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Karina Sasieko
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Posted - 2006.08.24 10:30:00 -
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Recently I was traveling a lot (without my laptop) and sometimes wanted to just log in in game at the inet cafe or office or other place. Issue is sometimes you can't install software in such places or you can't download the client couse it takes too much time and so on.
My idee, wouldn't be creating an EVE client liveCD a solution? With diffrent deployment mechanism or 'run from cd' autostart - maybe some http proxy software as a bonus to bypass those anoying firewalls would be a good thing too?
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Sevarus James
Minmatar Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.08.24 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Sevarus James on 24/08/2006 11:07:22 Actually an even easier way. Set up EVE on a USB drive (2 gig). As EVE requires NO files to be copied outside of the CCP folder, it will run anywhere. Just go to the /ccp/eve directory and double click the eve.exe and away ya go.
I have a copy of EVE on a USB 2.0 drive and it works perfectly as long as the machine you use can play EVE. (graphics card/memory/cpu/Operating system and of course port 26000).
This also includes any linux distro as well. (having cedega on the usb drive as well as EVE.) ----- ------------
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.24 12:18:00 -
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Too large to fit on a CD, even with very aggressive compression.
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Solbright
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Posted - 2006.08.25 05:40:00 -
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Then use a DVD instead of the CD.
However, the USB drive is a way better solution as it allows random access writes so can be used live with all your prefs. DVD-RAM could also work if DVD-RAM drives were the norm.
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evistin
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Posted - 2006.08.28 00:32:00 -
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USB drive can have a really BAD Read/write rate. But its doable for sure. ------------------- The Multiverse Corporation-Training the next generation of Eve Officers.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.08.28 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: evistin USB drive can have a really BAD Read/write rate. But its doable for sure.
Not really having any issues with the usb2.0 portable I'm currently using. (seagate 160gig drive.) ----- ------------
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Karina Sasieko
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Posted - 2006.09.02 11:04:00 -
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Thx for the pendrive idee. Yes - installing eve on it was so slow, but now when playing u don't feel the diffrence.
Not to mention a nice blue led that blinks like the led antenas on caldari ships o_O
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Sevarus James
Minmatar Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.09.02 11:58:00 -
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Wonder if the folks at the EVE store have thought of this yet.........selling USB2.0 keychain's preloaded with EVE to take with ya anywhere. Heck they thought of PDA and phone usage..............hmmmmmm.............ANY marketing FOLKS lurking?? hmmmmm?????
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4rc4ng3L
Gallente DarkSide Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.02 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sevarus James Wonder if the folks at the EVE store have thought of this yet.........selling USB2.0 keychain's preloaded with EVE to take with ya anywhere. Heck they thought of PDA and phone usage..............hmmmmmm.............ANY marketing FOLKS lurking?? hmmmmm?????
What he said, i will only buy it however if the keychain has some cool eve logo on it! Heck, i bought the eve CCG and iv never even played a ccg before. A keychain would be another inpulse buy that i wouldnt think twice about
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Sharkbait
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Posted - 2006.09.03 10:26:00 -
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i usb stick would be better for many reasons. 3 key reasons would be :
it would't take ages to load the game due to data transfer rates. you could keep you cache folder with it. a usb stick is smaller and less likely to get damaged or even broken.
usb stick 4tw CD 4tl
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EXZODIER
The Short Bus Squad The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.09.03 10:30:00 -
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your all nubs - i use my ipod with firewire and it works fine sometimes a little slow but most the time i just play like normal - heat can be an issue tho
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Redwolf
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.03 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: EXZODIER your all nubs - i use my ipod with firewire and it works fine sometimes a little slow but most the time i just play like normal - heat can be an issue tho
That why you pop so easy then?
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Jacques Archambault
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.09.03 10:56:00 -
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I'd welcome an EVE USB Stick. Not just to have the EVE Client on, but also to use as a regular USB stick.
You could have some kind of cool graphic on the stick itself, and maybe attach it to an EVE lanyard (you can already get one of these).
-Jacques'
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schemering
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Posted - 2006.09.03 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jacques Archambault I'd welcome an EVE USB Stick. Not just to have the EVE Client on, but also to use as a regular USB stick.
You could have some kind of cool graphic on the stick itself, and maybe attach it to an EVE lanyard (you can already get one of these)
A USB stick in the physical form of one of the ships maybe? The Armageddon comes to mind...
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Skawl
GeoTech
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Posted - 2006.09.03 11:24:00 -
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I always thought the thorax looks designed to be inserted somewhere...
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Jacques Archambault
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.09.03 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: schemering
A USB stick in the physical form of one of the ships maybe? The Armageddon comes to mind...
No no no.. Thorax would be better.
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Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2006.09.03 11:33:00 -
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The downside to a USB stick is that, IIRC, flash memory devices have a lifetime measured in writes - I think it's like 100,000 or so writes on average. And Eve writes to disk a lot. You'd probably get a pretty high failure rate, unfortunately.
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evistin
Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Joerd Toastius The downside to a USB stick is that, IIRC, flash memory devices have a lifetime measured in writes - I think it's like 100,000 or so writes on average. And Eve writes to disk a lot. You'd probably get a pretty high failure rate, unfortunately.
SO True. They are not design to run application of such scale of them.
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I think this is more suited to your requirements. But then you have the problems of a harddrive, not a flash stick. ------------------- Management and Leadership û The Eve-online Guide |
Shahadet
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Posted - 2006.09.03 12:14:00 -
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I have a little 4 gig drive for my DSLite that has a copy of EvE on it. It's a micro harddrive so it does not have the read right issues of Flash memory.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.09.03 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Sevarus James on 03/09/2006 13:14:52 Edited by: Sevarus James on 03/09/2006 13:14:06
Originally by: Joerd Toastius The downside to a USB stick is that, IIRC, flash memory devices have a lifetime measured in writes - I think it's like 100,000 or so writes on average. And Eve writes to disk a lot. You'd probably get a pretty high failure rate, unfortunately.
Taken from the wiki referencing the limitations of the flash memory devices in regards to "write/erase" limitations.
<snip> . When compared to a hard disk drive, a further limitation is the fact that flash memory has a finite number of erase-write cycles (most commercially available flash products are guaranteed to withstand 1 million programming cycles) so that care has to be taken when moving hard-drive based applications, such as operating systems, to flash-memory based devices such as CompactFlash. This effect is partially offset by some chip firmware or filesystem drivers by counting the writes and dynamically remapping the blocks in order to spread the write operations between the sectors, or by write verification and remapping to spare sectors in case of write failure.
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The 100k limitation is to the older camera flash chips called "NOR". Toshiba came out with the more 'disklike' flash called "NAND" which has the higher lifespan, and what is normally used in usb keychain devices.
Oh, by the way, thanks Jacques for moving this up here. Seems like a cool way to deliver EVE in a unique and fun way.
Either way, the small micro hard disk units (such as the one linked to above a couple of posts) would be a neat way to deliver our favorite MMO as well. ----- ------------
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Sevarus James
Minmatar Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.09.03 13:26:00 -
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Another reason this might be a nifty way to deliver EVE...BANDWIDTH!
Those users on slower or dialup connections could order the keychain device, and no issue with downloads. I know some places where even cable/high speed is regulated, a big game like EVE puts a crimp on some users ability to do big downloads.
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evistin
Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sevarus James Another reason this might be a nifty way to deliver EVE...BANDWIDTH!
Those users on slower or dialup connections could order the keychain device, and no issue with downloads. I know some places where even cable/high speed is regulated, a big game like EVE puts a crimp on some users ability to do big downloads.
Sev
I disagree. A USB flash or harddisk drive is far more diffcult to transport than a CD or DVD disk. This solve the problem of bandwidth limited users.
The USB drive concept is to help people who can't install it on the computer or being very mobile without a notebook. ------------------- Management and Leadership û The Eve-online Guide |
DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.09.03 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: 4rc4ng3L
Originally by: Sevarus James Wonder if the folks at the EVE store have thought of this yet.........selling USB2.0 keychain's preloaded with EVE to take with ya anywhere. Heck they thought of PDA and phone usage..............hmmmmmm.............ANY marketing FOLKS lurking?? hmmmmm?????
What he said, i will only buy it however if the keychain has some cool eve logo on it! Heck, i bought the eve CCG and iv never even played a ccg before. A keychain would be another inpulse buy that i wouldnt think twice about
hmmm usb key with ac Eve faction logo...nice idea, I'd get one. (its just a plastic case, I'm sure it can be done)
I foundf Lexar usb2 sticks to be about the least problematic. memorex just sucked arse.
Of course it would need at least 1 gig (its how I moved my install) but a 2 gig stick would be perfect.
Get Wrangler on this project ASAP! <big cheesy grin>
Seriuosly, this is a viable software distribution path with a collectablity factor.
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Odeweaver
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Posted - 2006.09.03 14:08:00 -
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hmmm, portable and 2 gigs, how about one of these, its a hard drive so you would have to have the write issue, that or an ipod.
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DanFraser
OCForums
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Posted - 2006.09.03 14:41:00 -
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To make it even more viable to use a usb drive, how about CCP reduce writes by allowing you to stop logging chats, errors (some, not all) and basically anything that isn't needed, isn't written. Heck, I don't mind not seeing people's portraits, that's a lot of space/writing saved there.
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Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2006.09.03 15:01:00 -
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A million writes is still not that many given that Eve seems to write every line to every log seperately... A micro HDD would probably be a more reliable option, particularly if you could add some ruggedisation.
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Odeweaver
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Posted - 2006.09.03 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: DanFraser To make it even more viable to use a usb drive, how about CCP reduce writes by allowing you to stop logging chats, errors (some, not all) and basically anything that isn't needed, isn't written. Heck, I don't mind not seeing people's portraits, that's a lot of space/writing saved there.
Good idea!
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Chronus26
Gallente Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.09.03 15:11:00 -
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Maybe an iPod mini might do the trick, Micro HDD based so no limited write op problems and should be pretty quick with firewire/USB2.0
Maybe look on Ebay for one with a broken screen or damaged controls or whetever? (unless you wanted to use it to play music too ) ----- Move along, nothign to see here... |
Sevarus James
Minmatar Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.09.03 15:33:00 -
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After some googling, it appears that the newer flash drives on the market (especially the 1+ gig sizes) are getting a LOT longer lifespan than the stuff with a million or less writes. Seems all over the board right now.
Food fer thought though. ----- ------------
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.03 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jacques Archambault
Originally by: schemering
A USB stick in the physical form of one of the ships maybe? The Armageddon comes to mind...
No no no.. Thorax would be better.
But seriously, ship shaped USB sticks would be a cool idea. Just gotta make sure they don't hamper the ability of the stick to fit into certain USB ports.
I like it... the Typhoon version could double as a trash can too. :)
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