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Faby Rasputin
XoXCorp
7
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Posted - 2015.02.12 17:45:36 -
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Michael Bone wrote:Faby Rasputin wrote:Michael Bone wrote:1) anyone who uses that has to trust whoever compiled it, whereas this is a script anyone can read and I linked you to a github.. with the source code... w/e Sure. However, better than 90% end users can't/don't compile from sauce so they have to use a precompiled binary and take the makers word that it hasn't been tampered or changed...and that has happened. Google it. Clean source, infected official binaries.
That doesn't change my point. |
Makari Aeron
The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium
190
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Posted - 2015.02.12 18:07:33 -
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Honestly, if you're that paranoid about an infected official binary, then I suppose you aught to learn how to compile.
CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty.
CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29833
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Posted - 2015.02.12 18:41:37 -
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Jesus Faby gtfo. We get it.
Michael don't talk to Faby, we got this ****. No need to get your hands dirty.
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Michael Bone
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2015.02.13 01:58:07 -
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Rain6637 wrote:You sir have a PLEX coming your way. you've just improved my login experience 1,000% This is glorious do you know what it's like to have ten launchers open, even if I have a G-Key bound to password+ENTER. One thing that is always true for me is, any type of optimization for one client translates into a ten-fold benefit.
Hey, thanks! Didn't see it, was at work. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29847
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Posted - 2015.02.13 03:18:39 -
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Make this thing handle updates and I'll send you another lol
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Michael Bone
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2015.02.13 04:33:39 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Make this thing handle updates and I'll send you another lol
If this handled updates it'd be just as bad as the eve launcher, because it would update when you tried to run eve, not when they are first pushed.
I could make something that checks for updates as a windows service, like the adobe or google chrome updater services, but that would be a compiled exe.
I could also set this script so that if it is launched with the /update argument, it will check for an update at then do nothing if there isnt one. that way it could be run at intervals by the task scheduler in windows, or manually. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29851
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Posted - 2015.02.13 05:30:53 -
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Right? Like, I don't know, the way we wish the official launcher would function, as a passive thing that doesn't become a dud after the initial version check.
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SeneschaI
Ordo Ministorum Violent Society
16
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Posted - 2015.02.13 16:11:48 -
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what the heck is a symbolic link? And i think CCP phantom read it wrong when he made the weekly...If i'm reading this thread's hijack correctly, isn't a symbolic link supposed to eliminate the need for multiple clients? |
Makari Aeron
The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium
190
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Posted - 2015.02.13 16:27:14 -
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in Windows command prompt (CMD):
mklink /j "path-to-symlink-directory" "Path-to-actual-directory"
Symbolic Link (Wikipedia)
TL;DR: it's a "fake" clone of a folder that windows treats as a separate entity despite pulling from the same files on the disk. A symbolic link eliminates the need for multiple client installations, not multiple clients themselves. It's simply a replacement for having 6 different EVE installs on your HDD/SDD.
EDIT:
In your settings folder (see here), you'll see new settings folders after you've started the client once. So if you Symlink folder name is "EVE 1", you'll see "eve_1_eve_tranquility" in the folder name.
CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty.
CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
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SJ Astralana
Syncore
95
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:16:29 -
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Makari Aeron wrote:mklink /j "path-to-symlink-directory" "Path-to-actual-directory"
/d (directory symbol link) works better for me, as junctions report the duplicated space used
Makari Aeron wrote: This is for Vista and Win7/8/8.1/10, for XP you're SOL.
Symlinks are built into NTFS. I definitely used something with XP to run multiple clients off one download.
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Makari Aeron
The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium
190
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:28:47 -
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Updated, thanks.
CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty.
CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29862
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Posted - 2015.02.14 01:20:08 -
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Client settings are only half of the problem. The other part is the shared files. I'm aware the launcher and client installs will be changed in the future to share common files. I plan to reverse that, and make sure they remain separate.
For those of you who have had success using symlinks, I'd like for you to quantify / qualify your symlink usage. As in, what type of activity do you engage in, and with how many clients.
Part of the problem in the recent fix for asset calls was the frequency of those calls. The asset call problems were exacerbated by the speed of your hardware. Sharing common files would certainly make the problem more likely.
So Michael, I hope you will allow for distinct installs if you develop this further. The other utility linked in this thread, and the players who use symlinks have decided to share a single install, but the fact is it lacks the mechanical safeguard of keeping game files compartmentalized by client instance.
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Nolan Kotulan
Nova Tabula Rasa
91
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Posted - 2015.02.14 03:52:29 -
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I use symlinks with 2 accounts, playing them at the same time, and with "window size, graphic settings, and such" remembered differently. Never had any problem.
So I absolutely don't understand what CCP Phantom is saying in This Week in EVE #68 - Week 7/2015
Quote: When using multiple EVE client installations, CCP FoxFour (and others) found it useful to use symbolic links. Why would you want to have separate installation directories? Because settings are stored based on client install location. So if you want things like window size, graphic settings, and such remembered differently, you can use multiple installation directories.
I have one and only one installation directory and still separate settings. This is precisely why I use symlinks.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29865
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Posted - 2015.02.14 04:04:14 -
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What happens when too many clients share the same resources.
Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
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Nolan Kotulan
Nova Tabula Rasa
91
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Posted - 2015.02.14 13:06:02 -
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I'm not saying that using more than 2 clients with only one installation directory can't create proplems as I don't know because I have never used more than 2 clients at the same time.
What I don't understand is why CCP Phantom is saying that we need multiple installation directories if we want separate settings as it is not true at all.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29866
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Posted - 2015.02.14 17:42:46 -
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Oh, it wasn't directed at you, it was just me shoring up a loose end in a point I made previously.
The odd thing about the launcher is why not phone home for an update check after downtime, perhaps once every 30 minutes. There's the issue of the launcher updating itself and requiring a restart, but steam handles that nicely by not restarting unless you allow it, and it maintains updates under its control in the meantime.
Michael, I hope you keep it as simple as possible for yourself. Even something that opens the launcher and closes it 15 minutes after downtime every night is fine with me. It gets the job done. Perhaps a double / sequential activation to account for those times the launcher updates itself and closes immediately (and requires another start to apply a client patch).
Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
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Cat Harkness
Twilight Labs
36
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Posted - 2015.02.16 17:14:50 -
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SJ Astralana wrote:I applaud your efforts, as I HATE the damned EVE launcher. But the reason I hate it is it's always open, and never has the brains to auto-update before launching the client which tells me it needs to be updated.
What do you mean "is always open"?
Under Launcher Settings/Startup there is a checkbox to close the Launcher after starting Eve.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29926
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Posted - 2015.02.16 23:47:41 -
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I took it to mean SJ would prefer the launcher remains active and effective while kept open, including managing updates after downtime. So yes you can make it close itself after launching, but SJ would prefer it continues working while open.
Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
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Cat Harkness
Twilight Labs
36
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Posted - 2015.02.17 00:07:30 -
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Rain6637 wrote:I took it to mean SJ would prefer the launcher remains active and effective while kept open, including managing updates after downtime. So yes you can make it close itself after launching, but SJ would prefer it continues working while open.
Ahh ok. Well most games require you to restart their launcher to get updates. I am not saying that there are not some that will work. I just do not know of any at this time. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29927
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Posted - 2015.02.17 00:11:44 -
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Steam, Origin, Bnet, etc
Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
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Nolan Kotulan
Nova Tabula Rasa
92
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Posted - 2015.02.17 08:00:10 -
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Deleted, nevermind.
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
3933
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Posted - 2015.02.18 09:51:20 -
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Nolan Kotulan wrote:I use symlinks with 2 accounts, playing them at the same time, and with "window size, graphic settings, and such" remembered differently. Never had any problem. So I absolutely don't understand what CCP Phantom is saying in This Week in EVE #68 - Week 7/2015Quote: When using multiple EVE client installations, CCP FoxFour (and others) found it useful to use symbolic links. Why would you want to have separate installation directories? Because settings are stored based on client install location. So if you want things like window size, graphic settings, and such remembered differently, you can use multiple installation directories.
I have one and only one installation directory and still separate settings. This is precisely why I use symlinks.
That is what CCP Phantom is quoting me as saying. It may not be worded the best, but the settings are stored based on where the client thinks it's installed. So symlinks fake that and allow for multiple settings.
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Nolan Kotulan
Nova Tabula Rasa
92
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Posted - 2015.02.18 10:25:49 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Nolan Kotulan wrote:I use symlinks with 2 accounts, playing them at the same time, and with "window size, graphic settings, and such" remembered differently. Never had any problem. So I absolutely don't understand what CCP Phantom is saying in This Week in EVE #68 - Week 7/2015Quote: When using multiple EVE client installations, CCP FoxFour (and others) found it useful to use symbolic links. Why would you want to have separate installation directories? Because settings are stored based on client install location. So if you want things like window size, graphic settings, and such remembered differently, you can use multiple installation directories.
I have one and only one installation directory and still separate settings. This is precisely why I use symlinks. That is what CCP Phantom is quoting me as saying. It may not be worded the best, but the settings are stored based on where the client thinks it's installed. So symlinks fake that and allow for multiple settings.
OK, but then yes, I confirm, the way it is said is misleading.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30416
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Posted - 2015.02.24 02:16:34 -
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This is how multiple clients can make calls for the same files, even when input multicasting is not used:
align fleet to gate fleet warp pre-jump each client by clicking gate in overview mid-warp and pressing D ships all jump at the same time upon landing simultaneous session changes
So. Symlinks is a settings workaround, but presents the same problem of asset calls (while using the same install).
Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
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Malai Egivand
Touring New Eden Haven.
2
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Posted - 2015.04.26 18:24:56 -
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I took some time this morning to get this working on my setup. Nice work!
Two issues that people may encounter, however:
1. If you're currently using PowerShell 2.0 (and a lot of people still are), you may encounter minor problems. Apparently $PSScriptRoot was altered a bit for 3.0/4.0, and this script seems to be written for the latter PS versions. You'll know that's going on if encrypted.dat ends up in C:\ rather than the script directory. I upgraded to PS4 and all works flawlessly. (It may still otherwise work fine in 2.0/3.0 - I upgraded to 4 before testing it all out thoroughly.)
2. Don't even bother trying to make the PS1 script itself double-clickable. Instead, create a .BAT in the same directory as the script that includes only the line:
start powershell -command "& '.\autologin.ps1'"
Of course, change the script name to whatever you're using. Then shortcut to the batch file.
Thanks again. Great tool. And for anyone who worries about this on a security level, no. There's nothing in there that hijacks anything - it just stores credentials locally and then simulates the launcher action. Done and done. |
Jessica Kirsch
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
0
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Posted - 2015.05.10 15:13:43 -
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Hi, im getting a wall of red text running the script, it works on my windows 8 pc's but recently installed windows 10 on one of the pc's and now this script isnt working anymore, im thinking it has something to do with browsers, at least thats what im seeing in the red text, but im not fully positive i tried installing firefox and chrome to see if the script would try to use a different browser, but it sais that the internet explorer engine is missing, which it is since windows 10 doesnt use internet explorer anymore its now project spartan. also windows 10 uses a new version of pwoershell so not sure if that has anything to do with it. im not a programmer, theres some scripts i can manage to do but this part is beyond my knowlege. im hoing someone has a solution for this, ty in advanced
posting the print screen i got of the red text, http://imgur.com/JjoufPd |
Jessica Kirsch
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
0
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Posted - 2015.05.10 15:42:30 -
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I SOLVED IT omg im so proud of myself. ok
everywhere in the script where it sais
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64) AppleWebKit/535.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/17.0.963.15 Safari/535.11
i had to add Windows NT 10 to it, since the new kernal version for windows 10 is 10
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; Windows NT 10; WOW64) AppleWebKit/535.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/17.0.963.15 Safari/535.11 |
Sarmatiko
1684
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Posted - 2015.05.14 12:41:18 -
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Malai Egivand wrote:I took some time this morning to get this working on my setup. Nice work!
Two issues that people may encounter, however:
1. If you're currently using PowerShell 2.0 (and a lot of people still are), you may encounter minor problems. Apparently $PSScriptRoot was altered a bit for 3.0/4.0, and this script seems to be written for the latter PS versions. You'll know that's going on if encrypted.dat ends up in C:\ rather than the script directory. I upgraded to PS4 and all works flawlessly. (It may still otherwise work fine in 2.0/3.0 - I upgraded to 4 before testing it all out thoroughly.)
2. Don't even bother trying to make the PS1 script itself double-clickable. Instead, create a .BAT in the same directory as the script that includes only the line:
start powershell -command "& '.\autologin.ps1'"
Thanks for the tips!
In my case (Windows 7 x64) upgrading to PS 3.0 wasn't enough to execute the script, but PS 4.0 solved all errors.
And that batch line caused permission errors for me for some reason (launching script directly from shell worked as intended, but bat failed) so after brief searching I've changed it to: powershell.exe -executionpolicy bypass -file .\autologin.ps1
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Michael Bone
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
11
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Posted - 2015.05.19 19:38:42 -
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Updated. Please download the new version, it's much more reliable.
EDIT: Oh, and I'm testing out letting it handle client updates. The new sharedcache feature should simplify this. |
Cymion
Void.Tech Get Off My Lawn
2
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Posted - 2015.05.21 21:10:25 -
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is this still not working for symlink accounts? or am i special needs? keeps telling me my login token is wrong when i try to call upon the symlinked directory |
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