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dominickthebuff buff
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.24 13:19:16 -
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Ok I was worried I was gonna haved to start over lol |
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
62
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Posted - 2015.03.24 13:32:56 -
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Valyn Horn wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:For those of us with sub-par internet at home, is there an install package for all of the resources? When I was playing with it on Singularity, it took a minute at least to load the model and various skins for a cruiser, let alone a station, I'd rather download the whole thing at school and install that on the desktop at home. I'd recommend setting the "Download all the resource files" flag in the launcher settings. The launcher will then download everything. Better restart the launcher after changing this setting. If we select the Download all the resource files setting, will the game do this in the background or will the launcher force the full download and delay launch of the game? It would be nice if it was Diablo 3 Style, where the game will initially be playable early, but the full texture download happens in the background. My understanding is without the setting checked, we will not download everything, only stuff in our general area, like adjacent systems and whatnot. Is that right? Ideally, I'd like to launch the game as early as possible, but still download everything completely after enough time passes.
As of now, if you choose to download the full set of resources, you cannot log in before everything has been downloaded. We have plans to change.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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Worrff
Viziam Amarr Empire
83
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Posted - 2015.03.24 13:41:27 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:Valyn Horn wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:For those of us with sub-par internet at home, is there an install package for all of the resources? When I was playing with it on Singularity, it took a minute at least to load the model and various skins for a cruiser, let alone a station, I'd rather download the whole thing at school and install that on the desktop at home. I'd recommend setting the "Download all the resource files" flag in the launcher settings. The launcher will then download everything. Better restart the launcher after changing this setting. If we select the Download all the resource files setting, will the game do this in the background or will the launcher force the full download and delay launch of the game? It would be nice if it was Diablo 3 Style, where the game will initially be playable early, but the full texture download happens in the background. My understanding is without the setting checked, we will not download everything, only stuff in our general area, like adjacent systems and whatnot. Is that right? Ideally, I'd like to launch the game as early as possible, but still download everything completely after enough time passes. As of now, if you choose to download the full set of resources, you cannot log in before everything has been downloaded. We have plans to change this.
If you are going to change this, DO NOT remove the current option, as some will still want to have all the resources downloaded before playing. If you must change it, just add a further option.
CCP Philosophy: If it works, break it. If itGÇÖs broken, leave it alone and break something else.
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
62
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Posted - 2015.03.24 13:43:59 -
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Worrff wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Valyn Horn wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:For those of us with sub-par internet at home, is there an install package for all of the resources? When I was playing with it on Singularity, it took a minute at least to load the model and various skins for a cruiser, let alone a station, I'd rather download the whole thing at school and install that on the desktop at home. I'd recommend setting the "Download all the resource files" flag in the launcher settings. The launcher will then download everything. Better restart the launcher after changing this setting. If we select the Download all the resource files setting, will the game do this in the background or will the launcher force the full download and delay launch of the game? It would be nice if it was Diablo 3 Style, where the game will initially be playable early, but the full texture download happens in the background. My understanding is without the setting checked, we will not download everything, only stuff in our general area, like adjacent systems and whatnot. Is that right? Ideally, I'd like to launch the game as early as possible, but still download everything completely after enough time passes. As of now, if you choose to download the full set of resources, you cannot log in before everything has been downloaded. We have plans to change this. If you are going to change this, DO NOT remove the current option, as some will still want to have all the resources downloaded before playing. If you must change it, just add a further option.
Ah, yes. To clarify: We want to give give you the option of starting to play while the launcher is downloading the full resource set. Rest assured, we will not remove the option to download all the resource files.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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Samsara Toldya
Academy of Contradictory Behaviour
270
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Posted - 2015.03.24 13:45:06 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:For those of us with sub-par internet at home, is there an install package for all of the resources? When I was playing with it on Singularity, it took a minute at least to load the model and various skins for a cruiser, let alone a station, I'd rather download the whole thing at school and install that on the desktop at home. I'd recommend setting the "Download all the resource files" flag in the launcher settings. The launcher will then download everything. Better restart the launcher after changing this setting.
Scylla patch file: 29MB - can be copied to an USB stick to use at home "with sub-par internet"
Download all the resource files downloads another 238MB - where are those files stored? Please tell me you are not asking me to copy 13.7GB / 68,074 files / 257 folders (shared cache folder) each time there is something added to the shared cache...
"Export patch" -> 29MB of (29+238MB) Scylla release. I don't need fast internet for those 29MB but the other 238MB.
"Export last shared cache files" ... missing?
That's exactly what I asked for in devblog comments, every answer was: "Yeah, you will be able to download the release somewhere else and copy it on an USB stick to patch your eve installation at home".
Now... where is it? |
Sulya Sheva
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.03.24 13:51:41 -
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ExpNinja wrote:Aria Tensus wrote:If you call this a success I would hate to witness a failure.
The launcher is stuck on an endless loop of "Installing files" and "Downloading EVE launcher update" - those messages alternate rapidly and there is no progress.
If I close the launcher and restart it, then it downloads the update and closes itself, never to be seen again. After relaunching we're back to square one. Same Problem here on normal launcher. (Installing steam version worked flawlessly in less then 2 min) EDIT: Found a fix So the fix i did was I went in to the folder location (After restarting my computer) (C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\EVE) And started the launcher shortcut, After it just magically disappeared I then started the eve application as administrator. This fixed the problem.
Don't forget to change the permissions (give your non administrator account "modify" access) on the SharedData location, otherwise if you run the launcher with your non administrator account it will fail to launch due to permissions errors (which are reported as file not found errors).
Unless of course you're happy to re-setup your overview etc etc and just continue to run eve as an administrator (don't do this). |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
455
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Posted - 2015.03.24 13:54:46 -
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Samsara Toldya wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:For those of us with sub-par internet at home, is there an install package for all of the resources? When I was playing with it on Singularity, it took a minute at least to load the model and various skins for a cruiser, let alone a station, I'd rather download the whole thing at school and install that on the desktop at home. I'd recommend setting the "Download all the resource files" flag in the launcher settings. The launcher will then download everything. Better restart the launcher after changing this setting. Scylla patch file: 29MB - can be copied to an USB stick to use at home "with sub-par internet" Download all the resource files downloads another 238MB - where are those files stored? Please tell me you are not asking me to copy 13.7GB / 68,074 files / 257 folders (shared cache folder) each time there is something added to the shared cache... "Export patch" -> 29MB of (29+238MB) Scylla release. I don't need fast internet for those 29MB but the other 238MB. "Export last shared cache files" ... missing? That's exactly what I asked for in devblog comments, every answer was: "Yeah, you will be able to download the release somewhere else and copy it on an USB stick to patch your eve installation at home". Now... where is it? The patch you export should contain the deltas that were downloaded and applied to the EVE Client binaries (those in the install location).
You can copy the shared resource cache to a portable disk, but there's no way to extract a list of recently added files, without trawling the cache and reading all the file access times. I would imagine what was meant by whatever reply was given to you, was that you can copy that shared cache and use that on other machines, as you wish, but there isn't an 'export last shared cache files' option and I don't think there will be that option, either.
The shared cache location can be seen by opening the settings dialog in the EVE Launcher and viewing the path shown on the Download tab.
As an aside, the full installer is also available for download, but I assume you don't want to copy large quantities of data around, and so 7GB of installer files isn't what you want. |
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Sulya Sheva
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.03.24 14:03:48 -
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Samsara Toldya wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:For those of us with sub-par internet at home, is there an install package for all of the resources? When I was playing with it on Singularity, it took a minute at least to load the model and various skins for a cruiser, let alone a station, I'd rather download the whole thing at school and install that on the desktop at home. I'd recommend setting the "Download all the resource files" flag in the launcher settings. The launcher will then download everything. Better restart the launcher after changing this setting. Scylla patch file: 29MB - can be copied to an USB stick to use at home "with sub-par internet" Download all the resource files downloads another 238MB - where are those files stored? Please tell me you are not asking me to copy 13.7GB / 68,074 files / 257 folders (shared cache folder) each time there is something added to the shared cache... "Export patch" -> 29MB of (29+238MB) Scylla release. I don't need fast internet for those 29MB but the other 238MB. "Export last shared cache files" ... missing? That's exactly what I asked for in devblog comments, every answer was: "Yeah, you will be able to download the release somewhere else and copy it on an USB stick to patch your eve installation at home". Now... where is it?
In the event that this separate resource file archive doesn't exist, you could always do something like use rsync (or windows equivalent) to keep an updated copy of the SharedDate on an external drive. There are plenty of tools around that will only copy modified files/data from a directory tree, so you could patch + download full resources at school/work/wherever, rsync C:\ProgramData\CCP to an external hard drive, then rsync it from that drive to your home computer, only actually copying the changed files. |
Samsara Toldya
Academy of Contradictory Behaviour
270
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Posted - 2015.03.24 14:11:24 -
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CCP Atropos wrote: The shared cache location can be seen by opening the settings dialog in the EVE Launcher and viewing the path shown on the Download tab.
Thx for your reply.
Pre-Scylla: I opened the launcher at work (thankfully I was allowed to do this), download the patch, went to eve directory and copied the 123456_win.patch file to an USB stick, went home, copied patch to eve directory, opened the launcher and the whole patch was applied without downloading anything (low bandwith + volume limit at home).
Post-Scylla: meh... whole shared cache or nothing. It takes quite some time with USB 2.0 to copy those 70,000 files.
Guess I'll have to find the "don't download at all even if demand" option which won't exist...
But maybe I'll test how many Socket Closed I can force with download on demand... clicking an imgurl link in chat helps a lot to create closed sockets on low bandwith - curious to find out if dod will do the same.
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Kudo Sarain
BOVRIL bOREers Mining CO-OP Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2015.03.24 14:21:36 -
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Hi,
I am currently getting this when I try to open my launcher.
I am running windows 8.1
http://pastebin.com/frYqa8qa |
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Veliki Ritoznojcan
Veliki Ritoznojcan Corporation
0
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Posted - 2015.03.24 14:22:38 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:For those of us with sub-par internet at home, is there an install package for all of the resources? When I was playing with it on Singularity, it took a minute at least to load the model and various skins for a cruiser, let alone a station, I'd rather download the whole thing at school and install that on the desktop at home. I'd recommend setting the "Download all the resource files" flag in the launcher settings. The launcher will then download everything. Better restart the launcher after changing this setting.
Trying to do this but launcher doesnt allow me to save new settings. I just reinstalled windows 7 32-bit after my hard drive went bye-bye. |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
455
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Posted - 2015.03.24 14:35:42 -
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Some users have reported that if you try running the EVE Launcher as administrator, it will solve these issues. It's something we're currently investigating. |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
455
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Posted - 2015.03.24 14:36:32 -
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Veliki Ritoznojcan wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:For those of us with sub-par internet at home, is there an install package for all of the resources? When I was playing with it on Singularity, it took a minute at least to load the model and various skins for a cruiser, let alone a station, I'd rather download the whole thing at school and install that on the desktop at home. I'd recommend setting the "Download all the resource files" flag in the launcher settings. The launcher will then download everything. Better restart the launcher after changing this setting. Trying to do this but launcher doesnt allow me to save new settings. I just reinstalled windows 7 32-bit after my hard drive went bye-bye. Could you paste your logfile on pastebin, so we can take a look at it? |
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Veliki Ritoznojcan
Veliki Ritoznojcan Corporation
0
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Posted - 2015.03.24 14:46:44 -
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Cant find any logfile, found 2 launcher.exe set both as run as admin no difference. I can tag the flag in settings but i cant save it. When i return flag is gone |
Natya Mebelle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2015.03.24 14:50:41 -
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What if I do not WANT a shared resource folder? I'm running two installations of Eve from two separate harddrives (not partitions, physical hard drives!) because this improves my loading times a lot. If the game is going to pull all data from the same location, I'll be getting frustrated pretty soon... Or is this only patch information the game downloads once, and then distributes it to the other clients so I no longer need to download things twice? If so, then all is good c: |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
455
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:00:12 -
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Natya Mebelle wrote:What if I do not WANT a shared resource folder? I'm running two installations of Eve from two separate harddrives (not partitions, physical hard drives!) because this improves my loading times a lot. If the game is going to pull all data from the same location, I'll be getting frustrated pretty soon... Or is this only patch information the game downloads once, and then distributes it to the other clients so I no longer need to download things twice? If so, then all is good c: There's no alternative; you have to have a shared resource cache unless you can fake access to the Windows registry (assuming you're on Windows) The only shared data is the game asset data such as art assets, videos, audio and such. The binaries are still located in individual installs. |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
455
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:01:17 -
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Veliki Ritoznojcan wrote:Cant find any logfile, found 2 launcher.exe set both as run as admin no difference. I can tag the flag in settings but i cant save it. When i return flag is gone They should be located under the launcher install, within a folder named cache. They will then be called launcher.2015-03-24.log (with different dates per day). You can also try running eve.exe as administrator. |
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Wish Kaan
TURN LEFT The Camel Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:02:29 -
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Hi,ticking doanload all resources begins a 5gig download for me and restarting the launcher doesn't help |
Natya Mebelle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:04:49 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:There's no alternative; you have to have a shared resource cache unless you can fake access to the Windows registry (assuming you're on Windows) The only shared data is the game asset data such as art assets, videos, audio and such. The binaries are still located in individual installs. Okay, that sounds like it's not going to affect my ingame performance by a lot. Except with "art assets" you mean all textures and 3d models...? |
Veliki Ritoznojcan
Veliki Ritoznojcan Corporation
0
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:08:46 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:Veliki Ritoznojcan wrote:Cant find any logfile, found 2 launcher.exe set both as run as admin no difference. I can tag the flag in settings but i cant save it. When i return flag is gone They should be located under the launcher install, within a folder named cache. They will then be called launcher.2015-03-24.log (with different dates per day). You can also try running eve.exe as administrator.
did that, allowed eveything in firewall and finally let through, it started downloading 7G file |
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Frost Ikkala
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
5
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:11:15 -
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After really short update of launcher ,game started without a problems , Then noticed small loading bar above time bar , After leaving station game was seriously lagging for about 5-8 sec everytime at same location whatever I do its loading again and same lag.
FPS at max no problem [ GPU > AMD R9 280x ] CPU temperature increased for 8 to 10 c [CPU> Intel i5] HDD [SSD 120 gb] Network [ 60/10 mbs] OS [win 8.1]
When I warp to asteroid field it lags for few sec and then I just appeared at warp in location , Same for POS, PI , Stargates , Exploration sites etc . . .
Its like Im downloading same thing all over again like my game is not at the harddrive
How Can I download full game , because this is not working at all , TY !
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John WarpingSlow
WoHo Academy WO'S HO'S
29
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:15:22 -
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Veliki Ritoznojcan wrote:
did that, allowed eveything in firewall and finally let through, it started downloading 7G file
That's what I eventually ended up having to do as well. This is really poor from a security standpoint.
CCP: Can we please get a complete list of IP ranges, protocols, and ports that need to be left open in order to properly update and run the game?
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
62
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:19:48 -
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Frost Ikkala wrote:After really short update of launcher ,game started without a problems , Then noticed small loading bar above time bar , After leaving station game was seriously lagging for about 5-8 sec everytime at same location whatever I do its loading again and same lag.
FPS at max no problem [ GPU > AMD R9 280x ] CPU temperature increased for 8 to 10 c [CPU> Intel i5] HDD [SSD 120 gb] Network [ 60/10 mbs] OS [win 8.1]
When I warp to asteroid field it lags for few sec and then I just appeared at warp in location , Same for POS, PI , Stargates , Exploration sites etc . . .
Its like Im downloading same thing all over again like my game is not at the harddrive
How Can I download full game , because this is not working at all , TY !
Go to the launcher settings cog, select the download tab and tick the "Download all the resource files". Restart the launcher and the launcher will download all resources the client needs before you can log in.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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Tarpedo
Incursionista
1494
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:21:54 -
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I believe download link on the front page of eveonline.com is older version. Is it?
If so - where to find newest launcher?
(checked all threads about new version - they do not have download link) |
Natya Mebelle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:28:05 -
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Okay, this does not look good. No matter what I do, the game thinks I need to migrate 13 Gigabyte towards the shared folder. This means that multiple installations WILL be running from the same client, which WILL impact my performance and load times. Well great.
So while this process is going on, what do I do with my other two installations? I'm not keen on having several gigabyte worth of useless data. Will the clients be removing unnecessary data after moving? If I open the other client to patch, will I have to migrate all those 13 Gigabyte AGAIN or will it be smart enough to detect the already detected folder? Or does that mean I have no business any more with two separate installations and need to remove one because I will only run from one executable from now on? If so, what am I going to do with all those locally stored files? Both clients use separate interface settings, separate market quickorders (dozens of them). Am I needing to rearrange and add EVERYTHING again?
I so don't look forward to this... |
Samsara Toldya
Academy of Contradictory Behaviour
270
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:35:02 -
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Just out of curiousity:
Download on demand enabled - early after a release is deployed. Download server is busy and/or even might shut down / not accepting new requests. I encounter something "new" which will force my client to download higher resolution files of this "new" thing. Download server won't respond / request timeout:
a) client stops the download request and will only show low resolution of this "new" thing until I encounter it again b) client might run into a "Socket Closed" because the requested file couldn't be downloaded (outstanding packets, packet loss, ..)
There is already someone in the german forum saying he got connection losses while flying through lowsec... my 2 ISK would be dod related...
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
455
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:35:15 -
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Natya Mebelle wrote:Okay, this does not look good. No matter what I do, the game thinks I need to migrate 13 Gigabyte towards the shared folder. This means that multiple installations WILL be running from the same client, which WILL impact my performance and load times. Well great.
So while this process is going on, what do I do with my other two installations? I'm not keen on having several gigabyte worth of useless data. Will the clients be removing unnecessary data after moving? If I open the other client to patch, will I have to migrate all those 13 Gigabyte AGAIN or will it be smart enough to detect the already detected folder? Or does that mean I have no business any more with two separate installations and need to remove one because I will only run from one executable from now on? If so, what am I going to do with all those locally stored files? Both clients use separate interface settings, separate market quickorders (dozens of them). Am I needing to rearrange and add EVERYTHING again?
I so don't look forward to this... Yes, when you start up the second client you'll need to go through the migration steps again. This is an unfortunate consequence of having file names that are determined by the hash of the file content. During testing on Singularity we tried have it as an optional migrate, but we found that users were often not migrating their assets at all, and were then complaining about downloading gigabytes of data.
We decided that it was better to go through a one-time-per-install migration for everyone than to risk most people not migrating at all.
Once the migration process completes, it will delete the source .stuff files in the EVE installation, so you won't have to continually migrate the same installation. It's still possible to have multiple individual installations, although our long term plan is to remove the necessity of having them, simply to isolate your settings profiles. |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
455
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:36:39 -
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John WarpingSlow wrote:Veliki Ritoznojcan wrote:
did that, allowed eveything in firewall and finally let through, it started downloading 7G file
That's what I eventually ended up having to do as well. This is really poor from a security standpoint. CCP: Can we please get a complete list of IP ranges, protocols, and ports that need to be left open in order to properly update and run the game? The only new connection requests will be outbound to our CDN under the http://res.eveonline.ccpgames.com hostname.
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Frost Ikkala
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
5
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:41:03 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:Frost Ikkala wrote:After really short update of launcher ,game started without a problems , Then noticed small loading bar above time bar , After leaving station game was seriously lagging for about 5-8 sec everytime at same location whatever I do its loading again and same lag.
FPS at max no problem [ GPU > AMD R9 280x ] CPU temperature increased for 8 to 10 c [CPU> Intel i5] HDD [SSD 120 gb] Network [ 60/10 mbs] OS [win 8.1]
When I warp to asteroid field it lags for few sec and then I just appeared at warp in location , Same for POS, PI , Stargates , Exploration sites etc . . .
Its like Im downloading same thing all over again like my game is not at the harddrive
How Can I download full game , because this is not working at all , TY !
Go to the launcher settings cog, select the download tab and tick the "Download all the resource files". Restart the launcher and the launcher will download all resources the client needs before you can log in.
Ty DEV client is stable now |
6ie
The Kiwis
12
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:49:25 -
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Aria Tensus wrote:If you call this a success I would hate to witness a failure.
The launcher is stuck on an endless loop of "Installing files" and "Downloading EVE launcher update" - those messages alternate rapidly and there is no progress.
If I close the launcher and restart it, then it downloads the update and closes itself, never to be seen again. After relaunching we're back to square one.
Same. Fix was just to install: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/EveOnlineLauncher/release/EVEOnlineLauncher_2_2_871265.exe |
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