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Guillome Renard
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2014.10.10 15:10:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote: However, maybe when we have more wormhole based storyline (can't really comment on what's happening until it does >_<) we'll look at bringing it to a close or working on it further.
Pardon me but... are you not aware that the Sleepers - whose behavior the empires are concerned with - live in Anoikis?
Are you not aware that the blue loot that they drop is, therefore, sourced in 'wormhole' space?
You have wormhole based storyline in progress: Sleeper behavior has shifted and people want to know why.
A'J was also about more than just wormhole space, IIRC. There was research on all sorts of things going on there.
There is a bounty of possibility space here that you could be playing in. I'll wait for your big reveal to discuss the ways in which this is so; I believe the point will be more tangible when I can work with much closer to the amount of information you are right now.
CCP Falcon wrote:No arc that's unfinished in EVE is "gone for good". We just pick them up again and run with them when it makes sense in the narrative to do so.
Thank you for the (sort of) clarification, then. Aside from my observations above, this is encouraging.
As an aside: I see the numbers were corrected. As soon as I get home this morning I will update my own. http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501 |
Guillome Renard
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
64
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Posted - 2014.10.10 17:25:00 -
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Update is in, 13,082 is our current total, putting us 49 pts away from beating Minmatar. http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501 |
Guillome Renard
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
67
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Posted - 2014.10.12 15:53:00 -
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Update is in for the 12th (actually those numbers are from the 11th, I'm away from my desk today and most of tomorrow). We've fallen behind a little bit, but we're still showing competitively at 106,505. http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501 |
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CCP Falcon
9164
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:29:00 -
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Guillome Renard wrote:Pardon me but... are you not aware that the Sleepers - whose behavior the empires are concerned with - live in Anoikis?
Yes, I am aware. CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3 |
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
934
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Posted - 2014.10.12 21:00:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Guillome Renard wrote:Pardon me but... are you not aware that the Sleepers - whose behavior the empires are concerned with - live in Anoikis? Yes, I am aware.
Ohh, so more WH lore stuff is coming them? (hopefully) A summary of the ancient rcivilizations of New Eden Empires seek capsuleer assistance in Sleeper research! Updated research points on 12 October |
Zappity
SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart.
1442
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Posted - 2014.10.13 00:33:00 -
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I've never had much interest in RP but this is awesome. I hope you pull it off and CCP does something good about it. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Darren Fox
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
58
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Posted - 2014.10.13 11:43:00 -
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Great effort, support sent. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2907
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:10:00 -
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It occurred to me that although you have less than any given faction, you do have enough to do one odd thing:
Donate enough to three factions that all four have exactly the same amount. You would have to make some sort of deal where you get the final numbers after the competition ends, than make one final donation of your own, in just the right amounts, to equalize everyone. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Guillome Renard
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
70
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:26:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:It occurred to me that although you have less than any given faction, you do have enough to do one odd thing:
Donate enough to three factions that all four have exactly the same amount. You would have to make some sort of deal where you get the final numbers after the competition ends, than make one final donation of your own, in just the right amounts, to equalize everyone.
I'd thought about that, or simply playing kingmaker.
Sadly, there was no warning, so there was no time to do anything but push hard on what I thought of halfway through the first day. To ensure that I got good numbers I offered folks the promise that they'd get their blue loot (or iSK) back, should I fail to get CCP involved. Since that's happened, (and since we consistently trail), this'll have to remain an interesting side show.
I don't have new numbers right now because I'm away from my desk. I'll put 'em up in several hours, though. http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501 |
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
6560
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Posted - 2014.10.13 15:27:00 -
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I have more contracts for you.
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
934
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Posted - 2014.10.13 20:13:00 -
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Curious about the update for the independants.
This is the current tally of the Empires:
- Caldari - 311,249
- Minmatar - 167,726
- Amarr - 155,789
- Gallente - 154,525
Caldari took a huge leap forward. Minmatar have progressed as well and are now second place! Amarr on the other hand have all but dropped silent... Only moving up minimally & getting caught up by the others. A summary of the ancient rcivilizations of New Eden Empires seek capsuleer assistance in Sleeper research! Updated research points on 13 October |
Guillome Renard
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
74
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Posted - 2014.10.14 02:59:00 -
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255,626 as of 2AM EVE Time, 10/14.
Sorry for the delay, I have a /nasty/ head cold right now.
This means that we would be in 2nd place, were we considered to be in the running, a scant 56k pts behind Caldari.
The punchline is that this is EXCLUDING the ISK donations received, which - @50,000ISK/pt would cut that lead in half.
This is beyond my expectations for this campaign. Well beyond it.
The donations have come from 35 unique individuals. Some individuals have donated multiple times. The largest single donation (and largest total) is 101,635. The smallest is 5pts + a bottle of spirits (cheers).
There's 10 hours left, so we'll see if we get a last minute rush, but I'm super pleased with how this went.
Once again: unless CCP yanks the blue loot from me, it will be liquidated and returned ask ISK unless you've given me license to not return it, or asked for the blue loot back as blue loot.
It'll take me a few days (read: couple of weeks, if I'm honest) to get everything tallied, and put away, and then I still have to figure out how to properly honor you all. You have until I've processed your return to tell me how you'd like it to come: silence = ISK.
http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501 |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10926
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Posted - 2014.10.14 10:23:00 -
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Caldari ftw. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Guillome Renard
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
76
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:52:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Caldari ftw.
Shouldn't you be getting your thrasher popped by my Ares in Hek? ;)
IN OTHER NEWS:
Our final tally is 261,832 + 1.27B ISK (+~25,400 pts = 287,232 final tally, all-in) from 39 individual donors!
Based on CCP's language that there was a last minute surge (a wise strategy given the format of the competition) I expect we got left in the dust, but the fact remains: we held our own very nicely against some substantial disadvantages:
- When CCP sends a message, EVERYONE IN EVE gets it. When I send a message, I get a few hundred views.
- When you donate to CCP, you /know/ what you're getting. When you donate to me, I could be a scammer and run off with the ISK.
- CCP made it pretty clear* from the word go that this campaign would not be considered a legitimate contender, so folks who donated here did so purely as a demonstration, at personal risk, with basically zero hope of official reward.
- CCP started 12 hours ahead of me, and had a plan going in. I had to make this up as I went.
That said, we did have some advantages over CCP, which I should mention as well:
- You donate to CCP for almost assuredly no reward unless you're a major market mogul. Every donation to my campaign will be acknowledged.
- EVE Players love to punk The Man(tm), love a good rabble-rouse, and love underdogs.
- My donors will be getting their stuff or the ISK value of it back, whereas donations to CCP /definitely/ go into a black hole.
Despite all this, 39 brave souls risked ISK and dignity to stand for greater player influence and capsuleers thumbing their nose at the four empires. I suspect nothing will come of it, given the statements made by CCP Fozzie and CCP Falcon. I'll be making one last post, after the smoke has cleared and they've done their big reveal, commenting on how I think they could've better used this intitiative to involve a broader base of players and how they can be better prepared for player-initiated shenanigans in the future.
* While I feel very strongly that CCP missed an opportunity here, if you're not going to capitalize on that the least you can do is say so upfront, so kudos to CCP Fozzie and CCP Falcon for being immediately responsive and up-front about what they were willing to commit to. Keep up the good work guys. http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501 |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10941
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Posted - 2014.10.14 15:00:00 -
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Is it one of those "killmails" where the faction police actually did the work?
Okay, so you are one of those who are happy about literally everything as long as it slightly, remotely, maybe is spinnable into an achievement.
Thanks. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Guillome Renard
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
76
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Posted - 2014.10.14 15:01:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Is it one of those "killmails" where the faction police actually did the work?
How's that poem go? "For want of a nail the battle was lost?" http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501 |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10941
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Posted - 2014.10.14 15:05:00 -
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Guillome Renard wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Is it one of those "killmails" where the faction police actually did the work?
How's that poem go? "For want of a nail the battle was lost?" I edited the post above and it hits the nail on the head.
You can't annoy me with your delusions, sorry.
I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
306
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Posted - 2014.10.14 15:09:00 -
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Considering how paranoid people can be in EVE, congrats on your campaign, OP.
Even though I personally preferred to give my meager effort of a couple hundred points to Gallente, it's nice to see the independent effort going out strong. |
Guillome Renard
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
76
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Posted - 2014.10.14 15:18:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:[ You can't annoy me with your delusions, sorry.
And you can't touch me with yours. http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501 |
Billy Hix
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
172
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Posted - 2014.10.14 18:55:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Jumping in for a bit of devil's advocacy. What do you (and I don't just mean Stan here) think makes an event successful?
A good event is one people enjoy while taking part.
A FANTASTIC even is one that people still talk about fondly years later.
I never took part in AJ, but can you remember a CCP run event that people still talk about now as fondly as AJ? |
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
995
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Posted - 2014.10.14 19:10:27 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:
Jumping in for a bit of devil's advocacy. What do you (and I don't just mean Stan here) think makes an event successful?
Often mentions (indirect or direct) in news game artickes helps alot. By example *capsuleers intervened in this operation, or helped with gathering that*
In this research race by example, a mention that a group of capsuleers under the lead of Guillome Renard tried to start an independant research program, to claim the spoils of new technology for themselves.
Aurora Project expands the Arcology
The result of the YC116 Sleeper data research race: Tech 3 Destroyers!
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Cahir Ceallach
Blok Ekipa Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
4
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Posted - 2014.10.15 07:12:47 -
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Nice event, its good to EVE when players push foward storyline ;) |
Guillome Renard
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
89
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Posted - 2014.10.15 17:11:13 -
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Due to financial activity in my wallet getting too complicated to work with (I shouldn't have done this on my main), I had to close my positions in relations to this campaign early. I have returned all outstanding donations as ISK. Everyone who donated blue loot received 50k per NNA and 200k per SDL (50k per point), except for two donors who requested blue loot back, ahead of time.
Thank you to all who supported this campaign. Watch this space after the EVE Vegas keynote for analysis, stats, etc.
http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501
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Okromis Thara
Deadspace Operations Conglomerate U-S-A-T-O
0
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Posted - 2014.10.15 18:35:31 -
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Guillome Renard wrote:Due to financial activity in my wallet getting too complicated to work with (I shouldn't have done this on my main), I had to close my positions in relations to this campaign early. I have returned all outstanding donations as ISK. Everyone who donated blue loot received 50k per NNA and 200k per SDL (50k per point), except for two donors who requested blue loot back, ahead of time.
Thank you to all who supported this campaign. Watch this space after the EVE Vegas keynote for analysis, stats, etc.
Sorry, I was really excited looking at the numbers and may have misunderstood. Have you pulled out of this endeavor? Also, thank you for your quick return of ISK.
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Guillome Renard
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
89
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Posted - 2014.10.15 18:39:53 -
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Okromis Thara wrote:Guillome Renard wrote:Due to financial activity in my wallet getting too complicated to work with (I shouldn't have done this on my main), I had to close my positions in relations to this campaign early. I have returned all outstanding donations as ISK. Everyone who donated blue loot received 50k per NNA and 200k per SDL (50k per point), except for two donors who requested blue loot back, ahead of time.
Thank you to all who supported this campaign. Watch this space after the EVE Vegas keynote for analysis, stats, etc. Sorry, I was really excited looking at the numbers and may have misunderstood. Have you pulled out of this endeavor? Also, thank you for your quick return of ISK.
No, we did not pull out. We successfully completed our campaign. The polls closed, the votes have been tallied. CCP was never - and they made this clear from day 1 - going to incorporate my drive as a legitimate contender in the race. This was a protest movement, a show of support for player-driven stuff, and a statement against the same old 'four empires' choices.
Since CCP was never going to do anything with your donations to me, I had planned from the get-go to return the donations to you all. I was going to wait until after the announcement, but I have records of who donated what and there wasn't any additional reason to delay (plus I had a nice kspace exit from my wormhole chain to work with, strike while the iron's hot).
http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501
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Okromis Thara
Deadspace Operations Conglomerate U-S-A-T-O
0
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Posted - 2014.10.15 18:45:29 -
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Guillome Renard wrote:
No, we did not pull out. We successfully completed our campaign. The polls closed, the votes have been tallied. CCP was never - and they made this clear from day 1 - going to incorporate my drive as a legitimate contender in the race. This was a protest movement, a show of support for player-driven stuff, and a statement against the same old 'four empires' choices.
Since CCP was never going to do anything with your donations to me, I had planned from the get-go to return the donations to you all. I was going to wait until after the announcement, but I have records of who donated what and there wasn't any additional reason to delay (plus I had a nice kspace exit from my wormhole chain to work with, strike while the iron's hot).
That's a terrible shame, you made quite the tally. I salute your efforts no matter what the inevitable consequences were to be. I was glad to be a part of it as well, no matter how small. |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
951
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:12:00 -
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Congratulations in getting mentioned on the Las Vegas stream, giving the result of the research race! Here's the image, showing all 5 contestants for the research race & the total points collected: Eve Vegas research race keynote image
I also like to thank the CCP devs who honored Guillome Renard's effort & that of his supporters by including their tally into the final result!
With all that is said: it's unveiled what we were donating for: Tech 3 destroyers! The winning faction (Amarr) resleases theirs first, followed by Minmatar, Caldari and then finally the Gallente (who never seemed to be able to keep up with the others...)
You can read more about it here: 'The result of the YC116 Sleeper data research race!' where I give an overview of the final research tally & all we know about the Tech 3 destroyers for now, released on the Vegas Stream. The result of the YC116 Sleeper data research race! A summary of the ancient civilizations of New Eden |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
995
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Posted - 2014.10.19 08:12:13 -
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Congratulations in getting mentioned on the Las Vegas stream, giving the result of the research race! Here's the image, showing all 5 contestants for the research race & the total points collected: Eve Vegas research race keynote image
I also like to thank the CCP devs who honored Guillome Renard's effort & that of his supporters by including their tally into the final result!
With all that is said: it's unveiled what we were donating for: Tech 3 destroyers! The winning faction (Amarr) releases theirs first, followed by Minmatar, Caldari and then finally the Gallente (who never seemed to be able to keep up with the others...)
You can read more about it here: 'The result of the YC116 Sleeper data research race!' where I give an overview of the final research tally & all we know about the Tech 3 destroyers for now, released on the Vegas Stream.
Aurora Project expands the Arcology
The result of the YC116 Sleeper data research race: Tech 3 Destroyers!
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
11087
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Posted - 2014.10.19 20:43:00 -
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Gallente, dear Jandrice .... .... like to finish last. ;) I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked, with sparkles of cinnamon on my skin. You are my content, my shiny content - you make me haaappy, when skies are greeeeyyy - you'll never know dear, how much I loooooove you - don't you take my content away! |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
11142
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Posted - 2014.10.19 20:43:25 -
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Gallente, dear Jandice .... .... like to finish last. ;)
Sparkles of cinnamon ...
... surrounded by hot chocolate ............ ;)
I can see you reading this ... and you like it!
I saw a man upon the stair, a little man who wasn't there
I saw the man again today ... Geee, I wished he'd go away.
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