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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:09:00 -
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Curiosity to the bob killboards calculate the isk loss of Faction modules ?
Because i'd make a guesse a lot of your HaC's are fitted with them.
Not a flame as such, just an observation. The stats aren't really that impressive in BoB's favour considering the lemming like aproach of Goons.
That being said, GS lost their 0.0 backbone... what have they got left apart from their pilots who seem to be dead or on alts in empire. and a Leader who believes he's an old German leader (Forum censors his name )....
BoB won, end of.
Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Jonis Sinmaker
Fallout Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:10:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan I'm noticing an interesting lack of posts on this thread like 'geiv missl' and 'it's just an online spaceship game' and all the other roflol noobswarm posts.
Good job, BoB. I'm just surprised there hasn't been any noobswarm response. At all. Not even a smartass one.
I would have to say it's because the goonies aren't allowed to post here anymore and if they post with their alts the mods will *snip* and *delete* so even if they did post it wouldn't be here long anyway....
-------- Semper Fi, Jonis Sinmaker
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Rift Scorn
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:10:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Captain Thunk But I was looking at BoBs killboard yesterday and I happened to notice that for the first time that I've seen BoB lost more Battleships(11) than it destroyed(8)
I can't answer any of the other questions Thunk, i'll have to leave that up to the big dawgs.
But as for the more BS lost than killed, We've come under a lot of fire on the forums for not posting all our loss mails, and i hope that this goes some way to showing that we really do try our utmost to keep the board as accurate as we possibly can, especially on the losses front win/loose or draw.
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tookar
Amarr Krookid
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:12:00 -
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Plenty of goons are still flying around eve in their goon tags :) in fact id go so far as to say there are probably at least 90% of the goons online at anytie who were online before the invasion . Making just as much isk too . The goons you kill are the ones who are making bets if they can get through an 8 bubble camp in a frig :) All the time you camped there goons just got stronger and stronger as usual . As you yourself say "why engage the enemies on their terms? Fight on yours." This is exactly what goons are doing .
Guess what goons are winning / have won . Noone is leaving eve :) See ya around for the next year or two and especially see you once there are enough t2 fitted bs in goons to make a stand up fight of it . As i said before the isk involved in this war is meaningless for both sides . Goons have the numvbers and the sp are steadily increasing , blobs of 400 frigs are easy to kill with maybe 3 caps and a few t1 bs , try 300 t2 fitted bs and 100 dreads in 6 months time then we will see how the chest beating goes :)
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Edoo
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:14:00 -
[125]
if bob had won, why would they need to exxadurate stats and use propaganda.
eve = game game = for fun goons had more fun
= BoB lost the game
You also lost more respect from people for sheer arrogance, which is why i felt the need to reply.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:14:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan I'm noticing an interesting lack of posts on this thread like 'geiv missl' and 'it's just an online spaceship game' and all the other roflol noobswarm posts.
Good job, BoB. I'm just surprised there hasn't been any noobswarm response. At all. Not even a smartass one.
Tookar and Edoo are giving thier all to make it come accross as a stunning Goon victory though. MC in this case were fighting the same enemy as BoB as we we're on contract so of course we will say well done. Regardless of killboard stats, Goons lost cap ships and POS and they were slaughtered at a ratio of over 33 to 1 in their home space, this is not a goon victory whichever way one looks at it.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher We lost?
Interesting point of view considering we have had nothing but complete and utter crushing victories since we arrived, removed all their pos, forced them out of their home, forced them to play on other chars, forced their leader oog, forced them to stop posting on the forums, forced them to dissapear as a 0.0 entity and ofc, will continue to force them to do whatever the hell we want in 0.0.
If that's a loss then I look forward to getting a victory.
But, a loss or victory would mean that this was over.
It's not, otherwise we wouldn't be continually monitoring the situation.
The only thing this is, is a completion of a strict set of objectives set up the day Molle post "no".
There are plenty more in the pipeline,
Now random trolls and flamers not involved you can move along,
dbp
I don't think anyone is arguing that you didn't win. It just wasn't as painless as you would have us believe.
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Nifel
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Edoo if bob had won, why would they need to exxadurate stats and use propaganda.
eve = game game = for fun goons had more fun
= BoB lost the game
You also lost more respect from people for sheer arrogance, which is why i felt the need to reply.
If I'd get 1 ISK for every time someone felt insulted by us doing things right and then tell them about it so they perceive it as arrogance I'd be the first trillionare in EVE.
"When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14) |
DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:18:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/08/2006 14:19:03 The stats are there, you assign whatever values you want to them.
I could add in the money spent for fuel and stront on our dreads while killing pos, or the opportunity cost of us doing something else, or some random market value of hacs and the other ships, or the exact fittings cost (that would only make goons look worse by the way, they use a shedload of t2 stuff)
However, when it comes down to it, to us, it was painless.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:19:00 -
[130]
Originally by: NATMav
I don't think anyone is arguing that you didn't win.
Let me rephrase that.
I don't think anyone who isn't a Goon fanboi or BoB hater is arguing that you didn't win.
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Edoo
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:19:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan I'm noticing an interesting lack of posts on this thread like 'geiv missl' and 'it's just an online spaceship game' and all the other roflol noobswarm posts.
Good job, BoB. I'm just surprised there hasn't been any noobswarm response. At all. Not even a smartass one.
Tookar and Edoo are giving thier all to make it come accross as a stunning Goon victory though. MC in this case were fighting the same enemy as BoB as we we're on contract so of course we will say well done. Regardless of killboard stats, Goons lost cap ships and POS and they were slaughtered at a ratio of over 33 to 1 in their home space, this is not a goon victory whichever way one looks at it.
BoB/MC lost credibility, respect, game time, isk, hmm more respect again.
Goons killed more than BoB expected, and BoB try to twist it to save face. Its a game you don't need to save face.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: tookar Plenty of goons are still flying around eve in their goon tags :) in fact id go so far as to say there are probably at least 90% of the goons online at anytie who were online before the invasion . Making just as much isk too . The goons you kill are the ones who are making bets if they can get through an 8 bubble camp in a frig :) All the time you camped there goons just got stronger and stronger as usual . As you yourself say "why engage the enemies on their terms? Fight on yours." This is exactly what goons are doing .
Guess what goons are winning / have won . Noone is leaving eve :) See ya around for the next year or two and especially see you once there are enough t2 fitted bs in goons to make a stand up fight of it . As i said before the isk involved in this war is meaningless for both sides . Goons have the numvbers and the sp are steadily increasing , blobs of 400 frigs are easy to kill with maybe 3 caps and a few t1 bs , try 300 t2 fitted bs and 100 dreads in 6 months time then we will see how the chest beating goes :)
If goons are winning, why is the only spokesperson for their entire alliance on the forums to the rest of the eve world you? Are you the Goonswarm Information Minister?
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Edoo
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:20:00 -
[133]
Originally by: DB Preacher irrelevant play-down
lol
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:22:00 -
[134]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/08/2006 14:24:20
Edoo: I guess an irrelevant play down is slightly more interesting than simply being.... irrelevant.
Don't be a hater edoo, the GNW was a looooong time ago.
Tookar: I think you are having problems understanding the "this is only the beginning part".
Maybe once you have been involved in alliance warfare to some extent you will understand what this post means. Until then, continue zipping around solo getting killed and making meaningless posts about stuff you don't understand because you haven't experienced it first hand.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Edoo
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:22:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: tookar Plenty of goons are still flying around eve in their goon tags :) in fact id go so far as to say there are probably at least 90% of the goons online at anytie who were online before the invasion . Making just as much isk too . The goons you kill are the ones who are making bets if they can get through an 8 bubble camp in a frig :) All the time you camped there goons just got stronger and stronger as usual . As you yourself say "why engage the enemies on their terms? Fight on yours." This is exactly what goons are doing .
Guess what goons are winning / have won . Noone is leaving eve :) See ya around for the next year or two and especially see you once there are enough t2 fitted bs in goons to make a stand up fight of it . As i said before the isk involved in this war is meaningless for both sides . Goons have the numvbers and the sp are steadily increasing , blobs of 400 frigs are easy to kill with maybe 3 caps and a few t1 bs , try 300 t2 fitted bs and 100 dreads in 6 months time then we will see how the chest beating goes :)
If goons are winning, why is the only spokesperson for their entire alliance on the forums to the rest of the eve world you? Are you the Goonswarm Information Minister?
Because these forums are pathetic and stupid in the eyes of lots of the community. Goons don't need to post.
BoB however feel the need to post to save face (lol).
Nice to see MC sticking up for their allies though.
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tookar
Amarr Krookid
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:22:00 -
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Im not trying to make it look a stunning goon victory . More like a miscalculation from BoB from the start . Goons have not been hurt in isk terms so how have they been hurt? losing a few pos and npc stations? Lots more in eve you know .
The thing i am most surprised to see is that goons actually made a decent ship vs ship ratio if you discout BoB members counting their hacs as only worth 40mil isk :) If thats the case you may as well say all goons frigs and cruisers dont count cos they got them free :) (which they do btw) . In these situations if your working out an isk lost per side you have to use the average eve price . BoB win there by a slight marging (probably not at all if we were to count modules) and it took them 3 weeks of killing lone ships in bubble camps whos pilots were jumping in for a laugh to do it :)
I mean i lost a few af / ceptors to bob in s-u mostly through engageing hacs and domi etc alone for fun :)
Bottom line is BoB stated they would crush goons , make them leave eve , force them not to be able to play and all these other boasts NONE of which have happened or is ever likely to happen . As i stated before the relative sp gap between the 2 sides closes each day as goons specialise and BoB should be aware they have made a dangerous enemy by trying to gank a noob alliance while it was engaged with one of the other big alliances in game .
If your gonna jump on a bandwagon guys at least have a plan of action first . Gratz BoB leadership
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Edoo
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: Edoo on 18/08/2006 14:24:43
Originally by: DB Preacher I guess an irrelevant play down is slightly more interesting than simply being.... irrelevant.
Don't be a hater edoo, the GNW was a looooong time ago.
dbp
Nice put-down DBP, but i wasn't in the GNW.
I flame for bob's arrogance, no other reason these days.
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ChefAce
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: tookar Edited by: tookar on 18/08/2006 13:50:42 Its not spin its the truth :) Wait and see remedial will be back soon then you will see the rest of goons plan in action .
Oooo wow 2 whole carriers? Thats awesome guys :)
The campaign so far to make goons leave eve :)
BoB invade. goons retreat and have fun killing their own frig in bobs camps . BobB have absolutely no idea where most of the enemy have gone so assume they arnt logging in ;P . BoB claim dubious victory in isk terms (to be fair they may be slightly ahed but the amounts lost are trivial) . BoB retreats from s-u after getting bored ( probably goons plan all along) . BoB comes with some bluster about destroying anything goons build in the future . Goons laugh!
In the future BoB are probably more than welcome to waste their time killing neglible amounts of isk while we ... i mean goons are off with our alts making isk and having fun . Please camp some more npc stations in future at least we get a good laugh at the victory spinnage :_)
Damn, and I though I disliked BoB. At least I respect their in-game accomplishments.
Btw, how much are GS paying you to be their twisted little forum monkey? I was just curious as I might rent myself out too, if it's profitable.
(God, I never thought I'd say this)
Congrats to all the BoBers.
Hehe, I even popped into S-U to see what the deal was and I was not disappointed in what I found.
I'll explain step by step as to what I discovered.
1.) Made my way through Syndicate to S-U
2.) Jumped into S-U
3.) Screen loaded
4.) Saw quite a few bubbles
5.) Said hello
6.) Woke up in a station
7.) Refreshed my clone
And since the GS squad are a bunch of forum *****s I highly doubt that they simply obeyed orders not to post here. Then again there are an inordinant amount of n00b corp characters posting here. I wonder what it all means?
Regards, Chef
P.S. Before you even say "but you're in a n00b corp", I fought BoB for a long time when I was with Imperium. Too bad the rest of my alliance wasn't into fighting.
And to the MC guy who said that they now have worthy opponents in Imp and VC; you're kidding right? Worthy? That's one of the funniest things I have ever heard.
Anyone willing to follow the half baked leadership of Imp is a mentally divergent simpleton. The Dorklord, yeah right.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:25:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Edoo Nice to see MC sticking up for their allies though.
More than can ever be said for you though, right?
/me lights the blue touch paper.
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Coranor
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:26:00 -
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We did'nt exaggerate anything. Preacher simply posted what we'd lost and what we'd killed. I'm sorry to burst your bubble mate but You can't turn kill ratios like this around or try to spin them any other way.
As for fun?. OMG have you ever had your dreads jumped by 100 frigs and had to warp into an active pos to bail them out? So much fun. Or jumped into 40 of them and slaughter them all in a race against time as they try to kill a cerb? Cerb survived btw :). Thats only two instances I'm sure the other guys will share more with you if you ask nicely.
Sorry man but see all that = fun. --------------
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Edoo
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Edoo Nice to see MC sticking up for their allies though.
More than can ever be said for you though, right?
/me lights the blue touch paper.
I have never betrayed an ally
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tookar
Amarr Krookid
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:26:00 -
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lol i see we are at last past the point of putting across our views and have resorted to the usual "fanboi" (lame spelling btw) and propaganda minister comments
Please if you are going to make discrediting comments about me at least TRY to discredit my obviously correct viewpoints too . Saying that the desperate always resort to smearing the opposition :)
Face it you went in with aims . Achieved none of those aims . Pulled out .
You claim victory? Do you really want people to start trolling through threads and posting your original aims as stated by you?
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Edoo
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Edoo Because these forums are pathetic and stupid in the eyes of lots of the community. Goons don't need to post.
Then why do you feel the need to post if you hold that viewpoint? Surely you would not waste such time on something pathetic and stupid?
I enjoy it.
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BlackRain
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Edoo if bob had won, why would they need to exxadurate stats and use propaganda.
Please elaborate "exaggerating" the stats and point me to a post in which this has happened.
And as for the game and "fun". I had a lot laughs while blowing stuff up in S-U, and I certainly like shooting, destroying and winning more than just flying somewhere and getting podded without accomplishing anything - repeatedly. That's not fun, it's just a lame excuse to deny the loss.
There is no reason why you should continue trolling this thread anymore. You are just a bitter fanboi trying your wings at the spinorama roulette, and by the looks of it you're not doing too well. Go away now, please.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Edoo Because these forums are pathetic and stupid in the eyes of lots of the community. Goons don't need to post.
Then why do you feel the need to post if you hold that viewpoint? Surely you would not waste such time on something pathetic and stupid?
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tookar
Amarr Krookid
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:28:00 -
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Who are the other noob corp posters then? I suggest you reread the thread :) If you think this is an inordinate amount of noob corp posters then you havnt read a single other thread on these forums :)
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Edoo
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Edoo Because these forums are pathetic and stupid in the eyes of lots of the community. Goons don't need to post.
Then why do you feel the need to post if you hold that viewpoint? Surely you would not waste such time on something pathetic and stupid?
I enjoy it.
Ah, a masochist .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
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Edoo
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:30:00 -
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about fun, i just followed up another bobs comment that you weren't there for fun, but at least he learned how to probe.
If you don't agree with him fine.
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Edoo
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Ah, a masochist
lol ^^
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BlackRain
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.18 14:32:00 -
[150]
"Followed up" as the devil reads the bible I see. Typical forum sherlock... -------------------
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