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ShadowandLight
DeathWatch Milita Soviet-Union
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:53:23 -
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Dear CCP, Multiboxing is a huge challenge and time investment, taken on by those who live your game. Don't hurt the dedicated players who have poured countless hours into EVE by banning multiboxing.
Edit: a clarification for those trying to walk the line between multiboxing and input duplication. -áI realize ccp is banning input duplication, -ábut I think that the other capabilities of isboxer and similar software, -áas soon as the mob gets worked up over it, -áwill ensure that owning 2 accounts is "unfair". -áThe main purpose of isboxer is input duplication, -áallowing you to control multiple accounts as if one person. -áRemoving that feature is a huge blow and on the path to a complete removal of management of alts with any efficiency.
1st let me say that I have multiboxed in EVE for as long as I can remember, probably it's one of the main reasons I've stayed interested in the same game outside of the increasing diminishing larger scale PVP fights.
Please read the probably too long letter below. I love Eve and all its challenges. There are many dedicated people like myself who love the game and that's why we have multiple accounts and have spent countless hours trying to become competent in multiboxing.
To me, Multiboxing is an end game level content. I spend hours.. weeks learning about the various task I'm going to undertake (recently it's been incursions or bombing), designing and testing fits, dying in horrible fire's while adapting to try and overcome the challenge.
Unlike some, I choose to pay for my accounts with cash. Yes, all my alts I pay for with cash and have never plexed my accounts. Eve is a hobby of mine, like RC planes, model training sets, golfing or any other hobby. I've designed, built and continue to upgrade 2 very high end computers so that my multi boxing experience is smoother and faster, especially as Eve's clients get better graphics or I engage in content with more and more people.
This policy doesn't just hurt the people with dozens of miners, the guy with 50 proteus accounts in wormhole space, the multi boxing haulers or any specific niche. It hurts everyone in EVE.
If this policy is enforced to appease the vocal minority, toy hurt everyone. If you wanted an alt to help you salvage or run missions faster, if you wanted a 2nd hauler to get your minerals moved around the ever larger New Eden... The example are nearly endless.
Mineral pricing, ship and module costs, invention success all will get more expensive, hurting the already fragile industry.
Yes, I am sure to the average player seeing someone with 10 mining accounts when you can barely afford one hulk is annoying and frustrating. However that is part of the same reason that the person your being angry at starred another account and learned how to run 2 accounts at once, then learned how to afford that account. They saw someone else with "more" and instead of pounding on the desk declaring how unfair the world is, they decided to adapt and become better, faster and more efficient themselves.
You see I can't help but detect some level of "it's not fair" attitude among some here who are against multi boxing. I see a thread of complaints bordering on "if I can't do it because of x, y or z you can't do it either."
Star Citizen is an example. I'm not going to spend thousands of dollars in that game, for many reasons, but I appreciate those who do. They are paying the company for better ships and items, helping that company and in turn improving their game experience. Except like Eve and multiboxing it's a fair playing field. Anyone could start a 2nd or 10 alts, all that's stopping them is money and learning the skill to control them effectively.
I feel this policy is extremely short sited. It will cost the players a tremendous amount, it will hurt the bottom line of CCP needlessly and instead placates a group of people who will surely move on to the next pitch fork issue like how unfair of an advantage officer modules are because they can't afford them.
But all that aside, your hurting the dedicated players like myself who aim to be better and more challenged in EVE. We are all extremely dedicated and loyal players, who have stayed in EVE because we love the challenge of the game and want to be ever improving in it. We've spent way more time invested into EVE partly because of our ability to multi box, have spent an enormous amount of money on our hobby which we didn't spend with another game (even the people with only 1 or 2 mining alts or ratters are vital to your game).
The call for people to remove "input duplication" (soon multiboxing all together im sure) is a case of mob mentality from people who don't understand the benefits they are gaining from it, the effort and time people put into it or how much it has helped keep CCP afloat all these years.
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Ama Scelesta
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:56:44 -
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Multiboxing isn't banned. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:58:13 -
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Lrn2Read.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Shelby Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:00:09 -
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You should post your views in the proper thread. You'll just end up with this one closed too n' get more annoyed.
Wormhole Intern | Baby Dusette | Doesn't even
CCP Eterne: "Naked avatars for PLEX." =ƒÆï
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45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:07:05 -
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IBTL
Multiboxing is not a bannable offence.
You need to do better research before posting crap.
**You Have to take the good with the bad
and the bad with the good.
Welcome to EvE OnLiNe**
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:07:29 -
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Show us your skill but without the hacks.
No ISBoxer.
Recon makes them stronger
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Valkin Mordirc
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:09:01 -
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Reopening a locked thread is reason for a lock.
Also Iskboxer isn't banned, only the broadcast feature.
#DeleteTheWeak
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45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:09:46 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Show us your skill but without the hacks.
No ISBoxer.
Were you refering to me or the OP ?
**You Have to take the good with the bad
and the bad with the good.
Welcome to EvE OnLiNe**
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ISD LackOfFaith
isd community communications liaisons
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:20:15 -
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Quote:Forum rules13. Spamming is prohibited.Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or nonsensical post that has no substance and is often designed to annoy other forum users. This can include the words GÇ£firstGÇ¥, GÇ£go back to [insert other game name]GÇ¥ and other such posts that contribute no value to forum discussion. Spamming also includes the posting of ASCII art within a forum post, or the practice of GÇ£thread necromancyGÇ¥ which involved bumping of old threads for no justifiable reason. 17. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. 26. Re-opening locked topics is prohibited.Recreating or re-opening a thread that has been closed by a moderator is prohibited. Threads that have been closed by a moderator have been closed for the benefit of the community. Re-opening a locked thread will result in its removal.
Thread locked. Please keep your feedback to the official thread. I strongly suggest not re-posting this thread again.
ISD LackOfFaith
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Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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