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CatanaFleet Red
Arch Angels Assault Force The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:18:00 -
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Hello Forumites!
I've been following a few issues within game that seems to be of interest to players.
As for me, I'm so sick of so many jumps to find content!
I've seen many podders wanting nullsec changes!
Could the answer lie in a revamp of space travel in Eve Online?
I have thought about a few idea's that could be introduced to expand on content and provide more interesting gameplay into the future;
Remove gates and local chat from all null-sec systems
Remove lo-sec - there is either null-sec or small pockets of hi-sec
Navigate around solar systems as normal - BUT;
Add 'Warp Fuel' to ALL ships - so as to have some limit on max warp distance - allowing tactical flexibility and logistic planning factors to play a role in operations
Any system in the cluster is a potential warp destination from any other system
Practically speaking - the in-game map would operate to allow the selection of a solar system to warp to - perhaps a standard arrival/departure point at a destination system stars' opposite poles to create chokepoints would be the best form of 'traffic control'
The ships warp between systems just like they are warping to an in-system destination - such as a belt, bookmark, anom or station - at the same rate as a ship's current warp speed - so warping across the cluster will take both fuel and time
Brings a few more strategic challenges and possibilities for large and small alliances - content is shaken up, innumerable staging systems, sov holding opportunities and whatever else that could be imagined - gates tend to restrict gameplay to a linear route
There is potential for new industrial activities, structures and sovereignty mechanics
However, there will be potential issues such as;
re-imagining the benefits of jump drives, capitals and jump freighters over warping to a destination - maybe a time to destination advantage for jump drives?
problems with deep intersystem safe spot bookmarking - maybe restricting bookmarks to system boundary?
As for Wormholes - they should operate as they do currently - the lore indicates W-Space as unreachable any other way - and as the systems do not appear on the in game map they won't be a potential destination via warp drive.
So throwing up a few idea's - probably all done to death but couldn't find the "what was already discussed about improving Eve Online so don't post again" thread |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4712
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:21:00 -
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This thread proudly brought to you by someone who's never used the forums before. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9605
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:22:00 -
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So basically, an entirely different game. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
6156
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:22:00 -
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CatanaFleet Red wrote: Could the answer lie in a revamp of space travel in Eve Online?
No |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6090
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:23:00 -
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Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
957
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:39:00 -
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Nowhere in your rambling mess of an OP was there anything approaching a rational suggestion.... we are all dumber for having read it... i award you no likes and may God have mercy on your soul.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
CatanaFleet Red
Arch Angels Assault Force The Kadeshi
10
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:39:00 -
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lawl - haters gonna hate - nothing new I see... peeps should get that no more tears shampoo to prevent - tears - bwahaha |
CatanaFleet Red
Arch Angels Assault Force The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:41:00 -
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Also - a few additions -
Hello Forumites!
I've been following a few issues within game that seems to be of interest to players.
As for me, I'm so sick of so many jumps to find content!
I've seen many podders wanting nullsec changes!
Could the answer lie in a revamp of space travel in Eve Online?
I have thought about a few idea's that could be introduced to expand on content and provide more interesting gameplay into the future;
Remove gates and local chat from all null-sec systems
Remove lo-sec - there is either null-sec or small pockets of hi-sec
Navigate around solar systems as normal - BUT;
Add 'Warp Fuel' to ALL ships - so as to have some limit on max warp distance - allowing tactical flexibility and logistic planning factors to play a role in operations
Any system in the cluster is a potential warp destination from any other system
Practically speaking - the in-game map would operate to allow the selection of a solar system to warp to - perhaps a standard arrival/departure point at a destination system stars' opposite poles to create chokepoints would be the best form of 'traffic control'
The ships warp between systems just like they are warping to an in-system destination - such as a belt, bookmark, anom or station - at the same rate as a ship's current warp speed - so warping across the cluster will take both fuel and time
Brings a few more strategic challenges and possibilities for large and small alliances - content is shaken up, innumerable staging systems, sov holding opportunities and whatever else that could be imagined - gates tend to restrict gameplay to a linear route
There is potential for new industrial activities, structures and sovereignty mechanics
However, there will be potential issues such as;
re-imagining the benefits of jump drives, capitals and jump freighters over warping to a destination - maybe a time to destination advantage for jump drives?
problems with deep intersystem safe spot bookmarking - maybe restricting bookmarks to system boundary?
As for Wormholes - they should operate as they do currently - the lore indicates W-Space as unreachable any other way - and as the systems do not appear on the in game map they won't be a potential destination via warp drive.
So throwing up a few idea's - probably all done to death but couldn't find the "what was already discussed about improving Eve Online so don't post again" thread |
Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Shipyards The Predictables
137
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:53:00 -
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solution for removing gates is simple, copy Elite Dangoures, target the sun in the system u want to travel too, then jump. The suns are the jumpbeacons in each system, ergo making gates useless. |
The Forum Alt
Hedion University Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:55:00 -
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Gates work.
The lore is also completely based around gates.
It wouldn't be EVE if there were no gates.
I could understand removing some of the bottlenecks though. |
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4714
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:57:00 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:solution for removing gates is simple, copy Elite Dangoures, target the sun in the system u want to travel too, then jump. The suns are the jumpbeacons in each system, ergo making gates useless.
That's not a solution, that's Elite: Dangerous. Copying it would just make EVE another Elite: Dangerous. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Elite fan, but, I'm a huge EVE fan as well. They are completely different games that should remain exactly that, or I have no reason to play them both. And I enjoy playing them both, it makes my life feel less monotonous. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8089
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Posted - 2014.09.10 12:31:00 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:solution for removing gates is simple, copy Elite Dangoures, target the sun in the system u want to travel too, then jump. The suns are the jumpbeacons in each system, ergo making gates useless.
Then watch every single start get camped If you can't camp the star because people jump in to random points around it, you just made it harder to pvp in a pvp game.
Gates work because they are focus points that drive people who otherwise would never see each other (because they are in space, which is kind of big) into close contact. Without that EVE doesn't work at all.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4771
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Posted - 2014.09.10 12:36:00 -
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CatanaFleet Red wrote:lawl - haters gonna hate - nothing new I see... peeps should get that no more tears shampoo to prevent - tears - bwahaha Such few words, I'm impressed by how thoroughly they manage to annoy me.
Your posts are marginally more helpful than saying "fix it".
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WASPY69
Hard Knocks Inc.
314
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Posted - 2014.09.10 13:02:00 -
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Sometimes I forget 12 year old spergs have access to the internet. |
Jur Tissant
Unreal Darkness
223
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Posted - 2014.09.10 13:08:00 -
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So we're removing one of the key features of the game. Also, ships warping at current speed? A star at 4 ly away (a reasonable distance) is 250,000 AU away. If we use the Leopard (20 AU/s, fastest warp speed) then it takes over 3 hours just to go from system to system. If we're in a 3 AU/s battleship, you'd better bring a snack because that's almost a full day of travel.
For a warp to one system.
You might as well contract null-sec over to the coalitions who can afford fleets of jump-capable ships. |
Leoric Firesword
Dark Fusion Industries
76
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Posted - 2014.09.10 13:12:00 -
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so you want travel to be like in Elite...you know there's a new Elite in development. |
Gregor Parud
612
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Posted - 2014.09.10 13:13:00 -
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OP is a good example of when you have a really great idea you should just keep it to yourself, because it's probably not that good. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8090
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Posted - 2014.09.10 13:16:00 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:OP is a good example of when you have a really great idea you should just keep it to yourself, because it's probably not that good. +1
All ideas are great and foolproof until they come out of someone's mouth |
Lucy Oreless
The Guardian Knights
216
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Posted - 2014.09.10 13:17:00 -
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Kadeshi-dude trolling it up like a baws
Kudos sir! _____________________________________________________________________________________ -áI did not have sexual relations to THAT woman.... |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
6201
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Posted - 2014.09.10 13:33:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:CatanaFleet Red wrote:lawl - haters gonna hate - nothing new I see... peeps should get that no more tears shampoo to prevent - tears - bwahaha Such few words, I'm impressed by how thoroughly they manage to annoy me. Your posts are marginally more helpful than saying "fix it". Anything that starts with "lawl" and "haters gonna hate" can be safely ignored, I think. |
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4730
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Posted - 2014.09.10 13:36:00 -
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To be fair to The Kadeshi, though, despite a few wayward errants in their ranks coming to the forums and posting silly stuff, they DID just kick the absolute snot out of LowSechnaya Sholupen, which gets them a shittonne of credit in my book. Stupid idea from very good arsekickers. Sometimes, even the best of us say silly things. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4774
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Posted - 2014.09.10 13:39:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:CatanaFleet Red wrote:lawl - haters gonna hate - nothing new I see... peeps should get that no more tears shampoo to prevent - tears - bwahaha Such few words, I'm impressed by how thoroughly they manage to annoy me. Your posts are marginally more helpful than saying "fix it". Anything that starts with "lawl" and "haters gonna hate" can be safely ignored, I think. I'd add "prolly"(supposed to be probably), to that list as well. =][= |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
673
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Posted - 2014.09.10 13:41:00 -
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CatanaFleet Red wrote:lawl - haters gonna hate - nothing new I see... peeps should get that no more tears shampoo to prevent - tears - bwahaha
Features and Ideas is that way ---> |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1350
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Posted - 2014.09.10 13:42:00 -
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Quote:Add 'Warp Fuel' to ALL ships - so as to have some limit on max warp distance - allowing tactical flexibility and logistic planning factors to play a role in operations Already exists in form of Jump range
Quote:Any system in the cluster is a potential warp destination from any other system lol
Quote:Practically speaking - the in-game map would operate to allow the selection of a solar system to warp to - perhaps a standard arrival/departure point at a destination system stars' opposite poles to create chokepoints would be the best form of 'traffic control' Already exist....called gates
Quote:The ships warp between systems just like they are warping to an in-system destination - such as a belt, bookmark, anom or station - at the same rate as a ship's current warp speed - so warping across the cluster will take both fuel and time
did you touch yourself while writing that? lets take two adjacent low sec systems to give you an impression of distance vs warp speed. Covryn and Iges are right next to each other and the distance is 0.986 light years which - in eve terms - is pretty close together. So if you travel with a warp speed of 3 AU per second (which is well beyond the speed of light btw) your warp from Covryn to Iges would take 5 hours and 45 min.
Quote:Brings a few more strategic challenges and possibilities for large and small alliances - content is shaken up, innumerable staging systems, sov holding opportunities and whatever else that could be imagined - gates tend to restrict gameplay to a linear route The challenge is that noone will log on anymore because of "warp"...better drink my own ****.
I did the Tippia quote thing there, right? ( I do not compare my unworthy existence with Tippia though) TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Vyl Vit
752
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Posted - 2014.09.10 15:28:00 -
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Proof some people should be paid not to think. Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Iain Cariaba
300
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Posted - 2014.09.10 15:38:00 -
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CatanaFleet Red wrote:Hello Forumites! Should have stopped reading with this line, as it is the most intelligent thing said in the entire post.
OP, here's a tl;dr to put on the first line: Let's totally ignore any and all previously written lore regarding EvE and make it not EvE anymore, because. Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4768
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Posted - 2014.09.10 15:41:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:Proof some people should be paid not to think.
No.... thinking is not the problem. Opening mouth prior to thinking is the problem. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Shipyards The Predictables
137
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Posted - 2014.09.10 16:56:00 -
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what still amaze me is that many of the comments have no constructive pro or cons, they just try to riddicule the OP... When are you kids gonna grow up? Either give the OP an serious answer or just refrain from writing shite.
To OP, i agree that a different way to move betwene systems would be fun, but the point mentioned from a other poster, that jumpgates is what defines EVE... ect ect.... is a valid point that cant be denied. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
929
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Posted - 2014.09.10 17:02:00 -
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Adding.. no go play ED. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766 |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
929
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Posted - 2014.09.10 17:03:00 -
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CatanaFleet Red wrote:lawl - haters gonna hate - nothing new I see... peeps should get that no more tears shampoo to prevent - tears - bwahaha
and now I have taylor swifts new song stuck in my head again... thank you so much for that... sigh *hums shake it off* OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766 |
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