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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
607
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:20:02 -
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Dwissi wrote:You seem to forget that there are stations in Thera. So as long as you can manage to get all components into it you can easily build your barges in Thera - no need to haul them. How would that help with mining ice in the 25 small holes? |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
607
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:21:45 -
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King Fu Hostile wrote:DaReaper wrote:Rain6637 wrote:I don't mine, but reaper good catch. +1 for new ships. and that this isn't an oversight... kinda big one Jack Hayson wrote:DaReaper wrote:So how do you mine the ice in the 25 small wh' systems? The smallest barge is 10m kg in mass. Simple: you don't. Frig hole max jumpmass is 5000 tons. (there is a reason why we call them sh*tholes) false. the T3 destroyers will get a bonus to mining lasers and an ice hold. see that would make sense. or the damn prospect being able to mine ice, anything. I honestly agree that the lack of a response to such a huge oversight means something is going to be announced. I assume eve downunder, but who knows No idea what would make that a huge oversight, unless you have a very serious case of OCD. Plays EVE, shocked at thought that an EVE player has OCD
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DaReaper
Net 7
1312
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:39:32 -
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Dwissi wrote:You seem to forget that there are stations in Thera. So as long as you can manage to get all components into it you can easily build your barges in Thera - no need to haul them.
Thera deosn;t have ice. The other 100 systems do. 25 of which are small frigate only holes, a barge is 10m kg a frig is 2m kg, a barge can not fit into a small hole. As only barges can mine ice, then there are going to be 25 holes with a feature that we as players can not use. Either someone did not stop and think and go 'oh wait, they can't mine that ice... doh' or 'oh these 25 holes don't have ice in them.. yea I forgot to fix the blog' or 'we are going to announce something so you can mine that ice (new mining frig, ice miner laser, something) but we are not ready to share it"
I just really want acknowledgement that ccp see that it has been brought up. I'm hoping by the end of the week after eve down under we will have an answer.
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Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
107
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Posted - 2014.11.18 18:23:13 -
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DaReaper wrote:Dwissi wrote:You seem to forget that there are stations in Thera. So as long as you can manage to get all components into it you can easily build your barges in Thera - no need to haul them. Thera deosn;t have ice. The other 100 systems do. 25 of which are small frigate only holes, a barge is 10m kg a frig is 2m kg, a barge can not fit into a small hole. As only barges can mine ice, then there are going to be 25 holes with a feature that we as players can not use. Either someone did not stop and think and go 'oh wait, they can't mine that ice... doh' or 'oh these 25 holes don't have ice in them.. yea I forgot to fix the blog' or 'we are going to announce something so you can mine that ice (new mining frig, ice miner laser, something) but we are not ready to share it" I just really want acknowledgement that ccp see that it has been brought up. I'm hoping by the end of the week after eve down under we will have an answer.
or ccp just copy pasted the wh 100 times then on 25 of them gave the bonus and restricted the size. To much work to remove the ice belts as they aren't hurting anything in there. |
Dwissi
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
92
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Posted - 2014.11.18 18:43:15 -
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DaReaper wrote:Dwissi wrote:You seem to forget that there are stations in Thera. So as long as you can manage to get all components into it you can easily build your barges in Thera - no need to haul them. Thera deosn;t have ice. The other 100 systems do. 25 of which are small frigate only holes, a barge is 10m kg a frig is 2m kg, a barge can not fit into a small hole. As only barges can mine ice, then there are going to be 25 holes with a feature that we as players can not use. Either someone did not stop and think and go 'oh wait, they can't mine that ice... doh' or 'oh these 25 holes don't have ice in them.. yea I forgot to fix the blog' or 'we are going to announce something so you can mine that ice (new mining frig, ice miner laser, something) but we are not ready to share it" I just really want acknowledgement that ccp see that it has been brought up. I'm hoping by the end of the week after eve down under we will have an answer.
The other holes are not restricted regarding POS afaik - so you can still build ships at a POS there.
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DaReaper
Net 7
1318
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Posted - 2014.11.19 03:13:46 -
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Lady Rift wrote:DaReaper wrote:Dwissi wrote:You seem to forget that there are stations in Thera. So as long as you can manage to get all components into it you can easily build your barges in Thera - no need to haul them. Thera deosn;t have ice. The other 100 systems do. 25 of which are small frigate only holes, a barge is 10m kg a frig is 2m kg, a barge can not fit into a small hole. As only barges can mine ice, then there are going to be 25 holes with a feature that we as players can not use. Either someone did not stop and think and go 'oh wait, they can't mine that ice... doh' or 'oh these 25 holes don't have ice in them.. yea I forgot to fix the blog' or 'we are going to announce something so you can mine that ice (new mining frig, ice miner laser, something) but we are not ready to share it" I just really want acknowledgement that ccp see that it has been brought up. I'm hoping by the end of the week after eve down under we will have an answer. or ccp just copy pasted the wh 100 times then on 25 of them gave the bonus and restricted the size. To much work to remove the ice belts as they aren't hurting anything in there.
this is true, but at the same time its a bit mm annoying lol.
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Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
108
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Posted - 2014.11.19 05:48:22 -
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DaReaper wrote:Lady Rift wrote:DaReaper wrote:Dwissi wrote:You seem to forget that there are stations in Thera. So as long as you can manage to get all components into it you can easily build your barges in Thera - no need to haul them. Thera deosn;t have ice. The other 100 systems do. 25 of which are small frigate only holes, a barge is 10m kg a frig is 2m kg, a barge can not fit into a small hole. As only barges can mine ice, then there are going to be 25 holes with a feature that we as players can not use. Either someone did not stop and think and go 'oh wait, they can't mine that ice... doh' or 'oh these 25 holes don't have ice in them.. yea I forgot to fix the blog' or 'we are going to announce something so you can mine that ice (new mining frig, ice miner laser, something) but we are not ready to share it" I just really want acknowledgement that ccp see that it has been brought up. I'm hoping by the end of the week after eve down under we will have an answer. or ccp just copy pasted the wh 100 times then on 25 of them gave the bonus and restricted the size. To much work to remove the ice belts as they aren't hurting anything in there. this is true, but at the same time its a bit mm annoying lol.
Its ccp it will be fixed. maybe by the 20th anniversary of eve. |
Elana Apgar
DarkMatter-Industries Upholders
11
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Posted - 2014.11.19 06:05:15 -
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I love the idea of shattered wormholes, but I think there's one thing that's being overlooked.
Shattered wormholes have ice, but the frigate sized shattered wormholes will not allow any ships to pass through that are capable of harvesting ice.
There should either be a mining frigate that is specifically designed to do ice harvesting, or the prospect should be modified to allow for ice harvesting as well. It's got a decent enough ore hold, and to prevent it from being too over powered, you could only allow it to have one ice harvester equipped and usable or come out with ice harvesting turrets.
Without a frigate sized ice harvester, you will be denying daring explorers and industrialists alike the opportunity (ie content) to do ice harvesting in those 25 systems. |
Dwissi
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
92
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Posted - 2014.11.19 06:50:01 -
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I still dont see the ice problem. There are no moons or planets - so no POS , no PI and no need for ice either. Just because its there doesnt require it to be mined.
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
12013
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Posted - 2014.11.19 12:54:41 -
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The small ship shattered wormhole systems will contain an ice field, just like the other shattered wormholes. You won't be able to mine the ice in the small ship shattered wormhole systems at this time.
For anyone wondering, this isn't a copy paste issue. We did (a small amount of) extra work to put the ice fields into these wormholes, their presence is intended and is not a bug.
If the presence of the ice in those systems offends you greatly, I advise right clicking on that particular anomaly and pressing the "Ignore" button.
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
1414
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Posted - 2014.11.19 14:04:33 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:The small ship shattered wormhole systems will contain an ice field, just like the other shattered wormholes. You won't be able to mine the ice in the small ship shattered wormhole systems at this time. For anyone wondering, this isn't a copy paste issue. We did (a small amount of) extra work to put the ice fields into these wormholes, their presence is intended and is not a bug. If the presence of the ice in those systems offends you greatly, I advise right clicking on that particular anomaly and pressing the "Ignore" button.
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
2533
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Posted - 2014.11.19 14:21:07 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:The small ship shattered wormhole systems will contain an ice field, just like the other shattered wormholes. You won't be able to mine the ice in the small ship shattered wormhole systems at this time. For anyone wondering, this isn't a copy paste issue. We did (a small amount of) extra work to put the ice fields into these wormholes, their presence is intended and is not a bug. If the presence of the ice in those systems offends you greatly, I advise right clicking on that particular anomaly and pressing the "Ignore" button. Speculation is on. I am thinking we are going to see an ice mining laser and ice blocks reduced to 100m3.
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Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
1274
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Posted - 2014.11.19 15:34:35 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:The small ship shattered wormhole systems will contain an ice field, just like the other shattered wormholes. You won't be able to mine the ice in the small ship shattered wormhole systems at this time. For anyone wondering, this isn't a copy paste issue. We did (a small amount of) extra work to put the ice fields into these wormholes, their presence is intended and is not a bug. If the presence of the ice in those systems offends you greatly, I advise right clicking on that particular anomaly and pressing the "Ignore" button.
I look forward to the new ice mining frigate. I hope it is a second t2 venture variant though, like the prospect, but with ice harvesting bonuses instead of gas/ore bonuses. |
DaReaper
Net 7
1325
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Posted - 2014.11.19 17:15:22 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:The small ship shattered wormhole systems will contain an ice field, just like the other shattered wormholes. You won't be able to mine the ice in the small ship shattered wormhole systems at this time. For anyone wondering, this isn't a copy paste issue. We did (a small amount of) extra work to put the ice fields into these wormholes, their presence is intended and is not a bug. If the presence of the ice in those systems offends you greatly, I advise right clicking on that particular anomaly and pressing the "Ignore" button.
Mildy disappointed Rhea won't have a way to mine it, but glad to get acknowledgement that it was intended. I look forward to ways of getting the ice. And will just have to mine the crap out of the 75 other systems if I ever connect to one lol
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
3639
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:55:47 -
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Prospect should gain the ability to fit ice harvesters as-is.
Might see them used a bit then, and dealing with that will provide a use for all of the electron blasters in the universe.
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Wizzard117
Viziam Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:45:39 -
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2 Devs What's the reason of having ice fields in frigate-only shattered wormholes considering no frigate can harvest ice atm? Will we be able to actually harvest this ice somehow?
Edit: y well, in the future ok. |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
366
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:05:56 -
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Thera should make a good battleground sounds like. |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
457
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Posted - 2014.11.21 21:40:17 -
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soooo basically small shattered wormholes are going to just be a thunderdome of devoters with 4 1600 plates and small guns.
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Sam Spock
The Scope Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2014.11.26 14:39:46 -
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My two cents: New expedition frigate that has ice mining bonuses instead of ore. Same as prospect but make it a little different like take out the cov ops cloak capability and put in interdiction nullifier or something like that. Either introduce ice lasers that only work on the Expedition frigates (might as well let unbonused Prospects use them as well) or allow this new ship to fit one Ice Harvester. Whichever is less messy.
Oh, and +1 on the guy that said make ice 100m3.
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Etnanes
S0utherN Comfort DARKNESS.
0
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Posted - 2014.11.27 13:38:39 -
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Are there gonna be relic/data sites ? If so will they be inhabited by sleepers ? thx for answers |
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James Spacecrawler
NERV Reborn Independent Stars Allied Forces
0
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Posted - 2014.11.29 06:42:14 -
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I think Thera is a great concept. I'm kind of sceptical on there actually being a strong incentive to inhabit the system, but the idea of a Jita for outlaws is very entertaining. I'm not too worried about Null sec alliances trying to lock down the system. We are talking about locking down a system that has no functional moons. There goes a huge incentive right there. And on top of that, they are moving manpower and ships to a place that is difficult to leave, reducing their numbers in actual null space. It's just a bad idea for any serious null sec alliance. |
ktown Hekard
Immortalis Fratres Vacui Legio immortales CXCI
60
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Posted - 2014.12.08 20:39:26 -
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Yay for adding resources that cant be harvested. Totally copy and pasted. CCP lies when they said "Extra effort was made to pute ice in the wh's" Yea right so your also unable to make a way to harvest it to?
Nice idea, bad execution. |
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