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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.19 11:47:54 -
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I run a few accounts to do my own mining ops in highsec. It's about all I do, besides reading up on all the changes to Eve since I last played while I mine. But despite my life as a miner and the fact that CODE. would happily gank my real characters if they had the chance, I like CODE.
Have you SEEN those killmails? I can't believe how many people flying billion-isk pods around aren't clever enough to figure out that a noob ship in system is summoning concord offgrid... how many people fly around mackinaws with 1 roid scanner as their only mid-slot module... how many people who apparently are trying to tank their ship are still so absolutely horrible at it (I mean, I'll see people who have 2 invuln fields and 2 civilian shield boosters as their 4 mids on a hulk)... etc.
As crazy as the notion of "improving highsec by holding its basest citizens to a higher standard (or else!)" is... I actually think I buy into it after seeing how just plain bad most of the miners CODE. targets really are. |
Kalishka Ashkulf
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
108
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Posted - 2015.03.19 12:02:54 -
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This thread is awesome, I salute you and anyone with the same mindset o7
Why, thank you, Thing!
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2015.03.19 12:14:31 -
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I mean, I'm not perfect. No one is. I AFK sometimes when RL calls. I get distracted by something fun on the web and go a couple of minutes here or there without checking in on local/dscan. I flew my orca around for 3 weeks with EM+therm resists because "caldari navy antimatter S" sounded like it did EM damage to me and I never bothered to check to see that it or void actually are therm+kinetic. I know that fitting a good tank is not even close to perfect protection from ganks.
But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to take at least some of the steps necessary to reduce your risk of being ganked.
Oh well. Keep those killmails coming, CODE. I laugh out loud at probably 3/4 of them when I see those fits :) |
Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
182
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Posted - 2015.03.19 16:47:45 -
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When I mine, I AFK mine too. I couldnt care less if my ship dies, because i follow the cardinal rule of EVE. Never fly a ship you cant afford to lose. If its worth crying about, its not worth flying.
I support Code, and i Support AG, too. I support anything that is fun, brings content, and is generally interesting or amusing. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1404
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Posted - 2015.03.19 16:55:02 -
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Being that EVE is a war based economy I generally support and approve of anything that results in ships exploding and people having fun. I do believe that the two are intrinsically linked. Playing with others is almost always more fun than playing with yourself, even if you happen to lose.
I keep a thoughtgun next to the bed, fully loaded with nerdshot. Just in case.
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malcovas Henderson
THoF
347
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Posted - 2015.03.19 18:23:56 -
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I wish I had the patience, and ability to say what I think of this. So much is wrong with some of the people that play EvE. Greed, self entitlement, risk aversion, stupidity. The list is almost endless. The one player base that fits with all of these is the "Carebear" . Bluntly put, they have no right playing a game, not suited for them, and then to cry out for changes to suit their needs. In a game that does not suit them. They are entirely the selfish ones. They deserve EVERYTHING bad they get handed to them.
Unfortunately it is happening all across the gaming industry. These little darlings, even complain about people exploiting gameplay in a SINGLE player game of all things. This in itself is the level of self entitlement, they are prepared to go. They have no clue about P2W or what it's meaning entails. They consider it "cheating" to boxer play. ANYTHING that gives them a slight disadvantage HAS to be removed from the game.
In all of this I blame the gaming industry for catering to these fuckwits. I can guarantee you this. EVE Hi sec will be trammil, if these people are allowed to stay. For this I cannot thank code enough for every unsub of these clueless, gutless, self entitled beings, who have plagued the gaming industry for far too long. EVE has not been immune to it. CCP are caving in to them. piece meal, by piece meal.
I could carry on but as I said I wish I had the patience to put in here, my heart felt opinions on the subject.
o7 |
LuckyQuarter
Lucky Galactic Expeditions
33
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Posted - 2015.03.19 21:52:20 -
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I frequently mine highsec 0.5 belts in a pyfa-optimized 100K+ ehp skiff fit. I've also done low-sec and w-space mining when rigged for agility/warp-stabs.
However, in the system I am in now, there is a miner that has lost two mackinaws in the last 30 days. Both times, his fit included 3 MLU2's and his total EHP was less than 15K. He's fine with that. He figures it is just a cost of business. He also isn't a new char....been subscribed for 3yrs.
I'm normally OK with people doing whatever they do in high-sec, but I attempted to report his location to anyone who normally ganks macks this afternoon.... however, no one was interested :( Maybe they thought it was a skiff bait trap. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4860
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Posted - 2015.03.19 22:48:44 -
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Anyone that mines and is diligent enough to not take losses from us should like us, we cut down on your competition.
I do hope you own a mining permit, however.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Jallukola
44
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Posted - 2015.03.19 22:50:31 -
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Good for you, I guess. I never saw what's the fuzz about CODE even is, it's almost like they're not there, the impact of their actions seem to be nigh non-existant. I suppose that's what an encyclopedia would call "irrelevance".
Leo Moracchioli - All About That Bass
Leo Moracchioli - Shake It Off
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Drez Arthie
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:42:28 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Anyone that mines and is diligent enough to not take losses from us should like us, we cut down on your competition.
I do hope you own a mining permit, however.
Never took losses from CODE, mostly because I get too bored mining to stay in space long enough to be ganked. Well that and never AFK/bot mining. Can't say I support CODE because they're too damn religious about it, though I did vote for Sabriz for CSM <3 |
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
12179
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Posted - 2015.03.20 01:43:31 -
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We are not well liked, much like garbagemen, plumbers, and other blue collar jobs in real life.
But just like those real life jobs, someone has to do it, or we'd all be covered in ****.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Drez Arthie
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2015.03.20 01:59:53 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:We are not well liked, much like garbagemen, plumbers, and other blue collar jobs in real life.
But just like those real life jobs, someone has to do it, or we'd all be covered in ****.
Oh please, pat yourselves on the back harder. If CODE didn't exist, we'd all be mourning the lack of .. ummm .. nothing. |
Damnskippy
Hounds of War. Hashashin Cartel
24
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Posted - 2015.03.20 03:44:16 -
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Drez Arthie wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:We are not well liked, much like garbagemen, plumbers, and other blue collar jobs in real life.
But just like those real life jobs, someone has to do it, or we'd all be covered in ****. Oh please, pat yourselves on the back harder. If CODE didn't exist, we'd all be mourning the lack of .. ummm .. nothing.
NOT TRUE. There are approximately 2.6 "grrr code", 1.33333338 "code is dying", 6.3 "code are psychopaths" and 42 code self congratulatory threads posted weekly. I would miss every single one of them.
I also find minerbumping pretty amusing.
( Authors note: Since 92% of internet quoted statistics are just made up, I made up my own too. Counting and math is hard. )
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Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
167
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Posted - 2015.03.20 03:46:25 -
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Drez Arthie wrote: Oh please, pat yourselves on the back harder. If CODE didn't exist, we'd all be mourning the lack of .. ummm .. nothing.
I tried patting myself on the back harder
LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE DONE!!! |
Odeva Pawen
Aideron Robotics
33
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Posted - 2015.03.20 04:04:05 -
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Whenever I see someone spreading tears in local, I link this.
Sabriz For CSMX!
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Steppa Musana
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2015.03.20 04:33:43 -
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You love a group of players that call you the "bottom feeder of EVE", and view you as inferior because of your way off ISKing. Do you also like BDSM? I bet you're a submissive! |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4865
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Posted - 2015.03.20 04:34:03 -
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Drez Arthie wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Anyone that mines and is diligent enough to not take losses from us should like us, we cut down on your competition.
I do hope you own a mining permit, however. Never took losses from CODE, mostly because I get too bored mining to stay in space long enough to be ganked. Well that and never AFK/bot mining. Can't say I support CODE because they're too damn religious about it, though I did vote for Sabriz for CSM <3
I've never really got the 'CODE is a religion' stuff.
We respect James and generally trust his judgement, but that's about the extent of it.
I've never talked to him and have only ever communicated by evemail a few times.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Avellean
Evil Young Flesh
8
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Posted - 2015.03.20 05:01:50 -
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Amarrchecko wrote:I run a few accounts to do my own mining ops in highsec. It's about all I do, besides reading up on all the changes to Eve since I last played while I mine. But despite my life as a miner and the fact that CODE. would happily gank my real characters if they had the chance, I like CODE.
Have you SEEN those killmails? I can't believe how many people flying billion-isk pods around aren't clever enough to figure out that a noob ship in system is summoning concord offgrid... how many people fly around mackinaws with 1 roid scanner as their only mid-slot module... how many people who apparently are trying to tank their ship are still so absolutely horrible at it (I mean, I'll see people who have 2 invuln fields and 2 civilian shield boosters as their 4 mids on a hulk)... etc.
As crazy as the notion of "improving highsec by holding its basest citizens to a higher standard (or else!)" is... I actually think I buy into it after seeing how just plain bad most of the miners CODE. targets really are.
They are bad because most of the miners code ganks are new to the game. CODE is garbage, they cant handle real pvp so they resort to ganking miners and haulers. |
Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2015.03.20 05:10:35 -
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Avellean wrote:They are bad because most of the miners code ganks are new to the game. CODE is garbage, they cant handle real pvp so they resort to ganking miners and haulers.
You should look through their recent killmails some day. It's pretty surprising how few of their kills seem to be truly new players compared to how many are long-time players who are just lazy or dumb. |
Avellean
Evil Young Flesh
8
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Posted - 2015.03.20 05:51:21 -
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Amarrchecko wrote:Avellean wrote:They are bad because most of the miners code ganks are new to the game. CODE is garbage, they cant handle real pvp so they resort to ganking miners and haulers. You should look through their recent killmails some day. It's pretty surprising how few of their kills seem to be truly new players compared to how many are long-time players who are just lazy or dumb. Hell. I even have created new gallente alts on my accounts with plans of them being gankers too (what would be more fun than seeing silly fits in killmails on zkillboard? seeing those killmails ingame, of course!), I just haven't convinced myself to stop training my miners to put some points into my anti-miners yet.
Was in a system running missions and the whole time i was there a code guy in a npc corp of course was killing new players most less than a week old. Regardless of the pilots age my point is still valid, those who cant handle real pvp resort to ganking ships that cant fight back. |
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Don Purple
Snuggle Society Snuggle Society.
1134
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Posted - 2015.03.20 08:02:02 -
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You look delicious Avellean.
I am just here to snuggle.
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
210
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:15:08 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Anyone that mines and is diligent enough to not take losses from us should like us, we cut down on your competition.
I do hope you own a mining permit, however.
*snickers*
No! Never had losses from you and still despise CODE and their members. I despise hipocrits that demand things from others that they self will not do. -> go nullsec
WIMRE someone wrote, that you sabriz told in the CSM application, that living in nullsec is not viable for you guys.
Reading about code is always fast change about laughing hard about code ignorance and "facepalming" and "face to desk" emotions. Code guys are just lame hisec-carebears who think they are better than players with playstiles other then theirs.. (hint: thats why you sabriz didnt make it into CSM )
Following the keynotes showed everyone the importance of code. Almost Zero!
quote=Kaarous Aldurald]We are not well liked, much like garbagemen, plumbers, and other blue collar jobs in real life.
But just like those real life jobs, someone has to do it, or we'd all be covered in ****. [/quote]
I like and respect those guys. Also whores: i respect them. Code: I dislike them like sh?t on my dining plate or garbage on my bed. IMO codies are covererd in *****
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Alana Charen-Teng
Sword of the Saviour 315th Circuit Court
538
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Posted - 2015.03.20 10:43:03 -
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Avellean wrote: Was in a system running missions and the whole time i was there a code guy in a npc corp of course was killing new players most less than a week old. Regardless of the pilots age my point is still valid, those who cant handle real pvp resort to ganking ships that cant fight back.
Which system were you running missions in? I'd like to drop by. |
Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2015.03.20 10:56:00 -
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@La Rynx
This is just a game, dude. And CODE. is playing a role permitted by the game's rules.
Sidenote - my catalyst alts have started training |
Mikael Menethil
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2015.03.20 11:28:26 -
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You are filtering out the fun people. If everyone is skilled, competitive, aggressive and cunning, EVE would be even more boring.
I suggest you target more of the "experienced" miners, who have no excuses anymore, and leave the newbies to breathe a little. Many dont mine because they like mining, they do it to learn the game (interface, skills etc). It's an activity where you have some time to read.
If you think you'll convince them to switch to combat skills and go pvp, you are wrong. |
Mikael Menethil
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2015.03.20 11:29:13 -
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double post |
Danalee
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
1151
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Posted - 2015.03.20 11:37:05 -
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La Rynx wrote: I HATE CODE. - Because - Haven't had contact with them ever, but look at them, they are ******! - They R stupidz - they smell - They have a playstyle different from mine - I am teh envy of people who want to try things like CSM. - U SUXXOR!
Something about prostitution
Those are indeed some good arguments. What forced you to make them? All I want for Christmas is more people like the OP.
Thanks!
D.
STOP OPPRESSING MEEEEEEE
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2015.03.20 12:33:43 -
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Mikael Menethil wrote:I suggest you target more of the "experienced" miners, who have no excuses anymore, and leave the newbies to breathe a little.
While you were talking about how many noobs are getting ganked, I went to the killboards and looked (like I suggested you should earlier). Out of the first 10 or so kills I saw, 2 were of one-month-old characters (plus a younger character who seemed unlikely to be a genuinely new player). The rest were old players in barges and players in exhumers, who should know better.
But they don't. They get ganked multiple times in the same system within an hour rather than move around a bit. They fit T2 afterburners on their mackinaws instead of making good bookmarks. They, almost invariably, do not have decent tanks on their ships. They like to mine in .5s, apparently without having standings set and keeping even a casual eye on local. Etc.
Sure, events like the venture ganking competition are disproportionately targetting new players. But hey. I'd rather learn that highsec isn't safesec by losing a venture than a few months later by losing my first mackinaw. Wouldn't you? Of course, these players could just use google, or join a corp, or read the forums, or stuff like that, which would go a long ways to protect them from ganks.
I need about 36 hours until my catalysts are ready for action with basic t1 fits and skills. Convenient that the orca I'm usually using on mining ops will work so well as a staging point even after my catalyst alts are -10! |
malcovas Henderson
THoF
350
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Posted - 2015.03.20 12:53:35 -
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Avellean wrote:
Was in a system running missions and the whole time i was there a code guy in a npc corp of course was killing new players most less than a week old. Regardless of the pilots age my point is still valid, those who cant handle real pvp resort to ganking ships that cant fight back.
Im calling BS on this. A "Code" guy in an NPC corp. One He cannot be a Code guy in a an NPC corp. Two if is an alt of a Code, how would you know. Again Clueless carebears spewing BS. |
Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:10:32 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:Avellean wrote:
Was in a system running missions and the whole time i was there a code guy in a npc corp of course was killing new players most less than a week old. Regardless of the pilots age my point is still valid, those who cant handle real pvp resort to ganking ships that cant fight back.
Im calling BS on this. A "Code" guy in an NPC corp. One He cannot be a Code guy in a an NPC corp. Two if is an alt of a Code, how would you know. Again Clueless carebears spewing BS.
"The New Order transcends corporations, alliances, and coalitions. There's no membership application or skill requirement to join. Everyone in EVE who takes any action to support our cause is an Agent of the New Order."
So close enough. |
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malcovas Henderson
THoF
350
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:25:27 -
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Amarrchecko wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote:Avellean wrote:
Was in a system running missions and the whole time i was there a code guy in a npc corp of course was killing new players most less than a week old. Regardless of the pilots age my point is still valid, those who cant handle real pvp resort to ganking ships that cant fight back.
Im calling BS on this. A "Code" guy in an NPC corp. One He cannot be a Code guy in a an NPC corp. Two if is an alt of a Code, how would you know. Again Clueless carebears spewing BS. "The New Order transcends corporations, alliances, and coalitions. There's no membership application or skill requirement to join. Everyone in EVE who takes any action to support our cause is an Agent of the New Order." So close enough.
It does not stop it from being a BS story
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2529
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:52:15 -
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Amarrchecko wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote:Avellean wrote:
Was in a system running missions and the whole time i was there a code guy in a npc corp of course was killing new players most less than a week old. Regardless of the pilots age my point is still valid, those who cant handle real pvp resort to ganking ships that cant fight back.
Im calling BS on this. A "Code" guy in an NPC corp. One He cannot be a Code guy in a an NPC corp. Two if is an alt of a Code, how would you know. Again Clueless carebears spewing BS. "The New Order transcends corporations, alliances, and coalitions. There's no membership application or skill requirement to join. Everyone in EVE who takes any action to support our cause is an Agent of the New Order." So close enough.
Everyone in CODE. is a member of the New Order, but not every member of the New Order is in CODE., so no, not close enough.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2015.03.20 14:36:17 -
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admiral root wrote:Everyone in CODE. is a member of the New Order, but not every member of the New Order is in CODE., so no, not close enough.
Give me a break.
CODE. is "Home of the Army of James 315 and the New Order of High Sec."
CODE.'s executor corp is named "New Order Home Office"
Trying to argue that a random, NPC-corp suicide ganker isn't basically the same thing as a member of CODE. is asinine. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
2529
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:04:04 -
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Amarrchecko wrote:admiral root wrote:Everyone in CODE. is a member of the New Order, but not every member of the New Order is in CODE., so no, not close enough. Trying to argue that a random, NPC-corp suicide ganker isn't basically the same thing as a member of CODE. is asinine.
Not asinine, accurate. Only CODE. members are members of CODE.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Avellean
Evil Young Flesh
9
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:11:18 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:Avellean wrote:
Was in a system running missions and the whole time i was there a code guy in a npc corp of course was killing new players most less than a week old. Regardless of the pilots age my point is still valid, those who cant handle real pvp resort to ganking ships that cant fight back.
Im calling BS on this. A "Code" guy in an NPC corp. One He cannot be a Code guy in a an NPC corp. Two if is an alt of a Code, how would you know. Again Clueless carebears spewing BS.
A lot of their agents are in npc corps so they don't have to worry about wardecs. Also don't assume people are carebears. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23284
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:58:26 -
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Avellean wrote:A lot of their agents are in npc corps so they don't have to worry about wardecs. You're missing the obvious, a ganker in an NPC corp is by definition not a member of the CODE. alliance, or any other player organised corp or alliance for that matter.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
211
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:19:20 -
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Amarrchecko wrote:@La Rynx This is just a game, dude. And CODE. is playing a role permitted by the game's rules. Sidenote - my catalyst alts have started training
So this is indeed a code bait Posting. Failed CSM canditate Sabriz explained that code is not roleplaying. I was not talking about "permitting". I replied to Sabriz post that a miner has not reason to like code. Obviously you feel pissed about my arguments, which happens alot to codies. If you wanna gank, do it. If you wanna join the clowns troupe code, do it.
@Danalee You wish for more people kissing code a?s?
Whatever you wish, i wrote nothing of that what you claim to be a quote of mine.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Alana Charen-Teng
Sword of the Saviour 315th Circuit Court
538
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:44:32 -
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Avellean wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote: Im calling BS on this. A "Code" guy in an NPC corp. One He cannot be a Code guy in a an NPC corp. Two if is an alt of a Code, how would you know. Again Clueless carebears spewing BS.
A lot of their agents are in npc corps so they don't have to worry about wardecs. Also don't assume people are carebears.
315th Circuit Court Declares War Against Evil Young Flesh [Avellean's previous corp]
I see you created a new corp as soon as the wardec hit. malcovas Henderson is spot on about you. |
Kaldi Tsukaya
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
57
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Posted - 2015.03.21 01:57:47 -
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Grrr (somebody) for doing (stuff) I disagree with! (Whine) post immediately!!!
...
Oh wait, Ships blowing up is good for business.
Nevermind, Carry on... |
Avellean
ELUSH Rehab
9
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Posted - 2015.03.21 05:01:41 -
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Alana Charen-Teng wrote:Avellean wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote: Im calling BS on this. A "Code" guy in an NPC corp. One He cannot be a Code guy in a an NPC corp. Two if is an alt of a Code, how would you know. Again Clueless carebears spewing BS.
A lot of their agents are in npc corps so they don't have to worry about wardecs. Also don't assume people are carebears. 315th Circuit Court Declares War Against Evil Young Flesh [ Avellean's previous corp] I see you created a new corp as soon as the wardec hit. malcovas Henderson is spot on about you.
LoL i just station spin in HS now days anyway so the wardec is kinda pointless. You assume im some HS player but im not, just hanging out in HS for a bit before i go back to null. I see you are a CODE alt alliance though, good to know. |
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2531
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Posted - 2015.03.21 11:49:30 -
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Avellean wrote:I see you are a CODE alt alliance though, good to know.
Alana is no mere alt! She's a New Order main; a renowned and courageous Knight, champion of justice, preacher of the good word of the Saviour of High Sec. Alana was in many of the initial gank fleets a few years back and is still dispensing justice today. She clearly has more in the space-gonads department than you do, too.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2015.03.21 13:22:34 -
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I'm bummed. Catalyst training actually is a bigger time investment than I thought it would be to get to respectable DPS levels. I think I'm closing in on 2 days spent on them now and I still need about 3 more before I'm content with the skills to actually go try some ganks... and it'll be another 4 or 5 to get into T2 weapons it looks like.
I could be finishing veldspar processing V on my miners instead! |
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
4088
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Posted - 2015.03.21 20:11:35 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post.
The Rules: 5. Trolling is prohibited.
How can CCP tell if people are doing this. Well they can monitor your computer for programs which allow these modifications but almost every computer will have some sort of program that can do it. Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Zed Zipper
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2015.03.21 20:23:36 -
[44] - Quote
I'm a creep, and I like Ezwal.
<3 |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
865
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:11:26 -
[45] - Quote
Yeah., some killmails are pretty funny. I already got two mackinaws with tripple civilian shield booster fit. Still looking for the one with four. I am sure some day I will find it :-)
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
865
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:23:10 -
[46] - Quote
Avellean wrote:Alana Charen-Teng wrote:Avellean wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote: Im calling BS on this. A "Code" guy in an NPC corp. One He cannot be a Code guy in a an NPC corp. Two if is an alt of a Code, how would you know. Again Clueless carebears spewing BS.
A lot of their agents are in npc corps so they don't have to worry about wardecs. Also don't assume people are carebears. 315th Circuit Court Declares War Against Evil Young Flesh [ Avellean's previous corp] I see you created a new corp as soon as the wardec hit. malcovas Henderson is spot on about you. LoL i just station spin in HS now days anyway so the wardec is kinda pointless. You assume im some HS player but im not, just hanging out in HS for a bit before i go back to null. I see you are a CODE alt alliance though, good to know. Lol, talks about others hidding in NPC corps from wardecs, switches corps when wardect. Of course only after he hinted that he is the PvP specialist around here... and now he is even just in transit to his powerful friends in nullsec and not really a highsec carebear...
Typical highsec miner...
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23288
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:43:06 -
[47] - Quote
Ima Wreckyou wrote:Avellean wrote:Alana Charen-Teng wrote:Avellean wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote: Im calling BS on this. A "Code" guy in an NPC corp. One He cannot be a Code guy in a an NPC corp. Two if is an alt of a Code, how would you know. Again Clueless carebears spewing BS.
A lot of their agents are in npc corps so they don't have to worry about wardecs. Also don't assume people are carebears. 315th Circuit Court Declares War Against Evil Young Flesh [ Avellean's previous corp] I see you created a new corp as soon as the wardec hit. malcovas Henderson is spot on about you. LoL i just station spin in HS now days anyway so the wardec is kinda pointless. You assume im some HS player but im not, just hanging out in HS for a bit before i go back to null. I see you are a CODE alt alliance though, good to know. Lol, talks about others hidding in NPC corps from wardecs, switches corps when wardect. Of course only after he hinted that he is the PvP specialist around here... and now he is even just in transit to his powerful friends in nullsec and not really a highsec carebear... Typical highsec miner... People who know about these things are calling it a bingo
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Arden Elenduil
Unlimited Ripoff Works
357
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Posted - 2015.03.22 15:14:17 -
[48] - Quote
Shiptoasting experts are calling this a fully completed bingo sheet |
I am providence
Viziam Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2015.03.22 15:37:04 -
[49] - Quote
Supporters of shiptoasting approve the bingo sheet and congratulate with a fully fittet Catalyst for "Ima Wreckyou" to bring peace and prosperity to highsec.
My Blog (german): http://theevevirus.wordpress.com/
All about trading, some PvP, some politics... whatever i want to write about
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Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2015.03.23 15:37:06 -
[50] - Quote
I hate code because I really don't like their risk-averse playstyle, and I am fairly anti the CFC idiots who run CODE, but I support 100% their right to do what they do. |
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malcovas Henderson
THoF
351
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Posted - 2015.03.23 15:41:38 -
[51] - Quote
Petre en Thielles wrote:I hate code because I really don't like their risk-averse playstyle, and I am fairly anti the CFC idiots who run CODE, but I support 100% their right to do what they do.
Risk averse? Pray tell me, how is flying flashy red risk averse?
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2538
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Posted - 2015.03.23 15:44:56 -
[52] - Quote
Petre en Thielles wrote:I am fairly anti the CFC idiots who run CODE
Your ignorance is showing.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2015.03.23 15:48:26 -
[53] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Petre en Thielles wrote:I am fairly anti the CFC idiots who run CODE Your ignorance is showing.
gotcha. *wink |
Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2015.03.23 16:01:41 -
[54] - Quote
malcovas Henderson wrote:Petre en Thielles wrote:I hate code because I really don't like their risk-averse playstyle, and I am fairly anti the CFC idiots who run CODE, but I support 100% their right to do what they do. Risk averse? Pray tell me, how is flying flashy red risk averse?
fighting those terrible freighters, miners, and afk mission runners. so l33t |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
2538
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Posted - 2015.03.23 16:08:50 -
[55] - Quote
Petre en Thielles wrote:so l33t
Says the NPC with no killboard.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2015.03.23 16:28:00 -
[56] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Petre en Thielles wrote:so l33t Says the NPC with no killboard.
Letting people on the forums know who I am, what I fly, where I fly? No thank you. |
Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
173
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Posted - 2015.03.23 16:36:10 -
[57] - Quote
Nice risk-averse playstyle you got there then.
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Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2015.03.23 16:47:53 -
[58] - Quote
Tisiphone Dira wrote:Nice risk-averse playstyle you got there then.
Ssshhhh....Go back to shooting people who don't fight back. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
2538
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Posted - 2015.03.23 17:00:20 -
[59] - Quote
Tisiphone Dira wrote:Nice risk-averse playstyle you got there then.
BOOM! Headshot!
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Steppa Musana
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2015.03.23 17:37:04 -
[60] - Quote
Tisiphone Dira wrote:Nice risk-averse playstyle you got there then.
You mean like Kaarous and the countless CODE alts that dont post with their main?
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2538
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Posted - 2015.03.23 17:59:49 -
[61] - Quote
Steppa Musana wrote:Tisiphone Dira wrote:Nice risk-averse playstyle you got there then.
You mean like Kaarous and the countless highsec "content" supporters that dont post with their main? Or am I to assume their killboards really are that pathetic?
You're an NPC with no killboard, too. Pot, meet kettle.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Steppa Musana
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2015.03.23 18:14:45 -
[62] - Quote
You're risk averse by your own logic. You're either an alt (too risk averse to post with your main) or it's your main (nice killboard). Dont feel bad though, you're in good company. Half of your friends here have this very same problem |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
2538
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Posted - 2015.03.23 18:29:02 -
[63] - Quote
My killboard is what it is. It shows that I should never be allowed to drive an orca. The fact that it shows previous activity in all areas of New Eden shows I'm actually not risk-averse. But hey, keep on demonstrating why NPCs shouldn't be allowed to post. :)
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2015.03.23 18:34:19 -
[64] - Quote
Everyone with any assets besides a noob ship, 1 trit, and an implant-less pod is either 1) the luckiest person in the game or 2) risk averse.
There's varying degrees of risk aversion, but EVERYONE is risk averse to some extent... so please stop throwing the phrase around like it really means anything. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
2538
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Posted - 2015.03.23 18:43:12 -
[65] - Quote
Amarrchecko wrote:Everyone with any assets besides a noob ship, 1 trit, and an implant-less pod is either 1) the luckiest person in the game or 2) risk averse.
Nonsense.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2015.03.23 18:49:19 -
[66] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Amarrchecko wrote:Everyone with any assets besides a noob ship, 1 trit, and an implant-less pod is either 1) the luckiest person in the game or 2) risk averse. Nonsense.
Well if someone isn't worried about loss, wouldn't he/she be putting every isk available into any ship being flown? That way you would be getting the maximum effect and the rush of putting everything on the line with every second you spend in space.
But nope. We're all risk averse, so we don't do stupid crap like that. |
Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2015.03.23 19:04:00 -
[67] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Tisiphone Dira wrote:Nice risk-averse playstyle you got there then.
BOOM! Headshot!
Sure, I avoid risk where I can, but I also still believe in a fair fight. Giving someone info on me when I don't have to? I avoid that risk any time. Attacking anything that can't fight back? Never. In game, I only shoot things that can shoot back. |
Gerhard Stringfellow
The Scope Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2015.03.29 22:16:25 -
[68] - Quote
malcovas Henderson wrote:I wish I had the patience, and ability to say what I think of this. So much is wrong with some of the people that play EvE. Greed, self entitlement, risk aversion, stupidity. The list is almost endless. The one player base that fits with all of these is the "Carebear" . Bluntly put, they have no right playing a game, not suited for them, and then to cry out for changes to suit their needs. In a game that does not suit them. They are entirely the selfish ones. They deserve EVERYTHING bad they get handed to them.
Unfortunately it is happening all across the gaming industry. These little darlings, even complain about people exploiting gameplay in a SINGLE player game of all things. This in itself is the level of self entitlement, they are prepared to go. They have no clue about P2W or what it's meaning entails. They consider it "cheating" to boxer play. ANYTHING that gives them a slight disadvantage HAS to be removed from the game.
In all of this I blame the gaming industry for catering to these fuckwits. I can guarantee you this. EVE Hi sec will be trammil, if these people are allowed to stay. For this I cannot thank code enough for every unsub of these clueless, gutless, self entitled beings, who have plagued the gaming industry for far too long. EVE has not been immune to it. CCP are caving in to them. piece meal, by piece meal.
I could carry on but as I said I wish I had the patience to put in here, my heart felt opinions on the subject.
o7
Yes, you're right. And soon your pay to win pubbie overlords will have it all, laughing down at you with their double monocles while walking around in station. High-sec will have concord mining escorts for every miner, and even thinking about ganking them will result in a personal spacepixel explosive extravaganza.
I for one welcome the sanitized and bubble wrapped New Eden. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
886
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Posted - 2015.03.29 23:12:18 -
[69] - Quote
Thanks bro, but i am currently traveling and will not be able to start an eve client to accept the contract. But my hangars are full of catalysts anyway, so... :-)
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2015.03.30 00:18:41 -
[70] - Quote
Update on how I'm a miner, and I like CODE.:
I've got a catalyst alt on each of my accounts trained to the point they can fly T1 catalysts pretty well. I've caused a billion or so in damage over the last 5 days with only a few target's I'd zerod in on warping out before I engaged but no one surviving after I started my attacks. I'm also still playing my mains, mining highsec roids like a mofo. I enjoy both activities quite thoroughly.
The only issue is that now I am eternally torn on whether I should be training my catalyst pilots towards T2 catas (and maybe thrashers, or even tornados!) or if I should finish shoring up support skills on my mains. Enjoying ganking is going to push me to spending isk on plexes for the extra training per account, lol, not spending isk on the ganking itself. |
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TotalRapeage
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
23
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Posted - 2015.03.30 09:45:11 -
[71] - Quote
Amarrchecko wrote:I run a few accounts to do my own mining ops in highsec. It's about all I do, besides reading up on all the changes to Eve since I last played while I mine. But despite my life as a miner and the fact that CODE. would happily gank my real characters if they had the chance, I like CODE.
Have you SEEN those killmails? I can't believe how many people flying billion-isk pods around aren't clever enough to figure out that a noob ship in system is summoning concord offgrid... how many people fly around mackinaws with 1 roid scanner as their only mid-slot module... how many people who apparently are trying to tank their ship are still so absolutely horrible at it (I mean, I'll see people who have 2 invuln fields and 2 civilian shield boosters as their 4 mids on a hulk)... etc.
As crazy as the notion of "improving highsec by holding its basest citizens to a higher standard (or else!)" is... I actually think I buy into it after seeing how just plain bad most of the miners CODE. targets really are.
.... |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
290
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Posted - 2015.03.30 12:59:30 -
[72] - Quote
you shall be visited soon
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2015.03.30 22:10:52 -
[73] - Quote
Hmm?
Agondray wrote:you shall be visited soon
Who will be visited soon? |
Vector Symian
0 Fear
610
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Posted - 2015.04.03 04:25:02 -
[74] - Quote
the lack of debate was the problem and that people don't even know who the code are code has a reputation of ignoring the spirit of its code
other then that seem like fun guys and gals
but it is not like code has much longer anyway |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
899
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:35:46 -
[75] - Quote
Amarrchecko wrote:Hmm? Agondray wrote:you shall be visited soon Who will be visited soon? Agondray is just a forum troll who likes tomthink of himself as an anti-ganker. I mean anti-gankers itself are fail and we all laught about them. What does that say about a wanabe anti-ganker. Seriously, check his killboard.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
2309
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Posted - 2015.04.03 11:00:18 -
[76] - Quote
Agondray wrote:you shall be visited soon
By what? By who? For what reason?
Should we leave cookies out?
Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23440
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Posted - 2015.04.04 00:38:20 -
[77] - Quote
Agondray wrote:you shall be visited soon Bring your own bottle, CODE. are notorious for hogging the booze
Vector Symian wrote:but it is not like code has much longer anyway Yeah..... Welcome to December 2012.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
531
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Posted - 2015.04.04 01:57:30 -
[78] - Quote
I don't know about you nerds but I get shot at a lot. This surprises me because I am just a simple man who trades anti-matter for permit money and obedience.
I'm really starting to think some of you "people" regret voting for James 315 to save highsec. This isn't the time for doubt, we only have 5 more years to make James 315's vision of highsec a reality!
What we should be focusing on is getting "people" permitted, ensuring that your neighbor is following the Code, and encouraging frequent share purchases in the Minerbumping IPO. The time to get involved is now!
tick-tock, tick-tock
Between Ignorance and Wisdom
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Vector Symian
0 Fear
653
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Posted - 2015.04.05 00:28:40 -
[79] - Quote
Vector Symian wrote:but it is not like code has much longer anyway Yeah..... Welcome to December 2012.[/quote]
And things don't end? [
well blow me down and call me well done...things don't end if their from 2012!?
oh LAWDY HAVE MARCY! |
Dana Goodeye
Quafe Commandos Point Blank Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.04.07 11:26:38 -
[80] - Quote
oh my god, miners loving the code xD im not a miner. well, sometimes i mine in hisec, mostly afk... got ganked once, the ganker got me to 85% shields in hek before he got exploded xD
i saw a killmail, a code guy showed it to me, and he was proud about it. 5 or 6 mega killed a procu in hisec. guys, if i ***** only one lossmail of a mega, im positive, so please, if you see my procu, you can be sure, im afk mining, gank me please with megas xD
once i was alone with an incursus, and chased 3 code ppl in some hisec area, i dont remember where... i mocked them in local, but got 0 fight... again, they were 3, i were alone, in an incursus
so... if i count all what i know about the code ppl.... youre guys can do what you want, like a bad man can **** a children, but im not gonna think, its oki. i never shot gunless ppl in hisec, or losec. i never duelling newbies, even a months old ppl in pvp ships, i dont duel them, or reject them. its just not fair in my opinion, its like **** :D
if any ppl out there are love the code ppl, well, lick their arses, they might like it... and code ppl, please gank mee, fight meee :D pleeeease =) |
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Zealous Miner
111
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Posted - 2015.04.08 08:56:14 -
[81] - Quote
Hello.
I am also a miner who enjoys a good barge barbecue. Keep it coming New Order.
www.minerbumping.com
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Desert Frog
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
3
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Posted - 2015.04.08 10:49:55 -
[82] - Quote
Avellean wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote:Avellean wrote:
Was in a system running missions and the whole time i was there a code guy in a npc corp of course was killing new players most less than a week old. Regardless of the pilots age my point is still valid, those who cant handle real pvp resort to ganking ships that cant fight back.
Im calling BS on this. A "Code" guy in an NPC corp. One He cannot be a Code guy in a an NPC corp. Two if is an alt of a Code, how would you know. Again Clueless carebears spewing BS. A lot of their agents are in npc corps so they don't have to worry about wardecs. Also don't assume people are carebears.
If you are an agent with -10 standing, why would you even worry about a wardec and 'hide' in an NPC corp?
Bedouin of the galactic shipping lanes...
+é+» +º+ä+¿+¦+º+¦+è+½ +à+å +ú+ä+ü +º+ä+¼+à+º+ä +¬+¦+¦+ê +ú+ê+ä+ª+â +º+ä+¦+è+å +ü+¦+è+¦+¬ +¦+ä+ë +º+ä+¦+ü+º+»+¦
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Desert Frog
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
3
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Posted - 2015.04.08 10:56:19 -
[83] - Quote
Petre en Thielles wrote:admiral root wrote:Petre en Thielles wrote:so l33t Says the NPC with no killboard. Letting people on the forums know who I am, what I fly, where I fly? No thank you.
I'd say that qualifies as "risk averse".
Bedouin of the galactic shipping lanes...
+é+» +º+ä+¿+¦+º+¦+è+½ +à+å +ú+ä+ü +º+ä+¼+à+º+ä +¬+¦+¦+ê +ú+ê+ä+ª+â +º+ä+¦+è+å +ü+¦+è+¦+¬ +¦+ä+ë +º+ä+¦+ü+º+»+¦
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Sawdeth Alumini
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.04.08 23:29:59 -
[84] - Quote
Amarrchecko wrote:I run a few accounts to do my own mining ops in highsec. It's about all I do, besides reading up on all the changes to Eve since I last played while I mine. But despite my life as a miner and the fact that CODE. would happily gank my real characters if they had the chance, I like CODE.
As crazy as the notion of "improving highsec by holding its basest citizens to a higher standard (or else!)" is... I actually think I buy into it after seeing how just plain bad most of the miners CODE. targets really are.
First of all, who would like a group of people that would stop at nothing but to harass miners to the point they'll leave eve permanently? And to the miner that consults with the notorious is Guilty of conspiracy to committed acts of ganking.
Secondly, the so called "Improving highsec" is exactly a totalitarian way of thinking. The secret to James 315's new order is uniting all under one banner with himself as absolute ruler. According to game mechanics It's impossible to claim sovereign of high security and Empire Space.
Sorry to tell you, James 315. But I'm afraid nothing has changed, and that is the fact. There is Resistance with cause and there can be no consultation with the evil deeds that has corrupted your soul. You were once a respectable player in Nullsec, your so called New Order is a farce compared to the fights we had in Null.
I didn't come here to the forums just to play politics, but think about this very carefully. do not continue with this charade of yours or interpret these words to twist them to make others feel good. I'm asking you personally for this response to reconcile with all people that you've broke during your recess campaign. End it now.
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Paranoid Loyd
4600
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Posted - 2015.04.08 23:35:11 -
[85] - Quote
Glorious tears you posted there. You may have BINGO.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
45272
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Posted - 2015.04.09 14:46:30 -
[86] - Quote
Avellean wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote:Avellean wrote:
Was in a system running missions and the whole time i was there a code guy in a npc corp of course was killing new players most less than a week old. Regardless of the pilots age my point is still valid, those who cant handle real pvp resort to ganking ships that cant fight back.
Im calling BS on this. A "Code" guy in an NPC corp. One He cannot be a Code guy in a an NPC corp. Two if is an alt of a Code, how would you know. Again Clueless carebears spewing BS. A lot of their agents are in npc corps so they don't have to worry about wardecs. Also don't assume people are carebears. this is gold.
a -10 sec status pilot will be in a npc corp to avoid wardecs |
Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1126
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Posted - 2015.04.09 15:58:28 -
[87] - Quote
TIL -10 hide in npc corp from wardecs.
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1136
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Posted - 2015.04.09 16:15:55 -
[88] - Quote
Sawdeth Alumini wrote:Amarrchecko wrote:I run a few accounts to do my own mining ops in highsec. It's about all I do, besides reading up on all the changes to Eve since I last played while I mine. But despite my life as a miner and the fact that CODE. would happily gank my real characters if they had the chance, I like CODE.
As crazy as the notion of "improving highsec by holding its basest citizens to a higher standard (or else!)" is... I actually think I buy into it after seeing how just plain bad most of the miners CODE. targets really are. First of all, who would like a group of people that would stop at nothing but to harass miners to the point they'll leave eve permanently? And to the miner that consults with the notorious is Guilty of conspiracy to committed acts of ganking. Secondly, the so called "Improving highsec" is exactly a totalitarian way of thinking. The secret to James 315's new order is uniting all under one banner with himself as absolute ruler. According to game mechanics It's impossible to claim sovereign of high security and Empire Space. Sorry to tell you, James 315. But I'm afraid nothing has changed, and that is the fact. There is Resistance with cause and there can be no consultation with the evil deeds that has corrupted your soul. You were once a respectable player in Nullsec, your so called New Order is a farce compared to the fights we had in Null. I didn't come here to the forums just to play politics, but think about this very carefully. do not continue with this charade of yours or interpret these words to twist them to make others feel good. I'm asking you personally for this response to reconcile with all people that you've broke during your recess campaign. End it now. *chuckles* ...
... *reads along* ...
... *snickers xD* ...
... *keeps reading* ...
.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :D
Brilliant inCharacter-post, would read again!
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2015.04.09 17:47:26 -
[89] - Quote
Sawdeth Alumini wrote:[quote=Amarrchecko]And to the miner that consults with the notorious is Guilty of conspiracy to committed acts of ganking.
...
There is Resistance with cause and there can be no consultation with the evil deeds that has corrupted your soul.
So good. |
Sawdeth Alumini
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.04.09 21:58:01 -
[90] - Quote
Amarrchecko wrote:Sawdeth Alumini wrote:And to the miner that consults with the notorious is Guilty of conspiracy to committed acts of ganking.
...
There is Resistance with cause and there can be no consultation with the evil deeds that has corrupted your soul. So good.
Just another troll quoting my words and manipulating them to make me feel stupid and to ease his OCD.
Lesson number 1 in dealing with trolls is to simply block all forms of communications and never talk to them or to fall for their lies. Reason being so is because, in theory, the person that just trolled me is a teenager who got into a argument with his parents and was sent to his room. So he decides in order to avoid taking responsibility for his mistakes is to take it out on a specific individual on the forum.
That's being irresponsible.
Lesson number 2 in dealing with trolls online is to never feed them anything. The individual will one day learn his lesson the hard way when he takes it too far and actually makes the targeted individual commit suicide in real life.
That is just cold and heartless. In the end he will learn his lesson the hard way inside of a 8 by 6 prison cell only to be let out only for a hour for the next 15 years to life. |
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Amy Lemmont
New Order Logistics CODE.
4
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Posted - 2015.04.10 00:36:16 -
[91] - Quote
Avellean wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote:Avellean wrote:
Was in a system running missions and the whole time i was there a code guy in a npc corp of course was killing new players most less than a week old. Regardless of the pilots age my point is still valid, those who cant handle real pvp resort to ganking ships that cant fight back.
Im calling BS on this. A "Code" guy in an NPC corp. One He cannot be a Code guy in a an NPC corp. Two if is an alt of a Code, how would you know. Again Clueless carebears spewing BS. A lot of their agents are in npc corps so they don't have to worry about wardecs. Also don't assume people are carebears.
Because someone who is KOS in High sec anyway is afraid of a war dec, amirite?
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23563
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Posted - 2015.04.10 00:52:45 -
[92] - Quote
Sawdeth Alumini wrote:Lesson number 2 in dealing with trolls online is to never feed them anything. Something at which you fail.
Quote:The individual will one day learn his lesson the hard way when he takes it too far and actually makes the targeted individual commit suicide in real life. Most of us know where to draw the line, we try and keep it in the context of the game.
While I can't speak for everyone I'm fairly sure that many of the people you so casually dismiss as trolls would encourage anybody with suicidal feelings to seek help. They're not inhumane monsters, they're people playing a game within the rules.
Quote:That is just cold and heartless. In the end he will learn his lesson the hard way inside of a 8 by 6 prison cell only to be let out only for a hour for the next 15 years to life. Your inability to determine the difference between real life and fantasy is disturbing, are you sure that Eve is the right game for you?
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Zealous Miner
112
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Posted - 2015.04.10 08:21:23 -
[93] - Quote
Sawdeth Alumini wrote:That's being irresponsible.
Honestly the only thing irresponsible I see here is your posting. To trivialize such matters like this and to suggest players playing the game the way it is intended are intentionally trying to cause fellow players to bring physical harm to themselves is appalling.
I implore you to come to your senses.
www.minerbumping.com
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James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
3487
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Posted - 2015.04.10 18:52:31 -
[94] - Quote
Sawdeth Alumini wrote:I didn't come here to the forums just to play politics, but think about this very carefully. do not continue with this charade of yours or interpret these words to twist them to make others feel good. I'm asking you personally for this response to reconcile with all people that you've broke during your recess campaign. End it now.
No.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
969
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Posted - 2015.04.10 19:21:47 -
[95] - Quote
Sawdeth Alumini wrote: Lesson number 2 in dealing with trolls online is to never feed them anything. The individual will one day learn his lesson the hard way when he takes it too far and actually makes the targeted individual commit suicide in real life.
That is just cold and heartless. In the end he will learn his lesson the hard way inside of a 8 by 6 prison cell only to be let out only for a hour for the next 15 years to life.
Calm down miner!
Are we still talking about exploding pixel spaceships?
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
266
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Posted - 2015.04.11 12:18:34 -
[96] - Quote
... says the CODE alt to forum... Hello CODE alt *wave* |
Dana Goodeye
Quafe Commandos Point Blank Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.04.16 14:54:03 -
[97] - Quote
code thiiis, code thaaat... OMFG :D let me be straight oki? i dont know how the code doing in losec or nullsec, because i dont see them in losec around metro, and im rarely being in null. but in hisec... well, what i see in hek is: code ppl mostly in thrashers, ganking ventures, piloted by 2 days-2 weeks old players, $uGé¼king james 123whatever Gé¼oGé¼k in local, and claiming, they are the owners of hek. but hey code guys, hek is MINE! i bought it from a starsystem trader in jita =P hihihiiii if you want it, come at me, and get it from mee =D btw if the code would gank only afk miners like me, or older than 6 months old players, i would think otherwise. and i start to think, the miner gankers has miner alts, and they just wanna scare off the other ones :/ or they could get some respect with a little honesty at least..like : "shut up little biach, for us pvp means as many kills we can get with the easiest way, and for us, fun when we can cause loss, pain, hurt, and tears to other ppl..." or something... for me, pvp is fun, and if my opponent has more chance to kill me, but i still have some chance to win, its more fun =) and i think even the code ppl knows how silly are those rules they claiming to follow :D well... mighty code, i salute you *.* =D btw... how big is that Gé¼oGé¼k of james? is it worth to $uGé¼k it all day? show it to me! =D |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
2713
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Posted - 2015.04.16 15:19:52 -
[98] - Quote
Dana Goodeye wrote:code thiiis, code thaaat... OMFG :D let me be straight oki? i dont know how the code doing in losec or nullsec, because i dont see them in losec around metro, and im rarely being in null. but in hisec... well, what i see in hek is: code ppl mostly in thrashers, ganking ventures, piloted by 2 days-2 weeks old players, $uGé¼king james 123whatever Gé¼oGé¼k in local, and claiming, they are the owners of hek. but hey code guys, hek is MINE! i bought it from a starsystem trader in jita =P hihihiiii if you want it, come at me, and get it from mee =D btw if the code would gank only afk miners like me, or older than 6 months old players, i would think otherwise. and i start to think, the miner gankers has miner alts, and they just wanna scare off the other ones :/ or they could get some respect with a little honesty at least..like : "shut up little biach, for us pvp means as many kills we can get with the easiest way, and for us, fun when we can cause loss, pain, hurt, and tears to other ppl..." or something... for me, pvp is fun, and if my opponent has more chance to kill me, but i still have some chance to win, its more fun =) and i think even the code ppl knows how silly are those rules they claiming to follow :D well... mighty code, i salute you *.* =D btw... how big is that Gé¼oGé¼k of james? is it worth to $uGé¼k it all day? show it to me! =D
Isn't there a rule about only posting in English?
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
A recent survey of applicants to CODE. corporations showed that 100% accepted James 315 as their saviour. You can't argue with facts.
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Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
1114
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Posted - 2015.04.16 16:16:32 -
[99] - Quote
Dana Goodeye wrote: but hey code guys, hek is MINE! i bought it from a starsystem trader in jita =P hihihiiii if you want it, come at me, and get it from mee =D
Sorry to tell you but you got scammed, Hek belongs to James 315. I'm sure the salesman made a compelling case though. |
Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
1114
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Posted - 2015.04.16 18:10:05 -
[100] - Quote
Sawdeth Alumini wrote:
Lesson number 2 in dealing with trolls online is to never feed them anything. The individual will one day learn his lesson the hard way when he takes it too far and actually makes the targeted individual commit suicide in real life.
If I had a victim who I even remotely thought might be contemplating RL suicide, I'd report it to CCP and ask them to put him in touch with someone local to him. Eve is a game, and we're all just players in it.
At our Eve meets I sit across the table from carebears, we drink and share stories of Eve.
We might be trolls, villains and hooligans, but we're not monsters, regardless of what you'd like to believe.
It's a game, and anyone contemplating suicide should seek professional help. |
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Gerhard Stringfellow
The Scope Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2015.04.16 19:33:36 -
[101] - Quote
Sawdeth Alumini wrote:Amarrchecko wrote:Sawdeth Alumini wrote:And to the miner that consults with the notorious is Guilty of conspiracy to committed acts of ganking.
...
There is Resistance with cause and there can be no consultation with the evil deeds that has corrupted your soul. So good. Just another troll quoting my words and manipulating them to make me feel stupid and to ease his OCD. Lesson number 1 in dealing with trolls is to simply block all forms of communications and never talk to them or to fall for their lies. Reason being so is because, in theory, the person that just trolled me is a teenager who got into a argument with his parents and was sent to his room. So he decides in order to avoid taking responsibility for his mistakes is to take it out on a specific individual on the forum. That's being irresponsible. Lesson number 2 in dealing with trolls online is to never feed them anything. The individual will one day learn his lesson the hard way when he takes it too far and actually makes the targeted individual commit suicide in real life. That is just cold and heartless. In the end he will learn his lesson the hard way inside of a 8 by 6 prison cell only to be let out only for a hour for the next 15 years to life.
Not that I condone suicide, but realistically speaking if somebody did kill themselves, I'd hate to be the DA trying to push a case where my evidence is EvE killmails. So, the odds are homeboy would off himself and not even achieve the prison you seem to wish upon the ganker who killed their retriever or venture.
Odds are, they might feel bad, but in reality it would be the guy who killed himself that was acting in a completely unreasonable fashion, not the ganker. |
Amy Lemmont
New Order Logistics CODE.
7
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Posted - 2015.04.17 01:30:11 -
[102] - Quote
Dana Goodeye wrote:code thiiis, code thaaat... OMFG :D let me be straight oki? i dont know how the code doing in losec or nullsec, because i dont see them in losec around metro, and im rarely being in null. but in hisec... well, what i see in hek is: code ppl mostly in thrashers, ganking ventures, piloted by 2 days-2 weeks old players, $uGé¼king james 123whatever Gé¼oGé¼k in local, and claiming, they are the owners of hek. but hey code guys, hek is MINE! i bought it from a starsystem trader in jita =P hihihiiii if you want it, come at me, and get it from mee =D btw if the code would gank only afk miners like me, or older than 6 months old players, i would think otherwise. and i start to think, the miner gankers has miner alts, and they just wanna scare off the other ones :/ or they could get some respect with a little honesty at least..like : "shut up little biach, for us pvp means as many kills we can get with the easiest way, and for us, fun when we can cause loss, pain, hurt, and tears to other ppl..." or something... for me, pvp is fun, and if my opponent has more chance to kill me, but i still have some chance to win, its more fun =) and i think even the code ppl knows how silly are those rules they claiming to follow :D well... mighty code, i salute you *.* =D btw... how big is that Gé¼oGé¼k of james? is it worth to $uGé¼k it all day? show it to me! =D
The above is what happens when you post drunk. |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
579
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Posted - 2015.04.17 03:14:41 -
[103] - Quote
Sawdeth Alumini wrote:Amarrchecko wrote:I run a few accounts to do my own mining ops in highsec. It's about all I do, besides reading up on all the changes to Eve since I last played while I mine. But despite my life as a miner and the fact that CODE. would happily gank my real characters if they had the chance, I like CODE.
As crazy as the notion of "improving highsec by holding its basest citizens to a higher standard (or else!)" is... I actually think I buy into it after seeing how just plain bad most of the miners CODE. targets really are. First of all, who would like a group of people that would stop at nothing but to harass miners to the point they'll leave eve permanently? And to the miner that consults with the notorious is Guilty of conspiracy to committed acts of ganking. Secondly, the so called "Improving highsec" is exactly a totalitarian way of thinking. The secret to James 315's new order is uniting all under one banner with himself as absolute ruler. According to game mechanics It's impossible to claim sovereign of high security and Empire Space. Sorry to tell you, James 315. But I'm afraid nothing has changed, and that is the fact. There is Resistance with cause and there can be no consultation with the evil deeds that has corrupted your soul. You were once a respectable player in Nullsec, your so called New Order is a farce compared to the fights we had in Null. I didn't come here to the forums just to play politics, but think about this very carefully. do not continue with this charade of yours or interpret these words to twist them to make others feel good. I'm asking you personally for this response to reconcile with all people that you've broke during your recess campaign. End it now.
Agree with you - these fools have turned bullying and harassment into an art form. Everything they do is designed to elicit the maximum level of rage and frustration from victims. It's like vandals going around and demanding that people purchase "parking permits" from then under threat of property damage. It has no place in any sort of civilized society, and would be severely punished by the law enforcement authorities. And that is the issue right now, the code "agents" commit crime after crime, but never once face a measure of real punishment for their activity. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
12646
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Posted - 2015.04.17 03:19:25 -
[104] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:It has no place in any sort of civilized society,
New Eden is not, nor ever has, nor ever will be a civilized society. Not by even the most deluded metric.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
579
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Posted - 2015.04.17 03:21:05 -
[105] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:It has no place in any sort of civilized society, New Eden is not, nor ever has, nor ever will be a civilized society. Not by even the most deluded metric.
Except for the whole infallible police thing, and you know laws, and stuff. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
978
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Posted - 2015.04.17 03:26:46 -
[106] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Sawdeth Alumini wrote:Amarrchecko wrote:I run a few accounts to do my own mining ops in highsec. It's about all I do, besides reading up on all the changes to Eve since I last played while I mine. But despite my life as a miner and the fact that CODE. would happily gank my real characters if they had the chance, I like CODE.
As crazy as the notion of "improving highsec by holding its basest citizens to a higher standard (or else!)" is... I actually think I buy into it after seeing how just plain bad most of the miners CODE. targets really are. First of all, who would like a group of people that would stop at nothing but to harass miners to the point they'll leave eve permanently? And to the miner that consults with the notorious is Guilty of conspiracy to committed acts of ganking. Secondly, the so called "Improving highsec" is exactly a totalitarian way of thinking. The secret to James 315's new order is uniting all under one banner with himself as absolute ruler. According to game mechanics It's impossible to claim sovereign of high security and Empire Space. Sorry to tell you, James 315. But I'm afraid nothing has changed, and that is the fact. There is Resistance with cause and there can be no consultation with the evil deeds that has corrupted your soul. You were once a respectable player in Nullsec, your so called New Order is a farce compared to the fights we had in Null. I didn't come here to the forums just to play politics, but think about this very carefully. do not continue with this charade of yours or interpret these words to twist them to make others feel good. I'm asking you personally for this response to reconcile with all people that you've broke during your recess campaign. End it now. Agree with you - these fools have turned bullying and harassment into an art form. Everything they do is designed to elicit the maximum level of rage and frustration from victims. It's like vandals going around and demanding that people purchase "parking permits" from then under threat of property damage. It has no place in any sort of civilized society, and would be severely punished by the law enforcement authorities. And that is the issue right now, the code "agents" commit crime after crime, but never once face a measure of real punishment for their activity. you are free to bring that punishment up on us with the ingame tools provided. But you prefere to cry on the forums, which will do nothing.
Please remember this is a game and you are free to shape the eve universe by playing inside the boundries of the sandbox and the EULA/TOS.
CCP's data has shown that ganking players has no negative effect on the retention of new players. Ganked playere have in fact the highest retention numbers of all. This is because they get drawn out of their solo playstile into the real sandbox, which is what eve is all about. You never experienced this part of the game Veers, that's why you don't get it and why you are so butthurt over everything we do.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
12646
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Posted - 2015.04.17 03:38:04 -
[107] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:It has no place in any sort of civilized society, New Eden is not, nor ever has, nor ever will be a civilized society. Not by even the most deluded metric. Except for the whole infallible police thing, and you know laws, and stuff.
If we were supposed to be civil, CCP would have just turned off our guns.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
262
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Posted - 2015.04.17 04:56:43 -
[108] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:It has no place in any sort of civilized society, New Eden is not, nor ever has, nor ever will be a civilized society. Not by even the most deluded metric. Except for the whole infallible police thing, and you know laws, and stuff. If the police are so infallible why are you bothering to post?
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Dana Goodeye
Quafe Commandos Point Blank Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.04.17 07:21:43 -
[109] - Quote
sorry if i mispelled something wrong in my posts, english isnt my native. but i wasnt drunk, oki? -.- youre the drunk one -.- never forget to fear me, i can bump you to death :P |
Canidae Invictus
Duragon Pioneer Group Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.04.17 07:29:48 -
[110] - Quote
Here is what I like about CODE. just the fact that they are ganking the hell out of hi-sec industry though I hope that they could do it more severely. Why? Well many upon many hi-sec carebears are just mining away, running missions or incursions as a matter of fact with multiple accounts with little to lees fear for their own safety. But alright fair enough it is hi-sec after alland besides a couple bumps here and there it was meant to be safe right?
Well having such a safe heaven resulted in a massive population boom as people figured they need not to risk their ships or their pods etc. and they could make up for the lower payment by having multiple accounts and getting them to farm endlessly while they check back every hour or two.
While I have little problem with miner whom get ores and an abundance of them is for the most part not as big of a problem as the Mission and Incursion runners WHO get hard cold ISK and flood it into the market. Through this flooding of constant and seemingly endless ISK (as CCP seems to have decided incursions should be more easier things to conduct overall) everyone else whom aren't in the endless grind bandwagon are worse off. This is exactly why I favour CODE.'s actions and belieev that more ought to follow in their path. |
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Vhelnik Cojoin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2015.04.17 11:43:33 -
[111] - Quote
Canidae Invictus wrote:Well having such a safe heaven resulted in a massive population boom as people figured they need not to risk their ships or their pods etc. and they could make up for the lower payment by having multiple accounts and getting them to farm endlessly while they check back every hour or two. Welcome to EvE, I hope you like it here.
That said, please ignore whatever guide it is, which has given you the impression your ships can autonomously farm unattended in HiSec for 1 to 2 hours at a time. Current game mechanics doesn't allow for this, not has this been the case for quite some time by now (years).
*) NPCs in missions will shoot your drones, so AFK running missions in drone boats no longer works very well. *) The low ceiling for ore content in HiSec asteroids, combined with the cycle time of strip miners, means you need to tinker with your mining ship at least every few minutes. The time required for a single Miner II on a Venture to exhaust a large Veldspar asteroid can be quite long, but that is due to the ridiculously low yield - and thus payout - that ship provides. *) Good luck AFK farming Incursions.
As for CODE. and how to coexist peacefully with them, while they whittle down your incompetent competitors:
*) Put a tank on your Hulk. If you sacrifice a low slot for a DC, you save enough CPU that you can crank the EHP against Void ammo up beyond the capability of two bored Catalyst pilots to kill even in a 0.5. You loose 8% yield by doing so (considering mining drones in the total yield), yet the ship will still vastly outmine either a Skiff or a Mackinaw.
*) Have all your pilots train Thermodynamics up a few notches. Overheating your shield resists takes the Hulk EHP up to a point, where it it touch and go whether 3 Catalysts can kill it in a 0.5.
*) Use a T2 Siege link on your Orca booster for even more EHP goodness. The mining cap link serves no purpose with good cap skills on the Exhumer pilots.
*) Brick tank your Orca booster the whole nine yeards: DC-II, 1x T2 reinforced + 3x T1 transverse bulkheads, T2 LSE, T2 Invuln + T2 Kn/Th hardeners in mids. With heat+links it will take a pretty ridiculous fleet to suicide gank this, meaning on the order of 15 Tornado/Talos pilots. No-one is likely to bother, unless you absolutly cannot help yourself provoking your local agent.
*) Keep all Exhumers within easy docking range of your Orca, 2500m. Meaning you can swap ships up until the point where the shooting starts. Swap to a shuttle and jump out if a group of catalysts jumps in on you. Need to be quick though, as you need to dump your ore in the Orca fleet hangar before you can swap ships.
*) Use the Orca fleet hangar as a giant jetcan, thus making your fleet ore thief proof.
*) Use a T1/Meta buffer tanked Miasmos to haul ore from the Orca to a station. Empty high and rig slots, shield buffer/resists in mids, DC-I (yes, one) plus 3x meta iStabs (don't care about the sig radius increase, this is just to make the job of ore hauling easier). The cost including modules will be less than 2M ISK before insurance, essentially making the ship completely disposable. Yet the EHP with links and heat makes it a pretty tough nut to crack for a few Catalysts. Do put a 'gf!' in local if somebody does bother to gank it, as they truly deserve it for wasting around 25M ISK on killing it.
*) Never mine in systems with below 0.7 sec status, there is simply no reason to do so. This cuts CONCORD response time roughly in half, making life for any suicide gankers even harder.
Once you do all of this, it seems the Code Agents doesn't even bother asking for mining permit payments any longer. Seems they go straight to the targets with softer underbellies. IE. they will quietly ignore you, provided you can keep your mouth shut and let the agents have their fun in local etc.
Of course the problem is that most miners seem chronically unable to fend for themselves doing even these minimal precautions...
Have you Communicated with your fellow capsuleers today? It is good for the EVE-oconomy and o-kay for you.
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2015.04.17 12:45:57 -
[112] - Quote
Vhelnik Cojoin wrote:Canidae Invictus wrote:Well having such a safe heaven resulted in a massive population boom as people figured they need not to risk their ships or their pods etc. and they could make up for the lower payment by having multiple accounts and getting them to farm endlessly while they check back every hour or two. Welcome to EvE, I hope you like it here. That said, please ignore whatever guide it is, which has given you the impression your ships can autonomously farm unattended in HiSec for 1 to 2 hours at a time. Current game mechanics doesn't allow for this, not has this been the case for quite some time by now (years). *) NPCs in missions will shoot your drones, so AFK running missions in drone boats no longer works very well. *) The low ceiling for ore content in HiSec asteroids, combined with the cycle time of strip miners, means you need to tinker with your mining ship at least every few minutes. The time required for a single Miner II on a Venture to exhaust a large Veldspar asteroid can be quite long, but that is due to the ridiculously low yield - and thus payout - that ship provides. *) Good luck AFK farming Incursions. As for CODE. and how to coexist peacefully with them, while they whittle down your incompetent competitors: *) Put a tank on your Hulk. If you sacrifice a low slot for a DC, you save enough CPU that you can crank the EHP against Void ammo up beyond the capability of two bored Catalyst pilots to kill even in a 0.5. You loose 8% yield by doing so (considering mining drones in the total yield), yet the ship will still vastly outmine either a Skiff or a Mackinaw. *) Have all your pilots train Thermodynamics up a few notches. Overheating your shield resists takes the Hulk EHP up to a point, where it it touch and go whether 3 Catalysts can kill it in a 0.5. *) Use a T2 Siege link on your Orca booster for even more EHP goodness. The mining cap link serves no purpose with good cap skills on the Exhumer pilots. *) Brick tank your Orca booster the whole nine yeards: DC-II, 1x T2 reinforced + 3x T1 transverse bulkheads, T2 LSE, T2 Invuln + T2 Kn/Th hardeners in mids. With heat+links it will take a pretty ridiculous fleet to suicide gank this, meaning on the order of 15 Tornado/Talos pilots. No-one is likely to bother, unless you absolutly cannot help yourself provoking your local agent. *) Keep all Exhumers within easy docking range of your Orca, 2500m. Meaning you can swap ships up until the point where the shooting starts. Swap to a shuttle and jump out if a group of catalysts jumps in on you. Need to be quick though, as you need to dump your ore in the Orca fleet hangar before you can swap ships. *) Use the Orca fleet hangar as a giant jetcan, thus making your fleet ore thief proof. *) Use a T1/Meta buffer tanked Miasmos to haul ore from the Orca to a station. Empty high and rig slots, shield buffer/resists in mids, DC-I (yes, one) plus 3x meta iStabs (don't care about the sig radius increase, this is just to make the job of ore hauling easier). The cost including modules will be less than 2M ISK before insurance, essentially making the ship completely disposable. Yet the EHP with links and heat makes it a pretty tough nut to crack for a few Catalysts. Do put a 'gf!' in local if somebody does bother to gank it, as they truly deserve it for wasting around 25M ISK on killing it. *) Never mine in systems with below 0.7 sec status, there is simply no reason to do so. This cuts CONCORD response time roughly in half, making life for any suicide gankers even harder. Once you do all of this, it seems the Code Agents doesn't even bother asking for mining permit payments any longer. Seems they go straight to the targets with softer underbellies. IE. they will quietly ignore you, provided you can keep your mouth shut and let the agents have their fun in local etc. Of course the problem is that most miners seem chronically unable to fend for themselves doing even these minimal precautions...
I think I'm in love |
Canidae Invictus
Duragon Pioneer Group Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.04.22 17:30:29 -
[113] - Quote
*) NPCs in missions will shoot your drones, so AFK running missions in drone boats no longer works very well. *) The low ceiling for ore content in HiSec asteroids, combined with the cycle time of strip miners, means you need to tinker with your mining ship at least every few minutes. The time required for a single Miner II on a Venture to exhaust a large Veldspar asteroid can be quite long, but that is due to the ridiculously low yield - and thus payout - that ship provides. *) Good luck AFK farming Incursions.
Well apperently it's been a while since you did any mining in hi-sec but I believe you missed a couple points on your couple of weeks in EvE having been busy cashing in some PLEX'es. It is with my utmost sincere grievances that I deliver you the news that:
[/quote]1) It is possible in fact despite how low hi-sec ore values are still a widely done practice to get an orca and then get a bunch of alts and then mine baby mine till the break of dawn with some "effort" in between while your hauling your ass from the belt to the station. As far as the NPC's in the belts go I can't express just how sad I am that this inconveinience still exists. CCP outh to remove travel time for oca's in hi-sec and just make them a vacuum with infinite storage ad then proceed to disband the horrific and obviously overpowered abonimations of NPC's that we have in hi-sec belts. (Suggestion replace them withh cookies and pancakes)
2)AFK doing missions is possible and I have seen some people pull it off (Auto targeting missiles) though it is laughably slower and you might likely die. What I'm more concerned about is when you're looking at the screen you can manage as many accounts as you like without the chance of being blown up so long as you're not shitf*ck ******** and are paying "some" attention.
3)Incursions like missions have a Very high ISK yield for what has become something some would argue to be safer than certain Level 4 missions. This and the fact that it literally gives liquid ISK instead of say %100 Concord LP is troublesome on the ISK inflation part. What annoys me further is reading through the dev logs you'll see that incursions have enjoyed some plentiful buff's in the recent years as well. So you want to AFK run -¦ncursions? Have at it pal, we can just cut out the part where other ships fire at you. That sounds just about right.[/quote]
[/quote]Of course the problem is that most miners seem chronically unable to fend for themselves doing even these minimal precautions... [/quote]
It is ture that it's exteremely easy to avoid these ganks and so many people (not just miners and especially freighters) failing to do so is just another proof how pink and fossy the world of a hi-sec farmer is and how they've never been violated.
As far as these ganks go:
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Vhelnik Cojoin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Canidae Invictus wrote: 1) It is possible in fact despite how low hi-sec ore values are still a widely done practice to get an orca and then get a bunch of alts and then mine baby mine till the break of dawn with some "effort" in between while your hauling your ass from the belt to the station. As far as the NPC's in the belts go I can't express just how sad I am that this inconveinience still exists. CCP outh to remove travel time for oca's in hi-sec and just make them a vacuum with infinite storage ad then proceed to disband the horrific and obviously overpowered abonimations of NPC's that we have in hi-sec belts. (Suggestion replace them withh cookies and pancakes) Nice sarcasm but seems to be missing my point.
I doubt anyone could claim that mining, even when multi-boxing, is remotely hard or difficult to learn or do. Whether it should be so is open to debate.
However the whole 'mining is AFK income' narrative frequently used by various groups is silly. Unless, that is, I have a vastly different definition of what 'AFK' stands for, compared to large parts of the rest of the EvE universe.
I guess you could use a fleet of alts in Miner II + 3 MLU fitted Miasmos industrials and mine large Veldspar asteroids. Let us be optimistic and say each rock holds 80'000 units, IE. 8000 m3. With full Orca boost it would take each ship about 35 minutes to exhaust one asteroid. However you'd need roughly 16+2 alts to give you the same yield as a single Hulk pilot. The +2 part is the Orca pilot plus an ore hauler.
If you used Prospects with just one mining laser on each ship, then you could go AFK for 12 minutes at a time. You'd only need 5+2 alts to make up for a single Hulk (again plus Orca pilot and hauler) though. So 7 versus 3 accounts, plus the need for finding a spot with a lot of huge (for HiSec) asteroids.
I have never seen either of these scenarios done, nor have I ever heard of The New Order wiping such a fleet op off the map.
Canidae Invictus wrote: 2)AFK doing missions is possible and I have seen some people pull it off (Auto targeting missiles) though it is laughably slower and you might likely die. What I'm more concerned about is when you're looking at the screen you can manage as many accounts as you like without the chance of being blown up so long as you're not shitf*ck ******** and are paying "some" attention. Again I'm not suggesting that running missions is hard to do, yet it still isn't AFK in my book. Defender/FoF missiles have too low dps to break at least some NPC tanks, so you'd have to cherry pick your missions with care. Then there are the missions, where pulling the triggers in the wrong order will kill any HiSec tank, marauders in Bastion included.
Canidae Invictus wrote: So you want to AFK run -¦ncursions? No. I was suggesting it cannot be done.
You seem to put an equal sign between an easy/low risk activity and actually and literally being Away From the Keyboard. I don't.
Have you Communicated with your fellow capsuleers today? It is good for the EvE-oconomy and o-kay for you.
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Dana Goodeye
Quafe Commandos Point Blank Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.25 04:21:26 -
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this is pretty much true. when im 'afk mining', im still at the keyboard, and swiching back to eve in every minutes. if im away for 2 mins, my procu is stop mining. and i do this kind of afk mining in 0.6. so yes, its not true afk. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
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Posted - 2015.04.25 04:31:32 -
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Canidae Invictus wrote:Here is what I like about CODE. just the fact that they are ganking the hell out of hi-sec industry though I hope that they could do it more severely.
Then grab a shovel and dig in.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
A recent survey of applicants to CODE. corporations showed that 100% accepted James 315 as their saviour. You can't argue with facts.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2015.04.25 04:34:56 -
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Dana Goodeye wrote:this is pretty much true. when im 'afk mining', im still at the keyboard, and swiching back to eve in every minutes. if im away for 2 mins, my procu is stop mining. and i do this kind of afk mining in 0.6. so yes, its not true afk. You need to pick your roids better. If I was so inclined I could afk my Proc for at least 2 or 3 cycles in a 0.5. Survey scanners and pre targeting are key, do it right and you never get a part cycle, which leaves some stuff for the guys in ventures and the like.
AFK miners are the ones that sit there until the roid pops, and don't switch to the next one, there's plenty of them out there.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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