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Myxx
Atropos Group
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Posted - 2011.12.01 01:46:00 -
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I think its well documented that the NeX store isn't well liked and that its introduction in incarna was a major souce of the rage against the expansion at the time. This post serves as an idea for a roadmap for closing the NeX store without completely tossing away the ideas that came with Incarna.
Firstly, aurum would cease being created in the EVE universe a month ahed of time with a warning this would be happening a few months ahed of time to allow people to prepare for it. CCP would 'buy back' aurum at a ratio equal to portions of the cost of a plex for a certain amount of aurum so as to allow people with odd amounts of aur to fully exchange their amounts to usable ISK or entire PLEXes depending on how much aur they had aquired.
Secondly, BPOs for all fashion items save for the quafe tshirt and other collectors edition items would be seeded on the market in stations in regions where each of the design houses are located - caldari clothing in caldari space, gallente clothing in gallente space, amarrian clothing in amarr and minmatar clothing in minmatar space. Just like ship designs.
Thirdly, any ship designs destined for the NEX store would be seeded as BPCs in various LP stores - the bpcs requiring tech 1 versions of their base ship along with other minerals or items from PI in the manufacturing process. pirate ship skins in their respective pirate lp stores, navy skins in their respective navy lp stores, specific ship designer skins in their respective LP stores. Adding ship skins to LP stores for pirate variations would give people more incentive to mission for pirate factions in nullsec, and hopefully encourage people to move to NPC nullsec or lowsec.
This would signifigantly enhance the meaning of choice for who you ran missions for, and would encourage trading of these items alongside already established markets. It would also allow for more options for people to use to diversify their income in different ways.
The clothing BPs could/would require PI materials (polytextiles, etc) and recieve the same benefits for being researched at starbases/stations for effiency, with the potential to recieve BPCs for different variations of the same item (read: the shirts, coats and other such items) during the researching process. |
Rina Asanari
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.01 07:33:00 -
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Nice sentiment.
But do you really think CCP would give up on this business model, since the 'against NeX' front seems to be slowly crumbling?
Note that the protests weren't against the NeX store as a whole, but the concept of 'pay to win' items opposed to 'just vanity'.
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HELLBOUNDMAN
Brothers Through Rebellious Actions
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Posted - 2011.12.01 07:41:00 -
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I really don't care what they do with the NeX store or Aurum for that matter. Hell, I don't even care what they do with the items.
However, I would very much like CCP to allow me to exchange the Aurum they gave me for more isk since I have absolutely no plans on using it....
Unless I will eventually be able to chrome out my golem......That would be tight....But i could really care less about clothing for a character I only see when I'm in CQ, which I never do because I prefer ship spinning. |
Ninevite
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.12.01 07:42:00 -
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There is nothing really that wrong with the Nex store if people want to pay money to make their in-game persona more unique. All that will do is give more money to CCP so they can make this game better for you |
Ninevite
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.12.01 07:42:00 -
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doubled posted my post... |
Nestara Aldent
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.12.01 07:46:00 -
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While I can say aur is redundant because plex, and hence aur itself can be bought with isk, I don't think anything can persuade CCP to close down Nex store.
Bigwigs in CCP just fancy that RMT system, it's in, other games like LOTRO are using it, and now they can say Eve is going along with the times and newest and greatest.
Even though Eve had RMT long before most, with plex. That's a typical management bull, however, if they keep it to vanity items no real harm will be done. It's just confusing to have another currency in the game, they could've made it simpler for us to buy stuff with plex directly, or with isk. |
HELLBOUNDMAN
Brothers Through Rebellious Actions
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Posted - 2011.12.01 07:47:00 -
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Ninevite wrote:There is nothing really that wrong with the Nex store if people want to pay money to make their in-game persona more unique. All that will do is give more money to CCP so they can make this game better for you
Or so they can pay someone to design more crappy Nex items that no one cares about.....
Oh, and 10 or so highly overpriced items that don't even fall in line with what Eve is until we're able to walk in stations isn't exactly making your persona unique.
There's probably a good 500 people in Eve, if not more, that have the same damn monicle you have....
Personally, I feel if you're buying a plex to get a Nex Item then you're completely missing the point of what Eve is about and (no offense) are a tool.
Every time I see someone with a Nex item I wanna slap the crap out of them.... |
Ninevite
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.12.01 08:23:00 -
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HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Personally, I feel if you're buying a plex to get a Nex Item then you're completely missing the point of what Eve is about and (no offense) are a tool.
Every time I see someone with a Nex item I wanna slap the crap out of them....
This is exactly why I got a monocle. To troll morons like you.
You're not the only person who plays this game. There are roleplayers, people who focus more on industry and pimping out their character, etc. Some people actually WANT the customizations *gasp!*
Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it's a bad idea.
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Myxx
Atropos Group
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Posted - 2011.12.01 19:52:00 -
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hey bump because CCP are apparently still considering convinence microtransactions
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=37029 |
Ninevite
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.12.01 19:57:00 -
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Depends what the convenience is IMO. If it's paying a couple of bucks to be able to jump clone more than once per 24 hours, I would not have a problem with it. Additionally, you can just use Plex to get aurum and access to Nex store items, you don't necessarily have to pay $.
I'm not going to lie, the game is cooler without the idea of Nex or MT. At the same time though, I realize the more money CCP has the better this game could be. It's part of the gaming industry now. Nex isn't a completely bad thing, it just is dependent on how it's executed. |
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Captain Evenwel
StoneCutterz Shotgun Weddings
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:47:00 -
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Personally it would be great if players could actually take part in the microtransactions...if we could actually design and create that which is being sold. Tatoos, clothing, company logos, character shtuff, whatever fits. They need to actually have the players apart of it. Yeah, it's MT, but so is Dust and that's why they did it: To playtest the idea on Eve.
Yeah, it didn't go well, but I'd love to see people actually designing the character gear throughout the galaxy. Ha ha he, completes the "Eve: Business Simulator" to a T |
Rina Asanari
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.02 07:36:00 -
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Ninevite wrote:Depends what the convenience is IMO. If it's paying a couple of bucks to be able to jump clone more than once per 24 hours, I would not have a problem with it. Additionally, you can just use Plex to get aurum and access to Nex store items, you don't necessarily have to pay $. I'm not going to lie, the game is cooler without the idea of Nex or MT. At the same time though, I realize the more money CCP has the better this game could be. It's part of the gaming industry now. Nex isn't a completely bad thing, it just is dependent on how it's executed.
And even something looking as harmless as "being able to jump more than once every 24 hours" isn't. Sure you can self-destruct and wake up in a brand new clone at your target station, but there is a difference between jumping into a fully imped clone or starting out in a new one. Quick wardec mobilization comes to my mind as a first example.
So... conveniences inevitably become necessities to keep your edge compared to others. And that's surely a direction many people don't want to see, judging from the forum posts.
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