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Alhambra Rainwalker
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Posted - 2006.09.23 10:32:00 -
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Edited by: Alhambra Rainwalker on 23/09/2006 10:32:27
/signed
Lots of lag in fairly sparsely populated 0.0 region, queue to log in systems with few or even no players, PVP is no-go, NPC:ing is extremely risky at best.
Cancelled, I'll be monitoring the situation from now on (sub expires early 07). I really like the game (it does have lots of flaws and whatnot but it's still rather unique), but why pay if you can't play?
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Spike Spegel
Minmatar
Infinite Improbability Inc
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.23 11:03:00 -
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Not to mention impossibilty to log in into empty 0.0 system...
Spike out
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Cuckoo
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Posted - 2006.09.23 11:28:00 -
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yeah.. it has been rediculous as of late.. pvp has become stupid, as the most enjoyable thing for everyone in the game is now crap..
sorry state of affairs atm :(
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Losiphat
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Posted - 2006.09.23 21:06:00 -
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I agree with the original poster that the most recent patches have significantly reduced the quality of the gaming experience. It would be nice to see CCP step up and admit what issues are known issues and perhaps have some sort of a path to dealing with this game play issues as they have become extreme in many cases.
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Myonosken
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Posted - 2006.09.23 21:54:00 -
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I haven't ever posted here, but this made me have to post.
I'm not experiencing ANY lag at all, and haven't for the past week. Its weird that you are all getting it.
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Extregar Qvint
Caldari
JuBa Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.24 11:29:00 -
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In all fairness i must say the situation for me has become much better over the last week or two. For me the problems began about a month ago with the dragon patch, but it was a while since a node dropped/i experienced stupid lag, where i live at least. (Scalding pass)
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.09.24 12:00:00 -
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To be fair, post-DT yesterday (Sat 23 Sep) Eve was fine. Me and 2 others from Corp did 2 lvl 4 (Gur X) in Aramachi area together with no problems. My FPS dropped a great deal in the heat of the battle when all of us had drones out, but I suspect that was on my client side as I run 2 accounts with eve.pref set to 512, and only 1GB Ram. Bit of file swapping going on methinks.
So maybe a hotfix yesterday did something?
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Ker Essentiel
Amarr
FRENCH NAVY
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.24 19:02:00 -
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Sorry CCP gentlemen, but your nice game is becoming unplayable...
The dragon patch was supposed to improve the game, in fact things get worse and worse day after day.
Today (2006-09-24 ) I reach the point where I think to stop playing EVE and looking to other games.
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Gozmoth
Altera Odyssea
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.24 19:15:00 -
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/signed
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Phoenix Lonestar
Litanies of Hate
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Posted - 2006.09.24 20:04:00 -
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Last night in Aramachi I was experiencing frequent disconnects, but the lag seemed markedly improved. When I intially signed on, it was laggy, but it got better almost immediately after I posted in the forums that Aramachi was still jacked. Coincidence, probably.
However, today with 600 people in Jita and 27k users logged on, Jita was damned laggy... and before the fanboys say "So what? What do you expect? There's a bunch of people logged on." Before Dragon, 700 in Jita with no lag wasn't a problem. After Dragon, it becomes laggerific. There's a connection that CCP doesn't want to admit to.
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TheBigZero
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Posted - 2006.09.24 22:03:00 -
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I'm still on the 14-day trial looking to see if I will want to move on to a monthly subscription and I have to say the only thing keeping me from skipping the free-trial and paying now is the lagging while playing.
It's not completely unplayable, but it's enough to be annoying in-game.
My PC:
Intel 3.0GHz P4 w/HT
ATI X800XT PCI-e 256MB
1.5GB PC3200 RAM
160GB hard drive
Comcast 6Mbps cable Internet
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Kitara Majere
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Posted - 2006.09.24 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: Kitara Majere on 24/09/2006 23:25:57
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Phoenixhawk
Caldari
Farscape Mining
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Posted - 2006.09.24 23:26:00 -
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Ditto and Signed to all said. I dont have the fastest machine out there but its not bad either. I've Been playing since 04' and have multiple accounts. and since dragon. Eve is unplayable, point blank end of story. But what else is new? after every motherloving patch its the same old story, being a veteran of many patchs (coming out of cold war seemed the downfall of eve's patches) but after every patch, it just took a matter of time for the Dev's to get it in gear tweak things and get them running right and eve went back to playable again, if not quite its old speed. So with my exp in all eve's patchs I say to myself time to park the ships, set a long skill in training, and wait out the storm, time has gone by, multiple skills have been trained, and to be honest, its still not playable. My low-sec corridor is currently looking at 10/30 second module activations, with all of 5 people in local, nearby mission running space is even worse, and thats if you make the que to get into the system.
Mission times need increased to simply makeup for the ungodly travel times if you can even travel, what about Jita you ask? I've always avoided Jita like the plage, and Yuli before jita was the center of the world.... I've waited, i've come back, i've tryed playing, and i've seen its still unplayable, and docked and waited and cameback again to the same thing, and left and came back, and so on.....point is
I love this game, After all the time, money, blood sweat, and tears invested into building up to do what i want, i dont plan on leaving, yea 15 a month means loosing a day doesnt mean a big investment, but when you start to look at loosing months with multiple accounts, it really starts to hit ya.
CCP needs to stand up and be accounted for.
The problems need fixed, if they cant do that, then they need to accept it and shard the system. because they have pretty much hit the wall and nothing seems to be pulling it back. I was all for breaking that 5k,8k,10k barrier, I remember when seeing more than 10 in local was crowed, I've Dreaded the 20k25k30k's I've been there I've done that, but its looks like CCP has hit the limit, and cant throw money at the problem to fix it. They said our drones was the
we went from 15 to 5 and the lag got worse, Then it was bookmarks, then it was...etc..etc..etc
Eve just seems to be at the tech limit and every thing they do simply seems to worsen it.
I've always been agaist sharding it, but its looking like eve it getting to be out of options, sharding sucks, theres nothing worse than making a char playing around and then finding out all your friends are on another server. the server then gets to the almost unplayable limit, and it gets caped off, and a new one gets setup and your stuck on the jampacked full one, after your time as been spent on that one.
new people will come, old ones will leave, and eve will still be eve, Fleet engagments are dead, you get 10 ships together and the node goes down. to end a long rant simply Something Must be done otherwise the game is slowly dying....
my system btw
P4 3.4HT
BFG 7800GT over-clocked
2 gig's of Ram
Dual Raptor HDD's
and a 6.0Mbps Internet connection
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Stay Chilly & Watch Your Six!
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Peeved
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Posted - 2006.09.25 00:38:00 -
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Hello All,
I signed up on Friday for a trial account after a friend of a friend had nothing but good things to say. Friday eve I play through the tutorial and start to notice this regular hicup where things would freeze. Saturday morning things seem smoother, but again as the day goes on thing get worse until by the afternoon I would say its unplable. Here I am Sunday, and I'm wondeing if this is just how the game plays.
Now I have a rather highend maching w/ a ton of ram, as I play MMorpg's often, and this is the worst I have ever been hit by LAG, except in the early days of WOW, and IF but the 2g ram upgrade helped that a great deal.
I have to say that I'm dissapointed if this is normal, because the game was starting to pull me in. I will keep an eye out to see if the lag gets resolved, and hope to join you all at another time =)
~Good Luck, Peeved
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Krisz2
Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.09.25 03:10:00 -
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Eve is becoming unplayable to me aswell. Alot of CTDs twice which have led to me losing a vagabond. Not really fun to sit in station =/
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JFxSummoner
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Posted - 2006.09.25 03:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Dark Motoko
Edited by: Dark Motoko on 09/09/2006 16:09:27
Ok, while I'm sure at the moment the CCP team is sitting back and thinking, 'Hooray, the server is currently up and working properly', some of us are getting serious reason to differ. I just felt I had to write about what just happened to me, since I haven't seen nearly enough complaints on this in the forum compared to what I see and hear from people in-game.
I just tried an L4 Pirate Invasion; I warp over, trigger the gate. My hardeners take 4-5 seconds to activate, but that isn't so bad. 
Ok, so I start destroying the first group that auto-aggros me. My launchers take 5-10 seconds to activate; not brilliant, but bearable. A few cruisers go down.
The auto-aggro group sends a few frigates, so I release my medium drones and send them after one. Four or five minutes later, and after repeating the command a fair few times, my drones are still not bothering to target the specific frigate I selected, but are picking their own. Handy that.
Inevitably, I then need to shield boost, so I hit the module. After about 10 seconds it activates, and then shuts down immediately once orders. That would be alright, but within the space of 3 or 4 activations, it then takes 20 seconds or more to activate. Bit worrying, right? 
My thoughts at this point are, 'to hell with this', so I order my ship to align to a beacon in preparation for my warping out. My drones are a lost cause - they still haven't attacked that frigate target, and now certainly won't return to me. I order a warp when aligned properly and wait.
Over 30-40 seconds pass before my ship actually goes to warp.
Pretty good thing I decided to warp early before my ship actually needed to get out of there.
Now...where am I? Some system with hundreds of players in local? Jita? Rens?
No, I was in Aramachi, with about 55-60 players in local at the time. There were about 21000 online at the time server-wide.
Aha, I hear CCP say,'You must have a slow connection or low specification pc'.
Aha, I say - I use high speed broadband and a pc which far outstrips the system requirements of eve, plus I was running nothing else apart from eve, and no other computer was using my conn. via a network etc.
This is not some isolated incident, but has been happening to myself, and others I know for weeks.
It's getting steadily worse as CCP introduce each new patch.
Please CCP, try and tell me that this is down to me, and not a serious problem server side.
Now, I like eve - I have a good corp and friends on eve, but try to tell me that you're giving me a service worthy of what I've paid for my subscription.
Stop boasting about your 30000 players online a one time, and start trying to improve the quality of gameplay of those subscribers that you have rather than trying to get more or people will begin to stop playing. In plenty of places, the lag was ridiculous on the night of the 30k players, and eve was only really playable once it had dropped down below 25k from my point of view.
Anyhow, rant over. 
Pick holes as you wish.
Signed and agree 100% ..... you should have tried doin the L4 i did in ibura the other day with 8 peeps in system took me over 20secs to activate modules let alone warp to the gate after the mission was over, truely a sad state of affairs for EVE.
and to those that say spread out to less congested systems/nodes come on guys that is so far beside the point
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Tar Ancalimon
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Posted - 2006.09.25 03:12:00 -
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I was pretty fed up about two weeks ago and posted in one of the earlier pages. I was thinking I was going to have to quit since I was paying for a service that sucked. But in my dertimination I decided that maybe I could find something that would make it playable again. I went to the "Boost your FPS" thread and started working on every little thing I could find in there one at a time. Every little bit helped as I noticed I was getting a few more frames here and there. Finally I got great results with changing the V-sinc settings. I'm getting a solid 30 frames per second now and am relieved that I can at least play again. IT's not great but, it will get me through until they solve the issues. If your fed up like I was. Try doing whatever you can on your end, i'm sure CCP is working on it. Flame away!!
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Womble God
Gallente
Compression Space Transport
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Posted - 2006.09.25 13:46:00 -
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/Signed.
I live in Isenairos and generally run missions in either that system, Aramachi and Uotila. Everywhere else I go, with the obvious exception of Jita, I suffer from virtually no lag whatsoever. Yet in a system with a maximum of 60 people in it I am lagging so much that it can take upto 2 minutes (sadly im not kidding) to activate modules or to warp out.
The lag in these and a few surrounding systems is getting beyond a point that is bearable or forgivable, so I have two questions. First, are Aramachi/Uotila on the same node as Jita? Second, if so is there anyway of compensating for the extra load that Jita puts on this node maybe by shifting these level 4 agents to a system that ISNT on the same node?
I love this game dearly CCP and this lag wont stop me playing, but it would be nice if some of these things could be sorted out. 
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BOSSMAN69
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.25 18:45:00 -
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Come on guys, read the news when you log in. Its been a great week and everybody's happy.
Victories are only possible if there is combat
Combat is only possible if there is WAR
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Amox
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.09.25 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Amox on 25/09/2006 20:47:50
Originally by: BOSSMAN69
Come on guys, read the news when you log in. Its been a great week and everybody's happy.
lol like that sig by the way.
Na they just cleared a large chunk of the que out. They never fixed the problem.
The problem is far more reaching than these threads lead us to believe. 7500 petitions! Thats a lot of freaking petitions.
CCP must know that the srever is screwed up, just how bad only they know.
The problems still there though.
What really gets me though is I have to disable sound and cut the graphics to to minimum for the game to even run. It was never like this before. So as it stands I am paying to kinda play a fubared game with half its features turned off, disable all other programs on my computer so I can log on and get booted 20 minutes later.
Yea sounds real fun don't it.
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Dayglow
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Posted - 2006.09.25 23:48:00 -
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I don't even get to be logged in long enough to really experience lag. As soon as I undock everything goes unresponsive and then server reset error. Oddly enough if I stay in station things are usually fine for a while. I love playing Eve and have since I started, but I've been unable to play at all for over a month now. I continue to pay in hopes of things getting better, but patience is wearing thin.
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ericAmerica
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Posted - 2006.09.26 03:05:00 -
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Well I lost a battleship today .......... Pretty easy kill when it takes me a full minute to appear on the other side of a stargate. This is getting absurd. This issue needs to be addressed. I don't know of any business where this kind of performance would be tolerated. I hate to vent on the forums like this but i am just fed up. |
Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2006.09.26 06:16:00 -
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Well, I'm back after about a week, and am not seeing much improvement. Can't say I am surprised. I love the blogs where they say they say they are "working on it" and "everything is getting better." Well, maybe it is for some, maybe not. Who can tell with the outright deceptions the devs use? The only "real" thing I have to go off of is the continued HEAVY interest and posting in this thread. Going off of that, I would say things have not much improved at all. The most important thing that has NEVER been addressed in YEARS of patches going to the dogs is: What is going to be done to make sure the paying customers don't have to go through this mess EVERY TIME there is a patch? I guess the reason they never address this question is because the answer is: NOTHING. EVERY patch, over the YEARS, has introduced MAJOR issues, for one portion of the player base or another, without exception. This is proof, beyond any other, that customer satisfaction is a very LOW priority at CCP. I can only hope that they wake up and smell the coffee on the subject before they crash and burn the game.
As an update to my previous posts, of the 30+ subscribers I played with on nearly a daily basis, including myself, there are only 5 left. The rest have terminated their accounts and left for good. So much for a timely response to the needs of its customers from CCP I guess.
I also love the latest blog with the teasers in it about what is coming in Kali. If that wasn't an OBVIOUS pitch to try and get people to stay based on more of the devs empty promises I don't know what is. I laughed so hard at the OBVIOUS nature of that one that I nearly fell out of my chair.
If I can say ANYTHING positive its that I have not been getting dumped by the server AS OFTEN today. But, the lag is still BEYOND unbearable. So, it doesn't help if you can stay connected to the server longer to still accomplish NOTHING because of the lag.....  So, I guess despite all of their "talk" in the blogs, they STILL have not done anything to significantly reduce the suffering of the paying customers more than THREE WEEKS after these problems started showing up in massive amounts. Sad CCP. Really sad.
I lost my faith in CCP and the devs a long time ago. With Dragon I am starting to loose my HOPE that they ever will get the patch process right. Without faith, and without hope, whats the point? I will continue to post to bump this as long as I am still a subscriber.... which may not be much longer at this rate.
To the rest of the community, keep them coming! As long as this thread stays alive we have a dim flicker of hope that CCP hears about our suffering and MAY eventually DO something about it.....
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CyberGh0st
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Posted - 2006.09.26 08:56:00 -
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Edited by: CyberGh0st on 26/09/2006 08:56:46
Hey all,
This is my 1st post here, only playing the game for 3 days now.
I just wanted to add that for me, the game is running ok.
I had 2 disconnects yesterday but could logon again right away.
Sunday I had some lag when in combat and trying to activate some modules, but just a few seconds.
But overall nothing really game breaking.
I believe there are around 150 players in the place where I hang around.
So I guess I started to play the game at the right time, when things are improving.
Anyway, compared to WoW there is no problem here with lag and server stability. WoW is in another league of server problems.
Greetings,
CyberGh0st.
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Amox
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.09.26 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Amox on 26/09/2006 13:34:06
Originally by: CyberGh0st
Edited by: CyberGh0st on 26/09/2006 08:56:46
Hey all,
This is my 1st post here, only playing the game for 3 days now.
I just wanted to add that for me, the game is running ok.
I had 2 disconnects yesterday but could logon again right away.
Sunday I had some lag when in combat and trying to activate some modules, but just a few seconds.
But overall nothing really game breaking.
I believe there are around 150 players in the place where I hang around.
So I guess I started to play the game at the right time, when things are improving.
Anyway, compared to WoW there is no problem here with lag and server stability. WoW is in another league of server problems.
Greetings,
CyberGh0st.
LOL just the opposite for me I play WoW as well, I am in a raiding guild, 40 man raids, and none of us have any connection issues. Lag every once and a while peaks here and there but nothing game stopping.
Eve used to be this way back in the day when it was rare to see more than 2000 players on. Ran smooth as silk then. If I start eve client up and see more than 15,000 in I don't even bother logging in. ItFs not worth my time and aggravation.
The difference between WoW and EVE, the lag is game stopping.
In WoW you get a small repair bill. In EVE you can be set back weeks in time and effort, the loss of a ship can be game stopping for some.
Thats a huge price to pay for CCP to get their little records.
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BOSSMAN69
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.26 15:06:00 -
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It would be nice if we just got a comment from the dev's saying we know about the problem and are dealing with it.
Victories are only possible if there is combat
Combat is only possible if there is WAR
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RtoZ
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Posted - 2006.09.26 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: RtoZ on 26/09/2006 15:11:58
I've been playing eve for 6 months. Before Dragon I have had occasional issues, but the vast majority of time the game was playable, despite allways having been in busy systems with 100+ people and making frequent trips to the Jita market hub in 4-4.
After the patch it's been a catastrophe. The server just cannot handle the traffic. I can't do missions as often as I want to because it simply can't handle peak traffic. And no, I will not give all my nights to EVE just to get low lag. I've lost two bs's because of lag issue, where the game stop responding on my side yet the hitpoints keep adding on the server side. Sure, the petitions gave me my stuff back, well most of it. After weeks of waiting. What about Agent standing? You have to cancel the mission to safely get back you're surviving fittings from the can so you're you're likely to take a huge standing hit. What about income? As you have to invest in another mission running ship and most likely waste yet another day just to get that running. That is, if you are fortunate enough to be able to afford it.
Eve is unplayable atm, you simply cannot play the game the way it is designed. Progress in EVE is designed to be slow. Add the patch and it simple stops. Had it not have been the patch I would allready have my faction Battleship, I put in the hours. But the game has slowed my progress to a crawl. More times than I would like I have to resort to ctrl-q just to avoid the whole hassle of petitions and ship loss. Then I go through the stupid process of rebooting, getting thrown back in the middle of a mission and having to warp out before I get targeted and the game gets stuck again.
But today it really took the cake. I start Guristas extravaganza, target up a nice line of hostiles, turn on the launchers and the ship just targets random units. WTF? Now the game plays itself? I can't target?! I have to watch as my ship spreads missiles all over the place and I get agroed by all the spawns and of course, have to jump out. This is incredible...
I expect EVE will be patched to funcionality over the coming weeks, but we are nowhere near that yet, so don't get too happy CCP. I am not. I spend 6 months building a character that basically is only good for running PVE missions, yes, your skill system forces specialization, have you not noticed?, and now the bugs in the system put me up **** creek without a paddle. Is it my fault I am playing in the caldari systems? Do you expect me to walk away from 400k LP because your server cannot handle system traffic? Not to mention all the other quirky bugs that screw me over on what seems like a weekly basis. And a petition wait of 2 weeks... I can only imagine how much pretend money this patch has cost me. I fully expect a market crash if every mission runner is having the problems I am.
I'll end my rant with a request: If you cannot get the further patches at a much higher level of stability than this one, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not deploy them. Spend the time fixing what we allready have. I do not care about new ships or skills or stations if I cannot get out of the quagmire you have thrown me into long enough to make the isk to pay for them. And I'm sure everyone here, if they think about it, will agree with me.
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ericAmerica
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Posted - 2006.09.26 19:57:00 -
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Emergency patch tomorrow.. Lets cross our fingers...... |
Phoenix Lonestar
Litanies of Hate
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Posted - 2006.09.26 20:11:00 -
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RtoZ.... faction battlesheep = ~650k LP.... you're still short.
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Timura
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Posted - 2006.09.26 22:23:00 -
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Edited by: Timura on 26/09/2006 22:23:48
Originally by: RtoZ
I have to watch as my ship spreads missiles all over the place and I get agroed by all the spawns and of course, have to jump out. This is incredible...
That IS incredible, that you could actually warp. Instead of waiting till 25% Shields to hit my Booster, i'll just wait till 50% before i Quit out, It'll probably boost my survival. I've already lost one ship to this crap, LUCKILY it wasn't my main PVE ship, But as this has been going on for so long i have absolutly no funds.....So had it been my main ship, i would have been boned.
It's too bad really, i loved this game. CCP, say hi to the E&B guys when you get to the bottom of the drain. 
EDIT: WOOHOO, 13 Pages of Angry CUSTOMERS and not one word from CCP.
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