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Kaelynne Rose
WTB Somalians
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Posted - 2015.01.25 04:49:33 -
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Cancel Align NOW wrote:Irrevocable licenses with no associated royalties seem like a suitable solution. Have CCP said anywhere why they are not going down that path?
Cuz they want ownersips of them. If goons sell their Bees in shirts, they wanna piece of the pie.
They said 1 year ago that all submissions became their ownership and their property. As soon as players said No Way! Did all this BS technical lawyer LMAO AT CSM STEVE "techinical GRAPHIC" issues come in to existance. They just made all this crap up after getting caught with they hand in cookie jar.
It dont take no year to fix this and it aint graphics issue Steve lmao ru ******* joking dude? You know elections are soon right? Ru seriously gonna act like that? |
Kaldi Tsukaya
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
42
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Posted - 2015.01.25 18:37:33 -
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Anyone who doesn't see the issues with legal use of trademarks should look at Disney for examples. They ruthlessly pursue any and all infringements on their copyrights. Doesn't matter if you are Mom&Pop, or Ebay.
CCP is doing what their LEGAL department is telling them to do. Deal with it. |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
501
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Posted - 2015.01.25 18:56:21 -
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You clearly don't understand the discussion if you can't tell the difference between trademarks and copyrights, and if you think this is CCP's copyright that's at stake. It isn't.
Kaldi Tsukaya wrote:CCP is doing what their LEGAL department is telling them to do. Deal with it. Except their legal department is wrong.
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
233
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Posted - 2015.01.25 19:34:28 -
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I read a much as I needed to to pass judgement here.
If you want a personalised logo, in a ******* game, then yes you should give up the IP rights to it. If you don't wish to SHARE it, then how can you expect someone else to distribute it you ******* idiots?
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
3658
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Posted - 2015.01.25 19:39:47 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:I read a much as I needed to to pass judgement here.
If you want a personalised logo, in a ******* game, then yes you should give up the IP rights to it. If you don't wish to SHARE it, then how can you expect someone else to distribute it you ******* idiots? Wow you're a genius.
Make space glamorous!
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
501
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Posted - 2015.01.25 19:40:23 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:I read a much as I needed to to pass judgement here.
If you want a personalised logo, in a ******* game, then yes you should give up the IP rights to it. If you don't wish to SHARE it, then how can you expect someone else to distribute it you ******* idiots? If you're going to call people idiots, you should avoid spewing a ton of misinformed bile everywhere. In short, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and should leave the discussion to the grownups.
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
233
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Posted - 2015.01.25 19:46:49 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Moonlit Raid wrote:I read a much as I needed to to pass judgement here.
If you want a personalised logo, in a ******* game, then yes you should give up the IP rights to it. If you don't wish to SHARE it, then how can you expect someone else to distribute it you ******* idiots? If you're going to call people idiots, you should avoid spewing a ton of misinformed bile everywhere. In short, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and should leave the discussion to the grownups. Why? Because you're bothered about a logo in a game? If you want one, accept their conditions, if you don't then don't have one! Are you really that bothered? Is this non-issue pivotal to the longevity and affirmation of your life? I doubt it. So: - Buck up Shut up Grow up
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
502
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Posted - 2015.01.25 19:48:44 -
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Right, because we're only allowed to care about things that are "pivotal to the longevity and affirmation" of our lives. Black and white thinking is so productive, right?
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
233
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Posted - 2015.01.25 19:55:05 -
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No, but going about legal action over something this trivial is childish.
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
502
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Posted - 2015.01.25 19:57:29 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:No, but going about legal action over something this trivial is childish. It's a good thing nobody mentioned anything like that then, isn't it? You have a reading comprehension problem. Fix it.
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
3658
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:04:49 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:No, but going about legal action over something this trivial is childish. Tell that to CCP's lawyers
Make space glamorous!
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
503
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:07:54 -
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Isn't it wonderful that CCP can just make blanket grabs at people's intellectual property and they get shills for them saying "nurrr complaining about that is childish, nurrrrr your IP could feed starving kids in Reykjavik."
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
233
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:08:05 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Moonlit Raid wrote:No, but going about legal action over something this trivial is childish. It's a good thing nobody mentioned anything like that then, isn't it? You have a reading comprehension problem. Fix it. I meant on either side, and your signature doesn't quite match the contents, you say they think you have no rights to your logo, yet through the link they appear to believe you should have the right to sell it? So much so "[they've] also drafted a license to allow free usage of alliance logos." Sort your own reading issues out before you pick on mine.
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
503
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:14:30 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:Moonlit Raid wrote:No, but going about legal action over something this trivial is childish. It's a good thing nobody mentioned anything like that then, isn't it? You have a reading comprehension problem. Fix it. I meant on either side, and your signature doesn't quite match the contents, you say they think you have no rights to your logo, yet through the link they appear to believe you should have the right to sell it? So much so "[they've] also drafted a license to allow free usage of alliance logos." Sort your own reading issues out before you pick on mine. You're just digging yourself a deeper hole there. A license to allow free usage isn't a right, it's a privilege granted by the owner. The only one with rights to IP is the owner of said IP, and CCP wants all ownership transferred to them. Or they did, until people raised hell about it, but now they want to try this watermark idiocy which degrades the quality of logos, is unnecessary, and is overly complicated.
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
233
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:16:16 -
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Ok, and upon uploading this was the contract in force no?
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
503
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:16:38 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:Ok, and upon uploading this was the contract in force no? No.
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
63
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:20:22 -
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Okay SoSeriously this is Anti Piracy CCP Should Join SOPA(Stop Online Piracy act) And PIPA(Protect IP Act)Look what happen when Godaddy Supported this (sustained significant losses, losing over 72,000 domains in less than one week, as a result of a proposed boycott of their services, pending it renounce its support of SOPA.)
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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
233
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:25:48 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Moonlit Raid wrote:Ok, and upon uploading this was the contract in force no? No. Right, so ask CCP to remove any alliance logos from the game then.
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
503
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:28:15 -
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Yeah let's just nuke the whole thing, that's a sensible solution.
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
233
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:36:37 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Yeah let's just nuke the whole thing, that's a sensible solution. Well if you don't want to agree to their terms, then, um, don't.
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
64
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:38:07 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Yeah let's just nuke the whole thing, that's a sensible solution. No we must fight This!Its alot Bigger than CCP Alliance Logos. We Must Protest And change The Laws. CCP is only Following what there Lawyers are telling them to do To Protect there Intrests. I mean If I was On There side of the fence I would undertstand however we are Not. so we are on the short end of the stick
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Mag's
the united
18828
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Posted - 2015.01.25 21:33:45 -
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Why is this being made so complicated?
**Destination SkillQueue:- **
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3741
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Posted - 2015.01.25 21:36:27 -
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Thread temporarily locked for some cleaning.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Mag's
the united
18828
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Posted - 2015.01.25 21:37:15 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:Thread temporarily locked for some cleaning. Is it?
**Destination SkillQueue:- **
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3741
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Posted - 2015.01.25 21:42:33 -
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Mag's wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:Thread temporarily locked for some cleaning. Is it? Eh...
Now it is!
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3743
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Posted - 2015.01.25 21:51:12 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
8. Use of profanity is prohibited.
The use of profanity is prohibited on the EVE Online forums. This includes the partial masking of letters using numbers or alternate symbols, and any attempts at bypassing the profanity filter.
27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster.
Thread reopened (Yes, really!)
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
65
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Posted - 2015.01.25 22:19:19 -
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Ok If I Copyrigh a Name and use it as a In game Corp at Eve Online. and wanted to use that Logo for sponsorship and advertising would I be able to use it?Would I have to tranfer ownership to CCP? It seems I cant according to the EULA.If Not Can it Be Ammended Yes . So How can we Proceed By doing That?
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Kaldi Tsukaya
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
42
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Posted - 2015.01.25 23:09:58 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:Ok If I Copyrigh a Name and use it as a In game Corp at Eve Online. and wanted to use that Logo for sponsorship and advertising would I be able to use it?Would I have to tranfer ownership to CCP? It seems I cant according to the EULA.If Not Can it Be Ammended Yes . So How can we Proceed By doing That?
A name cannot be copyrighted. That would be registering a trademark. |
Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
65
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Posted - 2015.01.25 23:37:49 -
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Kaldi Tsukaya wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:Ok If I Copyrigh a Name and use it as a In game Corp at Eve Online. and wanted to use that Logo for sponsorship and advertising would I be able to use it?Would I have to tranfer ownership to CCP? It seems I cant according to the EULA.If Not Can it Be Ammended Yes . So How can we Proceed By doing That? A name cannot be copyrighted. That would be registering a trademark. Ok so I register a Trademark a Name and use it as a In game Corp at Eve Online. and wanted to use that Logo for sponsorship and advertising would I be able to use it?Would I have to transfer ownership to CCP? It seems I cant according to the EULA.If Not Can it Be Ammended Yes . So How can we Proceed By doing That?
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Dradis Aulmais
By Light and Banner's Fallen
662
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Posted - 2015.01.26 00:56:17 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Here I was thinking we elected CSM representatives, not a bunch of yes-men. Watermarks are stupid. They're going to look stupid. Furthermore they're completely unnecessary.
CCP does not need ownership of the alliance logos in the game. All they need is an irrevocable, unconditional license to use. That's what we've been telling them from the very beginning, and it's something they've completely ignored.
If you actually cared, Steve, you or ANYONE ELSE in attendance would have mentioned this license to use, but nobody did. I'm completely underwhelmed by your handling of this situation.
So the holdup is not technical. Again, instead of regurgitating what they told you, dig a little bit deeper. The holdup is organizational culture and nothing more. This can be resolved now without any changes to the game code.
No matter what happens you will not be happy. Get over it. This is the way CCP wants to run it, don't like it do sub your account. Vote with your money cuz your mouth ain't doing the job.
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