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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.11.05 20:29:29 -
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Not too sure where to put this or if it should be in a specific feedback thread:
New video of tests on SiSi of these new nullsec Data Sites shows a drop (even if it is small) of Sleeper loot. Considering they just increased the price of the blue loot drops for lower class wormholes it seems odd they now add them to Data drops in K-Space?
Not sure what this means, if anything at all, but is there any other information on this?
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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Nash MacAllister
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
212
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Posted - 2014.11.05 20:37:04 -
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I saw the same video today as well. I was not aware until seeing it that blue loot was a thing in HS. Seems like an odd change unless there are some very grandiose plans for wspace that tie into that lore thread...
Yes, if you have to ask yourself the question, just assume we are watching you...
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epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1333
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Posted - 2014.11.05 20:49:37 -
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I wondered about that too, could be interesting times ahead.
[u]_There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE _[/u]
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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
954
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Posted - 2014.11.05 20:52:17 -
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Nash MacAllister wrote:I saw the same video today as well. I was not aware until seeing it that blue loot was a thing in HS. Seems like an odd change unless there are some very grandiose plans for wspace that tie into that lore thread... Well there is the whole deal of T3 Destroyers, but I was under the impression that T3 production was from parts salvaged from sleepers in WHs. Adding this blue loot to K-Space takes away some of the uniqueness from wormholes. Not to mention there are a lot of people who run Data sites in Null... That's a lot of Blue Loot...
Interesting times aye, just would be nice with a little information about it.
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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MooMooDachshundCow
Incertae Sedis
106
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Posted - 2014.11.05 21:07:02 -
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IMHO it's probably related to sleepers moving more into K-space. I seem to recall there being some rumblings to that effect in several recent lore posts.
In any case, since this is blue loot the volume of it produced has no effect on market prices. As such, and as long as it's just blue loot, this will not be a problem for wormholers AFAIK.
And let's be honest, which one makes more sense: NPC/faction loot/sites in wormholes or sleeper loot in k-space?
Also - this is actually called a sleeper site, so having sleeper salvage in it makes sense. I'm sure the lore will explain why sleepers are moving into k-space more in the future.
Lets hope that these sites encourage explorers to venture into wormholes.
Yeah, well, it's just like my-áopinion, man.
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
11949
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Posted - 2014.11.05 21:08:44 -
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All will be revealed in time......
In the meantime, you should all remember that blue loot is bought by NPC buy orders so dropping more of it in other places doesn't do anything to reduce its value.
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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
954
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Posted - 2014.11.05 21:17:22 -
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MooMooDachshundCow wrote:IMHO it's probably related to sleepers moving more into K-space. I seem to recall there being some rumblings to that effect in several recent lore posts.
In any case, since this is blue loot the volume of it produced has no effect on market prices. As such, and as long as it's just blue loot, this will not be a problem for wormholers AFAIK.
And let's be honest, which one makes more sense: NPC/faction loot/sites in wormholes or sleeper loot in k-space?
Also - this is actually called a sleeper site, so having sleeper salvage in it makes sense. I'm sure the lore will explain why sleepers are moving into k-space more in the future.
Lets hope that these sites encourage explorers to venture into wormholes. I'm not complaining, that's not the point of this thread, I'm just looking for a little more information, which now Fozzie has replied, it seems they cannot give out! (Hate it when that happens).
I agree it's a good incentive to increase the awareness of wormholes, more people to shoot in them is always a bonus.
If it is definitely a lore thing, I would be very happy with this, while not a RP'er I am somewhat interested in the lore aspect. I was somewhat disappointed with the sheer lack of Sleepers in the Eve: Source book.
CCP Fozzie wrote:All will be revealed in time......
In the meantime, you should all remember that blue loot is bought by NPC buy orders so dropping more of it in other places doesn't do anything to reduce its value. Meany
I'm not saying it will go down in price or lowering the cost of anything blue loot related. But it's just that sleepers have always been a Wormhole thing and if they have something to do with T3 Destroyer manufacturing that is taking away some of the profit that potential wormhole manufacturers will make. If people don't have to go into wormholes to get the blue loot they wont, they will take the path with least resistance.
I do however like the idea that there's potentially going to be more activities involving sleepers.
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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forsot
Resurrection Ventures Un.Bound
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Posted - 2014.11.05 21:24:39 -
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Did they say that it would be a k-space site? Testing rare w-space content in w-space is kind of stupid if you want it tested properly do to test server chains being depressingly short and some what difficult to find. |
MooMooDachshundCow
Incertae Sedis
107
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Posted - 2014.11.05 21:44:11 -
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forsot wrote:Did they say that it would be a k-space site? Testing rare w-space content in w-space is kind of stupid if you want it tested properly do to test server chains being depressingly short and some what difficult to find.
The video. Watch the video that was OP'ed next time and you won't ask that Q.
CCP Fozzie wrote:All will be revealed in time......
You should call the major reveal patch "time".
Yeah, well, it's just like my-áopinion, man.
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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
1840
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:05:03 -
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Nullbears will run the data and relic sites in nullsec, get the blue loot, and cry acidic tears of rage because they have nowhere to sell it in nullsec and they cant send it on their corp's daily milk run JF into k-space to be sold, because of jump fatigue.
Trolololol!
J's before K's.
Prolapse. Turning holes inside out with pew pew.
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Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
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Posted - 2014.11.06 05:18:15 -
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On the other hand I encountered k-space sites in wormholes (Sansha and Angel). Was this in the patch notes? Is it a bug or will this also be revealed in time. |
Winthorp
2855
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Posted - 2014.11.06 05:35:19 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote: In the meantime, you should all remember that blue loot is bought by NPC buy orders so dropping more of it in other places doesn't do anything to reduce its value.
How dare you confuse us that are strong believers in the tinfoil hat, RABBLE RABBLE.
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Nolak Ataru
Incursion Osprey Replacement Fund LLC
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Posted - 2014.11.06 05:42:17 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:All will be revealed in time......
In the meantime, you should all remember that blue loot is bought by NPC buy orders so dropping more of it in other places doesn't do anything to reduce its value.
Tinfoil time. If I needed another reason to *not* enter wormholes for the current future, Fozzie gave one loud and clear. |
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know Unsettled.
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Posted - 2014.11.06 06:30:00 -
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The fact that these are found in data and relic sites are significant. This means the pirate factions have started doing research into sleeper and tachyon tech. Side effects from this may be new hybrid sleeper/faction modules. Or even ships (probably balanced on par with current faction ships). But the pirate factions have been operating in sleeper space since the seyllin incident so seeing them making use of the tech is nothing strange. Keep in mind that Sansha has a working wormhole generator.
Also we do not yet know who will discover the new gate tech. But its very unlikely to be concord and the empires. They want their current control kept as is. It is very likely that this is a omen that the pirate factions are advancing their research now
~Bringer of happiness
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
11956
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Posted - 2014.11.06 11:16:57 -
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Sequester Risalo wrote:On the other hand I encountered k-space sites in wormholes (Sansha and Angel). Was this in the patch notes? Is it a bug or will this also be revealed in time. That's in the patch notes.
calaretu wrote:The fact that these are found in data and relic sites are significant. This means the pirate factions have started doing research into sleeper and tachyon tech. Side effects from this may be new hybrid sleeper/faction modules. Or even ships (probably balanced on par with current faction ships). But the pirate factions have been operating in sleeper space since the seyllin incident so seeing them making use of the tech is nothing strange. Keep in mind that Sansha has a working wormhole generator.
Also we do not yet know who will discover the new gate tech. But its very unlikely to be concord and the empires. They want their current control kept as is. It is very likely that this is a omen that the pirate factions are advancing their research now You probably want to watch the whole JonnyPew video. This isn't a normal data/relic site.
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Obil Que
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
186
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Posted - 2014.11.06 12:07:05 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Sequester Risalo wrote:On the other hand I encountered k-space sites in wormholes (Sansha and Angel). Was this in the patch notes? Is it a bug or will this also be revealed in time. That's in the patch notes. calaretu wrote:The fact that these are found in data and relic sites are significant. This means the pirate factions have started doing research into sleeper and tachyon tech. Side effects from this may be new hybrid sleeper/faction modules. Or even ships (probably balanced on par with current faction ships). But the pirate factions have been operating in sleeper space since the seyllin incident so seeing them making use of the tech is nothing strange. Keep in mind that Sansha has a working wormhole generator.
Also we do not yet know who will discover the new gate tech. But its very unlikely to be concord and the empires. They want their current control kept as is. It is very likely that this is a omen that the pirate factions are advancing their research now You probably want to watch the whole JonnyPew video. This isn't a normal data/relic site.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=383417&find=unread
Seems they arecalled "Limited Sleeper Cache"
Backstory in the dev posts on that link though that says now the are k-space only? |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
11957
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Posted - 2014.11.06 13:05:52 -
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Obil Que wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Sequester Risalo wrote:On the other hand I encountered k-space sites in wormholes (Sansha and Angel). Was this in the patch notes? Is it a bug or will this also be revealed in time. That's in the patch notes. calaretu wrote:The fact that these are found in data and relic sites are significant. This means the pirate factions have started doing research into sleeper and tachyon tech. Side effects from this may be new hybrid sleeper/faction modules. Or even ships (probably balanced on par with current faction ships). But the pirate factions have been operating in sleeper space since the seyllin incident so seeing them making use of the tech is nothing strange. Keep in mind that Sansha has a working wormhole generator.
Also we do not yet know who will discover the new gate tech. But its very unlikely to be concord and the empires. They want their current control kept as is. It is very likely that this is a omen that the pirate factions are advancing their research now You probably want to watch the whole JonnyPew video. This isn't a normal data/relic site. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=383417&find=unread Seems they arecalled "Limited Sleeper Cache" Backstory in the dev posts on that link though that says now the are k-space only?
Correct.
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calaretu
Honestly We didnt know Unsettled.
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Posted - 2014.11.06 15:32:52 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Obil Que wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Sequester Risalo wrote:On the other hand I encountered k-space sites in wormholes (Sansha and Angel). Was this in the patch notes? Is it a bug or will this also be revealed in time. That's in the patch notes. calaretu wrote:The fact that these are found in data and relic sites are significant. This means the pirate factions have started doing research into sleeper and tachyon tech. Side effects from this may be new hybrid sleeper/faction modules. Or even ships (probably balanced on par with current faction ships). But the pirate factions have been operating in sleeper space since the seyllin incident so seeing them making use of the tech is nothing strange. Keep in mind that Sansha has a working wormhole generator.
Also we do not yet know who will discover the new gate tech. But its very unlikely to be concord and the empires. They want their current control kept as is. It is very likely that this is a omen that the pirate factions are advancing their research now You probably want to watch the whole JonnyPew video. This isn't a normal data/relic site. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=383417&find=unread Seems they arecalled "Limited Sleeper Cache" Backstory in the dev posts on that link though that says now the are k-space only? Correct.
So the sleepers themself did really awaken. Not only their drones that we fight in wormholespace. This is indeed a interesting turn of events. And seeing that wormholegenerator in action raise some interesting options. Maybe thats what we should try to be reverse engineering.
~Bringer of happiness
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Nash MacAllister
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
213
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Posted - 2014.11.06 15:41:11 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:All will be revealed in time......
In the meantime, you should all remember that blue loot is bought by NPC buy orders so dropping more of it in other places doesn't do anything to reduce its value. Tinfoil time. If I needed another reason to *not* enter wormholes for the current future, Fozzie gave one loud and clear.
That makes zero sense...
Yes, if you have to ask yourself the question, just assume we are watching you...
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Nash MacAllister
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
213
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Posted - 2014.11.06 15:43:20 -
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I really like where this is headed. Thank you for the thread participation Fozzie...
Yes, if you have to ask yourself the question, just assume we are watching you...
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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
957
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Posted - 2014.11.06 15:57:50 -
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calaretu wrote:So the sleepers themself did really awaken. Not only their drones that we fight in wormholespace. This is indeed a interesting turn of events. And seeing that wormholegenerator in action raise some interesting options. Maybe thats what we should try to be reverse engineering. That could be interesting. Does this mean we can get some official Lore on the Sleepers??? Fozzie should page Falcon and totally confirm Sleeper Lore!!!
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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Shilalasar
Dead Sky Inc.
134
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Posted - 2014.11.06 16:24:13 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:That could be interesting. Does this mean we can get some official Lore on the Sleepers??? Fozzie should page Falcon and totally confirm Sleeper Lore!!!
And then they will just be meanies and tell you to read templar one or even a new book in work (is there?).
But I cannot wait for the day when there are sleepers with their full rack of ewar and mwding frigs on a gate in k-space and teach those capsuleers a lesson. |
Obil Que
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
186
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Posted - 2014.11.06 16:37:01 -
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Nash MacAllister wrote:I really like where this is headed. Thank you for the thread participation Fozzie...
It makes me a bit hopeful that wormhole space will not be completely left out of the storyline leading up to and involving stargate construction |
Callic Veratar
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Posted - 2014.11.06 21:30:36 -
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My theory is that C1, C2, and maybe C3 wormholes will move into kspace but need player constructed stargates to get to. C4-6 stay locked away. The addition of new systems should ensure there's enough to cover existing kspace with nearby unconnected wspace systems.
Part of the reasoning behind this is the new sleeper sites in null and pirate sites in C1-3. |
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1334
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Posted - 2014.11.06 23:06:03 -
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I think that wormhole space is the centre of the new direction, I am guessing that CCP looked into creating new wormhole systems for some reason and realised it was actually surprisingly quite easy. Probably because it was basically untouched, since.... Ever.
Now they have got the wind in their sails, they can really drive this forward and give wormhole space the greatest rush of invention we have ever seen. And maximise their development value, Thera opens our space, in a new way to all, who are adventurous, whilst still giving KS residents the sense of at least something familiar, but they will have to learn so much, and that leads to involvement and retention. This will also lead players out of their comfort zone, and psycologically ready for the challanges of New Space Gäó
So Not just a Win Win scenario,
But WIN! WIN! WIN, No one loses EVERYONE gains.
[u]_There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE _[/u]
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
11961
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Posted - 2014.11.07 00:15:31 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:I am guessing that CCP looked into creating new wormhole systems for some reason and realised it was actually surprisingly quite easy. Probably because it was basically untouched, since.... Ever. Nothing surprising about it.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-rubicon-1.2/
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epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1334
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Posted - 2014.11.07 00:44:20 -
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Thanks for the reply, speaking for myself, this whole path looks really exciting. I am REALLY looking forward to see where it goes, thank you, and thanks to your team and those working with you on it.
[u]_There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE _[/u]
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Billy Hix
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
174
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Posted - 2014.11.07 06:50:50 -
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Callic Veratar wrote:My theory is that C1, C2, and maybe C3 wormholes will move into kspace but need player constructed stargates to get to. C4-6 stay locked away. The addition of new systems should ensure there's enough to cover existing kspace with nearby unconnected wspace systems.
Part of the reasoning behind this is the new sleeper sites in null and pirate sites in C1-3.
Really interesting idea.
I'm not sure how I feel aout it. Part of me loves the idea, but part of me wanted new space.
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Upset Cesaille
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.11.09 18:02:10 -
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For those wondering...
Quote:Patch notes for EVE Online: Rubicon 1.2 Released on Tuesday, February 18th, 2014
FEATURES Database backend
Behind the scenes work to make future universe development easier. |
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1355
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Posted - 2014.11.10 23:48:58 -
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Upset Cesaille wrote:For those wondering... Quote:Patch notes for EVE Online: Rubicon 1.2 Released on Tuesday, February 18th, 2014
FEATURES Database backend
Behind the scenes work to make future universe development easier.
Such a few words, for what is now creating massive changes. One would never realise, from a few words tacked onto the patch notes, that such things were possible, I imagine a mass of development went into this "behind the scenes work"
Great to see it coming to life, Thanks All.
[u]_There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE _[/u]
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