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Andreus Ixiris
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Posted - 2014.12.05 19:10:59 -
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CCP Huskarl wrote:Hey pilots
I just want to give you a heads up on the issues related to the PBR (physically based rendering) conversion. I think there is no doubt that PBR gives us a much better and more realistic overall lighting in EVE. The ships feel more integrated into the scene since the reflection from the nebula has energy now and is actually lightening up the ships, the materials can look and behave very realistic as you can see with the Amarr gold for instance or the bright fresnel on some of the metals.
However there are some issues that we are fully aware of and are working hard to fix. The textures we are using were not made for PBR and it was a massive undertaking for the art team in a relatively short time to convert the textures and we will need to revisit a lot of them in the future. I-Śm aware of a lot of issues with some of the factions like for instance Sansha that was tweaked before we got the oil part of the PBR shader working properly. We plan to revisit all of them in the future and will look for feedback on the forums.
We are also looking into the "washed out" look and lack of sharpness as well as the dirt and scuffing on the ships looks very rough and flat. We have made some progress there and we will have to work out the best way to implement that as soon as possible.
07 Huskarl Well the clear solution to this problem would simply be to scrub the release of PBR in Rhea and wait until the textures have been redone for PBR.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Andreus Ixiris
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Posted - 2014.12.05 20:33:38 -
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But seriously, Darwin, this very clearly seems like a feature you should hold off releasing until the visuals under PBR are satisfactory.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Andreus Ixiris
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Posted - 2014.12.06 12:23:40 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:So please don't assume that lack of a dev post means nobody's listening. But that's what it can feel like when pretty much half the Test Server Feedback forum is telling you to drop PBR from Rhea and delay its release until work on the textures and shaders has allowed ships to reach graphical parity with their pre-PBR appearences.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Andreus Ixiris
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Posted - 2014.12.07 05:11:45 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:One major reason that comments like "I don't like PBR, please pull PBR from the release" aren't helpful: It's not going to happen. The complexity and scale of the change are far too great to roll it back in any reasonable timeframe. Then you're going to run into massive amounts of far less reasonable criticism, threats of unsubscriptions, actual unsubscriptions, anger and distrust from the community when PBR is released, people inevitably don't like it, and people inevitably discover that your testers warned you about it.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Andreus Ixiris
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Posted - 2014.12.07 18:13:09 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:I think anyone expecting a bulk inflammatory reaction from this change is just being hyperbolic. Funny, because people were saying precisely the same thing about loot spew and Captain's Quarters.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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