kind. Anti-semitic remarks are bad, m'kay?
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Romandra
These are not the droids you're looking for Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.04.08 18:27:00 -
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Fearless Femme wrote:Romandra wrote:Repeat ***ing is the best kind. Anti-semitic remarks are bad, m'kay?
It's never wrong to be ashamed of your heritage. I'm certainly not of mine. |
Xyolon
Universal Fleet Operations Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.04.08 20:21:00 -
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Risingson wrote:Xyolon wrote:Shuckstar wrote:Found one 4/10 it a 0.5 last night, but found loads of 3/10's out of 5 DED's we had 4 escalate. DED's do not escalate, only expeditions do. i think they talking anomalies escalating to deds anyone found a new ded-plex via exploration directly or only via escalating anomalies? edit: please report new sites here if you like them to show up in Eveeye IPS
The Serpentis Paramilitary Complex is a cosmic signature. |
JDeagle
Pwn 'N Play Chaos Theory Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.08 20:30:00 -
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8/10 blood raider prison camp, and yes it was ******* hard. |
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