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Luxor Danith
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Posted - 2006.08.25 22:27:00 -
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Hey, has CCP put out anything "official" about what the new BC are going to be like? I remember seeing something about the new tier 2 bs, but have not seen anything about the BCs. Can anyone post a link, if such exists?
Thanks
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Lisento Slaven
Amarr The Drekla Consortium New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.08.25 22:31:00 -
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I don't recall a lot of official stuff being said about the tier 2 BC's. The gallente one is a drone one and the caldari is a missile one - those I know from all the crap talk been going on.
As for the Amarr one it's probably just an improved prophecy and as for the minmatar I'm really hoping for an autocannon demon...I like machine guns... =P ---
Lisento Slaven wants to be a Space Whaler in EVE.
Put in space whales!
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inSpirAcy
Caldari The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.25 22:31:00 -
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I've only seen an announcement of their names from the devs. There are some preliminary stats from the test server, but they're likely to be changed heavily/completely before release.
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Luxor Danith
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Posted - 2006.08.25 22:37:00 -
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Ah, very cool. Thanks for the stats, even if preliminary.
And did you see the grid on that amar monster?
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inSpirAcy
Caldari The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.25 22:40:00 -
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I'm hoping the tier 2 Amarrian BC gets at least four mids and does something vaguely interesting. If it just becomes a mini Geddon then it'll pretty much obsolete the Prophecy.
25% resistance or 25% RoF + an extra slot, which would you choose?
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Malcolm Adama
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Posted - 2006.08.25 23:49:00 -
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I'd like to see the Tier 2 BCs get a different role bonus than the Gang Warfare modules one: if their role is to be anti-smaller-ships, why not give them a role bonus to tracking or try something new and give them a med weapon sig resolution reduction so they are able to hit smaller ships without a double web. If you think that's potentially overpowering, make it destroyer-stlye, with a role bonus accompanied by a penalty.
Doing this would also mean the T2 Command Ships retain a unique and valued role over the tier 2 BCs.
Just my 2p
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Idara
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.26 00:04:00 -
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Proph already fills the BC tank role.
The new one supposidly will be a big Omen.
Gank instead of tank.
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Malcolm Adama
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Posted - 2006.08.26 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Malcolm Adama I'd like to see the Tier 2 BCs get a different role bonus than the Gang Warfare modules one: if their role is to be anti-smaller-ships, why not give them a role bonus to tracking or try something new and give them a med weapon sig resolution reduction so they are able to hit smaller ships without a double web. If you think that's potentially overpowering, make it destroyer-stlye, with a role bonus accompanied by a penalty.
Doing this would also mean the T2 Command Ships retain a unique and valued role over the tier 2 BCs.
Just my 2p
... or even keep the tanking bonus on the BCs so they don't become BS fodder, and then change the Gang Warfare bonus to a weapon bonus or something.
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Nyxus
GALAXIAN Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.08.26 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: inSpirAcy I'm hoping the tier 2 Amarrian BC gets at least four mids and does something vaguely interesting. If it just becomes a mini Geddon then it'll pretty much obsolete the Prophecy.
25% resistance or 25% RoF + an extra slot, which would you choose?
8 Turrets plus a damage or ROF bonus.
YARRRBQ baby. YARRRBQ.
Nyxus
Originally by: Tux The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
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Frools
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.26 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Nyxus
8 Turrets plus a damage or ROF bonus.
YARRRBQ baby. YARRRBQ.
Nyxus
qft, 8 turrets with 5% rof per level should come out around 750-800dps with heavy pulse II, conflag and 3 sinks thats approaching geddon damage
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Toolivus
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Posted - 2006.08.26 02:31:00 -
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Make me train my lasers again, please.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.26 03:41:00 -
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Drake will be awesome, hope they redo the Nighthawk to be based on it.
7 missile slots, an 8th for tractor beam. 6 slot tank (even better passive than the ferox?), and 4 lows for fitting and BCUs. Oh hell yes.
10% missile velocity, and 5% ROF like the raven please. kinetic-only damage for missiles is as big a bull**** bonus as when gallente only got bonus thermal for drones.
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Foulis
Minmatar Chosen Path
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Posted - 2006.08.26 04:41:00 -
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All I want to see is a min ship with a dual ROF bonus. ----
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xeom
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.26 05:07:00 -
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Originally by: Foulis All I want to see is a min ship with a dual ROF bonus.
*que wet dreams*
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Bhoki Tentor
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Posted - 2006.08.26 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Foulis All I want to see is a min ship with a dual ROF bonus.
Despite the fact it would be cool to have autocannons that actually act like autocannons, doubt that will ever happen. Reducing RoF by 75% would put it so low it could start lagging(1.215s RoF for dual 180mm before gyro's/implants )
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samuel222
Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try Genesis Industrial Foundation
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Posted - 2006.08.26 09:48:00 -
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i know this is off topic but i've been away for a while, is there a release date for kali yet?
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Bhoki Tentor
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Posted - 2006.08.26 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: samuel222 i know this is off topic but i've been away for a while, is there a release date for kali yet?
september was the intended month iirc. Don't know if they intend to release it then or not. Though if it has to be delayed to get it spiffy enough, so be it (not too long though pls)
on topic: In general it is pretty much confirmed the caldari are getting a missile barge, gallente a drone carrier and amarr a ganky laser platform like Omen/Geddon. Minmatar we haven't had any semi-official word on that but when just looking at the concept, it just yells fast AC damage ship with relatively poor tank(like stabber)
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Akkarin Pagan
Minmatar Raddick Explorations Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.26 10:56:00 -
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^ is what I want too
/me starts drooling at the thought
btw, CCP have pretty much stated that the tier 1 BCs are tanks, and the Tier 2s will be ganks
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Umit Davala
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.26 11:03:00 -
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After just looking at the In Testing and In Development sections of the Patch notes, it sems that the Teir 2 BCs aren't even in testing yet - I reckon they'll be out in Kali 2 or 3 now :(
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inSpirAcy
Caldari The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.26 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Umit Davala After just looking at the In Testing and In Development sections of the Patch notes, it sems that the Teir 2 BCs aren't even in testing yet - I reckon they'll be out in Kali 2 or 3 now :(
You're not expecting them to be tested, are you?
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Umit Davala
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.26 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: inSpirAcy
Originally by: Umit Davala After just looking at the In Testing and In Development sections of the Patch notes, it sems that the Teir 2 BCs aren't even in testing yet - I reckon they'll be out in Kali 2 or 3 now :(
You're not expecting them to be tested, are you?
Madness I know, but maybe a teensy bit of testing? I would hate to jump into my brand new ship only to find it needs a jump start otherwise it throws an exception.
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Now Mary
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Posted - 2006.08.26 11:24:00 -
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I wouldn't get too work up about it. They still have a month to finalize the stats, go through balance testing, and finish the models. And that is if the don't delay the release of the patch, which, if the past launches for patches and expansions tells us anything, is unlikely.
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Martinez
Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2006.08.26 14:28:00 -
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do yall not want a different type ship? i wish ccp would make them fast, lite armor, low sig radius, ships with 3 to 4 high slots that can fit bs weapons. bonues to tracking for missiles and guns so they can hit small objects. i just think something different with maybe some different slot set ups for races would be nice. what i am worried about is that teir 2 will make ships like the prophecy obsolete. we need more variety, not more vanilla ships.
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inSpirAcy
Caldari The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.26 14:46:00 -
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There is a workaround to keep the Prophecy from being obsoleted by a gank BC and that's to make it a true tank BC. Give it an armor bonus as well, similar to that suggested by Nyxus, because as it is a 25% bonus to resistances alone just won't cut it.
Gank is nearly always better than the current state of tanks. Particularly if the gank includes two extra turrets and a damage or RoF bonus, there's no way a little extra resistance will match that.
Or maybe this would be better ironed out with changes to the base armor/shields of all ships and classes, but until then, and if my prediction for the Tier 2 BC is right, the Prophecy is just going to be relegated to looking pretty and running missions. Kind of like an Apoc.
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Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.08.26 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Bhoki Tentor
Originally by: Foulis All I want to see is a min ship with a dual ROF bonus.
Despite the fact it would be cool to have autocannons that actually act like autocannons, doubt that will ever happen. Reducing RoF by 75% would put it so low it could start lagging(1.215s RoF for dual 180mm before gyro's/implants )
Two 5% bonuses to ROF would be a 0.5625 multiplier, a single 10% bonus would be 0.5. I don't see how you get .25, though that'd be very nice and put Minmatar through the roof when it comes to damage. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |
Fon Revedhort
RUS Academy Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.26 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: inSpirAcy ...the Prophecy is just going to be relegated to looking pretty and running missions.
qft
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Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.08.26 15:36:00 -
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I'm fully expecting 5% hybrid damage and 10% drone damage/hitpoints on the Gallente one. 6 turrets + bonused heavy drones... booyah! --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |
Linavin
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.26 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Nyxus 8 Turrets plus a damage or ROF bonus.
YARRRBQ baby. YARRRBQ.
There goes the zealot. Im definatley flying this instead ---
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Sevi Rekior
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Posted - 2006.08.26 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Bhoki Tentor
Originally by: Foulis All I want to see is a min ship with a dual ROF bonus.
Despite the fact it would be cool to have autocannons that actually act like autocannons, doubt that will ever happen. Reducing RoF by 75% would put it so low it could start lagging(1.215s RoF for dual 180mm before gyro's/implants )
Two 5% bonuses to ROF would be a 0.5625 multiplier, a single 10% bonus would be 0.5. I don't see how you get .25, though that'd be very nice and put Minmatar through the roof when it comes to damage.
yes, oops that's what they call a brain fart . I did calculate the dual 180mm RoF correctly though .
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Awox
Awox Inc. Whips and Chains
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Posted - 2006.08.26 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu I'm fully expecting 5% hybrid damage and 10% drone damage/hitpoints on the Gallente one. 6 turrets + bonused heavy drones... booyah!
Lucky bastards. - nerf 0.5+ |
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