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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:17:00 -
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Tahm Cruise wrote:J'Poll wrote:Hanz Hrible wrote: So I've been in the game for about a month and I have made several observations on the game from a completely fresh set of eyes on the game..
A new player wanting to explore, trade, or mine is highsec is completely free to do so- But beware joining a player corp- because you'll likely get war dec'd by a corp such as the Marmite Collective and you'll be shut down financially unless your corp pays them for surrender. So be prepared to hire a freight company to move your stuff for you.
A new player may join a powerful nullsec alliance and have Sov space to play in- But don't go exploring, because you'll be locked down by a warp disruption bubble by a player that has a 20million SP on you and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
A new player is free to make isk through faction warfare- But that new player likely won't have the DPS for the faction spawns on the complexes- and again, if another player shows up, don't expect a fair fight, because that player will not be a fellow newbro and the fight will be anything but balanced.
I really enjoy how deep and immersive the game is, with so many options- I do, but the way this game seems to be played is "hide in the shadows until you think you can sucker punch a newbro, and run away if anything else shows up" 1. Then join a proper corp. I know plenty of corps who hardly get wardecced. Those that get wardecced by Marmite or anybody else made themselfs targets. 2. Then learn the basics on null-sec movement and you wouldn't care about bubbles anymore (tacs, no straight warps, intel, jump bridges). 3. Uhm, defensive plexes don't require shooting, you can D-scan and see others incoming.....] * I know a guy who was less then 2 weeks old when she went to low-sec and started fighting old vets (of which one of them was in a channel with me and her and he was very very impressed by the new player) So...fail + fail + fail = meh, let's keep it civil, but let's just say that none of your points hold anything of value. Quote:I'm having fun doing what I do, but it just seems like I'm limited to running with fleets in nullsec since I have no way to defend myself from rudes that have been playing the game for years and enjoy picking on people who've barely started. Yes you have, intel and knowledge (the last one is important).... If you see something on D-scan that you can't take...warp out. All points you have pointed out have NOTHING to do with being new, it has to do with the choices and attitude of the PLAYER behind the character. Way to go J'Poll! Classic anti social behaviour when some new guy comes around to explain what he feels is lacking in EVE. THERE IS NO PROBLEM. Right..
The problem is player mentality, there's not much wrong with the game itself. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Prince Kobol
2204
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:18:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:eve has a higher wash out rate than special forces yet continues to grow. it had a few hiccups recently, but most of the lost subs were part of the "boomers" we saw an influx of around 2011ish.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6207
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:18:00 -
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Actually what am I saying? There's a lot wrong with this game, but everything the OP listed are state of mind issues & not actual issues that exist outside of his own mind. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
436
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:20:00 -
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I dont think new players leave because they only have 21 days to decide.
I also dont think new players leave cos they lose stuff or get blown up.
I dont think any of this is true because every "old" player (someone who obviously stayed and subbed) was once... a new player.
People that stay are people that make due with what they have and plan on what to get.
The rest just wither and die
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4535
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:21:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Xuixien wrote:eve has a higher wash out rate than special forces yet continues to grow. it had a few hiccups recently, but most of the lost subs were part of the "boomers" we saw an influx of around 2011ish. Continues to grow.. you sure about that one?
And you do know that PCU =/= amount of subscriptions.
As long as amount of subscriptions rises...EVE grows. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
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Prince Kobol
2204
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:24:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Xuixien wrote:eve has a higher wash out rate than special forces yet continues to grow. it had a few hiccups recently, but most of the lost subs were part of the "boomers" we saw an influx of around 2011ish. Continues to grow.. you sure about that one? And you do know that PCU =/= amount of subscriptions. As long as amount of subscriptions rises...EVE grows.
At any point did I mention the PCU count?
Please show everybody the current subscription count and how it has risen the last 12 months.
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Barton Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
72
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:33:00 -
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Nice thought, not much effort put into finding good reasons, prepare to be roflstomped by people not knowing the difference between "anyone" and "everyone", but it seems that it is already happening, so nvm, carry on... |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
1379
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:41:00 -
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Eve is supposed to be hard. All of the things that you listed are legitimate challenges that most new players can be expected to face. But the thing is - that's sort of the idea. It's by design that as soon as your tutorial is finished, you are supposed to be thrust into a cold, harsh universe to succeed or fail by your wits.
All of those bullet points that you mentioned are real challenges that newbros have to learn to deal with, as the developers intended. And all of them can be avoided, overcome, or exploited by clever newbros who educate themselves. You should get comfortable with losing ships, do your homework, look for the hidden opportunities in every apparent crisis, and fly boldly.
That, and also post with your main, and never bring your tears to the forums again. www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8294
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:48:00 -
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Op could have just linked this and not bothered with the rest. It's hard to not notice how EVERY time this topic comes up it's from the 'solo' point of view. Newsflash, you aren't SUPPOED to be able to do much at the beginning of any good game, you grow into it in time.
The problem isn't the game (10s of thousands of us survived a much harsher new player experience years ago), it's the lack of will, creativity and self awareness on the part of many 'new players'. They have terribly bad expectations (like being able to 'do all the things' after only being a month old) which leads to clouded judgements about every thing.
How many times have we seen (or been the ) people who tried the game, didn't like it, only to come back later with fresh more mature and more patient eyes and fall in love with it? |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8294
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:53:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:Eve is supposed to be hard. All of the things that you listed are legitimate challenges that most new players can be expected to face. But the thing is - that's sort of the idea. It's by design that as soon as your tutorial is finished, you are supposed to be thrust into a cold, harsh universe to succeed or fail by your wits.
All of those bullet points that you mentioned are real challenges that newbros have to learn to deal with, as the developers intended. And all of them can be avoided, overcome, or exploited by clever newbros who educate themselves. You should get comfortable with losing ships, do your homework, look for the hidden opportunities in every apparent crisis, and fly boldly.
That, and also post with your main, and never bring your tears to the forums again.
Well said, glad i said it too
I tend to think there are 2 kinds of people in games, the minority that not only likes a challenge, but needs one, and the majority that wants everything set out in from of them like a buffet so that their hardest choice is what to consume 1st. That's why most of the MMO game making industry is about making thempark games and why so many EVE (and other niche sandbox) game players are so incompatible with most non-niche MMO games.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4278
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:00:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:If you know where to looks Newbies don't know where to look. They are newbies. Most EVE players have no interest in telling newbies where to look, only in laughing at them because they did it wrong, asking for their stuff when they leave, and trolling them for the same.
The old "if you can't use your brain you can't play eve snarf snarf" stuff that get's spouted all the time is complete nonsense. At some point you have to look at the system and ask yourself if it's really working well enough. If so many people have trouble gaining traction in EVE, it seems to me the likely problem is EVE, not the players. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Hanz Hrible
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:10:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:Eve is supposed to be hard. All of the things that you listed are legitimate challenges that most new players can be expected to face. But the thing is - that's sort of the idea. It's by design that as soon as your tutorial is finished, you are supposed to be thrust into a cold, harsh universe to succeed or fail by your wits.
All of those bullet points that you mentioned are real challenges that newbros have to learn to deal with, as the developers intended. And all of them can be avoided, overcome, or exploited by clever newbros who educate themselves. You should get comfortable with losing ships, do your homework, look for the hidden opportunities in every apparent crisis, and fly boldly.
That, and also post with your main, and never bring your tears to the forums again.
Tears?! What tears? There are no tears here- only valid reasons that new players get frustrated with the game- I didn't post some "boohoo" story about how I took my last 50mil isk and fitted a drake and proceed to challenge nullsec with it within my first 2 weeks of starting. No, I took the advice of the veteran players, I stick with low value ships, I'm training core skills, I'm NOT a solo player- I'm constantly polling my alliance for adventures. |
Prince Kobol
2204
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:12:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:J'Poll wrote:If you know where to looks Newbies don't know where to look. They are newbies. Most EVE players have no interest in telling newbies where to look, only in laughing at them because they did it wrong, asking for their stuff when they leave, and trolling them for the same. The old "if you can't use your brain you can't play eve snarf snarf" stuff that get's spouted all the time is complete nonsense. At some point you have to look at the system and ask yourself if it's really working well enough. If so many people have trouble gaining traction in EVE, it seems to me the likely problem is EVE, not the players.
I don't often agree with Lucas but he does have a point.
Eve is probably one of the most complex MMO's on the market.. heck ever released, of course new players to the game are going to find life difficult when first starting out.
Like Lucas has said, if so many people who try Eve find life difficult to begin with then perhaps the problem is with Eve.
Also it doesn't help that the vast majority of HS corps are run by people who are clueless. I am not having a go at High Sec, just that any idiot can create a corp and then spew utter garbage which really doesn't help with new player retention as I suspect most new players first player corp will be based in High sec.
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R3DRUM
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:19:00 -
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steep learning curve. new players come here and get trolled,ganked,scammed right out of the gate. content and community is not all that great. If eve was a community it would be the ghetto. space sims are not all that hot. hell last i heard even wow is free now. I think people are done with grinding and moving toward tablets and cellphone games that are quick and easy |
Paranoid Loyd
1969
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:22:00 -
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I call BS you are not new, the wording of your posts are not the words of someone who has been playing for one month. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Priscilla Project
Custom Clothing Productions
73
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:25:00 -
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Really makes me wonder how I managed to play this game with skipping the tutorials completely ... ... oh no wait, I did the first one and decided that it's a bullshit way starting the game.
And I wonder how everyone else who deliberately went solo managed to learn how to play it.
Fact of the matter is that there are people who drop out for a reason ... ... and blaming the NPE for it only makes limited sense ... ... simply because obviously there are enough smart enough people around who didn't drop out.
One has to ask himself what the reason is that some people aren't capable enough.
Learning EVE involves effort. If people aren't cut for it ... they leave.
Of course we need new players ... but at what cost?
If they can't handle it ... what does it tell about them?
Do we really want these kind of people?
I certainly don't think so.
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Prince Kobol
2204
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:25:00 -
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The problem as I see it is no matter what CCP does with the NPE, nothing will ever change as the only real way of learning how to play Eve is by playing Eve with other players.
The most important moment of a new players life in Eve is when they choose their first corp. I think this is probably the most important deciding factor on whether a person stays or leaves Eve.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4535
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:25:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:J'Poll wrote:If you know where to looks Newbies don't know where to look. They are newbies. Most EVE players have no interest in telling newbies where to look, only in laughing at them because they did it wrong, asking for their stuff when they leave, and trolling them for the same.
Now you are talking just BS.
Please, go over to the NCQA forums, see how many old guys like to help new players.
I also wonder if you ever noticed the amount of vets hanging around in the help chats or the community channels that are there to assist new players (basically a help chat without the spam).
Please, before you make any claims, make sure you know your facts as you are now just spamming untrue stuff on the forums. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Prince Kobol
2204
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:27:00 -
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Priscilla Project wrote:Really makes me wonder how I managed to play this game with skipping the tutorials completely ... ... oh no wait, I did the first one and decided that it's a bullshit way starting the game.
And I wonder how everyone else who deliberately went solo managed to learn how to play it.
Fact of the matter is that there are people who drop out for a reason ... ... and blaming the NPE for it only makes limited sense ... ... simply because obviously there are enough smart enough people around who didn't drop out.
One has to ask himself what the reason is that some people aren't capable enough.
Learning EVE involves effort. If people aren't cut for it ... they leave.
Of course we need new players ... but at what cost?
If they can't handle it ... what does it tell about them?
Do we really want these kind of people?
I certainly don't think so.
And I doubt that the OP really is a new player anyway.
Thanks for making Lucas's point.
I skipped the NPE both tries I tried Eve. The only reason I stuck around after the second attempt was because I got lucky and found a corp with some really good guys. |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4535
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:29:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote: Like Lucas has said, if so many people who try Eve find life difficult to begin with then perhaps the problem is with Eve.
No it means they aren't the target audience that CCP is building their game for.
At best it means that CCP is advertizing the game in the wrong channels.
Quote:Also it doesn't help that the vast majority of HS corps are run by people who are clueless.
And how is that the games fault, game don't forces you to make your own corp, nor does it force you to join that corp.
btw, null-sec corp have just as bad CEOs. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4535
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:33:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:The problem as I see it is no matter what CCP does with the NPE, nothing will ever change as the only real way of learning how to play Eve is by playing Eve with other players.
The most important moment of a new players life in Eve is when they choose their first corp. I think this is probably the most important deciding factor on whether a person stays or leaves Eve.
And gues what, there is a GREAT guide written by a fellow veteran to assist you with that.
Said veteran also made a great guide on what options you have if you want to leave that NPC starter corp.
But it requires that a new player to open a forums, go to the new player section and then click a sticky. If they are too lazy / stupid to do that, that's their fault, not the game. CCP can never patch laziness nor stupidity out of the game. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
R3DRUM
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:36:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:The problem as I see it is no matter what CCP does with the NPE, nothing will ever change as the only real way of learning how to play Eve is by playing Eve with other players.
The most important moment of a new players life in Eve is when they choose their first corp. I think this is probably the most important deciding factor on whether a person stays or leaves Eve.
why yes it might be easier with a group its not necessary i was actually looking for a nice space sim. I came from star wars galaxies. I went through all the tuts even that cog or wheel one that confused everyone. I soloed for a long while before i joined my first corp eve uni to start to expand my knowledge and get into pvp as i was bored with thew same grind as every mmo. all mmos u get bored with grinding and get into pvp however u have to grind to pvp so its a endless cycle that people get tired of maybe if mmo's made things easier and tried to stop making people play forever it might be more fun and keep people longer. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8297
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:37:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:J'Poll wrote:If you know where to looks Newbies don't know where to look. They are newbies. Most EVE players have no interest in telling newbies where to look, only in laughing at them because they did it wrong, asking for their stuff when they leave, and trolling them for the same. The old "if you can't use your brain you can't play eve snarf snarf" stuff that get's spouted all the time is complete nonsense. At some point you have to look at the system and ask yourself if it's really working well enough. If so many people have trouble gaining traction in EVE, it seems to me the likely problem is EVE, not the players.
Not at all, you're looking at it backwards. The fact that EVE gives so many people 'trouble' is a sign of it working well because the experience is then more valuable to the relative few that can figure things out.
McDonalds has more customers and makes WAY more money than the company that owns Spago, that doesn't make McDonalds food better. And it's not all about money either, even for companies, if it was, Spago would have a Dollar Menu.
Some people (*surreptitiously looks at Lucas Kell*) think EVE should be like McDonalds (catering to everyone in fine lowest common denominator fashion), I think many of us appreciate that it is indeed Spago and thus isn't for everyone (because you're poor and need that Dollar menu).
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Hanz Hrible
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:38:00 -
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It's not the game's fault- and it's not CCPs fault- The base of my frustration is with the cold playerbase- as I've observed in this thread alone- people just don't care about the experience a new player has- They don't care if they just blapped a person who was bright eyed and new to the game in their very first T1 destroyer that took them a week to save the 1 million isk to save for, they don't care if new players are having fun- No, not all players have this mindset, but there appears to be a very outspoken few who simply, don't care- and go further to gloat at the discomfort of new players.
YES I truly am a very new and very fresh player, under 1.5million SP- The reason I know about the things I've been writing about? Because A) The first corp I joined got war dec'd by Marmite and I wasn't left with any explination- so I had to google it for myself.. and B) I'm in prominent Sov Space alliance now with their own wikis and guides along with specialized new player training. |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2771
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:42:00 -
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WTF should I care about your experience of a game? I care about my experience. Invalid signature format |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6209
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:42:00 -
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Hanz Hrible wrote:It's not the game's fault- and it's not CCPs fault- The base of my frustration is with the cold playerbase- as I've observed in this thread alone- people just don't care about the experience a new player has- They don't care if they just blapped a person who was bright eyed and new to the game in their very first T1 destroyer that took them a week to save the 1 million isk to save for, they don't care if new players are having fun- No, not all players have this mindset, but there appears to be a very outspoken few who simply, don't care- and go further to gloat at the discomfort of new players.
YES I truly am a very new and very fresh player, under 1.5million SP- The reason I know about the things I've been writing about? Because A) The first corp I joined got war dec'd by Marmite and I wasn't left with any explination- so I had to google it for myself.. and B) I'm in prominent Sov Space alliance now with their own wikis and guides along with new player training.
All of your perceived issues are a result of your mindset & belief that people should go out of their way to help you just in case you're some random new guy that is actually prepared to listen & take advice as opposed to what normally happens. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Deck Cadelanne
Exigent Circumstances CAStabouts
38
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:43:00 -
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Hanz Hrible wrote:It's not the game's fault- and it's not CCPs fault- The base of my frustration is with the cold playerbase- as I've observed in this thread alone- people just don't care about the experience a new player has- They don't care if they just blapped a person who was bright eyed and new to the game in their very first T1 destroyer that took them a week to save the 1 million isk to save for, they don't care if new players are having fun- No, not all players have this mindset, but there appears to be a very outspoken few who simply, don't care- and go further to gloat at the discomfort of new players.
YES I truly am a very new and very fresh player, under 1.5million SP- The reason I know about the things I've been writing about? Because A) The first corp I joined got war dec'd by Marmite and I wasn't left with any explination- so I had to google it for myself.. and B) I'm in prominent Sov Space alliance now with their own wikis and guides along with new player training.
First week in EVE got ganked and scammed by "helpful" players who were trolling the new player channel. If I hadn't lucked out and also met a mentor same week, who eventually introduced me to other awesome players in the wider community, I probably would have said "This is a game for neckbeard a**holes only" and left before I subbed.
So yes, it is a player mindset issue. The game allows and even encourages types of behaviour that other MMO's might prohibit.
So what would you do about it? How would you improve the NPE such that the conversion rate of trial-to-subscription went up and the playerbase continued to grow? How would you do that without fundamentally changing the very aspects of sandbox gaming that make EVE so awesome? |
Prince Kobol
2204
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:45:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:J'Poll wrote:If you know where to looks Newbies don't know where to look. They are newbies. Most EVE players have no interest in telling newbies where to look, only in laughing at them because they did it wrong, asking for their stuff when they leave, and trolling them for the same. The old "if you can't use your brain you can't play eve snarf snarf" stuff that get's spouted all the time is complete nonsense. At some point you have to look at the system and ask yourself if it's really working well enough. If so many people have trouble gaining traction in EVE, it seems to me the likely problem is EVE, not the players. Not at all, you're looking at it backwards. The fact that EVE gives so many people 'trouble' is a sign of it working well because the experience is then more valuable to the relative few that can figure things out. McDonalds has more customers and makes WAY more money than the company that owns Spago, that doesn't make McDonalds food better. And it's not all about money either, even for companies, if it was, Spago would have a Dollar Menu. Some people (*surreptitiously looks at Lucas Kell*) think EVE should be like McDonalds (catering to everyone in fine lowest common denominator fashion), I think many of us appreciate that it is indeed Spago and thus isn't for everyone (because you're poor and need that Dollar menu).
Damn right Eve should not be for everybody to be honest it is an impossible job anyway, however what what we should not do is say **** back to WoW because somebody is having new is having difficulty understanding the game.
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Hanz Hrible
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:46:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Hanz Hrible wrote:It's not the game's fault- and it's not CCPs fault- The base of my frustration is with the cold playerbase- as I've observed in this thread alone- people just don't care about the experience a new player has- They don't care if they just blapped a person who was bright eyed and new to the game in their very first T1 destroyer that took them a week to save the 1 million isk to save for, they don't care if new players are having fun- No, not all players have this mindset, but there appears to be a very outspoken few who simply, don't care- and go further to gloat at the discomfort of new players.
YES I truly am a very new and very fresh player, under 1.5million SP- The reason I know about the things I've been writing about? Because A) The first corp I joined got war dec'd by Marmite and I wasn't left with any explination- so I had to google it for myself.. and B) I'm in prominent Sov Space alliance now with their own wikis and guides along with new player training. All of your perceived issues are a result of your mindset & belief that people should go out of their way to help you just in case you're some random new guy that is actually prepared to listen & take advice as opposed to what normally happens.
There's a difference between going "out of your way" to help some new person and not scamming them, ganking them, trolling them, and just being generally mean to them for no good reason. |
Deck Cadelanne
Exigent Circumstances CAStabouts
38
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:52:00 -
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Hanz Hrible wrote:
There's a difference between going "out of your way" to help some new person and not scamming them, ganking them, trolling them, and just being generally mean to them for no good reason.
I understand where you are coming from, but these are all part of the game. If you come expecting something else, one could argue that you are looking for a different game.
Perhaps more could be done to educate new players on these aspects from the start, maybe even as part of the tutorial. Perhaps that would improve the NPE without nerfing the sandbox. Just a thought. |
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