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Orc A
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.08.31 15:09:00 -
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Above poster is clueless.
Originally by: End Yourself
hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
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Soryn Kael
The Sanctum Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.31 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: Soryn Kael on 31/08/2006 15:28:16 After comparing the losses listed on the Ratel boards and those on the Roadkill boars, the following Ratel losses were not included. (please note I don't count shuttles and our boards make podding part of the original kill, not a separate thing like yours so I didn't include that)
2 Blackbird Taranis Apocalypse Scorpion Ferox Oneiros
Not exactly a large discrepancy over 2 weeks.
Also, if you'll bother to READ what I posted I stated that one of our allies lost a carrier and that Ratel had lost a carrier, voila! 2 carriers. So perhaps you guys should check your own intelligence apparatus and then sit down and figure out if the war is going as well as you might think it is.
From all of this I've discovered the reason that Smash has a long history of ultimately losing every single engagement they become involved in. They don't bother to pay attention to reality and they believe their own press. They're impressed by the fact that a 450 man alliance and a 340 man alliance, with the hiring of a 240 man merc alliance and a 30 man merc corp haven't been evicted by a 380 man alliance.
Oh well, when in ROME, do as the Visigoths do.
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Shadow Mancer
Warriors of God SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.31 15:24:00 -
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not only his figures are wrong, he's forgetting the fact is that they cannot use their shinny new station they just built. I mean seriously, if Ratels were so good at their fights and actually fought for their home, Smash and Roadkill would have been gone by now, but we're here to stay, right Ratel? Long Live Warriors |
Orc A
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.08.31 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: Orc A on 31/08/2006 15:31:49 wait wait wait... You are denying the carrier losses? Look, we don't care if they fly your flag or no, they were part of your fleet, they undocked from YOUR station, and they died for YOU.
Anyways.. much to learn about propoganda you still have. Maybe you should ask Bob or FiX, they can teach you :)
Originally by: End Yourself
hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
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Soryn Kael
The Sanctum Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.31 15:42:00 -
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Well, the honest question you should ask is who needs propaganda more, the Alliance that built an outpost and still controls it despite a month of enemy activity in the System, or the two alliance who more than double the size of that single alliance who have yet to even threaten the sovereignty of said system.
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zykerx
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: zykerx on 31/08/2006 16:07:53
Originally by: Soryn Kael Well, the honest question you should ask is who needs propaganda more, the Alliance that built an outpost and still controls it despite a month of enemy activity in the System, or the two alliance who more than double the size of that single alliance who have yet to even threaten the sovereignty of said system.
you may still have the station but thats about it
if we were in a hurry to get sov we would have deployed alot of posses and start attacking your posses, wich we havent yet, only a few posses at tde and 1 crazy attack on a ratel pos at tde i believe (also it must be smash to do the pos junk as they want that station, thank god hehe)
it will happen dont worry
numbers of a alliance on ccp list says nothingh btw, it doesnt state how many active members
ooh and orc he diddnt denie the loss of the carriers
wel we wil see how many friends you can gather to defend your station for you
ooh and i dunno who hired merc vs you but we diddnt, kinda pointless atm we got a 26 man merc vs us wich nobody have seen them yet, next time sent those isk to me if ya got tomuch
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Orc A
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:07:00 -
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Omg... Figured people would still have a sence of humor on eve-o. Oh well, back to my cave then.
Originally by: End Yourself
hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
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larann
Gallente Paralex Research
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Posted - 2006.08.31 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Orc A Omg... Figured people would still have a sence of humor on eve-o. Oh well, back to my cave then.
maybe its just your superb diplomatic powers arent appreciated here
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Attak
Trioptimum Storm Armada
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Posted - 2006.08.31 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Orc A Omg... Figured people would still have a sence of humor on eve-o. Oh well, back to my cave then.
There's no room for humor here! This is war! Not my war, of course... so I can be funny.
What does a 1000 kg canary say?
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.31 17:20:00 -
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I would encourage SMASH to adopt a reliable killboard.
As a Mercenary organization, it is helpful to be able to both view and point to your past performance. Even if this performance is poor, it gives you a better understanding of why and how to improve.
I say this not with any opinion on the current conflict. Just until CCP coughs up a game-controlled kill database, I encourage everyone to do their part in keeping accurate records of Eve's combat history.
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Chronus26
Gallente Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.08.31 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Graalum EDIT: I find it amazing that people still fight over a region that sucks so completely.
Geminate doesnt suck. It's my favorite region in the game. Just if y'all would stop warring in it iI could go live there and be happy forever. ----- Move along, nothign to see here... |
Kanae
Minmatar Vogon Deconstruction Fleet Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.31 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nyssa Dakalsai Wow, its not like Ratel havnt had any indirect help from EU coalition.
They popped a whole smash fleet for them and 4 roadkill dreads..
Anyway, peace is returning to IPS constellation.
LV have been sighted in Geminate supporting SMASH in mixed fleets with an EVE-U presence aswell.
Ratel, Roadkill and SMASH (all formerly friends, during the ER,SAS & Co assault on IPS) are beating each otheres heads in over a station in a system full of crokite. They'll soon be ripe for a further invasion by another party (whoever tha hell this will be)
roadkill and smash were allowed to use the outpost as all neutrals were hardly makes them friends. They used it to try to get a foothold, get mercs, and get other alliances to help them....
ER, SAS, etc were atleast open with the intent
Ratel picked an out of the way system with no one in the area and built a station invasions were expected.
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Mujun Kross
Gallente Vogon Deconstruction Fleet Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.31 18:29:00 -
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It all makes no difference...RATEL is outnumbered in a bad way. We have targets front left and center, and to the rear sticking us in the back (ROADKILL was set friendly with RATEL until they decided they did not want to be friends anymore and left the friendship shooting).
When you look up in the upper left hand corner you will see that sovereignty is still controlled by RATEL. You tried to take out a couple of our towers and you lost 4 dreads for it. SMASH was good at putting their kills on the eve-extra kill board, except for the dreads...so I took care of that for them.
You all can smach what ever crap you want to spew on these boards but until sov is taken from us by SMASHKILL we still own the system. Sure we are not useing the outpost like we wanted too but our towers are picking up where the outpost is lacking. Sometimes SMASHKILL outnumbers us sometimes we outnumber them but even now with all the crap they have tried we still own the system...and as far as paying for stuff goes trust me when I say we are doing just fine.
Some of our smaller corps are hurting for isk...sure...it happens when you are fighting 3-1 odds going on a month. The rest of RATEL is supporting our fellow corps so that we can continue with our operations in TDE.
Stay...go...die...makes no difference to me once your gone I am sure someone else will be along to take your place. RATEL and friends will still be here.
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Mujun Kross
Gallente Vogon Deconstruction Fleet Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.31 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: Mujun Kross on 31/08/2006 18:40:26 double post
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Sacul
Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2006.08.31 19:37:00 -
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2 pages is more than enough, back to the game gents! when i have a stable isp again im sure i can make a juicy target for you all.
-Sacul, Friend of Ratel.
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zykerx
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.08.31 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Kanae
Originally by: Nyssa Dakalsai Wow, its not like Ratel havnt had any indirect help from EU coalition.
They popped a whole smash fleet for them and 4 roadkill dreads..
Anyway, peace is returning to IPS constellation.
LV have been sighted in Geminate supporting SMASH in mixed fleets with an EVE-U presence aswell.
Ratel, Roadkill and SMASH (all formerly friends, during the ER,SAS & Co assault on IPS) are beating each otheres heads in over a station in a system full of crokite. They'll soon be ripe for a further invasion by another party (whoever tha hell this will be)
roadkill and smash were allowed to use the outpost as all neutrals were hardly makes them friends. They used it to try to get a foothold, get mercs, and get other alliances to help them....
ER, SAS, etc were atleast open with the intent
Ratel picked an out of the way system with no one in the area and built a station invasions were expected.
we followed smash in standings as they are oure allies, not sure how ratel and smash got red, ratel with outpost and use docking rights was enough for me personally but thats not up tome, im yust happy it isnt me with the posstuff
no need to use blue for a foothold in a area like that, posses are easy to get there, only problems are those pirate alliances with there gatecamps
Ratel does fight otherwise it would be kills with zero losses
wel have funn all, not tomuch poswarfare i hoop, that boring but needed :(
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Notso Cripple
Minmatar Rome SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.31 21:32:00 -
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Here is a update from the front: 2006.08.31 21:25
Victim: Shard Alliance: RATEL Alliance Corp: Feral Tendency Destroyed: Avatar System: TDE4-H Security: 2.4
we win. |
zykerx
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.08.31 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Notso Cripple Here is a update from the front: 2006.08.31 21:25
Victim: Shard Alliance: RATEL Alliance Corp: Feral Tendency Destroyed: Avatar System: TDE4-H Security: 2.4
we win.
ooh now ya get banned for posting killmails
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Notso Cripple
Minmatar Rome SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.31 21:48:00 -
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that is not a killmail, it is a organization of information. i could have put the time at the bottom and his name 3 pages down. same concept. |
Aerick Dawn
Gallente Vogon Deconstruction Fleet Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.31 22:12:00 -
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Quote: we followed smash in standings as they are oure allies, not sure how ratel and smash got red, ratel with outpost and use docking rights was enough for me personally but thats not up tome, im yust happy it isnt me with the posstuff
I dont know what was said, but I personally approached scooter after the first invasion attempt where roadkill put a pos in the system and it was promptly destroyed, and then hearing of a pretty devastating capital ship fleet loss in matebar. I honestly felt bad, and extended my hand in friendship, both alliances agreed. We have a history of extending our hands out to corporations that have warred with us in the past, and its really payed off for both. I know that many people in roadkill were running out of money, especially what happened after stain, and I figured they could come here and make some to get back on their feet, and maybe, just maybe, something good could come out of it.
Anyhow, Smash showed up and made an impression the first couple of days by wielding a show of force. Roadkill seemed to go with who they thought the winner would be. Which was parasitic, reflexive, and spineless. The only respect I have for roadkill is that they keep their killboard pretty accurate, otherwise, I'm glad they can convert oxygen into carbon dioxide, because it seems like they cant do much else.
Roadkill, Smash and Ratel were going to set mutual standings towards one another, Emperor changed his mind, and we were cool with that, totally cool with it, matter of fact we wished them luck(and we knew they were coming for us). Scooter saw an opportunity and basically gave my helpfullness the finger and betrayed me after a mutual agreement was already made and roadkill was entering the system. I wont be cool with Roadkill after what scooter1 did, Ever. Any alliance that would consider standings with these guys, here is your cautionary tale.
Smash is another story, they were up front about what they were going to do, we fight, people die. BFD, if they move out, we'll say "good fight, good luck". Smash and roadkill beleive we have 2 weeks to live as of a few days ago. You are sadly, sadly, sadly mistaken. I hear this from your pilots constantly and we pretty confused as to why you think what you think. The running joke in alliance chat now is that we better get packing, we have 1.5 weeks left now before we are destroyed". You've already lost an outpost's worth of material already attempting to conquer the system, so I kinda dont get why you beleive "we are on the edge of destruction".
When I see people ratting and mining now, which wasnt possible last week, I dont see where you are coming from. We had a mining op the other day that raked in nearly a half a billion isk in zyd. Go figure. but alas, we are doomed.
In short, GF Smash Roadkill = enemies for life
This will be the last time I post anything until the conclusion of the invasion. Good luck. This thread is beginning to turn into a days of our lives episode. ______________________
If I'm in a fair fight, i've done something terribly wrong. |
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Emmerich Steiner
Vogon Deconstruction Fleet Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.31 22:42:00 -
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NOOOOOOOOOO!
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Kuonrada Uotadan
Caldari Vogon Deconstruction Fleet Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.31 22:42:00 -
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Aerick, I have something to tell you...
Emmerich is your son, not Shard's.
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Graalum
Foundation
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Posted - 2006.08.31 22:54:00 -
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Smash/roadkill or lv did kill an FTC carrier belonging to falzone in u-l4ks. He was ratting in a belt with it and stayed there when a hostile gang showed up. Interestingly enough, the day before FND (which was in ftc at the time) was camping the di-9 gate when a much larger gang jumped in so we safespotted. Falzone was npcing in a belt, and a few roadkill/smash ceptors locked him down. He started crying in local for help, so the FND gang warps to him (after refusing gang invite the first two times) and manages to save the carrier. As soon as he warped to his pos, he left gang and refused to support us and started smacking in local. We were outnumbered badly and lost i think 8 of 9 ships, killing only 3.
From the FND forums, some interesting bits from local and gang. [ 2006.08.16 03:44:24 ] John Blackthorn > falzone stop talkcin in local [ 2006.08.16 03:44:35 ] br472267 > he s not in gang [ 2006.08.16 03:44:38 ] Mutant Caldari > Falzone isnt in gang [ 2006.08.16 03:45:21 ] John Blackthorn > he is now :) [ 2006.08.16 03:45:42 ] Mutant Caldari > more Smash [ 2006.08.16 03:45:47 ] Mutant Caldari > where is POS? [ 2006.08.16 03:45:50 ] Malleus Khord > where is the POS ? [ 2006.08.16 03:45:51 ] Ledah Righteous > SS or POS NOW [ 2006.08.16 03:45:55 ] Tempest Wind > 5-1 [ 2006.08.16 03:45:55 ] Falzone > Iyrs? [ 2006.08.16 03:45:58 ] Falzone > Ours? [ 2006.08.16 03:45:59 ] Tempest Wind > planet 5 moon 1 [ 2006.08.16 03:46:06 ] Falzone > Come back! [ 2006.08.16 03:46:08 ] Falzone > Aggro here [ 2006.08.16 03:46:16 ] Falzone > HELP! [ 2006.08.16 03:46:17 ] Falzone > (edited) HELP! [ 2006.08.16 03:46:20 ] Falzone > HOLY CHRIST HELP! [ 2006.08.16 03:46:25 ] Falzone > 8-4 [ 2006.08.16 03:46:28 ] Falzone > 8-3 [ 2006.08.16 03:46:30 ] Falzone > where we just were
[ 2006.08.16 03:55:43 ] Falzone > They didn't even scratch the armor. [ 2006.08.16 03:55:48 ] Mutant Caldari > lol [ 2006.08.16 03:55:57 ] Mutant Caldari > they sure scratched my armor [ 2006.08.16 03:56:03 ] Falzone > I heal 800 damage / second. [ 2006.08.16 03:56:08 ] Mutant Caldari > damn [ 2006.08.16 03:56:28 ] Falzone > If we had people to SCRAMBLE THEM...I could kill them all by myself. Sad [ 2006.08.16 03:56:42 ] Falzone > As it is, they warp away and my fighters chase after them [ 2006.08.16 03:56:58 ] Partz ofArtz > falzone.. you on TS? [ 2006.08.16 03:57:10 ] Falzone > Damn John [ 2006.08.16 03:57:14 ] Falzone > o.o Close call [ 2006.08.16 03:57:17 ] Falzone > I don't use TS - ventrilo [ 2006.08.16 03:57:27 ] John Blackthorn > falzone did you get the carrier out? [ 2006.08.16 03:57:30 ] Ledah Righteous > that's why you in trouble [ 2006.08.16 03:57:46 ] Tempest Wind > yes, falzone go the carrier out [ 2006.08.16 03:58:38 ] John Blackthorn > kk [ 2006.08.16 03:59:07 ] John Blackthorn > Now you can figure out how to to repay these losses on our ships. [ 2006.08.16 04:01:21 ] Falzone > Yes, I got out. [ 2006.08.16 04:01:24 ] Tempest Wind > lol..... [ 2006.08.16 04:01:27 ] Tempest Wind > ah well [ 2006.08.16 04:01:29 ] Falzone > Although I could have stayed. o.O [ 2006.08.16 04:01:41 ] Falzone > Can kill them, just need support to kil the frigates. [ 2006.08.16 04:01:54 ] Falzone > Alll I have are drones - I can assign them to any of you. [ 2006.08.16 04:02:18 ] br472267 > you sohuld help us kill the bs falzone ;(
[ 2006.08.16 04:05:18 ] Partz ofArtz > Falzone: You just need to install TS if your going to be a part of these gangs.. [ 2006.08.16 04:05:24 ] Partz ofArtz > even just to listen [ 2006.08.16 04:05:31 ] Falzone > I wasn't anticipating being a part of the gang. =p [ 2006.08.16 04:06:59 ] Mutant Caldari > lol [ 2006.08.16 04:07:08 ] Falzone > I'm a pacifist!
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Nesa
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.01 00:03:00 -
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This is hillarious.
Esp the fact that RATEL believe they've only lost 1 POS... Were the other's just 'misplaced' :o
Quote: LV have been sighted in Geminate supporting SMASH in mixed fleets with an EVE-U presence aswell.
I don't think so. LV and SMASH are VERY much ENEMIES. You don't even need to look outside this thread to see that.
EVE-U is BLUE to both RATEL and SMASH, being quite surprised when RATEL recently invited them to live in TDE without telling them it was a war zone, only to have SMASH ask them to turn around and come back when the siege was over. EVE-U doesn't want to help either side it appears.
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bixentine
Caldari Rionnag Alba Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.01 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Nesa This is hillarious.
Esp the fact that RATEL believe they've only lost 1 POS... Were the other's just 'misplaced' :o
Quote: LV have been sighted in Geminate supporting SMASH in mixed fleets with an EVE-U presence aswell.
I don't think so. LV and SMASH are VERY much ENEMIES. You don't even need to look outside this thread to see that.
EVE-U is BLUE to both RATEL and SMASH, being quite surprised when RATEL recently invited them to live in TDE without telling them it was a war zone, only to have SMASH ask them to turn around and come back when the siege was over. EVE-U doesn't want to help either side it appears.
i don't mean this as an insult but do you even play the game?
i see your name posted all over the forums smack talkingand trying to persuade people to join your corp, but i've never seen you online or on a killmail.
Maybe we have conflicting game-time schedules or maybe your full of it? Sig removed, lacks game related content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -Pirlouit
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Mujun Kross
Gallente Vogon Deconstruction Fleet Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.01 00:35:00 -
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Nesa is the SMASHKILL forums warrior. As far as the number of capital ships that RATEL has lost to this little dance that number is one caldari carrier...we replaced it the next day.
One of our allies has also lost a carrier though that one has also been replaced.
So if your keeping score thats 4 dreads lost by SMASHKILL and two carriers lost by RATEL and friends.
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Tandar Lee
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Posted - 2006.09.01 00:36:00 -
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ohh nesa is not only forrum warriors, she's a good fighter in-game too, u 2 lol I see sitting in local all the time but INSIDE POS not fighting, prove me wrong by fighting guys.
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Shadow Mancer
Warriors of God SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.01 00:37:00 -
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ohh nesa is not only forrum warriors, she's a good fighter in-game too, u 2 lol I see sitting in local all the time but INSIDE POS not fighting, prove me wrong by fighting guys. Long Live Warriors |
Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.01 00:42:00 -
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"He started crying in local for help, so the FND gang warps to him (after refusing gang invite the first two times) and manages to save the carrier. As soon as he warped to his pos, he left gang and refused to support us and started smacking in local. We were outnumbered badly and lost i think 8 of 9 ships, killing only 3."
i wouldve set him to -10 after that, no matter in what alliance he is. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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ZerO Sound
Full Throtle
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Posted - 2006.09.01 00:47:00 -
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I fully endorse the hilarity and ego bashing of this thread, and its complete unecassary existance.
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