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Captain Stupid
Spatium Industries Gatekeepers Universe
152
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Posted - 2014.10.09 06:27:00 -
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Does this mean we would be able to attack Chribbas Veldnaught? |
Tikitina
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
177
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Posted - 2014.10.09 07:16:00 -
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I would say allow caps in HiSec as long as they can't engage in combat, help anyone in combat, or deploy any drones/fighters for any reason.
They can travel, repair ships not in combat and without timers, rep POSes and POS mods, and bowl / warp to zero on gates as the impulse dictates.
Just my thoughts.
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Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
242
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Posted - 2014.10.09 07:17:00 -
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http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif |
Bruce Kemp
IMORTALS
120
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Posted - 2014.10.09 07:29:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Pretty sure the idea was for caps to be able to use null and lowsec gates, not hisec. People can read and write, but they're still mostly illiterate.
Not all of us were lucky enough to receive a good education.
-áIf people played EVE as much as they posted rubbish on these forums, they might enjoy the game.
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Josef Djugashvilis
2578
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Posted - 2014.10.09 07:46:00 -
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Bruce Kemp wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:Pretty sure the idea was for caps to be able to use null and lowsec gates, not hisec. People can read and write, but they're still mostly illiterate.
Not all of us were lucky enough to receive a good education.
Eye no whut u meen - same heer This is not a signature. |
Arline Kley
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
409
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Posted - 2014.10.09 07:50:00 -
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Galphii wrote:CONCORD gets dreadnaughts for faster takedowns
From the smallest frigate, to the largest ship, the take down time is the same. CONCORD do not need dreadnaughts because they have Jovian guns :v Blessed are those that carry the Empress' Light; with it they destroy the shadows |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10737
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Posted - 2014.10.09 07:58:00 -
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I wear pyjama. *yawns*
coffee....... I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Anthar Thebess
764
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Posted - 2014.10.09 08:12:00 -
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Higsec is not ready for this.
Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption Support Needed : Faction Crystal Changes |
Vyl Vit
851
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Posted - 2014.10.09 08:17:00 -
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Another "let's make Hi Sec 'NO' Sec" thread. Kind of makes you wonder why where capitals CAN operate isn't such a fun place to be, and they need to be brought to the place that should NEVER be...kinda. Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
225
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Posted - 2014.10.09 08:27:00 -
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If you want caps in high sec NPC corps need to be closed first. So yeah good idea |
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Dave Stark
7041
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Posted - 2014.10.09 08:55:00 -
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Ka'Narlist wrote:If you want caps in high sec NPC corps need to be closed first. So yeah good idea
that's cute, you think wardeccing some one with a cap won't result in them folding their corp before the 24hrs has passed to make them a legal target. |
brutalbutneutral
Prepare To Meet Thy Doom
15
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Posted - 2014.10.09 09:20:00 -
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Capitals are already allowed in highsec. They are called (Jump)freighters |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
3943
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Posted - 2014.10.09 09:21:00 -
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CCP would not allow Capitals to use their weapons or launch drones in High sec. Travel? Maybe. Ideas to boost fun factor in Planetary Interaction. |
David Therman
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.09 10:14:00 -
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I noticed someone voicing the worry that l4's can be turned into even more of a snooze then they are now... most of them have gate restrictions anyway, if capitals are ever let loose in high, just add gates to the rest of them. Problem solved. |
Maeltstome
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
599
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Posted - 2014.10.09 10:38:00 -
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Miyammato Musashi wrote:Actually, OP is right imho. Caps in highsec is probably going to happen. Think about why caps were kicked out of highsec in the first place: CCP introduced Jumping and in an effort to mitigate power projection, made highsec off-limits to them. I mean, yes there were other considerations, but I think that was the primary one. I've tried tanking CONCORD with a well fit Phoenix... yes it takes longer than a normal ship, but it doesn't make a huge difference. More and more CONCORD shows up. It's expensive. Post jump changes, I really don't see any reason to maintain the cap ban. I would bet that not long after the jump changes are made, CCP allows caps in highsec again. In fact, I would bet CCP is already thinking in that direction. Thus, this is an absolutely valid topic for conversation.
Just my 2 ISK
Concords damage ramps up insanely, thanks to people like COW spider tanking them while ganking high-sec. Ages ago i remember there being a comment that after ~4 seconds of sustained fire, concord can 1-shot a titan.
OP: Yes capitals will come into high sec. Thanks to people who make a living off smashing noobs to peices with 8 year old characters in fully pimped out ships, it's fairly obvious that "bringing in the big guns" is probably the only real way to stop this.
As it stands, high-sec mechanics combined with the limitations of Sub-capital ships make it possible for people to use a small number of specialised ships while sitting on stations/gates to harass people with no way of stopping them (out of corp rep alts for example). Once you bring Triage Carriers and Dreadnauts onto the field, T3/BS EHP starts to become less of an issue. If those same people escalate to a capital engagement, they stand to lose a LOT. |
afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
375
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Posted - 2014.10.09 11:28:00 -
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David Therman wrote:I noticed someone voicing the worry that l4's can be turned into even more of a snooze then they are now... most of them have gate restrictions anyway, if capitals are ever let loose in high, just add gates to the rest of them. Problem solved.
They'd likely not be any better than a proper top tier mission ship if the whole thing is considered.
A bit like the old days uber passive rattlers. All but immortal and hellishly inefficient.
Plus the thing you're all forgetting is caps have a decent training time - what better way to keep a "never leaves high sec" resident to keep playing and "levelling up their raven" than allowing capitals in there? Player retention ftw |
Dave Stark
7041
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Posted - 2014.10.09 12:50:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:CCP would not allow Capitals to use their weapons or launch drones in High sec (lets call it empire ban on capital weaponry). Travel? Maybe. That would make High sec travel in capital fairly risky, as you would be completely defenceless if you dont bring subcaps to defend them there.
why would you bring anything to defend them in high sec, the magical space police are infinitely better at that than an "escort". |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
569
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Posted - 2014.10.09 13:02:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:CCP would not allow Capitals to use their weapons or launch drones in High sec (lets call it empire ban on capital weaponry). Travel? Maybe. That would make High sec travel in capital fairly risky, as you would be completely defenceless if you dont bring subcaps to defend them there. why would you bring anything to defend them in high sec, the magical space police are infinitely better at that than an "escort".
And how long till we get specialised gank groups that can down a capital before Conkordokken? |
Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
342
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Posted - 2014.10.09 13:06:00 -
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Ruskarn Andedare wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:CCP would not allow Capitals to use their weapons or launch drones in High sec (lets call it empire ban on capital weaponry). Travel? Maybe. That would make High sec travel in capital fairly risky, as you would be completely defenceless if you dont bring subcaps to defend them there. why would you bring anything to defend them in high sec, the magical space police are infinitely better at that than an "escort". And how long till we get specialised gank groups that can down a capital before Conkordokken?
I would expect that it would be more likely that annoyance bump-squads and a new "permit" system would happen before that. |
Dave Stark
7041
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Posted - 2014.10.09 13:12:00 -
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Ruskarn Andedare wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:CCP would not allow Capitals to use their weapons or launch drones in High sec (lets call it empire ban on capital weaponry). Travel? Maybe. That would make High sec travel in capital fairly risky, as you would be completely defenceless if you dont bring subcaps to defend them there. why would you bring anything to defend them in high sec, the magical space police are infinitely better at that than an "escort". And how long till we get specialised gank groups that can down a capital before Conkordokken?
you mean people in tornados?
you mean using the same tactic that already makes escorts useless?
about 30 seconds after the patch allowing caps in high sec.
an escort isn't going to help you, regardless of how much ehp you have, when you simply get taken off the field in 1 volley. |
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Kuru
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.10.09 13:37:00 -
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Concord capital ships responding to a ganker...so much want |
Komi Toran
Paragon Trust The Bastion
292
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Posted - 2014.10.09 13:44:00 -
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"As above, capital ships will be able to use stargates, but will for the time being they will still be barred from entering Highsec (that is a larger discussion that we would like to revisit in future)."
I'm a little teapot.
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Kaidu Kahn
POT Corp Semper Ardens Alliance
70
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Posted - 2014.10.09 14:41:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Large POSes were never safe in Hi Sec.
Might as well be. How many have been blown up in hisec, 3 in 7 years? LOL Unless you are in a big alliance and can rally 100+ members to bash a properly fitted large POS you are out of luck. The sheer amount of damage required to kill one cannot be done by smaller corps. If you could bring out 3-4 dreads to help in the process it would make it an achievable goal for just about every corp.
Hisec capital fleet fights would be glorious. (readies ninja loot/salvage ship)
Would could go wrong?
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Snucklefruts
Dirty Stinky Pirates
6
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Posted - 2014.10.09 14:48:00 -
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Kaidu Kahn wrote:Val'Dore wrote:Large POSes were never safe in Hi Sec. Might as well be. How many have been blown up in hisec, 3 in 7 years? LOL Unless you are in a big alliance and can rally 100+ members to bash a properly fitted large POS you are out of luck. The sheer amount of damage required to kill one cannot be done by smaller corps. If you could bring out 3-4 dreads to help in the process it would make it an achievable goal for just about every corp. Hisec capital fleet fights would be glorious. (readies ninja loot/salvage ship) Would could go wrong?
There are rumors that Golden Bars of Soap are found in the strontium bays of properly fitted large towers. Even purely faction defense fit, faction towers will not stop us in our search for cleanliness. |
marVLs
648
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Posted - 2014.10.09 15:14:00 -
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Want it! |
Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2014.10.09 15:30:00 -
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brutalbutneutral wrote:Capitals are already allowed in highsec. They are called (Jump)freighters
And Orca |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1394
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Posted - 2014.10.09 16:09:00 -
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If Concord and Local get removed from the game then - YES to capitals in highsec. TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Tengu Grib
Happy Fun times
453
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Posted - 2014.10.09 16:29:00 -
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Kuru wrote:Concord capital ships responding to a ganker...so much want As a ganker I'd love to watch my ship get blown sky high by Concorde Dreads. Tengu Grib> I read that as "Suddenly Noobships" and it made me want to hot drop someone with noobships. Buhhdust Princess> You have set us a challenge..We will try and do it!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeBnYi5bG0&feature=youtu.be |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun times
453
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Posted - 2014.10.09 16:31:00 -
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Kaidu Kahn wrote:Val'Dore wrote:Large POSes were never safe in Hi Sec. Might as well be. How many have been blown up in hisec, 3 in 7 years? LOL Unless you are in a big alliance and can rally 100+ members to bash a properly fitted large POS you are out of luck. The sheer amount of damage required to kill one cannot be done by smaller corps. If you could bring out 3-4 dreads to help in the process it would make it an achievable goal for just about every corp. Hisec capital fleet fights would be glorious. (readies ninja loot/salvage ship) Would could go wrong?
You know not of what you speak. You should stop while you still only look silly. This is not meant to be mean, but is legitimate advice. Tengu Grib> I read that as "Suddenly Noobships" and it made me want to hot drop someone with noobships. Buhhdust Princess> You have set us a challenge..We will try and do it!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeBnYi5bG0&feature=youtu.be |
Paranoid Loyd
2168
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Posted - 2014.10.09 16:35:00 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Kaidu Kahn wrote:Val'Dore wrote:Large POSes were never safe in Hi Sec. Might as well be. How many have been blown up in hisec, 3 in 7 years? LOL Unless you are in a big alliance and can rally 100+ members to bash a properly fitted large POS you are out of luck. The sheer amount of damage required to kill one cannot be done by smaller corps. If you could bring out 3-4 dreads to help in the process it would make it an achievable goal for just about every corp. Hisec capital fleet fights would be glorious. (readies ninja loot/salvage ship) Would could go wrong? You know not of what you speak. You should stop while you still only look silly. This is not meant to be mean, but is legitimate advice.
Heh, three this month, and its the 9th. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
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