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Chenguang Hucel-Ge
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
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Posted - 2015.03.15 12:57:25 -
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No, I'm not going to try this. I may be dumb, but not insane. However, it seems that first thing ANYONE tries is mining and ANYONE got an idea to mine PLEX on his Venture.
The question is GÇö how all of them come up to this?
I do remember my time, I was shooting small crosses, then investigated some signatures, found wormhole and said "Hello" in local. Returning to shooting crosses. With lucky drop of Serpentis Hardener early, hearing stories about salvage and getting links on quite costly and light armor plates with tripped powers, learning about LP, it's value (It was about 800 isk/lp for non-SoE corps) and book that boosts LP gain by 50% and ability to dish out about 2.5 mil per hour in bounties only running anoms in rail catalyst, not counting anything else. |
David Therman
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.15 13:13:10 -
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It's something that baffles me, too; I imagine back in the day when PLEX prices were a lot lower then they are now, it would've been possible. Maybe they're looking up out-dated articles on how to play F2P in EvE or something like that? Even then, it seems a bit odd; rinse and repeat the same (in my opinion, fairly mundane) activity for x amount of hours per day, just so you can do the exact same thing the following month...? I'm pretty sure that's crossing the line between "playing" and "working".
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Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross Eternal Pretorian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.15 13:37:15 -
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David Therman wrote:It's something that baffles me, too; I imagine back in the day when PLEX prices were a lot lower then they are now, it would've been possible. Maybe they're looking up out-dated articles on how to play F2P in EvE or something like that? Even then, it seems a bit odd; rinse and repeat the same (in my opinion, fairly mundane) activity for x amount of hours per day, just so you can do the exact same thing the following month...? I'm pretty sure that's crossing the line between "playing" and "working".
^^ This probably. Unfortunately b/c of all the new stuff plex does the price has inflated so badly that it's no longer really practical to pay for subscription via plex as a new-ish player. But you see old references to it everywhere. |
Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2015.03.15 13:49:35 -
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odd.
I didnt know you could buy isk using GTC and/or plex until 2 years after I started playing. Didnt even occur to me to be honest.
But I guess thats how it is these days. No wonder the NPE fails.... |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.03.15 14:15:56 -
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"Ok I installed the game, what can I do?" "Oh hey, I can mine with this Venture ship." "Hey maybe I can make enough profit to buy a PLEX, then it's playing the game for free!" ??? "Doesn't seem to work, I better post about it, figure out why."
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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
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Posted - 2015.03.15 14:16:42 -
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Well if you go hard out for the first ~20 mil. You can buy the gas mining skillbook and get into gas mining fairly fast. That can be an easy 10M -20M or more per hour in lowsec. So assuming you don't die in your first few loads, and don't die all that often afterwards (not so hard in lowsec in a ventrue), You could do it with like 40 to 80 hours of semi afk mining.
WH diving in a prospect could make quite a lot more, well over 100M per load.
Don't get me wrong. I totally think it is not worth it. But even someone in our corp is logged on 24/7 trying to plex. They are crazy.
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good.
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Leiliana Atruin
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.03.15 14:57:33 -
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Actually it is entirely possible to plex you account from month 1 if all you have is a venture. If I wanted to I could plex one account per week from 3 hours playtime per day.
Ediy: Just to point out that is only if I wanted to. It is not as boring as mining because you cant go afk, but it is still mining so keep that in mind... |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.03.15 16:41:25 -
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Mining for a PLEX in a Venture?
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Omgitsbears
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.15 17:01:16 -
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I was able to afford 3 PLEX while semi-afk mining in order to marathon the X Files. If i'm watching a t.v. show then I might as well have Eve-Online open at the same time because it's very easy to afk and make isk at the same time. |
Orlacc
840
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Posted - 2015.03.15 17:29:56 -
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Sorry but it just seems like a sad way to play the game.
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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Darren Airtex
Born Imperialism
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Posted - 2015.03.15 21:17:45 -
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It can be done, just not in a asteroid field, you want to make a plex in a venture the way to go is with gas harvesters. 1 hold of the right gas in a Venture can bring in 47 to 50 million ISK. Harvesting at a slow pace and goofing-off, you can mine 4 loads in a few hours. All in all, it is not that hard to do. |
Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force A T O N E M E N T
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Posted - 2015.03.15 23:10:47 -
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Best way to get PLEX for a new player imo is to either do FW Missions / PvP Plexes or to engage in Exploration (focusing on data / relic sites while combat skills flesh out). |
Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2015.03.16 11:10:21 -
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Possible if mining C5 gas.
Getting to the gas & getting it out lies the true adventure. |
Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
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Posted - 2015.03.16 12:16:04 -
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Chenguang Hucel-Ge wrote:No, I'm not going to try this. I may be dumb, but not insane. However, it seems that first thing ANYONE tries is mining and ANYONE got an idea to mine PLEX on his Venture.
The question is GÇö how all of them come up to this?
Actually I think your question does not warrant an answer because it is based on wrong assumptions.
I don't think a lot of people get the idea to mine for plex in a venture.
I think a lot of people, if not the majority are happy paying CCP a subscription to do whatever they enjoy ingame.
The remaining people - probably a monirity - may wish to PLEX their accounts. The majority of these persons will do what they enjoy most and earn money doing missions or faction warfare or exploring or ratting or research the most efficient ways to earn ISK. Only a fraction of people wishing to plex their accountswill go down the mining route as mining is one of the least profitable professions.
Of this fraction doing mining to plex their accounts most will easily notice that upgrading your mining vessel to a barge will greatly increase the profit. I think only a minority of the fraction of a minority will stubbornly insist on mining in a Venture. In fact until today I have never spoken to, encountered or even heard of any person wishing to mine his/her ass off with a venture to buy PLEX. |
Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.03.16 13:15:33 -
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Leiliana Atruin wrote:Post redacted:
Yes it is possible to plex an account in a week playing playing 3 hours per day, but it is not for everyone and you cant do it AFK.
why would you want to play a game where you make money to pay for a game which you play afk?
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Iroquoiss Pliskin
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.16 13:46:36 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Leiliana Atruin wrote:Post redacted:
Yes it is possible to plex an account in a week playing playing 3 hours per day, but it is not for everyone and you cant do it AFK. why would you want to play a game where you make money to pay for a game which you play afk?
Heh heh.
PLEX prices were inflated due to ISBox/botting use. They have come down since December policy announcement and have still further to fall. |
Leiliana Atruin
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.03.16 14:02:40 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Leiliana Atruin wrote:Post redacted:
Yes it is possible to plex an account in a week playing playing 3 hours per day, but it is not for everyone and you cant do it AFK. why would you want to play a game where you make money to pay for a game which you play afk?
Different people play in different ways, and if someone wants to plex their account, then more power to them. I do actually manage to plex the only account that I have, but that really is because I have nothing else to do with the ISK right now. And I actually manage to plex the account doing something that I enjoy doing (and no, it is not mining!).
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Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
247
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Posted - 2015.03.16 14:15:02 -
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Leiliana Atruin wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Leiliana Atruin wrote:Post redacted:
Yes it is possible to plex an account in a week playing playing 3 hours per day, but it is not for everyone and you cant do it AFK. why would you want to play a game where you make money to pay for a game which you play afk? Different people play in different ways, and if someone wants to plex their account, then more power to them. I do actually manage to plex the only account that I have, but that really is because I have nothing else to do with the ISK right now. And I actually manage to plex the account doing something that I enjoy doing (and no, it is not mining!).
im not saying people shouldnt plex accounts but whats the point in paying for a game your only going to afk 50% or the time, seems a waste
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Leiliana Atruin
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
26
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Posted - 2015.03.16 14:34:39 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Leiliana Atruin wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Leiliana Atruin wrote:Post redacted:
Yes it is possible to plex an account in a week playing playing 3 hours per day, but it is not for everyone and you cant do it AFK. why would you want to play a game where you make money to pay for a game which you play afk? Different people play in different ways, and if someone wants to plex their account, then more power to them. I do actually manage to plex the only account that I have, but that really is because I have nothing else to do with the ISK right now. And I actually manage to plex the account doing something that I enjoy doing (and no, it is not mining!). im not saying people shouldnt plex accounts but whats the point in paying for a game your only going to afk 50% or the time, seems a waste
Agreed, but I thought I made it pretty clear that if you want to plex your account using a venture, you cant actually be afk while doing it.
I personally don't do mining to plex my account. I just said it is possible. |
Mudd3
13. Enigma Project
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Posted - 2015.03.16 15:07:53 -
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Work at McDonalds for $5/hr. That's 1 PLEX per 4 hours (i.e. 200m ISK/hr).
Can't beat that ISK/hr rate. And it's just as enjoyable and edifying as any other money making activity in Eve.
Alternatively, if you just find yourself missing the joys of EVE PvE from time to time, which is totally understandable, just try inserting a rusty screwdriver through your left eyeball.
It feels just like the real thing! Guaranteed to give you the exact same satisfaction as making money in Eve! |
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.03.16 15:52:19 -
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I dropped idea to pay for the game by PLEX on my 1st or 2nd week. Calculated that i need to make like 10 million ISK every day to buy PLEX for next month. And it was normal for me to make like 1-2 million per day doing missions (i think i got to lvl2 by that moment). So i just opened account management and checked the prices. Found that paying for 12 month will make it very cheap (and in 2010 i have like 1/2 of my current salary). Payed once or twice by PLEX since then just because it was more convenient that use RL money.
On the other hand i knew family pair who did mine for days just to buy PLEX. They just 'couldn't afford paying with real money'. They used to mine almost WHOLE day. He mines from morning to the time he leaves to work. She mines till evening when he back. THen he mines till night..... That was and is crazy for me!
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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2Sonas1Cup
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Posted - 2015.03.16 16:20:45 -
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C320 is atm 71mil isks per hour,.. on a venture.
I have no idea what youre talking about, if 10 hours a month of mining to plex an account is too much for you then perhaps you should just stop playing video games altogether. |
Sam Spock
The Arnold Connection
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Posted - 2015.03.16 20:18:08 -
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One of the things that attracted me to the game was the idea of playing the game to pay for the game. I can afford the sub no problem but I felt it was a good goal to aim for. I figured out it was not going to work in a venture mining rocks rather early on. It does not mean I did not have fun trying.
For someone who is not pvp oriented, mining is a good way to make isk and learn about the game at the same time. I would mine my scordite and read about other things I could be getting into.
I don't mine much any more. I took that learning period and was able to do something else. Still I have not paid real money for the game since my second month in.
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
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Posted - 2015.03.16 21:22:03 -
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You can realistically make about 30M ISK/hr doing exploration in lowsec, and it's much more entertaining than running missions. You'll also get to say hello to some of the more interesting personalities in the game :)
Day 0 Advice for New Players
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Scira Crimson
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.19 11:04:47 -
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On my alt I got a mining barge (retriever). My idea was to get some income while afking and therefore the high ore capacity was a very important factor.
However, I think mining is not worth the effort, even for semi afking. Personally I like it, that afk aktivities actually require active activity^^
If you want to afk stuff, its probably better to do anomalies in a gila rather than mining. (at least it was the better "effort to income" ratio) Having to reallocate the mining laser makes mining not a very good afk activity imo.
My low skill retrriever would get filled in ~30 min(~24000m-¦, worth ~4 mio?) For every load of cargo Id have to re assign asteroids ~4x. Too much interruption.
As I said: I think preventing full afk activities is a good thing but what we might conclude is, that its a very bad advice to a new player to make money by mining.
1, its boring 2, the income is actually not that great, even for afk 3, there are other low effort activities. (Id advise: afk high sec anomalies and PI industry) 4, better play the game active |
Charlie Jacobson
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Posted - 2015.03.19 11:39:46 -
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Sam Spock wrote: For someone who is not pvp oriented, mining is a good way to make isk and learn about the game at the same time. I would mine my scordite and read about other things I could be getting into.
Mining is only a good way to learn about the game if you get ganked while doing it. :)
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