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TrickyBlackSteel
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2015.03.10 10:03:37 -
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Hello. You all know jumpfreighters and how much they cost(7kkk),maybe we can add some drones for defending such a big ship,(in like star trek movies),lets take a case,a jf jumping trough gate and an interceptor tackle him,he can` do nothing,just watching his own slow death,what if he launch 5 hammer,or 5 hobgoblin,or ecm drones,i`m just saying, Why not? |
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
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Posted - 2015.03.10 10:09:14 -
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it make sense to allow freighter some self defense module. but ccp thinks dits not nessecary. if freighters/jump freighters could recevie atleast one missile launcher slot it could give them ability to defend , drone bay in freighter is inadequate to ship class so only self defense modules. maybe built-on ecm jammers they could not be unfitted but it could have hard pointed four ecm jammers for each faction . so it could potentially jam single hostile. optional one or two high slots with launcher hardpoints
we do have deep space transports with weapons . lets look at impel he has two launcher slots (sic!) why not give jump freighters same thing |
EVE-Lotteries
EVE-Lotteries Corporation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 10:16:31 -
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JF/Freighters are not designed to be self suffisient but to have a support fleet if you want to move it more secure ^^
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Samillian
Angry Mustellid The Periphery
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Posted - 2015.03.10 10:29:07 -
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Considering what is usually used to take down freighters and JF's a few drones just aren't going to be of any value.
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TrickyBlackSteel
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2015.03.10 10:54:19 -
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I am saying in general,null sec or low sec tacklers,(i understand thatt in highsec is kinda hard because of suiciders gangs,but anyway such a big ship and no secure... |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.03.10 11:05:46 -
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A Ceptor can take care of 1 flight of light drones on it's own while still tackling the JF.
The security for your JF comes from not using gates out of High sec (and in High sec only with a webber alt/friend) and jumping from station to station (that are not kickout and/or with a terribly small docking sphere). If you do that, you are 100% safe. What else do you need?
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:40:22 -
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TrickyBlackSteel wrote:Hello. You all know jumpfreighters and how much they cost(7kkk),maybe we can add some drones for defending such a big ship,(in like star trek movies),lets take a case,a jf jumping trough gate and an interceptor tackle him,he can` do nothing,just watching his own slow death,what if he launch 5 hammer,or 5 hobgoblin,or ecm drones,i`m just saying, Why not?
I will say this again once. I will speak slowly and use small words.
LEAVE. FREIGHTERS. ALONE. FFS.
Last time you lot asked for freighters to get some kind of defense, they nerfed them to hell and back so you could have defense (without capacity) or capacity (without defense) or a craptastic mix of the two.
Do you folks never learn from your previous mistakes?
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Alexis Nightwish
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:44:56 -
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JF are basically unkillable outside of HS. In HS a JF's largest threat is a Machariel, and due to the way bumping mechanics and HS aggression work, drones wouldn't do anything.
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 15:23:43 -
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A jumpfreighters weapon and self defence is its jump drive. |
Tabyll Altol
Breaking.Bad Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2015.03.10 15:24:22 -
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TrickyBlackSteel wrote:Hello. You all know jumpfreighters and how much they cost(7kkk),maybe we can add some drones for defending such a big ship,(in like star trek movies),lets take a case,a jf jumping trough gate and an interceptor tackle him,he can` do nothing,just watching his own slow death,what if he launch 5 hammer,or 5 hobgoblin,or ecm drones,i`m just saying, Why not?
No its a ship for moving stuff. If you wanna defend it take some Carriers or something similar. Or make a fleet.
A Titan is a very big ship and can-Št hit a frig and is more expensive than a jf.
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.03.10 19:22:56 -
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It always baffled me how CCP would do stuff like giving interceptor interdiction nullifier, instead of large vulnerable noncombat ships like JF. Large noncombat ships are the only ones that can get these kinds of advantages without risk screwing up pvp balance.
None of my chars can fly ships like jf, orca, or rorqual. They can only gank them. But I have to admit, it would be carry little risk to give them abilities like interdiction nullification and dscan immunity. The worst that can happen is a few people who don't try hard enough in the first place, lose a few kms. Giving these things to potent, specialized pvp boats like interceptors and recons, is picking the most risky subject possible to conduct potentially game-destroying experiments. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.03.10 20:07:18 -
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I have a bunch of little drones that come with me when i am moving my JF some with ECM others with webs works real well
find or buy some friends
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
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Posted - 2015.03.10 20:30:57 -
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(Jump) Freighters are capital ships, which were never intended to be solo ships. Get some friends to defend you.
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
2130
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Posted - 2015.03.10 20:48:09 -
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I don't really think a flight of lights would hurt anyone's gameplay much.
I mean, who doesn't want to see a freighter with a weapons timer? |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
1289
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Posted - 2015.03.10 21:24:44 -
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Rowells wrote:I don't really think a flight of lights would hurt anyone's gameplay much.
I mean, who doesn't want to see a freighter with a weapons timer? I do not care about a freighter with a weapon timer. Seeing one is not going to compensate for what CCP is going to take away in return for giving them drones. Besides, I have already seen suspect freighters, freighters with kill rights (very common scam these days) and even freighters with criminal status flying around. Weapon timers because of something as useless as drones is not necessary to have.
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Violet Crumble
EOL Logistics
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Posted - 2015.03.10 23:24:22 -
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TrickyBlackSteel wrote:lets take a case,a jf jumping trough gate and an interceptor tackle him,he can` do nothing,just watching his own slow death, As a jumpfreighter pilot I have to ask, why is a JF jumping through a gate?
If it's highsec, sure. I fly my JF in highsec between trade hubs, but then the risk of being tackled is virtually 0. A webbing alt reduces that even further. In the case of bumpers or gankers becoming a risk in the rare case that my webbing alt dc's, then I have an emergency cyno on standby so I can jump to lowsec if needed.
If it's lowsec or null, then why use gates. 90% reduction in jump fatigue and max 10 AU jump range based on skill means you should never have to use a low/null gate with a JF except for a gate connecting to highsec.
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Arthur Aihaken
X A X
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Posted - 2015.03.11 02:08:44 -
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My kingdom for a damage control...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.11 04:32:37 -
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sabre906 wrote:It always baffled me how CCP would do stuff like giving interceptor interdiction nullifier, instead of large vulnerable noncombat ships like JF. Large noncombat ships are the only ones that can get these kinds of advantages without risk screwing up pvp balance.
None of my chars can fly ships like jf, orca, or rorqual. They can only gank them. But I have to admit, it would be carry little risk to give them abilities like interdiction nullification and dscan immunity. The worst that can happen is a few people who don't try hard enough in the first place, lose a few kms. Giving these things to potent, specialized pvp boats like interceptors and recons, is picking the most risky subject possible to conduct potentially game-destroying experiments.
Supers were immune to bubble before. Enough noobs dying changed that.
Same reason for jump fatigue, fighter nerf, fighter/fighter bomber assign take away, etc...
Gotta give the noobs a chance, even when fighting 5 years... 10 years... vets... |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2015.03.11 05:00:04 -
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d0cTeR9 wrote:Supers were immune to bubble before. Enough noobs dying changed that. Supercapitals were never immune to bubbles. That was the primary (and only) means of keeping them pinned (at the time).
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
1289
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Posted - 2015.03.11 07:46:18 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:My kingdom for a damage control... I hope you are joking. Right? Right?!
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Arthur Aihaken
X A X
4110
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Posted - 2015.03.11 07:53:05 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:I hope you are joking. Right? Right?! And rigs.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.11 11:23:06 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:My kingdom for a damage control...
God, have mercy on them, they know not what they do.
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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Violet Crumble
EOL Logistics
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:17:32 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:I hope you are joking. Right? Right?! And rigs. I've never put a damage control on mine, but why can't you fit one already if you want? Is PG/CPU too tight? I've never even considered it.
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
1289
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:31:24 -
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Freighters have 3 PG/1CPU.
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Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:49:43 -
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TrickyBlackSteel wrote:Hello. You all know jumpfreighters and how much they cost(7kkk),maybe we can add some drones for defending such a big ship,(in like star trek movies),lets take a case,a jf jumping trough gate and an interceptor tackle him,he can` do nothing
If you're stupid enough to do this, you deserve to have your ship explode. Not supported. The tools already exist to keep your freighter relatively safe, use them.
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