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Edau Skir
Walls of Industry
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:50:00 -
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So it's known that the Noctis is the ship for salvaging, and is widely used. However, there are no actual salvaging bonuses on the ship, just Duration reductions and Tractor Beam Modules bonuses.
I personally don't use the Noctis for this reason, as any other ship with a cargohold over 150m3 does the job just as well with an MTU and Salvager Modules.
Which is why I would like to put forth the idea to give the Noctis either a Role Bonus of a specified Salvager Access Difficulty bonus percentage, or even a smaller Access Difficulty Bonus per Ore Industrial Level, such as 2% Bonus per level or something to that effect.
Any thoughts on the idea? |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:52:00 -
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Maybe you don't properly understand the duration bonus to salvagers. It makes them cycle more quickly, thus giving you a better chance of salvaging the wreck now instead of later without devaluing the power of actually training up the salvaging skill. |
Ix Method
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
156
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Posted - 2014.09.10 12:00:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Maybe you don't properly understand the duration bonus to salvagers. It makes them cycle more quickly, thus giving you a better chance of salvaging the wreck now instead of later without devaluing the power of actually training up the salvaging skill. While this is true, a difficulty bonus would probably be slightly more useful to newer players. Not that rigs can't do this too but, you know. Travelling at the speed of love. |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
400
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Posted - 2014.09.10 13:09:00 -
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The Noctis is fine as it is ... I can repeat myself ... show me any method/module/ship that loots and salavages 80+ wrecks in under 5 minutes and you can complain about the Noctis not working properly. If you don't you might not work (it) properly.
And no, I don-Št have max skills, but they are good enough.
And to the 'new player' abductors, any pilot with udner level 3 average in support skills trained for any ship shall not ever complain about functionality of an existing feature and not fly that ship and state it doesn't work properly. Am tired of this, don't fly (and complain) what you should not fly - and are willing to lose. Join the BIG Lottery (see Bio ingame), oldest and only non-profit Lottery in EVE, every second Monday. Wire ISK to BIG GAMES for tickets ! Join the Channel, have fun, being a lucky winner is optional ,)
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Rex Omnipotens
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.10 15:55:00 -
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With all relevant skills maxed out, the salvagers rarely turn more than 1 cycle. Sooo the only change I'd make to the noctis is a bonus to cargo hold or a special cargo hold for loots. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
730
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Posted - 2014.09.10 17:56:00 -
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I got a salvage implant before they went to 50 mill. With T2 Salvage and Salvage Tackle, I get 70% and never cycle twice, even on T2 rigs.
Primae hull on the other hand. That's a comedy moment of EVE. |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun times
387
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Posted - 2014.09.10 18:27:00 -
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Noctis Twerking?
Noctis is fine. Primae is a joke, as Ocih mentioned.
If you don't think the Noctis is fine, you're doing it wrong. Tengu Grib> I read that as "Suddenly Noobships" and it made me want to hot drop someone with noobships. Buhhdust Princess> You have set us a challenge..We will try and do it!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeBnYi5bG0&feature=youtu.be |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
731
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Posted - 2014.09.10 19:25:00 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Noctis Twerking?
Noctis is fine. Primae is a joke, as Ocih mentioned.
If you don't think the Noctis is fine, you're doing it wrong.
It's a very rare hull, yet if I saw someone running PI in a Primae, the cruelest thing I could do is not blow it up. It's that dysfunctional. |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
14
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Posted - 2014.09.12 02:13:00 -
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Larger cargo hold would be nice but not really needed so maybe a reduction in align time, or more slots to fit inertia stabs into.
As for the rest why bother with a crappy slow MTU. All they are is a trouble magnet, seems like the PvP crowd has switch to blowing up MTU's as a way to provoke fights since they cannot can flip miners anymore. Tied the damn things for a week or so and then sold them all.
All skills 5 pilot with a full tech 2 fit noctis can clean a level 4 mission pocket in the proverbial blink of an eye. 96,000 meter tractors range, pulling wrecks at 2,400 meters per second. 6,000 meter range on the salvage beams with a 7.5 second activation time and rarely needing a second sweep.
On the other hand with the recent changes to the reprocessing of mission loot an access bonus might be a good idea.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
54
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Posted - 2014.09.12 03:38:00 -
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Meh, my Noctis sits in the dockup unused while I blitz through L4s because its no longer worth it to salvage. The change I would need to even bother with it is one that would make salvaging missions worthwhile, maybe both a major cycle and difficulty buff. |
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Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
405
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Posted - 2014.09.12 07:43:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Meh, my Noctis sits in the dockup unused while I blitz through L4s because its no longer worth it to salvage. The change I would need to even bother with it is one that would make salvaging missions worthwhile, maybe both a major cycle and difficulty buff. There is your problem
And not bothering is your problem too ... if you can't work it, don't complain. Half the ISK is in the loot/slavage. I get 40-60 million ISK from Worlds Collide .. and you ?? 5000 ?! I get 20-40 Million from Angel ... and you ?? 4000 LP ?! ... HAHAHAHA Don-Št blame ship design, blame your narrow minded playstyle.
Join the BIG Lottery (see Bio ingame), oldest and only non-profit Lottery in EVE, every second Monday. Wire ISK to BIG GAMES for tickets ! Join the Channel, have fun, being a lucky winner is optional ,)
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
355
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Posted - 2014.09.12 09:31:00 -
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I'd sooner like to see the tractor beam range bonus on Marauders get swapped for a cycle speed bonus to salvagers. Something needs to be done with it, it's practically a joke for a bonus now with MTUs and Noctis |
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