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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2011.11.28 22:43:00 -
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Maximille Biagge wrote:I blame incursions... It is actually incursions that are to blame, or more accurately incursion runners whining about being killed. |
NickyYo
StarHug Brotherhood of Starbridge
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Posted - 2011.11.28 22:47:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:This is a rage QQ post for CCP introducing something that broke something else big time (surprise?). You have been warned. Logistics getting warnings and concord algorithm disabling their cap transfers is ANNOYING AS HELL AND MUST BE FIXED. When I am in the same corp as my logi parter and our whole alliance is at war with a second alliance concord algorithm (which is probably made by a group of drunk and corrupted cops!) gives me a warning and disables my energy transfers to my logi partner while we try to keep out fleet alive. Oh, and how many time does this happen on a timescale of say 1-2 min. combat? It happens 3 times. Seriously? You are trying to "protect" me by disabling my energy transfers with my corp mate who is in the same war as we both are repping alliance members? Do you know how big of a pain this is? We aren't even neutral logistics for the love of god. Please fix the code for this *collapses on ground and starts crying*
What your really crying about is..
"CCP I can no longer use my logistic alt in the neutral NPCorp to remote rep me and my corpies in time of war."
A lot of merc corps do this to avoid losing their logistic alts, its basically an exploit, nice fix CCP! |
Horus Menvra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2011.11.28 23:01:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:
What your really crying about is..
"CCP I can no longer use my logistic alt in the neutral NPCorp to remote rep me and my corpies in time of war."
A lot of merc corps do this to avoid losing their logistic alts, its basically an exploit, nice fix CCP!
You do realize that this affects all RR in HS/LS, not just neutral? This mechanic trips when you have a new incoming aggression flag. For example:
1. Player A in corp 1 steals from player B in corp 2. Gaining an aggression flag towards corp 2. 2. Player C assists player A in some fashion (reps, remote sebo, etc), gaining an aggression flag towards corp 2. 3. Player B shoots player A, giving player A an individual aggression flag towards player B. 4. Player C's reps shut off and he receives a warning, regardless of what corp he's in, due to the incoming aggression flag towards player B, even though he is already aggressed towards corp 2.
As you can (hopefully) see, this change affects everyone - meaning neutral and in-corp logi. The best solution, in my opinion, is to introduce a check-box that disables the warning and prevents your modules from being turned off. This way, an entire class of ships aren't completely marginalized, and those who want protection (namely incursion runners) have it. |
NickyYo
StarHug Brotherhood of Starbridge
6
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Posted - 2011.11.28 23:15:00 -
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Horus Menvra wrote:NickyYo wrote:
What your really crying about is..
"CCP I can no longer use my logistic alt in the neutral NPCorp to remote rep me and my corpies in time of war."
A lot of merc corps do this to avoid losing their logistic alts, its basically an exploit, nice fix CCP!
You do realize that this affects all RR in HS/LS, not just neutral? This mechanic trips when you have a new incoming aggression flag. For example: 1. Player A in corp 1 steals from player B in corp 2. Gaining an aggression flag towards corp 2. 2. Player C assists player A in some fashion (reps, remote sebo, etc), gaining an aggression flag towards corp 2. 3. Player B shoots player A, giving player A an individual aggression flag towards player B. 4. Player C's reps shut off and he receives a warning, regardless of what corp he's in, due to the incoming aggression flag towards player B, even though he is already aggressed towards corp 2. As you can (hopefully) see, this change affects everyone - meaning neutral and in-corp logi. The best solution, in my opinion, is to introduce a check-box that disables the warning and prevents your modules from being turned off. This way, an entire class of ships aren't completely marginalized, and those who want protection (namely incursion runners) have it.
No, You lot complain about GTC prices so high that because incursions are easy this is a nice fix. It fixes incursions and fixes grefier corp exploits with the neutral reppers. |
JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.11.28 23:19:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:This is a rage QQ post for CCP introducing something that broke something else big time (surprise?). You have been warned. Logistics getting warnings and concord algorithm disabling their cap transfers is ANNOYING AS HELL AND MUST BE FIXED. When I am in the same corp as my logi parter and our whole alliance is at war with a second alliance concord algorithm (which is probably made by a group of drunk and corrupted cops!) gives me a warning and disables my energy transfers to my logi partner while we try to keep out fleet alive. Oh, and how many time does this happen on a timescale of say 1-2 min. combat? It happens 3 times. Seriously? You are trying to "protect" me by disabling my energy transfers with my corp mate who is in the same war as we both are repping alliance members? Do you know how big of a pain this is? We aren't even neutral logistics for the love of god. Please fix the code for this *collapses on ground and starts crying*
Blame the people who came up with the creative way to have entire incursion gangs destroyed by Concord. It's the reason the initial part of this 'band-aid' was applied in the first place.
Though I agree its sloppy and not all that great of a permanent solution. Hope they can figure out something better. |
Horus Menvra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2011.11.28 23:22:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:No, You lot complain about GTC prices so high that because incursions are easy this is a nice fix. It fixes incursions and fixes grefier corp exploits with the neutral reppers.
You don't understand aggression mechanics in the slightest, do you? |
NickyYo
StarHug Brotherhood of Starbridge
6
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Posted - 2011.11.28 23:29:00 -
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Horus Menvra wrote:NickyYo wrote:No, You lot complain about GTC prices so high that because incursions are easy this is a nice fix. It fixes incursions and fixes grefier corp exploits with the neutral reppers. You don't understand aggression mechanics in the slightest, do you?
No |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
409
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Posted - 2011.11.29 00:43:00 -
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Horus Menvra wrote:NickyYo wrote:No, You lot complain about GTC prices so high that because incursions are easy this is a nice fix. It fixes incursions and fixes grefier corp exploits with the neutral reppers. You don't understand aggression mechanics in the slightest, do you?
hell he doesn't even know the difference between GTC and PLEX
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Horus Menvra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2011.11.29 07:29:00 -
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Quick bump for the Devs now that they're awake again. Any chance we can get a Dev comment on the feasibility/desirability of adding a check-box to prevent the new aggression warning/disabling of reps? |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
156
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Posted - 2011.11.29 07:39:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Horus Menvra wrote:NickyYo wrote:No, You lot complain about GTC prices so high that because incursions are easy this is a nice fix. It fixes incursions and fixes grefier corp exploits with the neutral reppers. You don't understand aggression mechanics in the slightest, do you? No
Wow ... I specifically stated I was not using a neutral alt. Sorry, but you are stupid, sir. quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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